Bohra SMS Duniya

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progticide
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by progticide » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:56 am

asad wrote:
progticide wrote: Firstly, who asked you to justify the action of Saheb-e-Haq? Who are you and what are you that you be chosen to justify the actions of anyone else but your ownself?
You should only be worried about your own actions that you would be made to justify on the Day of Judgement.

Do not trouble your miserable soul into justifying actions of others, least the actions of those who are Masoom. There are things which are beyond the grasp of your "AQL". And so it is best that such things remain undiscussed lest you transgress into the domain forbidden to you.

And those who are shedding crocodile tears on this subject, make sure you are not following the path of Satan or you may really end up crying on the Day of Judgement. :lol:
Progticide,

The problem was i was not on the payroll of Kothar as your good self. I was an abde who got offended by allegations against people i revered, so naturally would have defended them. as we are on topic of Masoom can you please confirm if Mansoos is also masoom, he is masoom from the day he was born or the day nass was conferred or he will become masoom once Dai is no more oh wait he is going to be Ta qayaamat in sehat o afiyat.
Another moronic rant....this forum is full of people like you.....you are one of those who feel offended with allegations so easily that you would even rush for a DNA test to prove your paternal lineage if your neighbour tells you that the one you call father is not your real father....so cut the crap.....

aflatoon
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by aflatoon » Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:32 am

bhai asad these are all old gimmicks before every annual collection drive to psychologically ward off anti establishment thoughts from the minds of gullible bohras, and collect more and moremoney for themselves.

1. a dash of religious statement.( anything related to rasool ul lah s.a.w. or ahle bayt)
2.main ingredient their personal greed for more and more.(wajebaat and wajebaat)
3. topping of passion whipping. ( purjosh maatam)

hozi.fa
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by hozi.fa » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:26 am

as salaam walikum to everyone, i m new to this forum, i was reading all of ur's comments, wud like to say all ur debates are like gossips, & some how feels gossip is haram, cant u guys come up with some idea wht really can help innocent bohra ppl who are trapped, why don u guys promote ur view to more & more ppl as this website & view are hardly know my other bohra ppl, todays generation even don know abt progressive dawoodi bohra who is fighting for some revolution inside bohra community. keep ur point clear wht is wrng, how wud like to correct it.

SBM
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by SBM » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:39 am

hozi.fa
wud u help poor in Ahmedabad or wud u help this website ck thrds
r u the same person under nu avtar?

Al Zulfiqar
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:03 am

asad wrote: as we are on topic of Masoom can you please confirm if Mansoos is also masoom, he is masoom from the day he was born or the day nass was conferred or he will become masoom once Dai is no more oh wait he is going to be Ta qayaamat in sehat o afiyat.
mansoos will become masoom the day he becomes incapable of controlling his natural bodily functions, the same way a child is masoom until its starts actually going to the toilet like an adult. his father has already become masoom.

Bohra spring
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:31 pm

Farman factory

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:03 pm

asad wrote:Tame je bhi amal karso ye saglu tamari taraf wali ne awse, amal صداء ni misal chhe echo ni misal kai bhi bolo to pacho awaz apni tarafj wali ne awe, ehma emm jumlo farmayo k

يرد الافعال الى الفاعلين
What about the "Amal" of exhuming body of Peerbhai's relatives and throwing it on streets ? What about the "Amal" of beating 4 ustads black and blue and murdering one of them ? In Mansoos' words.......... "echo ni misal aa amal paacha wali ne aava joiye" back to the ones who performed these "Amals" !!

porus
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by porus » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:25 pm

يرد الافعال الى الفاعلين
Grammatically incorrect. It should be "ترد الافعال الى الفاعلين".

taruddu instead of yaruddu! That is very elementary Arabic!

anajmi
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by anajmi » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:23 pm

Just to clarify, يرد is present tense for third person male and ترد is present tense for second person male or third person female determined by the rest of the sentence which in this case implies second person male.

porus
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by porus » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:44 pm

anajmi wrote:Just to clarify, يرد is present tense for third person male and ترد is present tense for second person male or third person female determined by the rest of the sentence which in this case implies second person male.
Brilliant analysis by self-styled advanced scholar of Arabic!!

"ترد الافعال الى الفاعلين".

Let us teach him some elementary Arabic.

taruddu al-af'aal ila al-faa'ileen.

taruddu = verb, 3rd person female singular (present tense)

al-af'aal = subject, male plural noun (plural of al-fi'l)

ila = preposition (jaar)

al-faa'ileen = male plural noun in genitive case (majroor) because it follows preposition

Rule: All inanimate plural subjects, male or female, are regarded as feminine singular (in verbal sentences)

Got it? Professor of Advanced Arabic? :roll:
Last edited by porus on Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.

anajmi
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by anajmi » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:01 pm

Well, I got about 3/4 ths of it right. Not bad after 2 years of Arabic. Imagine what I will do to you in 6 more months. :wink:

porus
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by porus » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:08 pm

anajmi wrote:Well, I got about 3/4 ths of it right. Not bad after 2 years of Arabic. Imagine what I will do to you in 6 more months. :wink:
You got 0% right. Hey, but I think you have potential. Six more months and I am sure you will stand shoulder to shoulder with the Ustaads of al-Azhar! Good luck though and happy studying! :)

anajmi
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by anajmi » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:47 pm

Well, I am good enough to come after you even with 0% Arabic knowledge. From here on out, it is only going to get more painful. You might want to take another 6 month break my friend.

LionHunter
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by LionHunter » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:44 pm

LionHunter wrote:
progticide wrote: Firstly, who asked you to justify the action of Saheb-e-Haq? Who are you and what are you that you be chosen to justify the actions of anyone else but your ownself?
You should only be worried about your own actions that you would be made to justify on the Day of Judgement.

Do not trouble your miserable soul into justifying actions of others, least the actions of those who are Masoom. There are things which are beyond the grasp of your "AQL". And so it is best that such things remain undiscussed lest you transgress into the domain forbidden to you.

And those who are shedding crocodile tears on this subject, make sure you are not following the path of Satan or you may really end up crying on the Day of Judgement. :lol:
yes we all can see who is following path of satan :roll:

why dont you bring logical statement behind killing and wasting money on ayyashi in africa by mansoos, so we all can know the so called "logic" behind it.

now dont hide back again in curtain and reply this simple question.
?????

waiting for the logical explaination behind mansoos ayyashi :roll:

asad
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by asad » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:13 am

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asad
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by asad » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:21 am

Gaikale moula ye gazab shaan batawi
Moula aje dupehre bethak na baad zyafat ma padhara te baad baaz muminin na gharo ma qadam kida nd te baad return ma jyare wapas ghare padharta tha to rasta ma 2 African bairawo rasta ma jharu karta tha, safai karta tha moula ye gaari rukawi ane aap no salaam no thelo ye bewe ne api dido nd padhari gaya,

asad
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by asad » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:22 am

this is such a trash that Kothar didnt even check the link before circulating the message.


Dr. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb give Rs. 14 crore 21 lakh only to the ministry of uttarakhand welfare society for the social upplifment of uttarakhand crises for poor peoples.
Thanks by :- Ministry of home govt. of india and ministry of social welfare, uttarakhand.
http://www.uttarakhandcrisesajtak.in.com.

humanbeing
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by humanbeing » Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:29 pm

Ramadan Season is going to start and Kuwait Jamat has opened their shops. Bohra Markaz space on sale.
Following sms are now circulated :
Mumineen are requested compulsorily pay registration & Niyaz Hoob and collect registration card till Friday in Markaz ul-Burhani Al-Ardiya from 9 pm to 10 pm.

hozi.fa
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by hozi.fa » Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:28 am

SBM wrote:hozi.fa
wud u help poor in Ahmedabad or wud u help this website ck thrds
r u the same person under nu avtar?

who same person ???

asad
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by asad » Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:34 am

humanbeing wrote:Ramadan Season is going to start and Kuwait Jamat has opened their shops. Bohra Markaz space on sale.
Following sms are now circulated :
Mumineen are requested compulsorily pay registration & Niyaz Hoob and collect registration card till Friday in Markaz ul-Burhani Al-Ardiya from 9 pm to 10 pm.
can this be reported to awkaf, that people are being asked to pay to pray and segregation is their based on money you paid for space in the Masjid.

asad
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by asad » Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:56 am

reports are coming in the a vehicle in Mansoos kafila in Yemen has turtled and mumineen have died in the accident.

LionHunter
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by LionHunter » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:22 am

asad wrote:reports are coming in the a vehicle in Mansoos kafila in Yemen has turtled and mumineen have died in the accident.
RIP

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:54 pm

Sanaa si Hutaib jata Yunus BS ane thora logo nu accident thayu che..... Mufaddal Maula TUS ye namaz parhavi..... Aa sahi vaat che. Gai kale shareka Yemen ma accident thayu.
2 Momin guzri gaya che,
Mola ne ghanu ranj thayo che Farmayu havye si koi gaadi par LATKI ne na jai.
Mola ye bewe na janaza par namaz parhawi
1. Taiyab Zahra na dikra
2. Abdullah Nizar na bhai na dikra.

LionHunter
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by LionHunter » Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:18 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:Sanaa si Hutaib jata Yunus BS ane thora logo nu accident thayu che..... Mufaddal Maula TUS ye namaz parhavi..... Aa sahi vaat che. Gai kale shareka Yemen ma accident thayu.
2 Momin guzri gaya che,
Mola ne ghanu ranj thayo che Farmayu havye si koi gaadi par LATKI ne na jai.
Mola ye bewe na janaza par namaz parhawi
1. Taiyab Zahra na dikra
2. Abdullah Nizar na bhai na dikra.
he shud have common sense and told this before, may be life of two person would have been saved. :roll:

Bohra spring
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:01 pm

LionHunter wrote:
ghulam muhammed wrote:Sanaa si Hutaib jata Yunus BS ane thora logo nu accident thayu che..... Mufaddal Maula TUS ye namaz parhavi..... Aa sahi vaat che. Gai kale shareka Yemen ma accident thayu.
2 Momin guzri gaya che,
Mola ne ghanu ranj thayo che Farmayu havye si koi gaadi par LATKI ne na jai.
Mola ye bewe na janaza par namaz parhawi
1. Taiyab Zahra na dikra
2. Abdullah Nizar na bhai na dikra.
he shud have common sense and told this before, may be life of two person would have been saved. :roll:
what he did not pre-know this was about to happen...where was his mind...distracted by something more important

LionHunter
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by LionHunter » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:23 am

Bohra spring wrote:
LionHunter wrote: he shud have common sense and told this before, may be life of two person would have been saved. :roll:
what he did not pre-know this was about to happen...where was his mind...distracted by something more important[/quote]

like?

ps-its a common sense one shud not go by hanging on cars.

Maqbool
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by Maqbool » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:15 am

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asad
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by asad » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:39 am

Maqbool wrote:
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Very chaste Gujarati and not legible also. if a better copy is published might be someone will be able to translate or transliterate it.

Hozefa
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by Hozefa » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:57 am

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asif786
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by asif786 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:14 pm

Got the below on whatsup

FINALLY, DAWAT E HADIYAH'S IS DIVIDED IN TWO

Based on the recent Saify Mahal news, Estates of the Dawat E Hadiyah is being divided in two parts, one for Aqa moula and Second for Mazon Saheb Khozema Bhaisaheb.


Saify Mahal and Badri Mahal will be given to Khozema Bhai Saheb. The new Burhani Mahal (being bought from Cama family in 108-crores) will become the place for Aqa Moula and Shezadas in coming months. Badri Mahal is being renovated removing all offices to hand over to Mazoon Saheb in few months.

Why this is being done?


Reason is that the Late Sayedna Taher Safuddin Saheb had promised in writing to make Khozema Bhai Saheb the 53rd Daiul Mutlaq. Becuase of this written document, Sayedna Mohammad Burhanuddin Saheb is unable to do NUS to any one else. He was waiting for the early death of Khozema Saheb (cancer), but it appears that Khozema Saheb may survive longer than the Sayedna and further wait may not help any one.

The power struggle was going on for the last many years and was becoming severe in the last few years. Both parties were ready for the show down but some how compromise formula was found out and both parties agreed to the solution in writing.

The Vasiyat of Late Sayedna was bought over and sold in Crores of rupees.