Why Imam Hussain laid his Life?

[JC]

If you try to find an answer from an abde he would say 'Imam Hussain laid his life for mumeeneen like us, to save us and to take us to janat' .......... 'apnay charawa wastay anany janat ma lea java wastay' ........

Ask this question to an abde madrasah going kid, the reply would be same 'Apna Wastay' .........

NOBODY dares to say 'Imam Hussain laid his life for Islam, Principles of Islam and for Prophet Mohammad' (yeah there is an old marsia going around 'Nana to jo diya that waada' ....... but that is being gradually phased out ......

So what Kothar is trying to do is to implant the idea that Hussain is of and for bohras only and he cared about bohras only, and also implying that whatever Shirk they are doing is correct Islam.

Secondly you would always note, the amils and BS etc always say 'Deen Ma Ghanee Bareekee Chay' so they are saying Deen is difficult to understand and follow and hence you need Dai and his henchmen. While God has said He has completed Islam for all the people, liked it for ALL and has made it easy, simple and understandable to follow.

[shabbir4u]

If you try to find an answer from an abde he would say 'Imam Hussain laid his life for mumeeneen like us, to save us and to take us to janat' .......... 'apnay charawa wastay anany janat ma lea java wastay' ........

Ask this question to an abde madrasah going kid, the reply would be same 'Apna Wastay' .........

NOBODY dares to say 'Imam Hussain laid his life for Islam, Principles of Islam and for Prophet Mohammad' (yeah there is an old marsia going around 'Nana to jo diya that waada' ....... but that is being gradually phased out ......

So what Kothar is trying to do is to implant the idea that Hussain is of and for bohras only and he cared about bohras only, and also implying that whatever Shirk they are doing is correct Islam.

Secondly you would always note, the amils and BS etc always say 'Deen Ma Ghanee Bareekee Chay' so they are saying Deen is difficult to understand and follow and hence you need Dai and his henchmen. While God has said He has completed Islam for all the people, liked it for ALL and has made it easy, simple and understandable to follow.

Hello JC
Who told you this.Imam hussain laid his life for Islam Only.We (Dawoodi bohra ) believe in Islam.Thats why it always said that Imam Huaain laid his life for mumineen only and mumineen believe in Islam. He still have marisya 'Nana to jo diya that waada' ....... Is still have.

Listen first and talk !!!

[JC]

hello shabbir,

I have heard the marsiya and thats why i wrote that ...........

Secondly yes, bohras say he laid his life for mumeneen which to you all equals bohras. Islam comes afterwards. You all imply that 'you mumeneen' are the REAL followers of Islam, so he laid his life for you all.

The simple truth and fact is he laid his life ONLY for Islam and principles of Islam, NOT for particular sect of people be that be Muslims or Mumins. If a group of people follow true Islam, that is good enough for them, Hussain did what was good for him and what he was supposed to do being a Great Muslim and Mumin ....... so please STOP having 'All Rights Reserved' on Hussain.

[ghulam muhammed]

Imam hussain laid his life for Islam Only.We (Dawoodi bohra ) believe in Islam

Bro shabbir4u,

If Dawoodi Bohras believe in Islam then why do youll always address the mainstream muslims as "Ola musalman chhe, hamein mumin chhe". There are also newspapers reports wherein during the gujarat mass genocide, bohras in gujarat had told hindus that "Dont kill us, we are not muslims, we are bohras".

[ghulam muhammed]

So what Kothar is trying to do is to implant the idea that Hussain is of and for bohras only and he cared about bohras only

Bro JC,

Kothar has laid a self proclaimed claim for the copyright of the events in karbala as otherwise how would the dai organise yearly mohurrum tamashas to different locales worldwide and sell this copyright to the highest bidder ?? As you know, the bids start from Rs.52 crores and there is no upper limit !

[shabbir4u]

hello shabbir,

I have heard the marsiya and thats why i wrote that ...........

Secondly yes, bohras say he laid his life for mumeneen which to you all equals bohras. Islam comes afterwards. You all imply that 'you mumeneen' are the REAL followers of Islam, so he laid his life for you all.

The simple truth and fact is he laid his life ONLY for Islam and principles of Islam, NOT for particular sect of people be that be Muslims or Mumins. If a group of people follow true Islam, that is good enough for them, Hussain did what was good for him and what he was supposed to do being a Great Muslim and Mumin ....... so please STOP having 'All Rights Reserved' on Hussain.

Hello JC
Let me tell you, If you ask your Mom How much she loves you she will says Lot And if you ask her how much she love your neigbour kid she will say lot but not as much as YOU.
The Simple truth is Inam husaain laid his life for Islam and for shia and WE Dawoodi b ohra are Shia.

We have not Reserved any thing on any one. All over the world people go to Imam Hussain shrine we dont stop them. Every shia do Matam we also do Matam and Go iMAM HUSEIN sHRine.

[shabbir4u]

Imam hussain laid his life for Islam Only.We (Dawoodi bohra ) believe in Islam

Bro shabbir4u,

If Dawoodi Bohras believe in Islam then why do youll always address the mainstream muslims as "Ola musalman chhe, hamein mumin chhe". There are also newspapers reports wherein during the gujarat mass genocide, bohras in gujarat had told hindus that "Dont kill us, we are not muslims, we are bohras".

Bro GM
Yes we Are Bohra (sect) and we practice Islam. India we have jain,kachi, Marwadi.... but if you tell (Marwadi) them what their religious they will say they are marwadi but they practice Hindu.

I dont know why people always fight in name of religious.

[profastian]

Imam hussain laid his life for Islam Only.We (Dawoodi bohra ) believe in Islam

Bro shabbir4u,

If Dawoodi Bohras believe in Islam then why do youll always address the mainstream muslims as "Ola musalman chhe, hamein mumin chhe". There are also newspapers reports wherein during the gujarat mass genocide, bohras in gujarat had told hindus that "Dont kill us, we are not muslims, we are bohras".

So what is the distinction between a mumin and muslim? Or are they just synonyms and God was playing with words?
At least you say Ola Musalmanu, you label everyone as a mushrik and kafir.

[who2trust]

imam husain (as) never wanted war in first place..secondly he never wanted Islam to be wrongly lead by yazid. He sacrificed his life by not surrendering to yazid and left this world as a true muslim. muslim all over the world should try and learn the message imam husain spread rather than mourning and beating chest and remembering how he waas killed by the enemy. This trend by DB is just brainwashing the innocent people by again and again repeatedly doing same sermons.

[humanbeing]

The Simple truth is Inam husaain laid his life for Islam and for shia and WE Dawoodi bohra are Shia.

S4U

How do you conclude that Imam Hussain sacrificed for Shia ? Was their Shia/Sunni schism at the times of Imam Ali - Imam Hussain ?

How can you conclude that Dawooi bohra are shias ? when our leaders in the majlis shout from rooftops, how dawoodi bohras are superiorly different then other shia sects.

We have not Reserved any thing on any one. All over the world people go to Imam Hussain shrine we dont stop them. Every shia do Matam we also do Matam and Go iMAM HUSEIN sHRine.

Kothari inc has reserved Imam hussain for their enterprising deen ! non bohras are free to go anywhere they want, its bohra who are under reservation from kothar management and are stopped from going to shrine unless sabeel, wajebaat, laagats,s alaams are clear. What an irony !

Every shia do maatam or any shia do mataam because they feel grief of suffering of imam hussain and the caravan, that is the intention broadly. But bohra do mataam as ritualist expression of piety along with grief. Bohra do maatam to request allah for long life of Sayedna sahib, bohra do maatam to garner happiness of sayedna sahib by expressing grief for imam hussain. My statements are not generalized but speaks of broader attitude of bohra in the community

Please don’t argue or berate me on concept of maatam and long life of sayedna sahib. I m against none, provided they are not mixed complementing one another !

[Muslim First]

.secondly he never wanted Islam to be wrongly lead by yazid.
Brother
Can you Tell us which wrong way of Islam Yazid prescribed ?
Did he stop Namaaz? Did he prescribed extra 2 Rakats for his long life?
Did he order to combine Namaaz ?
Did he ask for Zyafts with salams, Kadambosi etc. etc.?
Did he stop Khutbas in Jumma Namaaz? And reduced Jumma prayers to regular Zohr prayer?
Did he order Maatam?
Did he declare himself Haqiki Qibla?

He sacrificed his life by not surrendering to yazid and left this world as a true muslim. muslim all over the world should try and learn the message imam husain spread rather than mourning and beating chest and remembering how he waas killed by the enemy. This trend by DB is just brainwashing the innocent people by again and again repeatedly doing same sermons.

[Muslim First]

.secondly he never wanted Islam to be wrongly lead by yazid.
Brother
Can you Tell us which wrong way of Islam Yazid prescribed ?
Did he stop Namaaz? Did he prescribed extra 2 Rakats for his long life?
Did he order to combine Namaaz ?
Did he ask for Zyafts with salams, Kadambosi etc. etc.?
Did he stop Khutbas in Jumma Namaaz? And reduced Jumma prayers to regular Zohr prayer?
Did he order Maatam?
Did he declare himself Haqiki Qibla?
Did he add his name in Adhan

He sacrificed his life by not surrendering to yazid and left this world as a true muslim. muslim all over the world should try and learn the message imam husain spread rather than mourning and beating chest and remembering how he waas killed by the enemy. This trend by DB is just brainwashing the innocent people by again and again repeatedly doing same sermons.

[profastian]

.secondly he never wanted Islam to be wrongly lead by yazid.
Brother
Can you Tell us which wrong way of Islam Yazid prescribed ?
Did he stop Namaaz? Did he prescribed extra 2 Rakats for his long life?
Did he order to combine Namaaz ?
Did he ask for Zyafts with salams, Kadambosi etc. etc.?
Did he stop Khutbas in Jumma Namaaz? And reduced Jumma prayers to regular Zohr prayer?
Did he order Maatam?
Did he declare himself Haqiki Qibla?
Did he add his name in Adhan

He sacrificed his life by not surrendering to yazid and left this world as a true muslim. muslim all over the world should try and learn the message imam husain spread rather than mourning and beating chest and remembering how he waas killed by the enemy. This trend by DB is just brainwashing the innocent people by again and again repeatedly doing same sermons.

You should name one of your grandsons, Yazeed.

[humble_servant_us]

MF

Can you Tell us which wrong way of Islam Yazid prescribed ?

Wow !

In the first year he killed the grandson of the prophet(pbuh) Al-husain(as) .
In the 2nd year he Killed and raped thousands of Residents of Madina and Desecrated Masjid Nabavi
In the 3rd year he Set Ablaze and Destroyed Holy Kaaba

Imam Husayn said, "Whoever of you kills me will be sinful and untruthful." Then, to the governor, he said, "O governor! We are the People of the Prophet's House, and we are descendants of the Prophet. Yazid is a drunkard who kills people without reason, and a person like me does not pay allegiance to a person like him. However, let us meet in the morning and let us see, you and us, who is most eligible for leadership."

[Muslim First]

MF

Can you Tell us which wrong way of Islam Yazid prescribed ?

Wow !

In the first year he killed the grandson of the prophet(pbuh) Al-husain(as) .
In the 2nd year he Killed and raped thousands of Residents of Madina and Desecrated Masjid Nabavi
In the 3rd year he Set Ablaze and Destroyed Holy Kaaba

Imam Husayn said, "Whoever of you kills me will be sinful and untruthful." Then, to the governor, he said, "O governor! We are the People of the Prophet's House, and we are descendants of the Prophet. Yazid is a drunkard who kills people without reason, and a person like me does not pay allegiance to a person like him. However, let us meet in the morning and let us see, you and us, who is most eligible for leadership."

Br HUS
All you said was true but you failed to answer my question.
Which specific way Y changed Islam?
He may be a tyrant ruler and despicable person and may have committed offenses which one may abhor but please tell me which way he changed Islamic practice prescribed in Qur'an and Sunna?
Wasalaam

[humble_servant_us]

changed Islamic practice prescribed in Qur'an and Sunna?

Someone can change islamic practice only when he accepts it. Did Yazid ever believe in Islam. Did he not say that "Banu Hashim staged a play for Kingdom there was no news from the skies neither was there any revelation"

Sorry to say but your hatred for Bohras/shias is evident from an absurd question.

[Muslim First]

Statement of who2trust
"secondly he never wanted Islam to be wrongly lead by yazid. "
Was unclear therefore my question.
I am only looking for clarity. Was Y a rightful leader is not my questin.
I was asking "who2trust" a question

Brother
Can you Tell us which wrong way of Islam Yazid prescribed ?

Let him clarify.
You are taking answer to a simple question to absuredity.

[ghulam muhammed]

Bro GM
Yes we Are Bohra (sect) and we practice Islam. India we have jain,kachi, Marwadi.... but if you tell (Marwadi) them what their religious they will say they are marwadi but they practice Hindu.

I dont know why people always fight in name of religious.

Bro shabbir4u,

Yes marwaris, jains and kutchis address themselves as such but if at all there was a hindu/muslim riot they will not say "Hum marwari hai, hum hindu nahi hai". During gujarat riots bohras said "We are bohras, we are not muslims", see the difference. Bohras alienated themselves from the Muslim religion altogether. Also marwaris dont say "Hum marwari hai aur woh hindu hai" like how bohras say "Ola Musalman chhe, hamein to bohra chhe" !