Milli Gazette article on Bohras

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Re: Milli Gazette article on Bohras

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Unread post by badrijanab » Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:29 pm

Mr. Anjami sahab, aap intellectually dishonest he. This is my last comment on this thread.

Agar kabhi aapki honesty jaage tab meri sare posts ko without any preconceived biased notions padhna to aapko realize ho jayega -

[1] 1/2/3 sirf mulk ke hukumra (king) he, religiously authorized appointed nahi he.
[2] Musalmaan hone ke liye Rasool ki hadees ki jaankari agar aapne Bukhari/Muslim se li to you will end up with corrupted version of Hadees.
[3] Deoband ya koi aur unke jese - agar Mola Ali a.s. ki baat real sense me maante to Imam Hasan a.s. ke qaatil Muawiya ko 'Ameer' ke prefix aur 'rehmat/rizwaan' ke suffix laga kar nahi bulate! Yaani inka Ali a.s. ki selected baate manna unka fareb he. Mola Ali a.s. ko ya unke appointed farzando ko apna religious head nahi maan rahe balki inke qaatilo ko apna religious head maante he!!

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Re: Milli Gazette article on Bohras

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Unread post by anajmi » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:01 pm

Itni jaldi kyon bhaag rahe ho janaab. Abhi to aapne meri adhi baton ka bhi jawab nahin diya hai. Pehle ye to batate jaao, ki Dawoodi Bohra ko oomda makaam kis Imam ne diya hai? Yeh to baat sabit ho gayi ki na Mola Ali Dawoodi Bohra the aur na Imam Hussain Dawoodi Bohra the. To phir aap log kahan se paida hue ye to batate jaao.

Meri hadees ki jaankari Imam Oxford aur Webster se aayi hai aur yeh baat aap hi nein batayi thi ki jo oxford aur Webster jaanta hai wahi sahi Imam hai. Aapka Imam to ghaib hai aur Dai choron kaa sardar hai. Ab aap kya karoge?

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Re: Milli Gazette article on Bohras

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Unread post by progticide » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:23 am

progticide wrote:
S. Insaf wrote: Muslim caliphs (R.A.) and Hazrat Aisha Siddiqah (R.A.)
This shows what is your real hidden agenda under the banner of reforms.....niyat kuch aur, nishaana kuch aur...

Afsos, Teri asli tamannaye aur fitrat kya he iska andaaza tere saath chalnewaalo ko nahi he. :(

Mubarak a.k.a Doctor a.k.a. Badrijanab.....ab Ameen nahi kahoge.....
Mubarak a.k.a Doctor a.k.a. Badrijanab,

Aisi kya berukhi. Zara apne moheeb aur sipahsalaar Insaf ki hosala-afzaai to karte jaayiye taki woh apni aur aisi kuch dabi hui hasraton aur bechein aarzoo ko isi tarah bebaak andaaze bayan se kalamband karte rahe jiska ek namuna humne aapke liye upar parosa hua he.

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Re: Milli Gazette article on Bohras

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:34 pm

badrijanab wrote: "Musalmaan" ka literal meaning he 'follower'. Jo Rasool s.a.w.w. ko follow kare.
Janab badrijanab,

Aapka yeh jumla bahut sahi hai aur yeh jaankar khushi hui ki aap Rasul (s.a.w.) ke "Follower" ko hi Musalmaan maante ho, jo ki zahir si baat hai lekin ek bada sawal..................

Rasul Allah (s.a.w.) ke zaat-e-mubarak ke taalluk se agar ek baal bhar bhi shaq kiya to woh shaks Islam ke daayre se baahar ho jaata hai aur aap jo itni badi badi deenge maarte ho lekin aapka basic foundation hi ret (sand) aur ghaas (fodder) ka hai to imaarat banne se pehle hi gir gayi hai, yeh baat isliye kahi hai ki aap itni deenge maarne ke baad Rasul Allah (s.a.w.) ke "Wisdom" ko hi shaq ki nigah se dekhte ho, aapko unki biwi pasand nahi hai matlab ki aap ke hisab se Rasul Allah (s.a.w.) ne ummul mumineen chunne mein galti ki (Nauzubillah), Aap (s.a.w.) ne apna aakhri waqt jinki godmein (on the lap) bitaya aur aapki ruh jinki godmein aur jinke ghar mein parwaaz hui, woh shaksiyat galat thi (Nauzubillah), Rasul Allah (s.a.w.) ne jin 2 shaks ko unke paas taa qayamat tak sone ka sharaf diya, un shaks ko gaali dete ho, matlab ki itna azeem-us-shaan sharaf bilkul galat logo ko diya (Nauzubillah)................

Ab, kooze mein samundar ko laana............. Aap Rasul Allah (s.a.w.) ke "Wisdom" or "Decision" ko CHALLENGE kar rahe ho jiski wajah se aapka Kalima radd ho gaya hai aur aap Islam ke daayre se baahar ho chuke ho, isliye aap kitni bhi "Pristine" firke ki baat karo lekin yeh sab be-matlab or be-buniyad hai. Pehle sacche dil se Kalima padho, sar ko hazaar baar patak kar Allah (swt) ki baargah mein maafi maango aur Rasul Allah (s.a.w.) ka vaasta do jinke upar aapne ungli uthai hai.

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Re: Milli Gazette article on Bohras

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:41 pm

progticide wrote:S. Insaf wrote: Muslim caliphs (R.A.) and Hazrat Aisha Siddiqah (R.A.)

This shows what is your real hidden agenda under the banner of reforms.....niyat kuch aur, nishaana kuch aur...

Afsos, Teri asli tamannaye aur fitrat kya he iska andaaza tere saath chalnewaalo ko nahi he.
Frog-ki-backside,

S.Insaf showed respect to the Muslim Caliphs (R.A.) (thanks for confirming that you and your herdes of sheep are not muslims) and Hazrat Aisha Siddique (R.A.) because he is a TRUE MUSLIM who doesnt question the WISDOM of Rasul Allah (s.a.w.) whom hypocrites (munafeeq) like you falsely claim to rever.

Kamzarf kafir munafiq (in your own words) like you alongwith your masters address the revered souls as Alisaab, Nabisaab and during mohurrum bayan your masters address them as "Ali na shia", "Hussain ghoda par thi utri gaya", "Fatema ghana roya" etc etc. Where is the respect here ? Why dont you address your masters as "Burhanuddin aavi gaya", "Mufaddal yeh shandar vayez kari", "Amtullah guzri gaya". Here you will first sing qasidas of one whole paragraph like "Huzure aala, TUS, Shafiq bawa, Natik-e-quran, Ilahul ard, Ali Kadr etc etc. before taking their names !!

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Re: Milli Gazette article on Bohras

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Unread post by Adam » Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:47 am

Our respect to Rasulullah SAW is also by respecting his wasi & successor. That also means to show no respect to those who fought a war against him (Ayshah).

S. Insaf and gulam mohammeds post clearly reflect that they both are neither
Bohra nor
Ismaili not even
Shias.


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Re: Milli Gazette article on Bohras

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Unread post by khudaparast » Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:27 am

Adam wrote:Our respect to Rasulullah SAW is also by respecting his wasi & successor. That also means to show no respect to those who fought a war against him (Ayshah).

S. Insaf and gulam mohammeds post clearly reflect that they both are neither
Bohra nor
Ismaili not even
Shias.

hey DUMB

do I really need to be one of these category to be worshiper of ALLAH? and ultimately to get jannah?

Bohra nor
Ismaili not even
Shias.




what If I am neither of above still follow QURAAN and PROPHET and worship ALLAH ALONE.

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Unread post by khudaparast » Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:28 am

isnt it the core belief of ISLAAM to worship ALLAH ALONE?

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Unread post by progticide » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:03 pm

khudaparast wrote: what If I am neither of above still follow QURAAN and PROPHET and worship ALLAH ALONE.
In that case you are violating the WILL of the Prophet(SAWW)......since he directed Muslims to follow the Quran and the Ahle Bayt after him.....and that these two are inseperable until they meet the Prophet (SAWW) at the pool of Kausar.....and there is no dispute about this fact. Now, I dont see the mention of AhleBayt in the grand statement you have made above...

So if you follow the Quran and leave out the AhleBayt, you have gone against the will of the Rasullah(SAWW).

Any guesses now where you will finally land up? :roll:

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Re: Milli Gazette article on Bohras

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Unread post by khudaparast » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:27 pm

progticide wrote:
khudaparast wrote: what If I am neither of above still follow QURAAN and PROPHET and worship ALLAH ALONE.
In that case you are violating the WILL of the Prophet(SAWW)......since he directed Muslims to follow the Quran and the Ahle Bayt after him.....and that these two are inseperable until they meet the Prophet (SAWW) at the pool of Kausar.....and there is no dispute about this fact. Now, I dont see the mention of AhleBayt in the grand statement you have made above...

So if you follow the Quran and leave out the AhleBayt, you have gone against the will of the Rasullah(SAWW).
Any guesses now where you will finally land up? :roll:
this is where you moron fails, how do u already guess that I have left ahlul bayt?

to be very honest one who only worship ALLAH and follows QURAAN, will love ahlul bayt more then any idol worshipers like you....

coz one who reads QURAAN and also understands QURAAN will realize how great ahlul bayt were....

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Unread post by progticide » Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:31 pm

khudaparast wrote: coz one who reads QURAAN and also understands QURAAN will realize how great ahlul bayt were....
Now we know your level of understanding of basic Islamic knowledge.....AhlulBayt are not Pandavas of Mahabharat, Roman or Greek Kings or Vikings, that no longer exist and therefore you are saying WERE.....Ahlulbayt is the line of succession from the Prophet(SAWW) that shall continue to exist until the end of times......

Read the post above again....the Quran and the AhlulBayt shall remain inseperable until they meet the Prophet(SAWW) at the pond of Kausar.

Go Home, kid. Finish your school homework.

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:08 pm

progticide wrote:
khudaparast wrote: I worship ALLAH ALONE.
In that case you are violating the WILL of the Prophet(SAWW)......Any guesses now where you will finally land up? :roll:
any guesses now from the above exchange of where the kamzarf o munafiq wa mushrik frog's backside will finally land up? :roll:

a kamzarf o munafiq wa mushrik frog's backside, who does sajda to a human being, is lecturing true muslims on their fate???!!!

enough said, go home kid, before you pee in your pants!


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Unread post by khudaparast » Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:27 pm

progticide wrote:
khudaparast wrote: coz one who reads QURAAN and also understands QURAAN will realize how great ahlul bayt were....
Now we know your level of understanding of basic Islamic knowledge.....AhlulBayt are not Pandavas of Mahabharat, Roman or Greek Kings or Vikings, that no longer exist and therefore you are saying WERE.....Ahlulbayt is the line of succession from the Prophet(SAWW) that shall continue to exist until the end of times......
Read the post above again....the Quran and the AhlulBayt shall remain inseperable until they meet the Prophet(SAWW) at the pond of Kausar.
Go Home, kid. Finish your school homework.
Instead of defending play boy like mufaddal who is too busy with helicopter rides and flirting with air hostesses, use your time to study QURAAN, I am not sure what you are feed in sabak, but this is what QURAAN says....

"Surely, those who believe, those who are the Jews and the Sabians and the Christians – whosoever believed in Allaah and the Last Day, and worked righteousness, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve."
[al-Maa’idah 5:69]


Allah most merciful accept true IMAAN even from jews and christians, condition is, they JJUST WORSHIP ALLAH ALONE.and dont do shirk.


and as zulfiqar said :
enough said, go home kid, before you pee in your pants!

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:28 pm

Adam wrote: Our respect to Rasulullah SAW is also by respecting his wasi & successor. That also means to show no respect to those who fought a war against him (Ayshah).

S. Insaf and gulam mohammeds post clearly reflect that they both are neither
Bohra nor
Ismaili not even Shias.
Adam,

Firstly I thank you for keeping me away from the SPLIT groups as Allah (swt) has clearly defined the punishment for people who create a divide and split the Ummah of His Beloved Prophet Rasul Allah (s.a.w.). You have also confirmed that you take pride in calling yourself Shia,Ismaili, Bohra etc. but have an allergy to Muslims. When Munkir and Nakeer will ask you the first 3 questions in your qabr which decides your fate till qayamat and one of the questions will be as to what is your Deen, it is anybody's guess that you will fail miserably here because you will say that my Deen is Dawoodi Bohra. The angels will ruffle all the pages of their dictionary but will NOT find any such Deen and you will be doomed here itself.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:50 pm

Adam wrote: Our respect to Rasulullah SAW is also by respecting his wasi & successor.
I dont blame you for the above quote as you are the follower of the ones whose business thrives on twisting quotes/statements. The fact of the matter is that you respect the wasi and successor BECAUSE they are the wasi & successor of Rasul Allah (s.a.w.) and not the other way round, if they had no linkage to Prophet (s.a.w.) then you would not have respected them. Hence they are revered and held in high esteem due to they being associated with Prophet (s.a.w.) and NOT because the Prophet (s.a.w.) being associated with them. This is commonsense but as the saying goes "Commonsense is not very common" !!

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Unread post by khudaparast » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:38 am

it seems bohras have chose this name "BOHRA" for very right reasons.

they pray,speak,care,love just for business....

nothing is FREE in bohra world......

even LOVE FOR MUHAMMED(s) AND HIS PROGENY(S), seems a part of BUSINESS to earn JANNAH.

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Unread post by badrijanab » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:24 am

khudaparast wrote:it seems bohras have chose this name "BOHRA" for very right reasons.

they pray,speak,care,love just for business....

nothing is FREE in bohra world......

even LOVE FOR MUHAMMED(s) AND HIS PROGENY(S), seems a part of BUSINESS to earn JANNAH.
Khudaparast,

Reformist themselves are firstly Bohra then reformist. So, mind your language - do not utter rubbish on Bohra, u may do so on Kothar but not on Bohras.

R u Dawoodi Bohra mumin?

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Unread post by khudaparast » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:48 am

badrijanab wrote:
khudaparast wrote:it seems bohras have chose this name "BOHRA" for very right reasons.

they pray,speak,care,love just for business....

nothing is FREE in bohra world......

even LOVE FOR MUHAMMED(s) AND HIS PROGENY(S), seems a part of BUSINESS to earn JANNAH.
Khudaparast,
Reformist themselves are firstly Bohra then reformist. So, mind your language - do not utter rubbish on Bohra, u may do so on Kothar but not on Bohras.

R u Dawoodi Bohra mumin?
momeen is mention is QURAAN so many times, but no were I came across to any thing called dawoodi bohra momeen, what is that?

and to be honest u are biggest criminal on this website to split people in the name of fatemi dawat and ismaili sectism...

there is no different between you and kothari morons.

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Unread post by khudaparast » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:54 am

badrijanab wrote:
khudaparast wrote:it seems bohras have chose this name "BOHRA" for very right reasons.

they pray,speak,care,love just for business....

nothing is FREE in bohra world......
even LOVE FOR MUHAMMED(s) AND HIS PROGENY(S), seems a part of BUSINESS to earn JANNAH.
Khudaparast,
Reformist themselves are firstly Bohra then reformist. So, mind your language - do not utter rubbish on Bohra, u may do so on Kothar but not on Bohras.

R u Dawoodi Bohra mumin?
have u ever came out of udaipur whole of your life? or have u read any other civilized literature other then daimul islaam? if not, then I am very sorry for you.

you need to learn so many things yet....

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Unread post by progticide » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:27 am

khudaparast wrote:
badrijanab wrote: Khudaparast,
Reformist themselves are firstly Bohra then reformist. So, mind your language - do not utter rubbish on Bohra, u may do so on Kothar but not on Bohras.

R u Dawoodi Bohra mumin?
have u ever came out of udaipur whole of your life? or have u read any other civilized literature other then daimul islaam? if not, then I am very sorry for you.

you need to learn so many things yet....
Hahahahahaha.....ROFL,

Reformist biradari mein sab Guru hai.....sab ek dusre ko sabaq de rahe he......yahan chela ustad ka guru he aur har munafiq dusre ko munafiq keh raha he......khud ke momin hone ka pata nahi, aur dusre ko puchhte he "Kya tum Momin ho?".......it's truly amazing....kehta bhi deewana aur sunta bhi deewana.

Yahan koi sunni he, koi wahhabi he, koi nizari he, koi isna ashari he, koi pata nahi kya he.....haa, lekin sab reformists he.....aur isiliye sab momin he.....wah bhai wah.....

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Unread post by think » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:15 am

reformist pehle bohri hai aur engineer bhi hai. ab to naya fatwa hai 420 kothar se, sare engineer ko bycot karo, koi bhi abde engineer nahe bane ga, magar agar tumhe makaan ke lyia engineer ke zaroorat parhe to apna kaam niikal lena.

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Unread post by think » Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:39 pm

These kothari goons; they want to bycot engineers but want to use the products engineers make.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:56 pm

What a mockery we have made of a guidance that we believe is for all people and all time! Yet, we the members of the divided community have the audacity to claim that we are the best of the ummah raised for humanity? Are we insane?

The Quran aptly describes the existing divisions when it says: "[or] among those who have broken the unity of their faith and have become sects, each group delighting in but what they themselves hold [by way of tenets]." (30:32)

Obviously, we have a problem in our understanding of our relations with God and His messenger. Obviously, all of us are making some mistake somewhere in our reading of the Quran and legitimizing the divisions. The Quran is absolutely clear on the ideological clarity of believers when it says: "All human beings were once one single community; [then they began to differ] whereupon God raised up the prophets as heralds of glad tidings and as warners, and through them bestowed revelation from on high, setting forth the truth, so that it might decide between people with regard to all on which they had come to hold divergent views. Yet none other than the selfsame people who had been granted this [revelation] began, out of mutual jealousy, to disagree about its meaning after all evidence of the truth had come unto them. But God guided the believers unto the truth about which, by His leave, they had disagreed: for God guides onto a straight way him that wills [to be guided]." (2:213)

The Quran strongly chastises those who promote differences when it says: “Verily, as for those who have broken the unity of their faith and have become sects - you have nothing to do with them. Behold, their case rests with God: and in time He will make them understand what they were doing." (6:159)

We are often told that our Prophet told us that the differences among the ummah are a mercy. The statement attributed to the Prophet contradicts the Quranic and Prophetic teachings and promotes an idea that the guidance of God is not clear and there is room in it for differences among scholars and people. That God was unable to clarify His message and He left it to scholars and individuals to determine the final truth. Is this not a blasphemy? Why are promoting this?

We all know that the Prophet was neither a Shia nor a Sunni, nor a Hanafi, or Shafai, or Maliki, or Jafari, or Hanbali. We all know that he was not a Deobandi or Barelvi. The Prophet did not follow any of the imams or the leaders. They were the ones who tried to follow the Prophet and the Quran.

Is Allah's guidance so complicated that we would never be able to find the truth collectively or that we would always differ? How come our noted scholars and renowned Shayukhs describe us as Sunnis or Shafais and not just Muslims.

Through these sectarian divisions and ideological differences, we have turned the guidance of Allah into a human-made religion. We have polluted it and we have changed its essence to suit our cultural, financial, political and so called spiritual interests?

We are guilty of vulgarizing our faith. We are guilty of confusing the seekers of truth with our meaningless differences. We have created a situation where a new comer does not come to Islam even after accepting Shahadah but comes to a sect or an ideology or a sub-sect that claims the right to speak on behalf of Islam.

The problem with us is that we have maligned our own prophet by attributing statements to him that defy the very logic of faith. We are so arrogant that we are imposing our weaknesses on our prophet and spending our time justifying our position in the name of God and Prophet. How loathsome is our attitude and behaviour?

Let us at least start identifying ourselves as Muslims and not as Shias, or Sunnis, or Salafis, or Wahabis or progressive or Orthodox. We are Muslims believing in the words of Allah and Sunna of our Prophet.

http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtop ... f=2&t=7541

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Re: Milli Gazette article on Bohras

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Unread post by khudaparast » Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:13 pm

progticide wrote:
khudaparast wrote:
have u ever came out of udaipur whole of your life? or have u read any other civilized literature other then daimul islaam? if not, then I am very sorry for you.

you need to learn so many things yet....
Hahahahahaha.....ROFL,

Reformist biradari mein sab Guru hai.....sab ek dusre ko sabaq de rahe he......yahan chela ustad ka guru he aur har munafiq dusre ko munafiq keh raha he......khud ke momin hone ka pata nahi, aur dusre ko puchhte he "Kya tum Momin ho?".......it's truly amazing....kehta bhi deewana aur sunta bhi deewana.

Yahan koi sunni he, koi wahhabi he, koi nizari he, koi isna ashari he, koi pata nahi kya he.....haa, lekin sab reformists he.....aur isiliye sab momin he.....wah bhai wah.....
hey kamzarf bewakoof , do u even know what is defination of MOMEEN?

go read QURAAN....

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Re: Milli Gazette article on Bohras

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:53 pm

Is it not strange that defenders of 51 and 52 Dais have not refuted a single charge that I levied against 51 and 52 but have tried to drag the topic on Shia/Sunni belief?

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Wed Dec 26, 2012 6:47 pm

bhai insaf,

that is typical of abde dawoodi bohras. when faced with awkward truths, they will divert, obfuscate, abuse, confuse, make personal attacks and suddenly bring in islam, they will talk of danger to shia-ism, when they have no love for islam or its prophet, they pay only lip service to ali, and they only use kerbala and the shahadat of hussain as convenient tools to emotionally manipulate and blackmail gullible sheep into parting with their hard earned money.

what do you expect from a community of blind sheep who willingly offer their heads and backsides for slaughter and worse?