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Unread post by revertbohra » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:20 pm

too much blame of shehzadas that they dont do any thing other then for getting money.....look at this pictures I am preety sure person who gave zyafat is a normal person,yet shehzada qaid joher bhai sahab have visited his house.look at his humbleness.....


http://www.zeninfosys.net/zi6/akhbar/sa ... pune/14552

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Unread post by profastian » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:28 pm

revertbohra wrote:too much blame of shehzadas that they dont do any thing other then for getting money.....look at this pictures I am preety sure person who gave zyafat is a normal person,yet shehzada qaid joher bhai sahab have visited his house.look at his humbleness.....


http://www.zeninfosys.net/zi6/akhbar/sa ... pune/14552
proggies wrote:Its just a PR stunt

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Unread post by SBM » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:32 pm

So what is so humble about it, Look at picture number 3 they hired a private photographer to take pictures, An Adna Mumin does not have that much money, See picture number 17 and see the big fat envelope and why are they having all those sumptuous food on the table what happened to Thaal and why not serve him with Syedi Muffadal's Khushi of Barkati Dabba or Thaali Jaman

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Unread post by revertbohra » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:35 pm

SBM wrote:So what is so humble about it, Look at picture number 3 they hired a private photographer to take pictures, An Adna Mumin does not have that much money, See picture number 17 and see the big fat envelope and why are they having all those sumptuous food on the table what happened to Thaal and why not serve him with Syedi Muffadal's Khushi of Barkati Dabba or Thaali Jaman
only one thing can be said to you....

no matter what good syedna and his family do....

"hatters gonna hate"

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.urlesque.com ... frican.jpg

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Unread post by SBM » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:43 pm

You did not answer my question what is so humble, Was Zadaas distributing food to poor cleaning the street or building house like former President Jimmy Carter does or like Bill Gates and his wife visiting Indian villages to personally supervise health system and education AND GIVING THEIR OWN MONEY THEY GIVE FAT ENVELOPES AND NOT RECEIVE
So reply back with the difference of Giving or taking, the humbleness is not receiving the fat envelope and eating sumptuous meals Maula Ali did not do that, Imam Hussain did not do that and you call your self Ummatti of these great people, shame on you and other Regressives for shedding crocodile's tears on their Shaadaat(Ruwa jevo Moh banawi loo)

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Unread post by SBM » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:48 pm

revertbohra wrote:
SBM wrote:So what is so humble about it, Look at picture number 3 they hired a private photographer to take pictures, An Adna Mumin does not have that much money, See picture number 17 and see the big fat envelope and why are they having all those sumptuous food on the table what happened to Thaal and why not serve him with Syedi Muffadal's Khushi of Barkati Dabba or Thaali Jaman
only one thing can be said to you....

no matter what good syedna and his family do....

"hatters gonna hate"

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.urlesque.com ... frican.jpg
Is that Shezaadas in making walking the street and sucking the blood of poor people :mrgreen: He has black hat and jacket instead of white Topi and Saya

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Unread post by MurtazaVds » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:55 pm

Mr. SBM if any1 arrives to ur home u would ask him or keep some eatable to d table or nt or leave dem widout asking

and d cover wich is giving to shehzada saheb .. d shehzada saheb didn't ask for dat dis is somesort of respect

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Unread post by revertbohra » Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:02 pm

SBM wrote:
revertbohra wrote: only one thing can be said to you....

no matter what good syedna and his family do....

"hatters gonna hate"

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.urlesque.com ... frican.jpg
Is that Shezaadas in making walking the street and sucking the blood of poor people :mrgreen: He has black hat and jacket instead of white Topi and Saya
I realy pity your understanding level....u cant even understand a mere picture

how would u understand how great islaam and its leaders are,,,,,,

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Unread post by SBM » Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:25 pm

revertbohra
I realy pity your understanding level....u cant even understand a mere picture

how would u understand how great islaam and its leaders are,,,,,,
You who became a Regressive has a better understanding level of Islam? :evil: and hope you are not talking about the Kothari Goons as its leaders :mrgreen:

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Unread post by Hussain_KSA » Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:49 pm

Revertbohras,

Think twice before posting something on this forum. Qaid johar visited the house of Shk Abdul khuzema Shk Abdul Tayeb Yamani's resident. First of all both son and father are shaikh secondly from Yamani Family. You may ask your seniors about Yamani Family and their relations with Kothar. What made you thinks that he was adna momin. It was not Ziyafat but Pagla or Qadam. You know how much a title of Shaikh cost now a days?

Secondly this is the only thing Qaid Johar could do now a day as he has nothing more to do after declaration of Nuss.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:45 pm

Bro Hussain,

Actually Qaid Johar is not interested in these 'chillar parties' as he is making more money in his construction business at surat, mumbai and other places, he is also the in-charge of the multi million dollar bhendi bazar redevelopment project. Moreover he is partner with Ramakdawalas, the richest bohra of dubai. These few appearances are only a ploy to keep himself in the limelight. By the way are these yamanis anyway related to the Yamani who was the right hand man and P.A. of the dai and who suffered a massive paralytic stroke after doing years of the dai's khidmat ?

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Unread post by accountability » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:36 pm

hussain bhai you are very right , they are from yamani family. Gm it is the same family. MR RB may be a blind dedicated follower. though his dedication is commendable. ironically our administration relies heavily on these blind dedication, who could not see even obvious signs.
RB before positng , by looking at these pictures, you should have asked some questions yourself. first, why did Qaid joher bhai saheb visit yamani residence, secondly in salisbury pune, average rate of house flat is RS 10000/- per square foot, A flat in salisbury park goes for least 2 crore rupees, so imagine the cost of house. so shaikhs of yamani family are by no means a poor or ordinary bohra.
beside that, What would yamanis get from Qadam of Qaid joher bhaisaheb, he is nothing in our dawat heirarchy, except son of syedna saheb. if you go to sabak, you may ask rutba of any shahzada, or what importance does he have in our dawat heirarchy. they will tell you, shahzadas are beloved sons of aqa maula, and by pleasing them you are pleasing aqa maula. So qadam was rather cosmetic excercise, or there may be a purpose to convey some message.

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Unread post by accountability » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:47 pm

Actually on this forum there are some very informed and knowledgebale members, they are true dawoodi bohras, believe in fatimi dawat,. But they are not blindly dedicated followers of administration. there is a difference in following fatimi dawat and becoming blind follower of whatever is going on.

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Unread post by Fateh » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:48 am

accountability wrote:Actually on this forum there are some very informed and knowledgebale members, they are true dawoodi bohras, believe in fatimi dawat,. But they are not blindly dedicated followers of administration. there is a difference in following fatimi dawat and becoming blind follower of whatever is going on.
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Unread post by humanbeing » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:05 am

Hi RB

Thanks for your insight ! you help this forum get alive.

I agree with Accountability, Salisbury park is one of the most posh areas in Pune. Morever whats the big deal with some shehzada doing kadam at some bohra house. What kind of devotion or khidmat is this ? You present one rare case of some shehzada doing kadam at some bohra house as an act of charity or benevolence. WoW ! this shows intellect of abdes in understanding humility.

The recent trips (Galiyakot-Dongaam-Pune..) is a publicity yatra to popularize 53rd Dai amongst masses. So these shehzada are sailing along the brandwagon to promote their popularity too. Sab Apni Roti Sek Rahe hai… Behti Ganga mein Haath Dho Rahe Hai !

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Unread post by Humsafar » Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:55 am

Dear abde regressives, see this picture below: why are you making you childern do this? What Bohra belief, what belilef in Islam, what concept of infallibilty of the prothets and dais, what Bohra sources and texts teach you to teach this bevaviour to your children?
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Unread post by revertbohra » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:55 am

Humsafar wrote:Dear abde regressives, see this picture below: why are you making you childern do this? What Bohra belief, what belilef in Islam, what concept of infallibilty of the prothets and dais, what Bohra sources and texts teach you to teach this bevaviour to your children?
Image
what is wrong in the picture?

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:05 pm

what is wrong in the picture
?
The guy in the back is not in Quomi Libas in presence of Zaada (pant and shirt not allowed), :evil:
To post comments here you need an IQ better than 20.

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Unread post by MurtazaVds » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:29 pm

rght say revertbohra
what wrong in dis pic

its just showing respect to shehzada saheb

or u wanna knw hw we shw respect to progs

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Unread post by revertbohra » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:31 pm

SBM wrote:
what is wrong in the picture
?
The guy in the back is not in Quomi Libas in presence of Zaada (pant and shirt not allowed), :evil:
To post comments here you need an IQ better than 20.
oh really then how come guy like u with 0 IQ posting on this forum from years? :shock:

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Unread post by Fateh » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:50 am

revertbohra wrote:
Humsafar wrote:Dear abde regressives, see this picture below: why are you making you childern do this? What Bohra belief, what belilef in Islam, what concept of infallibilty of the prothets and dais, what Bohra sources and texts teach you to teach this bevaviour to your children?
Image
what is wrong in the picture?
Its looks like a puja is going on in hindu mandir, some hindubhai wear bohara dresses showing their devotion

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Unread post by fearAllah » Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:43 pm

MurtazaVds wrote:rght say revertbohra
what wrong in dis pic

its just showing respect to shehzada saheb
Do you do the same at home when you want to show respect to your parents or other elders?

This is just pure shirk acting like hindus doing pooja of a human being

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Unread post by MurtazaVds » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:06 pm

fearAllah wrote:
MurtazaVds wrote:rght say revertbohra
what wrong in dis pic

its just showing respect to shehzada saheb
Do you do the same at home when you want to show respect to your parents or other elders?

This is just pure shirk acting like hindus doing pooja of a human being
improve ur IQ man hindus do nt do the pooja of human being
and y u didnt respect ur parents or elders
and joining hand is just a sign of respect

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:47 pm

MurtazaVds wrote:improve ur IQ man hindus do nt do the pooja of human being
You need to learn more about hinduism to keep yourself updated. I can produce number of photographs showing hindus doing puja of their secterian leaders like Sathya sai baba, aasaram bapu, murari bapu in a similar fashion as bohras do. By the way have you seen the 'wadhavni rasam' wherein abdes acts are similar to hindus performing aarti of their bhagwans.

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Unread post by MurtazaVds » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:02 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote: You need to learn more about hinduism to keep yourself updated. I can produce number of photographs showing hindus doing puja of their secterian leaders like Sathya sai baba, aasaram bapu, murari bapu in a similar fashion as bohras do. By the way have you seen the 'wadhavni rasam' wherein abdes acts are similar to hindus performing aarti of their bhagwans.
i dnt wanna learn more abt dem and
wow man what a knowledge on hindu and go an cnvrt onto dem

and on ur nxt b'day say no to ur mom or sis whn dy r ready for wadhavni rasam

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Unread post by MurtazaVds » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:06 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote: I can produce number of photographs showing hindus doing puja of their secterian leaders like Sathya sai baba, aasaram bapu, murari bapu
or i thought ur watching p tv or dr. Zakir naik fundas

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:17 pm

MurtazaVds wrote:or i thought ur watching p tv or dr. Zakir naik fundas
ghulam muhammed wrote: I can produce number of photographs showing hindus doing puja of their secterian leaders like Sathya sai baba, aasaram bapu, murari bapu
or i thought ur watching p tv or dr. Zakir naik fundas
No, I dont need to take lessons from TVs like how you do in your majids and to have knowledge of other religions is something which kuva ma medaks like you cannot understand, you are only fit to do trrrr trrrr in a small pond and that is the boundary fixed by your masters.

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Unread post by Humsafar » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:28 pm

MurtazaVds wrote:
fearAllah wrote: improve ur IQ man hindus do nt do the pooja of human being
Right, EVEN Hindus don't worship human beings. But Abde regressives do. And that is the point. Comparing this behaviour with Hindus is not relevant. What Hindus do within the context of their beliefs and culutre should not be judged from the perspective of another culutre or beleif system. But within the Islamic and Bohra worldview such behaviour has no justification. This is not an act of showing respect, but a slavish gesture of submitting to a "higher" authority. This is the relationship of master and slave. Of course, the slaves who have come to love their slavery are still wondering: "What is wrong with this pic?" :roll:

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Unread post by MurtazaVds » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:31 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:how you do in your majids and to have knowledge of other religions is something which kuva ma medaks like you cannot understand, you are only fit to do trrrr trrrr in a small pond and that is the boundary fixed by your masters.
so man u didnt go to masjid

and to knw abt smethng is nt like Kuva no mendak
and its gud dat dere is a boundary bcoz we all knw our limits and being in limits is a gud deed

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Unread post by MurtazaVds » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:38 pm

Humsafar wrote:
MurtazaVds wrote:
Right, EVEN Hindus don't worship human beings. But Abde regressives do. And that is the point. Comparing this behaviour with Hindus is not relevant. What Hindus do within the context of their beliefs and culutre should not be judged from the perspective of another culutre or beleif system. But within the Islamic and Bohra worldview such behaviour has no justification. This is not an act of showing respect, but a slavish gesture of submitting to a "higher" authority. This is the relationship of master and slave. Of course, the slaves who have come to love their slavery are still wondering: "What is wrong with this pic?" :roll:
kem tame padvatu ni aauta hue to kai ni thaye tamara