Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

[shabbir4u]

Surti
zulfiqar si che duniya ma iblis nu naam

Surti
Do you know that Imam Ali is also known by Zulfiqar and now you are calling this beautiful name as Iblis nu Naam, Surti shame on you.
think before you write or may be you are so brainwashed that except for 51-52 and now Mansoos you have no basic idea of Dawoodi Bohra faith
MAY BE ADAM AND PROGTICIDE OR ZINGER SHOULD BE TEACHING YOU GUYS ABOUT THESE BASIC FACTS

I THINK ZULFIQAR SHOULD CHANGE HIS NAME HE IS NOT WORTH OF THIS NAME !!! HOW IS THAT. !!!

[surti]

Surti
zulfiqar si che duniya ma iblis nu naam

Surti
Do you know that Imam Ali is also known by Zulfiqar and now you are calling this beautiful name as Iblis nu Naam, Surti shame on you.
think before you write or may be you are so brainwashed that except for 51-52 and now Mansoos you have no basic idea of Dawoodi Bohra faith
MAY BE ADAM AND PROGTICIDE OR ZINGER SHOULD BE TEACHING YOU GUYS ABOUT THESE BASIC FACTS

sbm is after the name game
ofcourse zulfikar is maula ali s swords name
beautiful name and powerful fame
but ur alzulfiqar is a shame
like his brothers progticide zinger or adam
all proggys are same
shame shame shame.

[bohra_manus]

Surti
Do you know that Imam Ali is also known by Zulfiqar and now you are calling this beautiful name as Iblis nu Naam, Surti shame on you.
think before you write or may be you are so brainwashed that except for 51-52 and now Mansoos you have no basic idea of Dawoodi Bohra faith
MAY BE ADAM AND PROGTICIDE OR ZINGER SHOULD BE TEACHING YOU GUYS ABOUT THESE BASIC FACTS

sbm is after the name game
ofcourse zulfikar is maula ali s swords name
beautiful name and powerful fame
but ur alzulfiqar is a shame
like his brothers progticide zinger or adam
all proggys are same
shame shame shame.

Brother Surti,
Progticide, zinger, and Adam are not from Progressive side (unless they are closet progressives)

[JC]

Mazun is currently in Toronto selling his own product - Mazuniat. There is rarely mention of Burhanuddin Saab, only Bawajee Saab, there is no mention at all of Mansoos, even Madahs of his daugther Dr. Tahera are read which include 'shaan' of Qutub-ul-Huda or may be read as 'Qutub-ul-Dina (aka Mazun Khozema).

I think Mazum should contact Alvi Dai and enter into some sort of deal so that he does 'Nas' on Mazun, secondly based on Bawajee Saab letter to currrent Dai, he should proclaim himself as 53rd Dai. He should immediately appoint Alvi Mansoos as his Mazun. This will give him tremendous boost and will have viable chance of running 'Real Dawat-e-Hadiya'. May be he will have to 'validate' past Alvi Dais as 'Maustoda Dais' or 'Nazim' dais for his Qutbi sect. By doing this he will have control over all the Qubas of past Alvi dais and they will flourish more.

[Bori85]

Mazun is currently in Toronto selling his own product - Mazuniat. There is rarely mention of Burhanuddin Saab, only Bawajee Saab, there is no mention at all of Mansoos, even Madahs of his daugther Dr. Tahera are read which include 'shaan' of Qutub-ul-Huda or may be read as 'Qutub-ul-Dina (aka Mazun Khozema).

I think Mazum should contact Alvi Dai and enter into some sort of deal so that he does 'Nas' on Mazun, secondly based on Bawajee Saab letter to currrent Dai, he should proclaim himself as 53rd Dai. He should immediately appoint Alvi Mansoos as his Mazun. This will give him tremendous boost and will have viable chance of running 'Real Dawat-e-Hadiya'. May be he will have to 'validate' past Alvi Dais as 'Maustoda Dais' or 'Nazim' dais for his Qutbi sect. By doing this he will have control over all the Qubas of past Alvi dais and they will flourish more.

The DB's are not very happy that he has come here, but ofcourse will not say very openly, the main problem is his speech , which is not understandable due to his throat problem, especially in Mississauga markaz, I have heard that people are going very very late for his vahez ( relay from Toronto Masjid) so that they can sit for only half hour of his inaudible bayan and then have niyaz jaman and go home. Well he must not be mentioning Burhanuddin in his bayaan's , but today there is a relay of Burhanuddin's past vahez, so both Masjid and Markaz will be full.

[khudaparast]

[JC]

I cannot really say whether DBs are happy or not but agreed nobody would say anything openly. Last night there was an old repeat telecast of Burhanuddin and surprising Toronto masjid was not that full, people were sitting with ample space, as is there is a big red carpet inside masjid, bigger than normal which occupies quite a space for protocol and shaan reasons. Even at Jaman people sat quite comfortably - so attendance was less than expected I would say. Mazun Saab however was present all the time and left before jaman, his sons and other members of his family were there during jaman serving as one would have expected them to be.

Generally people say Mazun is very knowledgeable but it is his voice and speaking problems which is making it difficult for people to understand. Tonight Jaman is from Mazun Saab (I am not sure if he is really going to 'pay' for this, or cost will be deducted from his 'njawa' or like Dai's jaman it will be from jamat's fund).

There are also announcements for 'Qadambossi' to Mazun Saab, let's see how many take this up, and how many ziyafts are there after Ashura (I would say not very many). People are still unsure how many and how much they will be pushed to do ziyafats.

[askz]

to all in this topic
after reading this forum topic i feel its just that all here are trying to remove their frustrations but reality is much more far fetched than what we are seeing. first of all the whole nass legacy has been spoiled from the 46th daai itself. read history poisoning and sedations have been common are being repeated since then. so all the numbers after 46th are not the real successors. the truth from yemen has become false in the indian gaadi. the lineage itself is wrong just because the dbs are a bunch of fools Kothar are thriving and prospering in their wrong doings. some abdes are writing about modi and ministers but we all know that in india money is like a dog-bone .the moment when it comes to ministers private relief fund he becomes ready to do mujras as per mansoos's wish.
so this news will not be new if mazoon decides to create a dissonance but this is also true that if any new division is there it will be the same as shit's brother is fart only

[Bohra spring]

Qutbi is not a capable alternative dial, he is out to get his inheritance which means he is after the wealth

Somewhere he has his own website and he claims his children are educated in Islamic studies what a waste...what have they really done with the knowledge which they received at our expense and taxes. Nothing when we were being oppressed they stood by and watched.

When udaipur was attacked or bohras humiliated in almost every city by amils and zadas he was more worried about not being kicked out complied went silent and worried his money pipeline drying up. Don't trust him?

We need a dial who is not related to STS

[Bori85]

Qutbi is not a capable alternative dial, he is out to get his inheritance which means he is after the wealth

Somewhere he has his own website and he claims his children are educated in Islamic studies what a waste...what have they really done with the knowledge which they received at our expense and taxes. Nothing when we were being oppressed they stood by and watched.

When udaipur was attacked or bohras humiliated in almost every city by amils and zadas he was more worried about not being kicked out complied went silent and worried his money pipeline drying up. Don't trust him?

We need a dial who is not related to STS

Then who is capable, Mufaddal Maula? or someone from the DB community who is not related to STS, well who will be that someone? even if bohra's revolt (just imagine) against Burhanuddin's nass to Muffy, then who will be the next Dai?

[JC]

The issue is not who is capable and who is not - NOBODY is, they are all corrupt.

It is selecting the lesser evil who can start the process of division and in-fight so that end is sooner than later. Also, this division will bring to light their corrupt practices when they will accuse each other in public. The money will be divided and so will the power - general public will get some relief as it will take some time for new sects to settle down and will have time to 'think'.

[ghulam muhammed]

It is like the Indians asking as to who is better, the BJP or congress ? Both are corrupt, both have instigated riots and both the parties are full of goondas and hardened criminals who face grave charges like murder, rape, extortion etc.

[Bohra spring]

Baisaheba Sakina baisaheba, wife of Syedi Mazoon Saheb tus:
BA in English Literature, Bombay University [first amongst all students in English Literature].

Dr. Bazat Tahera baisab:
Daughter of Syedi Mazoon Saheb tus. Received Phd. in Arabic Literature with distinction from Harvard University (Cambridge, Massachusetts). Received MA and BA in Arabic Language and Literature from Ain Shams University (Cairo, Egypt). Currently professor of Arabic Literature at the University of Chicago (Chicago, Illinois). Previously taught at the University of Utah (Salt Lake City, Utah, 2000-2002), Yale University (New Haven, Connecticut, 1998-1999), and Harvard University (during Ph.d. studies, 1992-1999). Email: btq@post.harvard.edu

Dr. Bazat Saifiyah baisab:
Daughter of Syedi Mazoon Saheb tus. Phd. in Islamic History [with distinction], Oxford University, UK. MA in Islamic History, BA in English Literature [summa cum laude], The American University in Cairo.

Bazat Tyebah baisab:
Daughter of Syedi Mazoon Saheb tus. BA in Islamic History and Arabic Literature [with distinction], SOAS, London University, UK. Due to distinction in BA, accepted directly in the Phd. program at London University. Email: tayyeba@uscnet.com
Taher bhaisab:
Son of Syedi Mazoon Saheb tus. MA in Arabic Literature, SOAS, London University, UK. BA in Arabic Literature [received The Chancellor's Award for coming first amongst 10,000 students in Bombay University]. Currently doing Phd. in Arabic Literature. Email: taher.qutbuddin@uscnet.com

Dr. Abde-Ali bhaisab:
Son of Syedi Mazoon Saheb tus. PhD in Islamic Law and Jurisprudence, University of Manchester, UK. MA in Arabic Literature [with distinction], SOAS, London University, UK. BA in Mass Communications and Journalism, and Arabic Literature, The American University in Cairo. Email: abdeali.qutbuddin@uscnet.com

Fatema baisab:
Daughter of Syedi Mazoon Saheb tus. BA in Psychology, The American University in Cairo. Also, one year in Psychology MA program, Harvard University, USA. Email: fiezzuddin@hotmail.com

Arwa baisab:
Daughter of Syedi Mazoon Saheb tus. Hafize Qur'aan. Specialized courses in Arabic Language and Literature, The American University in Cairo. Email: arwa@uscnet.com

Husain bhaisab:
Son of Syedi Mazoon Saheb tus. Hafize Qur'aan. BSc in Computer Science, with a minor in Arabic Literature and Electronics, with highest honors [summa cum laude], The American University in Cairo. Email: husain.qutbuddin@uscnet.com
Aziz bhaisab:
Son of Syedi Mazoon Saheb tus. Hafize Qur'aan. BA in Arabic Literature, with a minor in Political Science, with highest honors [summa cum laude], The American University in Cairo. Email: aziz.qutbuddin@uscnet.com

Now what have these disappointed Zadas have really done what for the progressives or reformists, nothing

If they learned so much how come they did not save the abdes from such hypnotism !

[asad]

JC,

Can you confirm if their was the relay of Mansoos waez on 9th Moharram and did Mazun attended it.

[Sufi monk]

after reading this thread it is obvious that SKQ was in process of forming his own dawat long back......and we all know this.