Bohra SMS Duniya

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Aymelek
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

#1951

Unread post by Aymelek » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:23 am

For the common bohras there was a diktat that they cant even accept taaziyat in masjid if they are not wearing full uniform (i.e. Saya, kurta, ijaar & topi).

I guess rules are different for masses and VIP's.

bohrabhai
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

#1952

Unread post by bohrabhai » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:04 am

Ana ma jo apna walao che a sab indore saifee coloni na che aur a logo sab dukaan se mob chori kare che ap logo gour se dekh jo takiya na upr mob rakho che aur a ladieso badi safai se mob uthawe che
Ujjain ni shop che
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r8k3n7nkjq1ez ... 1.mp4?dl=0

Bohras working as gang and stealing . Look at this video woman carefully steals mobile lying on pillow.

SBM
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by SBM » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:19 am

bohrabhai wrote:Ana ma jo apna walao che a sab indore saifee coloni na che aur a logo sab dukaan se mob chori kare che ap logo gour se dekh jo takiya na upr mob rakho che aur a ladieso badi safai se mob uthawe che
Ujjain ni shop che
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r8k3n7nkjq1ez ... 1.mp4?dl=0

Bohras working as gang and stealing . Look at this video woman carefully steals mobile lying on pillow.
Did anyone informed the shopkeeper and why this video is not provided to law enforcement authorities to apprehend these people, they may be doing it other merchants too.
Keeping silence on crime makes them co-conspirators.

humanbeing
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

#1954

Unread post by humanbeing » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:24 am

I think the video must be out to cops, if it is under circulation on internet. Unfortunate to see people misusing the bohra identity for such nefarious acts. This people could be bohra or outsiders.

truth seeker100
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Whatsapp Group

#1955

Unread post by truth seeker100 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:46 pm

I have this idea. we should create a dawoodi bohra forum whatsapp group, for us intelligent people, where abdes like Zinger, Adam etc.. are not allowed
what do you guys think?

MMH
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Re: Whatsapp Group

#1956

Unread post by MMH » Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:33 pm

truth seeker100 wrote:I have this idea. we should create a dawoodi bohra forum whatsapp group, for us intelligent people, where abdes like Zinger, Adam etc.. are not allowed
what do you guys think?
you want to reveal your phone no. N identity? Why call yourself truthseeker110...give out your real name.

truth seeker100
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Re: Whatsapp Group

#1957

Unread post by truth seeker100 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:40 pm

yes reveal our phone numbers to only people that are not abdes like zinger and adam

fustrate_Bohra
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Re: Whatsapp Group

#1958

Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:54 pm

truth seeker100 wrote:yes reveal our phone numbers to only people that are not abdes like zinger and adam
dear ts, how will u identify whether the other person is like minded or abde? You cannot just purely rely on the post and conclude their intention. They can be an abde in disguise.

true_bohra
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Re: Whatsapp Group

#1959

Unread post by true_bohra » Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:45 am

truth seeker100 wrote:I have this idea. we should create a dawoodi bohra forum whatsapp group, for us intelligent people, where abdes like Zinger, Adam etc.. are not allowed
what do you guys think?
truth seeker..seek some intelligence first :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

fustrate_Bohra
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

#1960

Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:51 am

KM1 wrote:In all community you will find black sheep

and in our community the biggest is KQ this are all small ones only doing for survival or bad habbit
Survival : Survival? What MS is doing?
Bad Habbit : Like Master Like Follower. :)

SBM
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Re: Whatsapp Group

#1961

Unread post by SBM » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:39 am

true_bohra wrote:
truth seeker100 wrote:I have this idea. we should create a dawoodi bohra forum whatsapp group, for us intelligent people, where abdes like Zinger, Adam etc.. are not allowed
what do you guys think?
truth seeker..seek some intelligence first :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Yes Please go to SMS and ask an intelligent leader to impart intelligent information :evil: :mrgreen:

chocoman
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Re: Whatsapp Group

#1962

Unread post by chocoman » Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:10 am

Sounds very far fetched!!! but if it happens I'm in!!

truth seeker100
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Re: Whatsapp Group

#1963

Unread post by truth seeker100 » Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:14 pm

true_bohra wrote:
truth seeker100 wrote:I have this idea. we should create a dawoodi bohra forum whatsapp group, for us intelligent people, where abdes like Zinger, Adam etc.. are not allowed
what do you guys think?
truth seeker..seek some intelligence first :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
I did that's why I have rejected muffu. you clearly need to seek intelligence, because surely no sane person can follow a dictator fraud like muffu

zinger
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

#1964

Unread post by zinger » Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:01 am

SBM wrote:
fiate2000 wrote:Saifuddin khanbhai owner of 'African heritage' popularly known as 'Seifu Uppo' daughter's wedding, in Arusha, Tanzania.


White wedding? Wows? what else? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Do post pics
Again it proves nothing, This does not prove that Kothar sanctioned this. If people do something outside, we can not blame everything on them.
To me these are irrelevant pictures, No reason to malign anyone.

Wow SBM bhai you are singing my tune now.

Join the club Bro, good to see that you accept some things we say atleast

zinger
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

#1965

Unread post by zinger » Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:12 am

Al Zulfiqar wrote:
Moiz_Dhaanu wrote: Bro Zinger
I am unable to understand that on one hand you keep stating that the Nuss was done and on the other you agree that it is debatable about the conditions on which it was done..I am perplexed by your flippant understanding.
Brother Moiz_Dhannu,

since you are still very new on this forum, you have not yet understood zinger. those of us who have been around here since years know that he is a confirmed hypocrite to his very core. he speaks from both corners of his mouth with a forked tongue. his policy is to hunt with the wolves and sleep with the lambs and if you catch him out he will get personal and abusive, flinging lame threats of getting even, with foul language.

finally he will act flippant and claim basically in words such as - since this is a forum where everyone comes with an assumed name, i can very well say any damn thing and get away with it.

he is a great 'lover' of the dai when it is convenient but when wanting to appear all grown-up and smart in the company of reformists, he will sing their tune. it is best to ignore him, he is an intellectual featherweight and should be handled with an occasional sound kick on his oft-raised backside when he gets too ahead of his own stupid game.

Moiz bhai, you are welcome to listen and form opinions from writings of other members, but i would also suggest you do a search of posts by name and doodh ka doodh and paani ka paani will happen.

yes, i agree that Nuss has been made, but no, i cannot bring myself to accept it. this is what i have been saying time and time again. sounds oxymoronical? im sure it does, i like many others, am caught between the proverbial rock and hard place

as for your analogy about the will, you are damn right, i am currently in the exact same position you described, but since this is a matter relating to faith and not money, i have no option as of now, but to keep quiet.

let it be known, i have given misaq to Mufaddal Maula 6 months ago, but that does not make him infallible in my eyes

as for the rest of al zulfiqars post, you are welcome to draw your own conclusions.

zinger
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

#1966

Unread post by zinger » Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:17 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:Forwarded as received :-

See the hypocrisy of Kothar and Saifee Mahal bhaisaabs...

No objection was taken at Gulam Vahanvati's sadakallah when his maasi stood out for taaziyat at Badri Mahal Masjid in saree with sleeve less blouse where even ben sahebas from Qasre Ali gave her taaziyat.

No objection was taken when Anil Ambani gave 'Kandha' to GV's janaza but Saifuddin Kopti and his son Hussain were prevented to go down the Qabr of their own father and grandfather (who gave his life for Dawat and Badri Mahal Masjid) by Shk Imtiaz (Murtuza) Khairulla (a paaltu dog of Qasre Ali) on the orders from Qasre Ali.

This reminds of famous lines on Yazid's "Order" ...... "Kaafir talak piye toh manaai na kijiye, ek Fatema ke laal ko paani na dijiye".

Such hypocrisy when money power and status comes into play.

They call us commoners "Abdes" and we will remain their slaves till we change our mindset. The choice is yours.
who is Saifuddin Kopti and his son Hussain? i mean obviously the message says who they are but im wondering if they are open reformists? or are they openly aligned to ex-Mazun Maulas camp? or have they had a fall-out with the kothar?

zinger
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Re: Whatsapp Group

#1967

Unread post by zinger » Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:23 am

truth seeker100 wrote:yes reveal our phone numbers to only people that are not abdes like zinger and adam

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

by all means, go ahead. whatever makes you happy :lol:

haqniwaat
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

#1968

Unread post by haqniwaat » Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:49 pm

anajmi wrote:
Isis a Sunni extremist group relying on core Wahhabi ideology ,
Fortunately, the father's of Wahhabi ideology, in Saudi, have rejected Isis as an Islamic organization and denounced their actions as unIslamic. On this board, even I am a wahhabi. Most people who say with certainty that people are following so and so ideology are pretty much ignorant about the ideology in the first place.
Wahabbis are the sworn enemies of Shia. So why are you on this board when all you people want is our blood?!

Al Zulfiqar
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

#1969

Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:02 pm

what a pleasure to be provided the opportunity to record my comments below each point as under:
zinger wrote:
Moiz bhai, you are welcome to listen and form opinions from writings of other members, but i would also suggest you do a search of posts by name and doodh ka doodh and paani ka paani will happen.

moizbhai, what zinger is suggesting is that when you do a search as recommended for my posts, a mojiza will happen and most miraculously, water and milk will separate. now either that mojiza can be attributed to the ex mola or to me. the choice is yours based on your aqeedo.

yes, i agree that Nuss has been made, but no, i cannot bring myself to accept it. this is what i have been saying time and time again. sounds oxymoronical? im sure it does, i like many others, am caught between the proverbial rock and hard place.

nuss has been made, but is unacceptable to zinger. by any logic, that makes the nuss invalid. definitely O'moronical! zinger has the uncanny penchant of always being caught with his pants down and that too between a rock and a hard place! seems that scylla and charibdys are his permanent bed fellows..

as for your analogy about the will, you are damn right, i am currently in the exact same position you described, but since this is a matter relating to faith and not money, i have no option as of now, but to keep quiet.

without resorting to long-winded gobble degook as is zinger's wont, he is a coward. plain and simple.

let it be known, i have given misaq to Mufaddal Maula 6 months ago, but that does not make him infallible in my eyes

zinger's denial of infallibility after giving misaq, wherein his slavery is spelt out in black and white to mufaddal is the ultimate insult to his lord and master. zinger even if you were to give misaq to baba ramdev, it would not make him invincible or infallible.

as for the rest of al zulfiqars post, you are welcome to draw your own conclusions.

oh, you are so gracious and kind to be so accommodating and understanding. i am sure bhai moiz will now exercise his intellect to draw his own conclusions.

summer123
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by summer123 » Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:29 am

What's app msg
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dawedaar
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

#1971

Unread post by dawedaar » Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:54 pm



Truth-Prevails
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

#1973

Unread post by Truth-Prevails » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:46 pm

Should we start a petition on Change.org also to support independent voices like mumineens.com and media like Mumbai Mirror and Hindustan Times who have supported the voice of people.

We have to combat this "tea party" faction in the community who is trying to hijack the sentiments of the community and not allowing for any voice of dissatisfaction.

WiththenameofAllah
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Re: Whatsapp Group

#1974

Unread post by WiththenameofAllah » Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:28 am

SBM wrote:
true_bohra wrote: truth seeker..seek some intelligence first :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Yes Please go to SMS and ask an intelligent leader to impart intelligent information :evil: :mrgreen:
Nice topic started ! I already have an issue regarding this . I am a bohra only for the name and my family. It is getting difficult for me to hide my feelings and intentions from people ! Most people judge from ym action how i feel about the community. Can i get some help in these regards?

qutub_mamajiwala
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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:47 am

funny interview but true
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haqniwaat
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Re: Whatsapp Group

#1976

Unread post by haqniwaat » Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:49 am

Nice topic started ! I already have an issue regarding this . I am a bohra only for the name and my family. It is getting difficult for me to hide my feelings and intentions from people ! Most people judge from ym action how i feel about the community. Can i get some help in these regards?
You are welcome to pm me anytime.

WiththenameofAllah
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Re: Whatsapp Group

#1977

Unread post by WiththenameofAllah » Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:21 am

haqniwaat wrote:
Nice topic started ! I already have an issue regarding this . I am a bohra only for the name and my family. It is getting difficult for me to hide my feelings and intentions from people ! Most people judge from ym action how i feel about the community. Can i get some help in these regards?
You are welcome to pm me anytime.
Why should i pm you? I am against most of the actions of the community.

haqniwaat
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Re: Whatsapp Group

#1978

Unread post by haqniwaat » Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:07 pm

WiththenameofAllah wrote:
haqniwaat wrote: You are welcome to pm me anytime.
Why should i pm you? I am against most of the actions of the community.
The actions of the community are not what the faith teaches. There have been many times in history when the community has been swayed by those who are the true enemies of dawat and lead the faithful astray. This era is one of those times. Don't go with the waves of the community; learn about your faith and you will realize that almost the entire community has gone astray.

Moiz_Dhaanu
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Re: Whatsapp Group

#1979

Unread post by Moiz_Dhaanu » Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:43 pm

WiththenameofAllah wrote: Nice topic started ! I already have an issue regarding this . I am a bohra only for the name and my family. It is getting difficult for me to hide my feelings and intentions from people ! Most people judge from ym action how i feel about the community. Can i get some help in these regards?
Bro WNOA..do not blame our faith and our religion for the mess which Shz MS and Shz QJ has put the whole community in. If you truly are searching for the path of salvation which Rasullalah (sw) and moulana Ali intended us to know and follow ,then you should atleast give a thoughtful ear to what SKQ has to say.

WiththenameofAllah
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Re: Whatsapp Group

#1980

Unread post by WiththenameofAllah » Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:41 am

Moiz_Dhaanu wrote:
WiththenameofAllah wrote: Nice topic started ! I already have an issue regarding this . I am a bohra only for the name and my family. It is getting difficult for me to hide my feelings and intentions from people ! Most people judge from ym action how i feel about the community. Can i get some help in these regards?
Bro WNOA..do not blame our faith and our religion for the mess which Shz MS and Shz QJ has put the whole community in. If you truly are searching for the path of salvation which Rasullalah (sw) and moulana Ali intended us to know and follow ,then you should atleast give a thoughtful ear to what SKQ has to say.
I am a sister .i do not blame faiths of individual and neither i am blaming Islam. I follow rules of islam Alhamdulillah. I question the teachings and actions of our community only.
Though my basic concern was very different from what you people have replied.