Shabab/Abdes attack reformists in masjid in Udaipur

[bohraji]

Dedicated to the abdes.
JUST RELAX AND THINK FOR A WHILE, CONTEMPLATE.

[Sajauddin_Bagwala]

Reported -

HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF.......................!​!!

It was on August 8 2011 (8th Ramazan 1432H.) when ONE THOUSAND+ Dawoodi Bohra Youth (the ONLY TRUE BOHRAS) marched to the Udaipur Collectorate from Morning at 9. Raining very Heavily throughout the Day, the Administration thought these Bohras would perish Soon but as the Day passed the amount of people started Increasing at the Udaipur Collectorate and that was the Day, we created History by Offering Namaaz E Zohr and Asr outside the Collectorate. Everyone was there, Community Members (at least 2 from a Family), Politicians, Administrative Authorities, Media and all sorts of well wishers of Bohra Youth (Non Bohras).


What we demanded on that day was to stop the Illegal Construction going on in Mazar e Luqmanji Saheb (Waag) and action against the Culprits who were doing it.

And its Today, August 7 2012 when the Culprits of Abde Burhan Bohras are in the Jail and Abde Burhan Bohras are outside the Collectorate. We were 1000+ but Abde Burhan Bohras are not even 100!!! They have messaged around 10 times to the community Members but no one is interested as the Shababi Mumineen also knows that those indulged in attacking ROZDAAR Bohra Youth MUMINEEN were Ibn Mulzims of Abde Burhan Bohras.

On that Day we were figting for noble cause for our Mola Lukman Jeev Dargah. But, today Abde Bhrhans have there so called nakli Reputation on stake.

Till the Latest News that we get from there, all locked up Abde Burhan Culprits are not yet released and there are Almost no chances for them to get released Today. Inshallah.

Satyamev Jayate.

Allah blessings are with Mumineen of Bohra Youth (the ONLY TRUE BOHRAS).

[ozmujaheed]

SB

I understand your anger but I was trying to give the benefit of doubt that if history was kept aside atleat the new Diai had an opportunity to demonstrate his leadership credentials by trying to calm the tensions...so the next few days are a test for him

I know kothar reads these blogs and will not be surprised if they twist and fake a concern and some announcement or jesture is made , let us wait and watch

I read the waffle rookie and progicide go on , what amazes is they are enjoying the bashing how sick their minds are ...and these are the same loonies who would shed crocodile tears when describing the shahadat of Husain AS by shimmer ..what hypocrites ! I guess this is ten output of Jamia talebat and they are mullahs or sons of sheiks

[Rookie]

Reported -

HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF.......................!​!!

It was on August 8 2011 (8th Ramazan 1432H.) when ONE THOUSAND+ Dawoodi Bohra Youth (the ONLY TRUE BOHRAS) marched to the Udaipur Collectorate from Morning at 9. Raining very Heavily throughout the Day, the Administration thought these Bohras would perish Soon but as the Day passed the amount of people started Increasing at the Udaipur Collectorate and that was the Day, we created History by Offering Namaaz E Zohr and Asr outside the Collectorate. Everyone was there, Community Members (at least 2 from a Family), Politicians, Administrative Authorities, Media and all sorts of well wishers of Bohra Youth (Non Bohras).


What we demanded on that day was to stop the Illegal Construction going on in Mazar e Luqmanji Saheb (Waag) and action against the Culprits who were doing it.

And its Today, August 7 2012 when the Culprits of Abde Burhan Bohras are in the Jail and Abde Burhan Bohras are outside the Collectorate. We were 1000+ but Abde Burhan Bohras are not even 100!!! They have messaged around 10 times to the community Members but no one is interested as the Shababi Mumineen also knows that those indulged in attacking ROZDAAR Bohra Youth MUMINEEN were Ibn Mulzims of Abde Burhan Bohras.

On that Day we were figting for noble cause for our Mola Lukman Jeev Dargah. But, today Abde Bhrhans have there so called nakli Reputation on stake.

Till the Latest News that we get from there, all locked up Abde Burhan Culprits are not yet released and there are Almost no chances for them to get released Today. Inshallah.

Satyamev Jayate.

Allah blessings are with Mumineen of Bohra Youth (the ONLY TRUE BOHRAS).

so again your threated people to join this fake julooses?

how many paid members joined it?

I wonder where is warrior , why havent he reported any thing, if this is a real case.....or may be he and his family is threatened again to keep silence

[Sajauddin_Bagwala]

Udaipur ke Newspaper: AAJ KA SAYANKAL ke first page per bold letters me culprit Abde Burhan Bohra ke gunde ke giriftari ki khabar: "Royal Motors ka maalik giriftaar".

[Rookie]

Udaipur ke Newspaper: AAJ KA SAYANKAL ke first page per bold letters me culprit Abde Burhan Bohra ke gunde ke giriftari ki khabar: "Royal Motors ka maalik giriftaar".

he wont stay in jail even for 48 hours

hehe btw progticide have asked some valid question, where were you when your people were getting beatings?

[Rookie]

Mr reporter I must say, your reporting skills are pathetic, yet you havent showed us a single photo or a video, about bohras attacking progs.

[Humsafar]

Mubarak a.k.a Sajauddin Bagwala a.k.a Mnoorani,

Hijre ki tarah is forum par taali bajaane se behtar hota agar tu wahan apne bhaiyyon ke saath do-chaar ghuseh-jootein khaa kar aata.......buzdil.....wahan reporter bankar tamasha dekhta raha aur yahan sher ban raha he.....tere chele-chapaaton ko teri ghatiyaan shayari nahi ab teri asliyat nazar aa rahi he ki tu kitna bada darpok aur phattu he.....zara apne chele-chapaton ko bata toh sahi ke jab woh maar khaa rahe the tab tu kis masjid mein kis imam ke pichhe khada tha.....jab tere chelon ko apni naani yaad aa rahi thi tab tujhe kaunse kiye hue gunaahon ki yaad aa rahi thi.....

Agar tu wahan maujood tha jaisa ki tune khud upar likha he, toh tu kar kya raha tha? Apne bhaiyyon ko pittate dekh mazein loot raha tha yah teri itni phati thi ki tu kisi kone mein chhup kar apni gili pant sukha raha tha....

Pesticide, is that your response to this heinous and shameful act - attacking rozdaars inside the masjid when they are praying namaz in the month of Ramzan? We know that you abdes are brainwashed, but it's amazing that the brainwashing is so complete and thorough that there is no sense of humanity left in you sheeple (sheep + people). What is the use of all your grand-standing and big talk of rationality and logic and psychobabble that you so proudly flaunt here. It's all just a thin veneer, the moment it is scratched and the moment your neat theological structure is ruffled, you show your true self - a lying, abusive guttersnipe that you are. Shame on you.
And shame also on all those reasonable types, the "abdes with a conscience". Where the hell are they? Do they need any more proof that masters indeed are a violent, ruthless and criminal thugs. Oh wait, how can they condemn this? This is not their "personal experience"! This is not within their "sphere of existence!

[Reporter]

Mr reporter I must say, your reporting skills are pathetic, yet you havent showed us a single photo or a video, about bohras attacking progs.

[Reporter]

Bohra Unrest: 9 Sent to Jail
The Shabab-Youth brawl on Monday 6th Aug took an interesting turn today when nine members of Shabab Community including Sheikh Shabbir Mustafa (in photo above) were sent to judicial custody by Udaipur session court.


Sheikh Shabbir Mustafa


Thousands of Bohra men from Shabab group marched to collector’s office after offering namaz at Taiyabeiyah School, Delhi Gate and gave a letter of memorandum to district collector seeking dropping of all charges against the accused.

[Rookie]

Bohra Unrest: 9 Sent to Jail
The Shabab-Youth brawl on Monday 6th Aug took an interesting turn today when nine members of Shabab Community including Sheikh Shabbir Mustafa (in photo above) were sent to judicial custody by Udaipur session court.


Sheikh Shabbir Mustafa


Thousands of Bohra men from Shabab group marched to collector’s office after offering namaz at Taiyabeiyah School, Delhi Gate and gave a letter of memorandum to district collector seeking dropping of all charges against the accused.

so u are telling us law could not keep them behind bars even for 48 hours?

[anajmi]

Maybe we should have some sunnis pray with the progressives the next time these shabab idiots show up. We can then see how these ass wipes run with their tail between their legs and offer apologies on national TV!!

[Reporter]

so u are telling us law could not keep them behind bars even for 48 hours?

All nine are still in custody. The bail was denied. It seems attempt-to-murder is one of the charges laid against the accused. It is a serious charge and only high court can rule on it. Despite repeated appeals by Shabab leaders no more than 200 abdes turned up at the Collectorate to pressure the administration to grant bail to the accused. In the last-ditch desperate messaging, abdes were even told that "if you don't come our case can become weak". Two or three accused are reportedly absconding.

[Reporter]

See full, up to date report here:
Orthodox attack reformist Bohras inside masjid

[ghulam muhammed]

so u are telling us law could not keep them behind bars even for 48 hours?

Unfortunately it is India where corruption is the rule of the day, if it would have been a country like saudi then a mere fatwa could have wetted the abdes pants, see how a simple fatwa from saudi authorities barred the dai from visiting the country for 20 years !

[think]

where do you get the rule only 19 can pray in the mosque. something is terribly wrong. all mumineen have the right to pray in the masjid. where is the muffi and his goons when all this is taking place. has he escaped with his saya behind him to another town? or is he there to make the wrong right. thumbs up for bohra youth. your bravery and courage are watched all over the middle east and the west. such sheikhy shabab leaders are very common in karachi jamaat also with their big rougue bhaisaheb kanini. hope this gives courage to the mumineen of karachi to topple the filthy and corrupt sheikhs of karachi. actually i know some very learned people who do not want the title of sheikh or mulla even for free because they think the titles have been tied with money and to call some one a sheikh means money man full of corruption. nothing at all to do with being god fearing or pious.

[Humsafar]

so u are telling us law could not keep them behind bars even for 48 hours?

All nine are still in custody. The bail was denied. It seems attempt-to-murder is one of the charges laid against the accused. It is a serious charge and only high court can rule on it. Despite repeated appeals by Shabab leaders no more than 200 abdes turned up at the Collectorate to pressure the administration to grant bail to the accused. In the last-ditch desperate messaging, abdes were even told that "if you don't come our case can become weak". Two or three accused are reportedly absconding.

Out of thousands of abdes only 200 turned up. Tsk tsk.... don't tell me even sheep are beginning to think. Not a good sign. Hey Adam, time to unleash Haqiqi Yoga in Udaipur. By the way where are you? Your silence on this matter is particularly deafening!
It would be interesting to see how this cookie crumbles, but those who have seen this before know how: the mafia clergy's political and financial clout will be brought to bear upon the authorities, pockets will be lined and palms of all and sundry will by greased and the culprits will be out in a couple of days if not sooner. And given the snail's pace of India's judicial system the court cases will drag on for years to come. But in the short term this whole shameful and criminal episode has given a tremendous boost to the reform movement and once again energised reformists.
It is always so satisfying to see the criminal Kothar in the dock and see its local hangers criminally charged. Shabbir Mustafa, the so-called sheikh is Kothar's rich and useful resident idiot in Udaipur. He comes from a poor family but has made it big with Honda bike dealerships. With money he has bought shiekh-hood and is well regarded among abde circles. Here's a classic example of why the nouveau rich, semi-literate Bohras suck up to the mafia clergy - it buys them respectability and good standing and legitimacy among community members. Strange that these fools buy legitimacy from one of the most criminal and illegitimate of religious establishments. But if it works then why not. What is that saying, chor ka bhai ghanti chor?

[Humsafar]

where do you get the rule only 19 can pray in the mosque. something is terribly wrong...

Yes, it is terribly wrong. At one time the Moyyiadpura masjid belonged to us reformists but due to the convoluted court case, constant badgering of the Kothar and their ability to bribe their way and particularly due to the betrayal of our own people (former reformist leader Ghulam Hussain and others), we slowly lost control and ceded nearly the whole masjid to abdes. The allocation of just 60 spaces for reformists is humiliating and unconscionable - and we reformists will never be able to live down this shameful compromise. Now the masjid is under court's jurisdiction, and police lock and unlock the doors at pre-arranged times.

[Biradar]

It is amazing to see the low-life abde-fanatics on this forum making fun of this horrible incident or just staying silent. It does not occur to them that the tenants of Islam are not for those who have not even achieved a basic level of humanity. All the fasting, beating of chests and praying is completely useless and without any spiritual benefit. What is the point of reading philosophical and religious books if one can not lift ones head from these tomes and condemn inhuman and barbaric acts?

Perhaps reasoning with these people is pointless. Once a person looses all use of the faculties which Allah has given them, it is pointless arguing or trying to convince them of anything. They will continue to tow the party line as they have lost the use of their own reason. Welcome to the new Bohra hive mind.

[think]

is this the kind of example set by our religious leader; house of allah is under lock and key. house of Allah's doors should be wide open to allow all allah loving persons to pray.

[asad]

free for all

[ahmedplumber]

It is amazing to see the low-life abde-fanatics on this forum making fun of this horrible incident or just staying silent. It does not occur to them that the tenants of Islam are not for those who have not even achieved a basic level of humanity. All the fasting, beating of chests and praying is completely useless and without any spiritual benefit. What is the point of reading philosophical and religious books if one can not lift ones head from these tomes and condemn inhuman and barbaric acts?

Perhaps reasoning with these people is pointless. Once a person looses all use of the faculties which Allah has given them, it is pointless arguing or trying to convince them of anything. They will continue to tow the party line as they have lost the use of their own reason. Welcome to the new Bohra hive mind.

Has it occoured to you that some of us are silent because we are so deeply disturbed by what has happened?

Forget being Reformist or Abde Syedna, the fact is that we are all Bohra's and we fought in Ramazan and we fought inside, or maybe in the vicinity of a mosque is what is so hurtful for me personally...

[progticide]

Mubarak a.k.a Sajauddin Bagwala a.k.a Mnoorani a.k.a Badrijanab,

Zara ye to bata jab tere bhai maar khaa rahe the tab tu kahan chhupaa betha tha aur kya kar raha tha.....

[Abbas_chopra]

stop this blame game.if youth don want to see shabab then why they always come infront of them so that they fight.

[zulfikar123]

Mr Progticide,

You are sounding like a broken record in red colour. If you dont have anything to say....then just keep quiet.

Sometime being silent is also a good thing.

[Rookie]

free for all

omg it is clearly visible in this picture thaat attacker is prog ( in punjabi) and the one who is trying to save her self is innocent dawoodi bohra( she is in rida)

SHAME ON YOU PROG THAT YOU ARE ATTACKING INNOCENT BOHRAS IN MONTH OF RAMADAN

[mnoorani]

Mubarak a.k.a Sajauddin Bagwala a.k.a Mnoorani a.k.a Badrijanab,

Zara ye to bata jab tere bhai maar khaa rahe the tab tu kahan chhupaa betha tha aur kya kar raha tha.....

Mola Bachao , mola Bachao, mein cheeikk raha tha,
Jab masuum par zulm huwa ,mein cheeikh raha tha.
Masjid mein jab khoon baha to ibne mulzim yaad aaya,
Mola bachao,mola bachao kehna band kardi ya tha.

Mola Bachao , Mola Bachao mein cheekh raha tha,
Jab masuum par zulm huwa ,mein cheeikh raha tha.
Behno ko jab peeta to "pehla" yaad ayaa tha
Mola bachao,mola bachao kehna band kardi ya tha.

Mola Bachao , Mola Bachao mein cheekh raha tha,
Jab masuum par zulm huwa ,mein cheeikh raha tha.
Ek zakhmi mumin saamne aaya to shimar yaad aaya tha,
Mola bachao,mola bachao kehna band kardi ya tha.


Hairat nahi noorani , ke khaamoshi chaayii hui hai
Dukh hai dil me ke umayyad ka raaj hai.

[Dbc1]

. Here's a classic example of why the nouveau rich, semi-literate Bohras suck up to the mafia clergy - it buys them respectability and good standing and legitimacy among community members. Strange that these fools buy legitimacy from one of the most criminal and illegitimate of religious establishments. But if it works then why not. What is that saying, chor ka bhai ghanti chor?

Very well thought brother...
Not to forget it also buys them extra kharaas and meethas for all the jamaat jamans.. Lol

[ozmujaheed]

Admin or anyone from Udaipur can you update what arrangements are being made to care for the victims and injured from both sides ?

Is their medical help and trauma and shock counseling being provided by local authorities or the community.

I think rather than only worrying about who is in jail or bail there needs to be report on how the society is recovering and getting back to normality .

There needs to be leadership from progressive s to later think of starting the reconciliation process , this way you will show higher integrity and real leadership than kothar

[ahmedplumber]

Ozmujaheed, When i read your post, i was pleasently surprised.

but unfortunately, your last sentence ruined it all.

you are right, in times like this, one needs to worry more about the well-being of all who were injured, not indulge in one-upmanship try and score brownie points over one another.

and yes, if anyone from our side of the spectrum suggested this, i would have given them the same feedback too