Mass Destruction Of Bohra Graves In Surat Qabrastan.

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Mass Destruction Of Bohra Graves In Surat Qabrastan.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:11 pm

The residents of surat and bohras from other parts of the world visiting the city must be aware of the mass destruction of graves in the age old qabrastan in the vicinity of the Roza of Syedna Abdeali Saifuddin. It is shocking and sad that the graves of hundreds of bohras, some of which are over a century old have been razed as part of a masterplan of the wicked kothar. Every single grave with the exception of a couple of it belonging to a qasre ali member (probably some dawoodbhai saab) and that of the mother of the 52nd dai have been razed to ground level. The grave of the qasre ali member is covered with a chhatri but the grave of the dai's mother is left open like any other grave of an ordinary bohra. The reasons for the unlikely treatment to the said grave and the insignificance of the same is well documented on this forum.

As per some reports, this destruction started a few years back and the contract was given to a rich bohra from south east asia (probably Hongkong) who took it upon himself to "beautify" the roza by destroying the other "insignificant" graves by laying an exquisite marble flooring. The abde felt indebted to the dai for giving him the "azeem-us-shaan" sharaf of carrying out this inhuman act in the guise of beautifying the roza and its sehan.

It is reported that the abde later on contracted severe diabetes due to which both his legs were amputed, he died a few months back. His son got married some time back and had given a ziafat to the dai for performing his nikah. Needless to say that the late abde must have been given the title of shaheed for getting martyred in the way of Allah (swt), an idiotic solace which is provided to some brainwashed abdes who die in exceptional circumstances.

What is more surprising is that NONE of the effected families whose ancesteral graves have been desecrated has raised a voice of protest !!!! The victims include some prominent families like Hajooris, Kinkhabwalas, badri etc. who at one time had financially helped the earlier dais upto Syedna Taher Saifuddin. This is what they got by way of reward !!!

Slavery has penetrated so deeply in abde's phsyic that they not only refuse to raise words of protest against illtreatment of their ownselves but even to that of their dead relatives. It is shameful and disgusting when one sees such meek and gullible people in this modern world who are worse then cowards as they do nothing to prevent mass destructions of the only last visible signs of their ancestors.

These are the same people who raise a hue and cry when graves are destroyed in saudi arabia but when it comes to their beloved dai and zaadas they become "bheegi billis". Its high time they stop blaming talibans as they have a much deadly version ruling over them in their own community.

There is no doubt that this mass destruction was done only for monetary benefits as kothar now has a vast tract of open land at their disposal which they can exploit commercially. What a better way to pump in their illgotten black money then to invest it in the business of real estate, a sector which is bound to grow irrespective of a market slump. Land is scarce in big cities of India hence bohras should now be prepared to see many such mass destructions especially in lucrative areas like Naryalwadi Mazgaon, Charni road and other qabrastans in major Indian cities. Many more ventures like SBUT Bhendi bazaar redevelopment project should be in the pipeline as there is a major problem of "Chronic surplus" of funds giving sleepless nights to the zaadas in saifee mahal due to the record breaking numbers of ziafats, hadiyats, mafsusiyats, nikahs, wajebats, mohurrum sermon FEES, masjid waqfs etc etc. Someone needs to invite the officials of the Federal Reserve to saifee mahal for lessons in turning their "Chronic" deficits into "Chronic" surplusses !!

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Re: Mass Destruction Of Bohra Graves In Surat Qabrastan.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:02 pm

There is a deafening silence from the abdes who are always hell bent on justifying all the misdeeds of the dai and kothar. It seems that this episode has hit them below the belt !!

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Re: Mass Destruction Of Bohra Graves In Surat Qabrastan.

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Unread post by Kaka Akela » Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:00 am

Bro GM: Surat is not the only place where this is happening, Ahmedabad, Burhanpur, Galiyakot, Jamnagar and other places where you see a nice marble sehan surrounding the mazaar, they have done the same thing.
to appease people and shut them up they announce in a vaez that all those graves that were in sehan have now been included in the ziarat of mazaar, this way people are happy that their relatives are now counted in the mazaar ziarat and say nothing. very cunniving people, you can not corner them as they have thought of all the answers even before the questions come up.

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Unread post by mnoorani » Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:50 am

Very good information posted by GM.
The destruction of ones loved ones grave and the quiet acceptance of the same is telling us that the bohras are now a non innovative community. I think it started with the destruction of the Fatemi masjid to make place for grand Raudat tahera. A few people did make some noise then but now all are quiet. Dai has already been declared the Haqiqi Kaaba and Illahil Ardh. I think that the next generation will be stopped from praying namaaz altogether. It is now evident amongst the abdes of today that ziyarat of our noble auliya kiraam and the deedar of H.H takes over more importance than namaaz. All are in the firm beleif that SAyedna will take them to Jannat,no matter whatever sin or crime they commit. The recent tragedy at Udaipur is proof of that. Where the Abdes planned an attack and took weapons into the masjid. If it was done by ola musalmaan then it would have been spread in vaaez. Why has everybody become ao thick headed. Wil there be an awakening.
IS it not surprising that the very vocal abdes like aqs is also quiet now ? Remember his refusal to accept a residentof Saifee mahal as a owner of Bombay paints ,giving out interest on deposits. It took proofs of pprinte dmaterial from SBM to quieten him down. What is the use of obtaining knowledge from secret sabbaks when you cannot point out to the wrongdoings in the community you live in ? What is the use of keeping the sunnati beard and cap of rasullullah when you remain quiet about the bloody violence in a mosque. What for is the detailed sabak of Daim where the 100 qualities of the Dai are mentioned and you are not able to distinguish between the qualities mentioned and the qualities actually possessed.
God save the queen !

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:16 pm

I recently bumped into an old bohra gentleman from Surat who was in his mid 80's who said that there was a grave of one of the 4 wives of Taher Saifuddin saab just outside the roza of Syedna Abdeali Saifuddin which too was demolished alongwith other graves in order to beautify the sehan and exploit it for commercial use. When I asked him as to why the grave of the Dai's wife was not spared, he said that she was the same woman who was accused of having killed the infant child of one of her souten, a mention of which was made earlier on this forum by some senior member. In the early days bohras were hesitant to do her ziarat as rumours of her haunted spirit doing rounds were spread by some vested interest in saifee mahal !!