hierarchy dilemma

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asad
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Re: hierarchy dilemma

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Unread post by asad » Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:19 am

Adam/Progticide,

we are still waiting for any documented proof of this practice of Mansoos being a higher functionary than Mazoon and Mukasir.



mnoorani
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Re: hierarchy dilemma

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Unread post by mnoorani » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:00 am

asad wrote:Adam/Progticide,

we are still waiting for any documented proof of this practice of Mansoos being a higher functionary than Mazoon and Mukasir.

To Further support the lower position of the Mansoos than the Mzaoon:
The very fact that the Mansoos could flirt only with a simple Air Hostess instead of a full fledged affair with a glamourous Bollywood starlet shows the higher Rutba of the Mazoon. The Mansoos has not graduated to that stae as yet.



progticide
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Re: hierarchy dilemma

#33

Unread post by progticide » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:59 am

badrijanab wrote:
progticide wrote: Thank you for finally endorsing that reformists/progressives are no longer associated with Dawoodi Bohra community and that reformists/progressives have nothing to do with the Dawoodi Bohra Dai-al-Mutlaq and his deputies, Dawoodi Bohra administration, Dawoodi Bohra organisational structure, Dawoodi Bohra doctrines, Dawoodi Bohra culture and traditions and practices. That Progressive Dawoodi Bohra is in no way associated with Dawoodi Bohra community.
All Dawoodi Bohras including Bohra Youth (Progressives) are Dawoodi Bohras but present Kothar is not Dawoodi Bohras by virtue of their 'amaal' (actions).
There is only one DAWOODI BOHRA community under the Headship of Dai-al-Mutlaq Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (TUS), who is the 52nd Dai-al-Mutlaq appointed to this office through an unbroken chain of succession of Dais starting with the First Dai-al-Mutlaq Syedna Zoeb bin Musa, and there is one single administration for managing the affairs of the Dawoodi Bohras under the Headship of the Dai-al-Mutlaq.

Do you accept the above or not?



mnoorani
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Re: hierarchy dilemma

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Unread post by mnoorani » Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:47 am

progticide wrote:
badrijanab wrote: All Dawoodi Bohras including Bohra Youth (Progressives) are Dawoodi Bohras but present Kothar is not Dawoodi Bohras by virtue of their 'amaal' (actions).
There is only one DAWOODI BOHRA community under the Headship of Dai-al-Mutlaq Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (TUS), who is the 52nd Dai-al-Mutlaq appointed to this office through an unbroken chain of succession of Dais starting with the First Dai-al-Mutlaq Syedna Zoeb bin Musa, and there is one single administration for managing the affairs of the Dawoodi Bohras under the Headship of the Dai-al-Mutlaq.

Do you accept the above or not?
@ Progticide :
1 : Breaking down a mosque to create a mazaar , like the case of Raudat Tahera.
2.Removing a lady's corspe and tearing up the shroud before throwing out on the road.
3:Felcitating a mass murderer of Muslims like in the case of Modi.
4: Living in such pomp and show that would invite a terror attack like in Karachi
.
5:Attacking fasting worshippers in mosque during Ramadaan.
6:Delaying imamat namaaz in Ramadaan like the zaada in Mumbai.
7: Flirting with a non mehram airhostess.
8: Uttering such words that would result in death of innocents and damage of property,only to appologise later.
AMONGST other things. Do You Progticide, accept the above as unislamic or not ???