Bohra SMS Duniya

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ghulam muhammed
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:59 pm

Forwarded as Received :

Aaj no vayez no topic:
Malakiyu As Shamaeel.

Syedna taher Saifudin aqa farmavi chukka che ... Aqa Mola 52 Dai ye Malakiyu As Shamaeel che...

1) Malik ane Malak ma fark ye che : Malik means je jismaani tor par malik che ehne Malik kahe.

2) Malak means je ruhani shaksiyat che ehne Malak kahe che.

3) Malaekat bil quwat ane Malaekal bil faeel...

4) Maa na pet ma je nutfah reh jaye che ye Malaeekat bil quwat che..

5) Je shaks taat kare farmani kare khuda ni taqwa kare ye Malaeekat bil faeel..

6) Ohad ni jung ma Abu Sufyan ye lashkar lai ne Rasoolallah na saathe jung kari... Rasoolallah ne ye jung ma 60 zakhm laaga ane aap ye Makkah ne fateh kida...

7) Kaaba ni height 40 feet.. Rasoolallah ye Ali ne itna uncha uthaya agar Ali a.s. chaahe to aasman ne chhu sake che..

8) Jyaare Ali a.s. Kaaba par chadi gaya ane itni unchai si kudi pada pachi Ali kahe che mane kai bhi nahi laagi... Rasoolallah farmave che tamne chadaya Kaaba par Mohammed ye... ane utaara Jibraeel ye. Jyaare aap kuda Jibraeel ye paakh ne feylawi lida...

9) Namaz ma afzal ma afzal pehli saff che... Wuzu ma har aangli ni masah kare ane daanto ma je fasi jaye ye saaf karjo. Raat ma jaman pachi daatan karwu jayez che ehna si daant mazboot thaai ane Rizq wadhe che...

10) Rasoolallah farmave che koi shaks chhellu jaman thaal ma hoi lai ne angli si chaati ne saaf kare ehna waaste rozi ma ghani ghani wadhti jaye barkat thaai ane Malekat khush thaai che...

11) Namaz ne waqto par ada karjo...

12) Ae Muminaat behno Tamara mardo ni taaat kare... koi bairo potana mard ne bina kahi ne ghar se bahar nikle to malaeekat ehna upar laanat padhse...

13) Seena ma keena na hova joye..

14) Saasu bahu ma jhagda na hoye..

15) Gussa hargiz na karjo. Gussa insan ne khaai jaye che..

16) Gunaah na sabab rozi chali jaye che...

17) Koi shaks ehni hayaat ma maut na lag koi miskeen jamaarse ehna vaaste jannat che..

18) Koi shaks Umrah kari ne aave ane guzri jaye to ehna vaaste jannat che...

19) Koi shaks Haj kari ne aawa ane guzri jaye ehna vaaste jannat che..


adna_mumin
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by adna_mumin » Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:09 pm

A moving video sure to shake a true mohib of Syedna Burhanuddin RA.
Haq su che?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o228hsugQ1w

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:32 pm

Forwarded as received :

Dubai Vaaz points :

Aap ye dua kidhi ke ek din apne Rasulallah (SAW) ni zarih na nazdik salawat parhye.

Aaj no topic Malkiyus Shamaeel che.. Burhanudin mola ni shaan ma Taher Saifudin aqa farmaavta shamaeel ni maana akhlaq si che (ehna akhlaq malayekat jevaj hata)..

Mumin ne khush karva nu sawab... Mola ne khush karva ma kitnu sawab... Mumin na dil ne khush kare to jivare aa guzri jaye che tivaare ehna 2 farishta Khuda ni hazrat ma haazir thaai ne arz karse ke have hamare raza thaai to taari bandagi taara aasman ma kariye tivaare Khuda farmavse ke na yeh maari ibadat karva wala chhe ane hukum karse farishta tamari qabar na nazdik salwat padse e eni ek rakaat namaz ane Bani Adam ni 70 rakaat karta afzal che..

Aa to mumin ne khush karva ma sawab che to mumenin Dai na dil ne khush karso to e mumenin tame 52 ma Dai ne Ghana khush kida che..

Dai Malik ane Maalik beve che.. Malik kone kehvay je badhsa hoi mulk enu hoi ehne ane Maalik ni maana su ke farishta .. Malak su kare che ke jismaani kalib ma si jaan ne Malak banavi de je ane malaket na zumra ma shaamil kari de che...

Burhanudin aqa Maluakat shamaeel tha... je amal karta e Khuda ni marzi si karta.. Aap ye apni aakhri saans tak je amal kara che ye Khuda ni khushi mutabik ane Imam ni khushi mutabik hata ema zara pan farak nohto... Dai masoom che... Have em khayal karvo ke aap koi na dabaan ma aavi ne amal karta to e Ghana Ghana Ghana mohta gunaah che...

Mumenin jami ne daatan karvu joiye daant saaf karva joye.. agar daar ma kai fasai gayu hoi to ehne nikaalvu joiye...
Farishta ne e pasand nathi ke namaz padhta hoi ane daant ma jaman hoi.. ane agar jaman na thaal par besa hoi ane daant ma si nikaalo to bijo haath muh par muke ane pachi nikaale aa ne aam na nikaale...

Jaman na vaasan ma aakhri jaman ghanu barkat vaalu che.. Jaman ne aangli si chaate che chellu jaman to ena par malayekat salwat padhe che ane rozi zyaada thaai che...

189 mawaje si yaha logo aavi ne vasela che... Dubai na mumin ne khair na kaam ma Ghana che... takriban 66 Masjid nu taamiri kaam Dubai na mumenin ne naseeb thayu che jema si 15 masjid nu kaam chaalu che...

Dubai na mumenin ne to khair na kaam ni aadat padhi gai che... Bawasaab ni Ziyafat vaaram vaar kari che ane sagla karta vadhaare Wajebat ghani ada kare che... thoda varso pehla samjhaavu padhtu hatu have to bas aap likho.....

Aap mola ye 21 million 52 thousand qardan hasanah scheme ma inayat kidha che em neeyat si ke 21 ma Imam ane 52 ma Dai ni barkat hamesha baaki rahe...

Khuda Aqa Mola ne ta qayamat baaki raakhe.. Ameen.

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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by haqniwaat » Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:25 pm

adna_mumin wrote:A moving video sure to shake a true mohib of Syedna Burhanuddin RA.
Haq su che?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o228hsugQ1w
If after watching this the heart is still not convinced, then there is no more need to convince.

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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by dal-chaval-palidu » Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:23 am

SBM wrote:Crater Lake
This letter should be sent to DOJ Civil Right department US Attorney will investigate this case as this is social boycott and US Attorney takes this very seriously specially coming from the Non Profit Religious Authority,
Here is the contact
Central District of California Main Phone: (213) 894-2400
Central District of California Fax line: (213) 894-0141
By Postal Mail
Correspondence to the Central District of California, including the U.S. Attorney , may be sent to:
United States Attorney's Office
Central District of California
312 North Spring Street
Suite 1200
Los Angeles, California 90012
Alternatively they can also contact ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union in San Fransisco)
Since it is in writing you have proof of this Baarat nonsense
This should be pursued with the ACLU, and also with law enforcement authorities. And it should also be presented in the Indian courts as evidence of social boycott. Did they not say in the courts that they have not done social boycott? Here is an example where individual jammats are doing it.

While I am sad that this is being done, I am also aware that the reformists have been under social boycott and harrasment for many many years. Let us not forget that either, and all the pain and heartache that they have gone thru for so many decades.

thesource
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by thesource » Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:28 am

"Khush Khabar - Khush Khabar"

Koi bhi Mumin - Mumina ni Shaadi karwa ma koi pan jaat ni archan hoi, pachhi e financial hoi, domestic hoi ke koi biji hoi, saghla thi iltemas che ke te Marol na Aamil Janab Alibhai Nomani ne contact kare. Aa sarwajanik baap badha ni shaadi karavi aapse. Dulha-dulhan ni shaadi ni darees, jaman, shaadi na kaarajo, sarghasht, ghar, badhu apwa bandhaaela che, jeni khaatri levi.

Akhtiar Wahid
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:44 am

adna_mumin wrote:A moving video sure to shake a true mohib of Syedna Burhanuddin RA.
Haq su che?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o228hsugQ1w
when people did not recognize haq, while Prophet Mohammed (SAW) was doing nass on Imam Ali (AS) and majority of them parted away with the people who had power and money and where they found that they could live their life in prosperity in this world.
Sadly, this video would be seen by many but will be ignored and trashed and commented by Khuda ni Laanat.
Nothing can happen now, a blind person cannot see the ray of light to find his way on sirat-ul-mustaqeem!

haqniwaat
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by haqniwaat » Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:51 am

During civil disturbance adopt such an attitude that people do not attach any importance to you – they neither burden you with complicated affairs, nor try to derive any advantage out of you.
Ameer ul Mumineen Maulana Ali ibne Abi Taalib SA
Nahjul Balaagha

http://www.nahjulbalagha.org/Nahjul-Bal ... a-Sayings/

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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by Kharas_Mithas » Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:15 am

Akhtiar Wahid wrote:
adna_mumin wrote:A moving video sure to shake a true mohib of Syedna Burhanuddin RA.
Haq su che?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o228hsugQ1w
when people did not recognize haq, while Prophet Mohammed (SAW) was doing nass on Imam Ali (AS) and majority of them parted away with the people who had power and money and where they found that they could live their life in prosperity in this world.
Sadly, this video would be seen by many but will be ignored and trashed and commented by Khuda ni Laanat.
Nothing can happen now, a blind person cannot see the ray of light to find his way on sirat-ul-mustaqeem!
Bhai AW
No matter, haq will still prevail. People who are steadfast will not care for power and money. May allah help the cause of SKQ.
Itihaas gawah he, people on haq are always less in numbers. Starting from Rasool (SAW) doing nass on Imam Ali (AS), Hussain martyred in kerbala with his handful loyal ashab and ahle bayt.

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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by Dumbledore » Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:19 pm

Dawedar no dekro husain teni wife apna ma avi gaya
Mohammed Bhai raja and tasnem from Leicester whos daughters married to dawedaars husein is now back in misak

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Can anyone throw some light on this...specially people in close circle of SKQ
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Crater Lake
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by Crater Lake » Sun Dec 14, 2014 1:33 pm

Dumbledore wrote:Dawedar no dekro husain teni wife apna ma avi gaya
Mohammed Bhai raja and tasnem from Leicester whos daughters married to dawedaars husein is now back in misak

whatsapp message

Can anyone throw some light on this...specially people in close circle of SKQ
They have pressured other SKQ followers in the past to go and give misaq to MS. All have come back to SKQ. I have little doubt that will be the case here as well. Let whatever pressure was brought on them abate a little.

Once you have had a taste of pure water, you can only be forced to drink from a ditch for a little while. May Allah TA give them Yaari.

kimanumanu
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Sun Dec 14, 2014 1:39 pm

I don't understand the picture - it looks like some kind of warehouse setting. What was going on in this location? Was it someone's ziyafat? Is this from the current Dubai visit of SMS?

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:41 pm

Forwarded as Received :

Shehzada Aliwaqar Syedi Huzaifa BS Mohiyuddin DM no daaro che.

Beshumaar ehsanat che hum adna ghulamo na upar aapna.

Wiladat: 13 Jamadil Ula 1369/1st March 1950.
Wafat: 22 Safar al-Muzaffar 1433/ 16th January 2012
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There are more then 2000 members in the Dai's family so now they will celebrate every members death anniversary and keep the followers busy and extract money for these events..... One more avenue of looting the abdes.

Show photos of these "Royals" with 52nd Dai and emotionally lure the abdes.... Its like promoting Pepsi with a photo of Salman Khan
.

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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by Moiz_Dhaanu » Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:59 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:Forwarded as received :

Dubai Vaaz points :

Aap ye dua kidhi ke ek din apne Rasulallah (SAW) ni zarih na nazdik salawat parhye.

Aaj no topic Malkiyus Shamaeel che.. Burhanudin mola ni shaan ma Taher Saifudin aqa farmaavta shamaeel ni maana akhlaq si che (ehna akhlaq malayekat ...

Burhanudin aqa Maluakat shamaeel tha... je amal karta e Khuda ni marzi si karta.. Aap ye apni aakhri saans tak je amal kara che ye Khuda ni khushi mutabik ane Imam ni khushi mutabik hata ema zara pan farak nohto... Dai masoom che... Have em khayal karvo ke aap koi na dabaan ma aavi ne amal karta to e Ghana Ghana Ghana mohta gunaah che...

Khuda Aqa Mola ne ta qayamat baaki raakhe.. Ameen.
That means that Aqa burhanuddin moula(RA) put his mazoon in that rutba for 50 yrs continuously without any interruption ,with khuda ni marzi and khushi and still the Anti -mazoon gang spread their animosity and hatred againts him . What lies they also spread with zahir-batin theory. How big sinners they are.
That also means that all the time these qasre aalis and kotharis have been telling lies that Aqa burhanuddin moula (RA) was under a lot of pressure in keeping SkQ(tus) as mazoon for all these years.
This MS and folks dont even even when they are saying things which are againts their own interests... How can we believe them in the matter of nass.

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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:13 pm

By refusing to say the scripted words in that drama at Raudat Tahera, Syedna Burhanuddin RA indeed proved that je amal karta e Khuda ni marzi si karta.. Aap ye apni aakhri saans tak je amal kara che ye Khuda ni khushi mutabik ane Imam ni khushi mutabik hata ema zara pan farak nohto.

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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:19 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:Aa to mumin ne khush karva ma sawab che to mumenin Dai na dil ne khush karso to e mumenin tame 52 ma Dai ne Ghana khush kida che..
This is another way of extracting money from abdes...... Instead of saying "Allah ke naam pe de de baba" he says "52 me Dai ke naam pe de de baba". :lol: :lol:

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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:22 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:Mumin na dil ne khush kare to jivare aa guzri jaye che tivaare ehna 2 farishta Khuda ni hazrat ma haazir thaai ne arz karse ke have hamare raza thaai to taari bandagi taara aasman ma kariye tivaare Khuda farmavse ke na yeh maari ibadat karva wala chhe ane hukum karse farishta tamari qabar na nazdik salwat padse e eni ek rakaat namaz ane Bani Adam ni 70 rakaat karta afzal che..
How can people even digest this ???

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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:28 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:Dubai na mumenin ne to khair na kaam ni aadat padhi gai che... Bawasaab ni Ziyafat vaaram vaar kari che ane sagla karta vadhaare Wajebat ghani ada kare che... thoda varso pehla samjhaavu padhtu hatu have to bas aap likho.....
It means Dubai abdes are already brain washed and that I don't have to waste time on them, they will even jump from the terrace of Burj Khalifa if I tell them to do so !! :lol: :lol:

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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:38 pm

The masterminds giving the signal for shawl ceremony during "nass" at Raudat Tahera:

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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:49 am

Re-posting the image link:
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by haqniwaat » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:57 am

ghulam muhammed wrote: There are more then 2000 members in the Dai's family so now they will celebrate every members death anniversary and keep the followers busy and extract money for these events..... One more avenue of looting the abdes.

Ghulaam Bhai, there are not more than 2,000 members in qasre aali. The number is less than 400.

haqniwaat
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by haqniwaat » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:03 am

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Fatemidawat.com coordinator from UK and his wife give misaaq to mufaddal bs in Dubai. This is being seen as a big fateh mubeen. But the question remains as to how a coordinator can defect?!
Another reason to wonder why hearts and minds are not being won.

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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by MMH » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:26 am

haqniwaat wrote:
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Fatemidawat.com coordinator from UK and his wife give misaaq to mufaddal bs in Dubai. This is being seen as a big fateh mubeen. But the question remains as to how a coordinator can defect?!
Another reason to wonder why hearts and minds are not being won.

is that correct information HNW? The UK coordinator on the fatemidawat website is still aas below:

United Kingdom, Leicester, UK
Shk. Mohammed bhai Raja T: +44 7947 905673


You would know better.

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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:40 am

haqniwaat wrote:
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Fatemidawat.com coordinator from UK and his wife give misaaq to mufaddal bs in Dubai. This is being seen as a big fateh mubeen. But the question remains as to how a coordinator can defect?!
Another reason to wonder why hearts and minds are not being won.
His daughter is (was?) married to son of SKQ so that could be a factor?

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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by haqniwaat » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:08 am

That could be a factor for what?!
Yes, MMH, he's the one!

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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by haqniwaat » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:10 am

Good lord, how can we convince others if a coordinator himself defects?!

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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:13 am

haqniwaat - factor in the sense that maybe he felt pressured to side with SKQ because of his daughter? And now the pressure is from other side? As you wrote in other posts, it all seems murky to us outsiders as we are not privy to all that is going on internally in the family. I mean it's not like these are completely unrelated people fighting over it - these are people that are related not only by blood but even via inter-marriage. And as is always the case it's the innocent people that suffer.

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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by haqniwaat » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:20 am

I understand, but now what reply do I give to Adam?! You've seen me on this board day in and day out trying to convey the truth and Raja has voided everything in one swath! This leads me to believe even more that God himself does not want the majority to receive salvation, just like he cursed the people of Noah, even his own son, and drowned the majority into the sea!

Dumbledore
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by Dumbledore » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:11 am

Al Zulfiqar bhai kaha ho....long time no see


Kuch avtaar lo aur wapak prakat ho jao...we all need you...what signals "deep throat" is giving...

Bahut din hue kuch entertaining nahi hua bhai...

Hum adna mumin logo ki iltija sun lo...Gulam Mohammed bhai ka jack bhi lagwa dengey aap bologey to...


GM bhai in reading please PM AZ bhai...aap ki baat nahi talengey