Galiyakot Tour II (Dittiya)

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humanbeing
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Galiyakot Tour II (Dittiya)

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Unread post by humanbeing » Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:50 pm

Muffy Mola is touring galiyakot again, he travelled from surat to galiyakot in a chartered helicopter !

What an irony ! Syedi Fakhruddin would travel on feet or other humble means and spread islam in rural villages. His ardent follower and marketer Muffy Mola takes the aerial route to commemorate the urus.

Badi badi baatein karte hai … Mumino ka dard mehsoos karne ki.. aur rajasthan ke road bardasht nahi hote !! woh bhi comfortable car mein.

Imagine hoards of abde bohras are rushing in stuffed vehicles to galiyakot over terribly potholed and spoilt roads.

Are we going to see a new trend of Helicopter rides all around, taking a road trip for rural abdes is too much of a hassle for Muffy Mola or there is hikmat in such charters ?

Time & Energy saved in Road Travel = Money collection in Ziyafats / Nikahs / Misaaks / Kadam / Talaqqi / Mafsusiyat / Hadiyat / Pre term wajebat / Najwa / Ikram / Nazar Mukam / Salaam

Encouraging Chartered Flights will lead to development of aviation infrastructure in Rural Abde Towns.

Jaago Abde Jaago !



Al Zulfiqar
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Re: Galiyakot Tour II (Dittiya)

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:31 pm

humanbeing,

so whats your problem? as long as there are abde gadhe's willing to fork out lakhs of crores, allowing muffy and gang to walk all over them, that too with iron boots, then obviously muffy and his saafia gang will indulge in ayyashi.

easy come, easy go. duniya jhukti hai, jhukanewala chhahiye! ek ghadha dhoondho, hazaar milte hai... etc . retch, retch...



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Re: Galiyakot Tour II (Dittiya)

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Unread post by khudaparast » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:40 pm

mark my words, this IDIOT is going in HELL in one of this helicopter rides.....Inshallah AMEEN



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Unread post by khudaparast » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:41 pm

even firon ruled for many years, but at last he sinked in gutter with his fellows.same thing will happen with muffddal.



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Re: Galiyakot Tour II (Dittiya)

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Unread post by Fateh » Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:05 am

humanbeing wrote:Muffy Mola is touring galiyakot again, he travelled from surat to galiyakot in a chartered helicopter !

What an irony ! Syedi Fakhruddin would travel on feet or other humble means and spread islam in rural villages. His ardent follower and marketer Muffy Mola takes the aerial route to commemorate the urus.

Badi badi baatein karte hai … Mumino ka dard mehsoos karne ki.. aur rajasthan ke road bardasht nahi hote !! woh bhi comfortable car mein.

Imagine hoards of abde bohras are rushing in stuffed vehicles to galiyakot over terribly potholed and spoilt roads.

Are we going to see a new trend of Helicopter rides all around, taking a road trip for rural abdes is too much of a hassle for Muffy Mola or there is hikmat in such charters ?

Time & Energy saved in Road Travel = Money collection in Ziyafats / Nikahs / Misaaks / Kadam / Talaqqi / Mafsusiyat / Hadiyat / Pre term wajebat / Najwa / Ikram / Nazar Mukam / Salaam

Encouraging Chartered Flights will lead to development of aviation infrastructure in Rural Abde Towns.

Jaago Abde Jaago !
Bhai jagte to wo he jo neend mein hai, mare hue nahi jag sakte, ye to braindead public hai ye nahi jag sakati.



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Re: Galiyakot Tour II (Dittiya)

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Unread post by asad » Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:01 am

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Unread post by like_minded » Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:41 am

khudaparast wrote:even firon ruled for many years, but at last he sinked in gutter with his fellows.same thing will happen with muffddal.
Bro.. nothing of that is going to happen, These guys are experiencing heaven right here right now. They very know there is no heaven or hell after death, this myth is only for idiots who fall at their feet.



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Re: Galiyakot Tour II (Dittiya)

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Unread post by progticide » Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 am

like_minded wrote: They very know there is no heaven or hell after death, this myth is only for idiots who fall at their feet.
Kafir, Kafir, Kafir

By denying the existence of Heaven and Hell, you deny the sanctity of the Holy Quran, the word of Allah, and thereby you deny Allah and His Messenger who brought to you the word of Allah.

You are a Kafir.


Mention of Heaven and Hell in the Holy Quran
Holy Quran [2:214]
Holy Quran [50:30]
and many more....


ADMIN,
I appeal to you to ban this Kafir from this forum who is denying the sanctity of the Holy Quran itself.



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Unread post by like_minded » Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:09 am

It is very easy to provoke an idiot. :mrgreen:

Let me tell you... Heaven and Hell is right here, right now but you will never be able to see or experience it because you already have the fairy tale in your head.



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Re: Galiyakot Tour II (Dittiya)

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Unread post by mnoorani » Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:35 am

" I appeal to you to ban this Kafir from this forum who is denying the sanctity of the Holy Quran itself "...Progticide

Alhamdolillah ,it is good that you beleive in the sanctcity of the Holy Quran. Let us now wait for your paymasters to beleive in the sancticity of a Masjid ,so that they do not order a violent attacck on others and that too with weapons.

Quraan che ek haqiqat.
Kaash Muffy Mola aa samjhi jai.
Ziyafat,helicopter,heera ,moti.
Badhu che ek shaan jhuti.
Qaum na mansoos flirt kare
Aa kevi nasihat hai,hai.



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Re: Galiyakot Tour II (Dittiya)

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Unread post by khudaparast » Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:05 pm

it looks so funny when some abde quotes Quraan and calls other kaffir and munafiq LOL



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Re: Galiyakot Tour II (Dittiya)

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Unread post by explorer » Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:00 am

From Daim al Islam Vol II
- و عن جعفر بن محمد ع أنه حج فبينا هو في الطواف و عليه ثوبان رفيعان إذ جذب رجل بطرف ثوبه فالتفت إليه فإذا هو عباد البصري فقال يا أبا عبد الله تلبس مثل هذه الثياب في مثل هذا الموضع و أنت من علي بالمكان الذي أنت فيه و قد علمت كيف كان لباسه فقال له أبو عبد الله ويحك يا عباد كان علي ع في زمن يستقيم له فيه ما يلبس و لو لبست أنا اليوم مثل لباسه لقال الناس هذا مرء مثل عباد فأفحم عباد و تغامز الناس به من حوله و كان يوصف بالرياء



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Re: Galiyakot Tour II (Dittiya)

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Unread post by anajmi » Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:28 pm

Since Daim was originally written in an ancient and foreign language, not everyone understands it. Whenever you decide to post something in Arabic, please post its English translation as well.



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Re: Galiyakot Tour II (Dittiya)

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Unread post by porus » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:28 pm

explorer wrote:From Daim al Islam Vol II
- و عن جعفر بن محمد ع أنه حج فبينا هو في الطواف و عليه ثوبان رفيعان إذ جذب رجل بطرف ثوبه فالتفت إليه فإذا هو عباد البصري فقال يا أبا عبد الله تلبس مثل هذه الثياب في مثل هذا الموضع و أنت من علي بالمكان الذي أنت فيه و قد علمت كيف كان لباسه فقال له أبو عبد الله ويحك يا عباد كان علي ع في زمن يستقيم له فيه ما يلبس و لو لبست أنا اليوم مثل لباسه لقال الناس هذا مرء مثل عباد فأفحم عباد و تغامز الناس به من حوله و كان يوصف بالرياء
This is one of the more vague paragraphs from Da'im. It says that Imam Jafar al-Sadiq was performing Haj yet he was wearing expensive clothes. How could that be? We have to assume that he was performing tawaaf but not during Haj nor as part of Umrah.

Abbad Basri accosts the Imam and criticizes him for not wearing clothes like Ali. Why did he do that? Would anyone accost someone in the middle of his prayers?

Imam replies that if he wore clothes like Ali, people would say that he (Imam) was like Abbad Basri who, apparently, was reputed to be a hypocrite. Why would people say that if Imam wore simple clothes? And why would Imam respond in the first place during his tawaaf?

So, how did the Imam get expensive robes? Let us assume he got them by his own efforts at earning a living or as gifts.

The question then is how did Mufaddal Mawla earn his money to charter the helicopter? Was it through his own honest effort at earning a living or was it a gift? Would you call Mufaddal Mawla a hypocrite if he traveled using more modest means?

The quote from Da'im raises questions more than it justifies the expense.



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Re: Galiyakot Tour II (Dittiya)

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:08 pm

porus,

thanks as always for taking the effort to translate and elucidate arabic passages.

as for your very interesting query raised in context to the passage quoted from the daim, viz. "Would you call Mufaddal Mawla a hypocrite if he traveled using more modest means?"

he would definitely be termed a hypocrite if he continued making such obscene amounts of money by exploiting the gullible abdes in the name of religious 'sawab', and then tried to whitewash it with an outward show of humility by adopting simpler modes of travel.

but his and his family's arrogance is such that they do not bother to make even an iota of semblance or concession to humility and simplicity. in a curious twist, since he does not indulge in hypocrisy, (obviously enjoying the pomp, glamour and luxuries) and actually flaunts his 'divine' status in the eyes of his slaves, he cannot be termed a hypocrite!



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Unread post by anajmi » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:54 pm

One thing to be noted here is that there is a reason why people choose not to post translations of paragraphs like these. If they post translations, they get caught with their pants down. Of course, they can always claim that translating an ancient and foreign language is not possible and any translation posted as such is erroneous.

There is a saying in the western world, normally quoted by those men and women who choose to show their "ass"ets to the world. If you have it, flaunt it. That is the motto that the Kothari royals live by, I guess. The only difference being, kotharis flaunt that which has been taken from others willingly or unwillingly!!



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Re: Galiyakot Tour II (Dittiya)

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Unread post by khudaparast » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:38 pm

explorer wrote:From Daim al Islam Vol II
- و عن جعفر بن محمد ع أنه حج فبينا هو في الطواف و عليه ثوبان رفيعان إذ جذب رجل بطرف ثوبه فالتفت إليه فإذا هو عباد البصري فقال يا أبا عبد الله تلبس مثل هذه الثياب في مثل هذا الموضع و أنت من علي بالمكان الذي أنت فيه و قد علمت كيف كان لباسه فقال له أبو عبد الله ويحك يا عباد كان علي ع في زمن يستقيم له فيه ما يلبس و لو لبست أنا اليوم مثل لباسه لقال الناس هذا مرء مثل عباد فأفحم عباد و تغامز الناس به من حوله و كان يوصف بالرياء
this is the one thing by heart to all abde, when ever any question is raised about haraam expenses they come up by this idiotic comments....



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Re: Galiyakot Tour II (Dittiya)

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Unread post by khudaparast » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:41 pm

and to be very honest, just think this for once in a life...


Imam zainul abedin(s) and jafar uz sadiq who kept crying for his father whole of his life, would wear soem thing expensive? that too in miqaat of haj or even umrah?

Imam(s) whos eyes would weep blood for his father, would even care about expensive clothes?

I honestly dont think so.....



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Re: Galiyakot Tour II (Dittiya)

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:50 pm

khudaparast wrote: Imam zainul abedin(s) and jafar uz sadiq who kept crying for his father whole of his life, would wear soem thing expensive? that too in miqaat of haj or even umrah?

Imam(s) whos eyes would weep blood for his father, would even care about expensive clothes?

I honestly dont think so.....
When within a span of 40 years Shivaji, who was earlier a mountain rat who killed Afzal Khan with deciet can become a valiant, brave and honest leader then its not surprising that within a span of over 1000 years a rightful, pious, God fearing Imam who lived a life of austerity can adorn expensive clothes and that too on a religious occassion. Dont be surprised if your grandchildren say that Narendra Modi was the most sober, non violent and upright leader who built multiple townships for Muslims all over Gujarat and that he was real messiah for Muslims !!! Your grandchildren may find this "Rivaayat" in some Bohra religious doctrine inorder to justify the 52nd Dai's felicitation in a Masjid.



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Re: Galiyakot Tour II (Dittiya)

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Unread post by humanbeing » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:57 am

Whats happening at this Galiyakot Tour. it is one of the most fertile farms for SMS camp to make hay while sun shines.

What are the going rates for various barakati products ?

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Re: Galiyakot Tour II (Dittiya)

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Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:19 am

I forgot to check the posting date from progiticide and hence i posted above. Anyways its still applicable :)