Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

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fearAllah
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#31

Unread post by fearAllah » Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:42 am

fearAllah wrote:
level_headed wrote:Tamney su laagey valgey chhe - nass public ma thayee ke nahin. Aa Burhanuddin Maula ne to khulley aam nass thayee hathi ne. Tame kaya Burhanuddin Maula ne maana chhe. Every step of the way tamey logo ye mukhalifat kidhi chhe.
If Nass was done on baby muffy then what is the role of maazun saheb in the daawat?

If Muffy was supposed to be the 53rd Dai then he would have been in the Maazun post all these years....

If you want to know the history and role of Maazun in the dawat go and approach your fellow pagans Adam or Proggy, they will give you the insight otherwise just to give u a little hint, burhanuddin was the maazun during Taher Saifuddin era, then he became dai after his death...

So according to the above theory....who is the 53rd Dai?

Bohra spring
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#32

Unread post by Bohra spring » Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:51 am

Mazzoom of the 52nd was to please STS other son from the other wife so they don't fight

But now SMB has only one lineage so he should get lost so Muffy can appoint his own son.

Qutbi is spent horse worth probably only worth a sausage
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level_headed
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#33

Unread post by level_headed » Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:59 am

fearallah - You know rat's arse about Daawat History.
Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin TUS was the mazun during Syedna Taher Saifuddin's (51st dai) reign.
During Syedna Abdullah Badruddin's (50th dai) reign was Syedna Taher Saifuddin the mazoon. The answer is no. The mazoon was Syedi Dawoodbhaisaheb Shehabuddin

surti
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#34

Unread post by surti » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:19 am


proggressive na 51 ne maana,
proggressive na 52 ne maana,
have jivare mansoos par nass thai
to andha si thai gaya kaana.

mnoorani
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#35

Unread post by mnoorani » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:29 am

surti wrote:proggressive na 51 ne maana,
proggressive na 52 ne maana,
have jivare mansoos par nass thai
to andha si thai gaya kaana.
51 ne to Ilah Al Ardh Kiida
Pota ni bhabi se nikah kiidha
52 Ne to Haqiqi Kaaba Kiida
AAj jhuki gardan Zinda Murda baitha
Achamba ni waat che em Noorani
53 ne Imam kem nathi kiida

surti
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#36

Unread post by surti » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:38 am

mnoorani wrote:
surti wrote:proggressive na 51 ne maana,
proggressive na 52 ne maana,
have jivare mansoos par nass thai
to andha si thai gaya kaana.
51 ne to Ilah Al Ardh Kiida
Pota ni bhabi se nikah kiidha
52 Ne to Haqiqi Kaaba Kiida
AAj jhuki gardan Zinda Murda baitha
Achamba ni waat che em Noorani
53 ne Imam kem nathi kiida

itlu zeherilu likhwa na baad
khuda ye tamne hamna halaaq na kida?
ha . . jem yazid ne foran halaaq na kida
em tamne bhi foran halaaq na kida

zinger
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#37

Unread post by zinger » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:47 am

mnoorani wrote:
surti wrote:proggressive na 51 ne maana,
proggressive na 52 ne maana,
have jivare mansoos par nass thai
to andha si thai gaya kaana.
51 ne to Ilah Al Ardh Kiida
Pota ni bhabi se nikah kiidha
52 Ne to Haqiqi Kaaba Kiida
AAj jhuki gardan Zinda Murda baitha
Achamba ni waat che em Noorani
53 ne Imam kem nathi kiida

Kyu bhai Noorani saab, hamare saamne khade nahi ho sakte ho toh hamare bichaare, masuum, budhe Dai, Burhanuddin Maula pe hamla karte ho.

Bahut sahi janaab. Bahut sahi. Lage rahiye

mnoorani
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#38

Unread post by mnoorani » Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:19 am

zinger wrote:
mnoorani wrote: 51 ne to Ilah Al Ardh Kiida
Pota ni bhabi se nikah kiidha
52 Ne to Haqiqi Kaaba Kiida
AAj jhuki gardan Zinda Murda baitha
Achamba ni waat che em Noorani
53 ne Imam kem nathi kiida

Kyu bhai Noorani saab, hamare saamne khade nahi ho sakte ho toh hamare bichaare, masuum, budhe Dai, Burhanuddin Maula pe hamla karte ho.

Bahut sahi janaab. Bahut sahi. Lage rahiye
Zinger Janaab Saahab,
Ismaili kitaabon se zaahir hai ke Dai Masoom nahin hai. Masoom Galti nahi karte. Lekin Dai ne Galti ki aur TV pe maafi bhi maangi. Video is site pe mojuud hai. Jaisie aap ko taras aata hai, Dai ki zaeefi pe, Waise hi taras ham sab ko aati hai. Kaash yeh baat unke apne bete samajh paaaien. Is umar me aisi hallat mein unko palkhi pe parade kia jaata hai ! Itni be izzati shayad kabhi kisis dai ki nahi hui jaisi inki hoti hai. Kya ek bimaar ,zaif ,ilmi zaief ko is tarha treat kiya jaata hai ?

zinger
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#39

Unread post by zinger » Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:33 am

Noorani saab, hum jitne khush hote hain hamare Dai ko dekh kar, itna hi mere dil bhi rota hain to see him in this condition.

I agree that he should be allowed to rest, but kya kare... hum mumineen hi unko dekhne ke liye itna taraste hain... what to do noorani saab, we are equally guilty.

surti
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#40

Unread post by surti » Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:13 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvzlNi8EFg

modi ne kaha mere maula se
ab to "bhraman band karo "
maula ne kaha modi se
nahi mai to allah ka ka kaam karu
khuda ki kasam
ye dai mutlaq masoom hai
mumin ke khaatir
maafi maangi maaloom hai
lekin laanat to ab bhi padhte hai
m noorani . . jo aise video upload karte hai

Humsafar
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#41

Unread post by Humsafar » Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:31 am

zinger wrote:... hum mumineen hi unko dekhne ke liye itna taraste hain...
Rabid idol worshipper...

mnoorani
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#42

Unread post by mnoorani » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:17 am

surti wrote:
mnoorani wrote: 51 ne to Ilah Al Ardh Kiida
Pota ni bhabi se nikah kiidha
52 Ne to Haqiqi Kaaba Kiida
AAj jhuki gardan Zinda Murda baitha
Achamba ni waat che em Noorani
53 ne Imam kem nathi kiida

itlu zeherilu likhwa na baad
khuda ye tamne hamna halaaq na kida?
ha . . jem yazid ne foran halaaq na kida
em tamne bhi foran halaaq na kida

Jhuki Gardan aaje kou ni che ?
Maut thi khaufnaak aa jeevan konu che ?
Namaaz thi laachaar aa Dai che ?
Modi no hamdard Su aa Masoom Che ?

seeker110
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#43

Unread post by seeker110 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:10 pm

"mei tuo mam Hussain no ghulam choun, Mei tuo Imam no dai chuon. Mei Abbas-e allamdar no gulam choun. Dai ghanee mushkion ma rahya. A saffar ghulami ma puri kidhi. Jan kulhari uparwi joite thee moula e bandook upari. Jahan par madad lazim hatu wahan par hathni safae dekhri. Ea momimnou ni jamat tara muo par Imam ni chamatt.

surti
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#44

Unread post by surti » Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:09 pm

jhuki gardan eni ibadat ma che!
maut si khufnaak jeevan mnoorani nu che!
namaaz ni zeenat daai si che!
ghana modi oo maasoom na hamdard che!
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surti
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#45

Unread post by surti » Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:13 pm

seeker110 wrote:"mei tuo mam Hussain no ghulam choun, Mei tuo Imam no dai chuon. Mei Abbas-e allamdar no gulam choun. Dai ghanee mushkion ma rahya. A saffar ghulami ma puri kidhi. Jan kulhari uparwi joite thee moula e bandook upari. Jahan par madad lazim hatu wahan par hathni safae dekhri. Ea momimnou ni jamat tara muo par Imam ni chamatt.
su lakhe che seeker ?
ene natthi fikar
qayamat na din proggis ni laagse vaat
khaase aag ni chamaat!!!!!!!!

seeker110
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#46

Unread post by seeker110 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:22 pm

Mr. Asmani Inspector" have no material to declare, but that rehmat no tokrow ei Khuda no ehsan chei. Mehnat mari pahchan chei. Baki panjatan ni shan chei. Ane kothar baiman chei.

surti
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#47

Unread post by surti » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:11 pm

seeker110 wrote:Mr. Asmani Inspector" have no material to declare, but that rehmat no tokrow ei Khuda no ehsan chei. Mehnat mari pahchan chei. Baki panjatan ni shan chei. Ane kothar baiman chei.
seeker doesnt know to rhyme
just wasting his time
what aasmani inspector n tokrow? :lol:
tu chokri che ke chokrow?

zinger
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#48

Unread post by zinger » Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:11 am

Humsafar wrote:
zinger wrote:... hum mumineen hi unko dekhne ke liye itna taraste hain...
Rabid idol worshipper...

Humsafar saab,

Hamari yeh baat samajhne ke liye dil chahiye, aur dil mein pyaar chahiye hamara Dai ke liye.

You have a heart, but no love in that heart for the Dai so aake liye, angoor khatte hain.

Good day.

Humsafar
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#49

Unread post by Humsafar » Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:39 am

Hamari yeh baat samajhne ke liye dil chahiye, aur dil mein pyaar chahiye hamara Dai ke liye.
Wow, is that from a Hindi film or something? Dil mein pyaar for Dai is not a requirement of faith or doctrine. But still you have it because your dil and dimaag have been indoctrinated. Even so, you pyaar is selfish because it shows no care or compassion for the object of your love. Of course, the Dai deserves respect and reverence, and even love if you insist, but what you abdes have done is made him into a deity - the object of your love has become the object of worship, and in your spiritual ignorance and confusion you don't know which is which.

zinger
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#50

Unread post by zinger » Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:27 am

Humsafar wrote:
Hamari yeh baat samajhne ke liye dil chahiye, aur dil mein pyaar chahiye hamara Dai ke liye.
Wow, is that from a Hindi film or something? Dil mein pyaar for Dai is not a requirement of faith or doctrine. But still you have it because your dil and dimaag have been indoctrinated. Even so, you pyaar is selfish because it shows no care or compassion for the object of your love. Of course, the Dai deserves respect and reverence, and even love if you insist, but what you abdes have done is made him into a deity - the object of your love has become the object of worship, and in your spiritual ignorance and confusion you don't know which is which.

Aap jo samajhna chahate hain, aap samajhiye.

We have already told you that we also feel sad to see our Dai being taken around like this, when he should be resting, but it is because we demand of His presense that he is taken around, so in a way, we are equally to blame as much as His family.

Dai ke liye dil mein pyaar is not a requirement of faith. You could have faith in Him but no love, or vica versa too. But then again, maine toh yeh baat nahin ki. Yeh baat aapne apni zubaan se ki hain.

mnoorani
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#51

Unread post by mnoorani » Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:28 am

surti wrote:
seeker110 wrote:"mei tuo mam Hussain no ghulam choun, Mei tuo Imam no dai chuon. Mei Abbas-e allamdar no gulam choun. Dai ghanee mushkion ma rahya. A saffar ghulami ma puri kidhi. Jan kulhari uparwi joite thee moula e bandook upari. Jahan par madad lazim hatu wahan par hathni safae dekhri. Ea momimnou ni jamat tara muo par Imam ni chamatt.
su lakhe che seeker ?
ene natthi fikar
qayamat na din proggis ni laagse vaat
khaase aag ni chamaat!!!!!!!!
Qayamat to qayamat che
hamna to badhu zaahir che
Dai nathi hosh ma
mansoos nathi josh ma

Momin Mukhlis
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#52

Unread post by Momin Mukhlis » Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:32 am

mnoorani wrote:
level_headed wrote:Tamney su laagey valgey chhe - nass public ma thayee ke nahin. Aa Burhanuddin Maula ne to khulley aam nass thayee hathi ne. Tame kaya Burhanuddin Maula ne maana chhe. Every step of the way tamey logo ye mukhalifat kidhi chhe.
Agar nass public ma thai che toh,video dikhawo. Sayedna to hosh ma bhi nahin hota aap ni bimari karan.
Aye Ahmak na pilla mnoorani
Tamari harkat che Shaitani
Maara Aqa to che Roohani
Tamari neeyat ma che Be-imani

mnoorani
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#53

Unread post by mnoorani » Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:32 am

Momin Mukhlis wrote:
mnoorani wrote: Agar nass public ma thai che toh,video dikhawo. Sayedna to hosh ma bhi nahin hota aap ni bimari karan.
Aye Ahmak na pilla mnoorani
Tamari harkat che Shaitani
Maara Aqa to che Roohani
Tamari neeyat ma che Be-imani
Shaitaani Harkat to badhaa ne maloom
Safed libaas ma kitna maloon
Daruwala nathi Roohani
Aa waat to hamein jaani

surti
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#54

Unread post by surti » Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:41 pm

mnoorani wrote:
surti wrote: su lakhe che seeker ?
ene natthi fikar
qayamat na din proggis ni laagse vaat
khaase aag ni chamaat!!!!!!!!
Qayamat to qayamat che
hamna to badhu zaahir che
Dai nathi hosh ma
mansoos nathi josh ma

noorani tu nathi hosh ma
dai to che hosh ma
lakhe che josh ma ke'
mansoos nathi josh ma
sudrija jaldi nahi to
bus aag che taari rooh ane ghosht ma
jivaari tu jaase kabar ni aaghaosh ma

Al Zulfiqar
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#55

Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:01 pm

surti khayali khichdi banave chhe
surti undhiyu pakaave chhe.
nathi eni vaaton maa daad
na to ena jaman ma swaad.
mumbai ma hullad thai chhe
surat ma chhathi khulli rakhe chhe.
josho farosh thi ghano chillai chhe
baad abde na jem dai ne sujood kare chhe.
le chhe allah nu naam
ane kare che kufr dai na naam!

pheonix
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#56

Unread post by pheonix » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:27 am

awo awo awo
joker awo awo awo
jokery muki ne
philosopher banwa aawo

surti
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

#57

Unread post by surti » Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:40 pm

Al Zulfiqar wrote:surti khayali khichdi banave chhe
surti undhiyu pakaave chhe.
nathi eni vaaton maa daad
na to ena jaman ma swaad.
mumbai ma hullad thai chhe
surat ma chhathi khulli rakhe chhe.
josho farosh thi ghano chillai chhe
baad abde na jem dai ne sujood kare chhe.
le chhe allah nu naam
ane kare che kufr dai na naam!
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surti sirf fmb ni khichri khaai che
ha surti undhiyu pakaave che
ema ghanoj swaad che
surti ni chaati nai shino che
zulfikaar na pet ma kino che
surti sujood aape che
zulfiqar kevo jale che ?
jem iblis jahannam ma jale che
daai si che duniya ma allah nu naam
zulfiqar si che duniya ma iblis nu naam

Al Zulfiqar
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:46 pm

surti wrote:
surti sujood aape che
zulfiqar kevo jale che ?
thats got to be the biggest joke of the millenium! surti undhiyu believes that the world is envious of his slavery to the dai!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

surti
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

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Unread post by surti » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:10 pm

Al Zulfiqar wrote:
surti wrote:
surti sujood aape che
zulfiqar kevo jale che ?
thats got to be the biggest joke of the millenium! surti undhiyu believes that the world is envious of his slavery to the dai!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
world is not envious of surti s slavery to the dai!!!!
but zulfiqar is
he actually is :evil:
but he shows he is :mrgreen:

SBM
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

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Unread post by SBM » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:41 pm

Surti
zulfiqar si che duniya ma iblis nu naam
Surti
Do you know that Imam Ali is also known by Zulfiqar and now you are calling this beautiful name as Iblis nu Naam, Surti shame on you.
think before you write :oops: or may be you are so brainwashed that except for 51-52 and now Mansoos you have no basic idea of Dawoodi Bohra faith
MAY BE ADAM AND PROGTICIDE OR ZINGER SHOULD BE TEACHING YOU GUYS ABOUT THESE BASIC FACTS