WHERE IS SYENDA BURHANUDDIN

[Al Zulfiqar]

We know that Syedna Our Maula is there for us Till Qayamat & Ramazan is a proof of this Statement.
Secondly we Mumins pray for Our Maula just to take Barakaat as Our Maula doesnot need anyone's DOA but we mumins need his blessings & DOA.

abdessnsbsns,

1. syedna is not immortal, just as the nabi and all nabi's before him, all the imams and each and every human being who ever lived are not immortal. before you open your kufr filled mouth to make such stupid statements, think what you utter. if syedna dies eventually, will you swallow your own faeces?
2. syedna has in innumerable majlises begged his 'mumeneen' to pray for his long life, even shedding tears at the prospect of death and lamenting his old age and ill-health. now you say he doesn't need our dua??! which planet do you live on? oh, i forgot, idiots like you live in the sewers, where the light does not shine and vermin thrive.

pata nahi kahan kahan se aa jatey hai ghadhe ke sardar yahan...

[think]

smb is a small fry among the 1lac 21000 nabis and imams. They all needed prayers. even the Rasool asked for forgiveness every time he prayed. The kothar asks all mumineen to pray for smb . I recall at one time when smb was very very sick every body panicked and kothar asked all mumineen to do zabihat of goat as sadakah for his health. Two rakat namaz for his good health has now become a norm at every occasion.

[Safiuddin]

I just looked again at the "current" Eid pic of Burhanuddin and compared it to previous pics of him.
The physical facial deterioration present in past pics has miraculously disappeared - ostensibly from all of
the abde duas for his immortality. I'm concluding that this is NOT a recent pic of Burhanuddin
from this 2013 Eid - or abde Bohra duas are finally reaching the abode of the celestial god.

[Adam]

@SBM
I hope your understandning of the Eid events is clear.

[wise_guy]

I just looked again at the "current" Eid pic of Burhanuddin and compared it to previous pics of him.
The physical facial deterioration present in past pics has miraculously disappeared - ostensibly from all of
the abde duas for his immortality. I'm concluding that this is NOT a recent pic of Burhanuddin
from this 2013 Eid - or abde Bohra duas are finally reaching the abode of the celestial god.

yes, apparently some specialist therapists from the Indian state of Kerala were called in for that as I got to know from some sources. Its good that Syedna's (TUS) condition has improved

[Safiuddin]

Hmm, that's good to know. No reason to live life in suffering.

[Al Zulfiqar]

Syedna is our Father atleast have some respect......which insults fatherhood.

if syedna is your father, then i am not surprised that he has immoral and unethical specimens like you as his children! this syedna whom you refer to as your father, was born in the lap of luxury and he is habituated to morons doing sajda to him. he has been trained in arrogance, haughty disdain and aloof detachment towards his followers. he has fully indulged in his naapaak hobby of hunting and killing wild animals for sport and his personal pleasure - a most unislamic trait in a so-called spiritual leader. he sat amused with a sardonic smile on his face while bohra women were assaulted, molested and beaten up in front of him in galiyakot and were shouting 'mola bachao. mola bachao', while their dupattas and ridhas were snatched from them and their modesty outraged.

this same syedna had the 4 daras ustaads mercilessly assaulted, persecuted and one murdered. this same syedna has had no compunction having the corpses of his opponents dug up and thrown out onto the street, he has had no mercy on poor widows and poor bohras from whom vajebaat is collected without the least sympathy, he has had no pangs of conscience announcing grandiose projects like saifee jubilee technical institute, leader press, asian electronics, zari for fatema etc, and then pocketing all the community's money without the least bit of shame or scruples. he has had absolutely no feelings of guilt travelling on the QE2 luxury liner and the concorde, building palaces and huge villas all over the world whilst poor bohras live in squalor and misery in hutments, he has had no guts correcting the ayyash lifestyles of his criminal sons and vast family, he has not bothered to wipe out the corruption which is getting more and more rampant by the day among his employees - the amils, he suffers no dilemma of ethics in accepting hundreds of crores of salaams in black money, he has no shame or sense of duty when neither he nor his family pays a single cent in income taxes anywhere in the world. i can go on and on listing his and his family's crimes.

now that he has become old, infirm, broken and a veritable bag of bones, we are supposed to have sympathy and love for him?? not in the least! as the simon wiesenthal center hunts down nazi war criminals, irrespective of their age or state of health, the syedna deserves the same treatment. if we were a nation, the syedna would have been an ideal candidate to be hauled up before the international court of justice, just like augusto pinochet, radovan karadzic, slobodan milosevic and many other rabid thugs for their crimes against humanity. sadly we are a community of cowards, impotent fools and sheep which will never have the guts to carry out such a bold action.

you are welcome to call such a figure as your father. a father who has never done an honest day's work in his entire life nor earned a single hard-earned penny of his own but lives off the community's money and then lords it over them, feeding them false mojizas and paying hollow lip-service like 'hu tamara haq ma dua karu chhu. tamne hussain na gham na sivai bijo koi gham na aave' etc crap. the pope prays fervently and sincerely for his 2 billion followers and all mankind, so does the dalai lama, the jagadguru sankaracharya, the grand sheikh of mecca masjid and others. so who or what is the syedna? he is a mere 2 bit leader of a miniscule community whom he has deliberately led astray and reduced to slaves, whom he and his administration are constantly looting to enrich themselves.

father, my foot!

[seeker110]

He became a father many times, but was not a father to anyone. Just like his father.

[AbdeSMBSMS]

Sick all through Ramazan, healthy for Eid Money. Every email in Ramzan was asking for money. He doesn't need health, he needs your money.

What are u saying u sick, Aqamaula ( tus ) doesnot needs money. I remember the phrase which Syedna Taher Saifuddin Saheb ( R.A.) said ones that " BHAI MOHAMMED BURHANUDDIN NA TOH QADMO MA DAULAT CHE".
Aqamaula ( tus ) bestowed us his children like me for Deedar on the Auspicious day of Eid ja Haqiqi mana ma ek Eid che.

[SBM]

BHAI MOHAMMED BURHANUDDIN NA TOH QADMO MA DAULAT CHE".

two things
why would a father call his own son BHAI or is that he knew that he was a real BHAI as the bhai of Dawood Gang..
secondly--Moronic Abdes like you and DBL who put their bottom up to put your hard earned daulat in his qadam as qadamboosi and again who would dare not to give his/her money to BHAI...

[Safiuddin]

" BHAI MOHAMMED BURHANUDDIN NA TOH QADMO MA DAULAT CHE".
But of course this is absolutely true, with one important correction that the wily Taher left out:
"Bhai Burhanuddin na toh qadmo ma tamari daulat che."

Hope you enjoyed your fleeting deedar of hubris on Eid Day.

[SBM]

Just in case AbdeSTSSMB missed Br Saifuddin's very well worded post and the word, i am highlighting it for you
TAMARI DAULAT ----IMPERATIVE WORD IS TAMARI, hope you got it now

[Safiuddin]

I'm glad you caught that SBM Bhai. I hope the hoodwinked ones see it too.

[Al Zulfiqar]

abdemsbsmsnsm,

why, what happened? no answer to my above post? disappeared like a coward? well, that's typical of all abde fanatics like you, adam, progticide, etc etc. when cornered, their hijaars get stained yellow and they run and hide with their tail between their trembling legs, only to surface when they think we have forgotten about them.

[AbdeSMBSMS]

Not cowardness Zulfiii but we can't throw stones @ every DOG like U who barks sometimes we have to ignore tooo....

[AbdeSMBSMS]

" BHAI MOHAMMED BURHANUDDIN NA TOH QADMO MA DAULAT CHE".
But of course this is absolutely true, with one important correction that the wily Taher left out:
"Bhai Burhanuddin na toh qadmo ma tamari daulat che."

Hope you enjoyed your fleeting deedar of hubris on Eid Day.

Fact is fact & you guys can't edit the statement with a false interpretation. You guys keep assuming & screening out false statments but u can't recondite the true statement. Poor Guys

[SBM]

Not cowardness Zulfiii but we can't throw stones @ every DOG like U who barks sometimes we have to ignore tooo....

And that is your problem Too many Corrupt Dogs aka Corrupt Aamil and Zaadas are barking and you Abdes are just ignoring and taking it on the chin or some where else....

[Safiuddin]

Fact is fact & you guys can't edit the statement with a false interpretation. You guys keep assuming & screening out false statments but u can't recondite the true statement. Poor Guys

Sorry Mr. Abde. Your logic makes no sense.

Only you can understand the abstruse, right?
Only you and your money-hungry leader have the whole story, right?
Only you and your leader have the right interpretation, correct?
No one here is making any assumptions - if any one is - it is people like you who swallow every lie, story, and dictum that comes from Burhanuddin, Inc.
by assuming that your leader is holy, compassionate, educated, and caring. Moreover, I firmly believe that YOU can't understand recondite knowledge because YOU have given up the right and ability for independent critical thought.
And again, you are absolutely correct: Fact is fact. Your daulat IS at Burhanuddin's feet.

And for that, I pity you.

[Al Zulfiqar]

You guys keep screening out false statments ....

that is what intelligent reformists can easily do. idiots, retards and slaves do not have the ability to detect or screen out false statements....!!!

pata nahin kahan kahan se chale aate hai ghadhe aur moorkh yahan...

[AbdeSMBSMS]

You guys keep screening out false statments ....

that is what intelligent reformists can easily do. idiots, retards and slaves do not have the ability to detect or screen out false statements....!!!

pata nahin kahan kahan se chale aate hai ghadhe aur moorkh yahan...

Idiot progressives like you have the ability to originate remark which doesnot have any stand & which are completely counterfeit.

Jhootho Ka Sardar Zulfikaaaaaaar

[AbdeSMBSMS]

Not cowardness Zulfiii but we can't throw stones @ every DOG like U who barks sometimes we have to ignore tooo....

And that is your problem Too many Corrupt Dogs aka Corrupt Aamil and Zaadas are barking and you Abdes are just ignoring and taking it on the chin or some where else....

The quote which you have posted doesnot make any sense so take my advice make yur accent & vocabulary clear before posting, dont just post in a status of intoxication.

[Nietzsche]

Al Zulfiqar.... Don't bother trying to elicit a response from these people. I'm sure you've noticed that every time an intelligent mark is scored against them, they go into a period of stagnancy, and only return to throw some weightless insult around a few days later.

They can't argue against the facts you've provided time and time and time and time and time again. I know that I'm not nearly as involved in this reform movement as you are, but I'd advise you to stop trying to get a response from them- it just dilutes the important content people should be absorbing whilst reading this forum-- and trust me on this one.... Before I started reading posts here, I was just like Abdesmbsmb.... (Albeit with better grammar as far as English is concerned)

My point is, don't let all these threads descend into arguments and mud slinging. Let the important content shine. I mean no offense- sometimes people here can get aggravating.

[Adam]

@ SBM
I hope the whole Eid Majlis facts have been clarified.
And your question has been answered about whereabouts of Syedna Burhanuddin.

[SBM]

AbdeSTSSMB
Why do not you reply to my question when you said Moula does not need our DUA so why 2 Rakat Namaz ans Shifa Kulli for him
Also YOU LIKE ANOTHER COWARD REFUSE TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS ABOUT AAMIL IN PUNE, IF HE IS APPOINTED BY SYEDNA AND WORKS WITH THE RAZA OF SYEDNA THEN SYEDNA SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT AND IF SYEDNA DOES NOT KNOW THEN HE IS NOT GHAIB NA JANKAAR
Adam
You did reply initially you gave time 11.00 AM in Badri Mahal and then you changed it to later time and some one else also brought a point that STS did look in much better shape AGAIN KOTHARI GOONS ARE VERY GOOD IN MANIPULATION AND ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE

[AbdeSMBSMS]

[quote="SBM"]AbdeSTSSMB
Why do not you reply to my question when you said Moula does not need our DUA so why 2 Rakat Namaz ans Shifa Kulli for him
Also YOU LIKE ANOTHER COWARD REFUSE TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS ABOUT AAMIL IN PUNE, IF HE IS APPOINTED BY SYEDNA AND WORKS WITH THE RAZA OF SYEDNA THEN SYEDNA SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT AND IF SYEDNA DOES NOT KNOW THEN HE IS NOT GHAIB NA JANKAAR

Sbm

If i answer to your quote in Quran tafseer will u be able to understand first tell me. Secondly i have one ? for you.
If anyone in yur family is recuperating dont you pray for them.
Aqamaula ( tus ) is concerned he is our Ruhani Bawa he doesnot tell Nor he needs any one Dua but as his childrens its our duty to pray for Maula ( tus ) long life with Sahet Ameen... which in turn be profitable to us only.
I have a Quran tafseer also for this but you are too illiterate to understand so for you this easy words are easy to digest hope u digest it & dont shoot back.

[AMAFHH]

AbdeSTSSMB
Why do not you reply to my question when you said Moula does not need our DUA so why 2 Rakat Namaz ans Shifa Kulli for him
Also YOU LIKE ANOTHER COWARD REFUSE TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS ABOUT AAMIL IN PUNE, IF HE IS APPOINTED BY SYEDNA AND WORKS WITH THE RAZA OF SYEDNA THEN SYEDNA SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT AND IF SYEDNA DOES NOT KNOW THEN HE IS NOT GHAIB NA JANKAAR

Sbm

If i answer to your quote in Quran tafseer will u be able to understand first tell me. Secondly i have one ? for you.
If anyone in yur family is recuperating dont you pray for them.
Aqamaula ( tus ) is concerned he is our Ruhani Bawa he doesnot tell Nor he needs any one Dua but as his childrens its our duty to pray for Maula ( tus ) long life with Sahet Ameen... which in turn be profitable to us only.
I have a Quran tafseer also for this but you are too illiterate to understand so for you this easy words are easy to digest hope u digest it & dont shoot back.

Abde
try to quote with Quran Tafseer we would like to know it ? as i have never heared this in any of the Majalis

[JC]

Appropriate topic to discuss would be 'where WILL Syedna Burhanuddin BE'.

[seeker110]

To each his own. Br. Zulfekar.
When Abbas Aurangi Sahib was burned alive I prayed to Allah that the day would come that this man dies in his own filth and worse.. My prayers are answered. I am willing to suffer similar if Allah dole out the same for me. But for this one I am mighty thankful.

[Adam]

AbdeSTSSMB
Adam
You did reply initially you gave time 11.00 AM in Badri Mahal and then you changed it to later time and some one else also brought a point that STS did look in much better shape AGAIN KOTHARI GOONS ARE VERY GOOD IN MANIPULATION AND ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE

This thread was made by you to question where Syedna is.
That has been answered.
He presided over the Eid Majlis, that was relayed world wide.
11 am or 10 am, I don't know. I wasn't there, does it make such a difference?

Yes, Syedna did look in much better shape. We are very happy that he is recovering. What's the problem?

[AbdeSMBSMS]

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Abde
try to quote with Quran Tafseer we would like to know it ? as i have never heared this in any of the Majalis

Amahff
You won't ear this type of Ruhani bayan in your Progressive majalis & secondly yur ears are filled with Reformist venom.
I can easily quote with Quran Tafseer but i think that when u guys including you can't digest in a simple matter than to explain you in Quranic Tafseer is next to impossible for you guys to digest.
A very good Phrase for you all Reformist ( bhains ke aage been bajana se kya faida.)