Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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humanbeing
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by humanbeing » Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:46 am

lawgraduate wrote:Is this guy bohra?

Abid Ali Neemuchwala: A CEO in the making
The former TCS veteran's decision to move to Wipro has surprised the IT industry
Well it would be nice to know if he is a bohra ... but doesn't seem to be an abde ! .. abde don't have time to excel in these kind of levels. they are happy with dukaan-makaan-pakwaan. their time is spent in azeemo shaan khidmat of the daai and activities that gains maula-ni-khushi making mohabbat ni rotiyos, chasing maula on his yatras, catching his deedar and earn the barakat barakat and beshumaar barakat, the jannati nazara that maula provides with loads of ehsaaan and karam.

The wordly (dunniyaavi) achievements are no use, abdes are rich and wealthy in collecting maula-nni-khushi to secure a place in jannat,

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By the way, the title of this thread can be changed to "Future of Abdes"

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by humanbeing » Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:49 am

noor5253 wrote:
qutub_mamajiwala wrote:there is no chogadiya or auspicious timings in islam.
every day and minute is same created by Allah.
yes , may be useful as namaaz timings.
Su taari soch ane kitli taari aql.
Bandar jiwo yahan chhe. pacchi ehj banwanu chhe.
LOL ! abdes's believe in poonar-janam as well ??

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:29 am

they beleive whatever MS says without using their god given brain if they have any
he says make roti-- they rush to do it.
he says give me money---they rush to give it taking loan.
he says every 16th raat daris--they rush to masjid after ishaa prayer is over.
he says come to mumbai for ziyarat--they rush to do it within specified time.
he says gilaaf chadhao--they make mountain of it.

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by mnoorani » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:51 am

alhaq wrote:agar ham sab ye kartay hay to teri **** kyu jalti hay,,,,
tu chala ja yaha say....tujhay kon kehta hay k tu is community may aaa,,,
door chala ja ,,,,
kaam kuch karna nahi aur baatey bari bari
teray kq may himmat hay to kar k dekhaye ye sab kuch,,,,
darr k maara betha huwa hay bil may
KQ tera,Muffy bhi tera
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Jo Khaak mein mil gaya hai woh murda al hayy bhi tera
Bachi kuchi hai qaum ki daulat ,use khaa jayega ye naya baap tera.

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by mnoorani » Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:04 pm

alhaq wrote:bhai hamay nahi janna
tum kyu apna time zaee kar rahay ho....
teray shaitani chungal may koi nahi aayega ....
bhaag jaa
Shaitaan to woh hai ,jo Moharram mein ho buggy sawaar
Bhaaga to Muffy hai ,jab Karachi mein hue Mumin pe waar
Q kehta hai woh khud ko dai ,leke Imam Hussain ka naam
Jab waqt aaya bahaduri dikha ne ka,kiya Ceylon mein kaam tamaam

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by humanbeing » Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:46 am

mnoorani

welcome back ... lol ...

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by humanbeing » Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:05 am

alhaq wrote:human being
tum hamari fiqar karna chor do
apni aakherat ki fiqarkaro...
hum to jeet gaye,,,
tum haar gaye,,,,
teray angoor khattay hay....
ham nay sab haasil kar lya,,,aur tum dekhtay hi reh gaye,,,,,

jab dekho paysay ki baat kartay ho....
tum say thori na maanga hay,,,,
aaj tak yum nay paysa nikala hay?
tum say kabhi paysa maanga hay?
to phir kyu jhoot boltay ho bhai

Arre bhai

I am not worried for you or for any of you abdes. Infact I enjoy the circus abde and the ring master puts up. Regarding my aakheraat, I will be just fine, leaving my fate to Allah the supreme.

There are no sour grapes, I am very much enjoying the entertainment.

Jab dekho tab paise ki baatein to apke aamil saaheb karte hai .. har waqt kisi-na-kisi baat par fakhera najwa or hoob ki maang karte hai. Arre humsey bahut baar paise maange hai.. jab man kiya to de diya .. warna aage badho keh diyaa !

Kya hai na .. naa to humein jahnnum ka darr hai or naa to jannat ki laalach .. apne karmo par vishwaas hai or allah par bharosa hai ..

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by humanbeing » Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:32 am

alhaq wrote:ohhh to ab smjha may aaya
tum say amil saheb paisay maangtay hayy...
ohhhhh...uska matlab tum hamari dawat may ho isis lye tum say paisa maanga,,,
bhai tumhari baato say lagta tha k tum bohri nahi ho magar ab pata chala k tum to bohri ho isis lye to aamil saheb say tumhari baat hoti haayyy,,,,
ohh agar tum hamaray darmyan rehtay ho aur hami ko boltay ho hamari system ko khrab boltay ho to uska matlab tum gaddar ho,,,
hamaray darmyan rehtay ho aamil saheb say baatay bhi kartay ho aur hum ko hi bura boltay ho..
uska matlab tum munafiq ho ,,,,
Arre waah.. aap kitne smart ho !! .. kyaa bat pata kari hai ...

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by summer123 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:40 am

alhaq wrote:ab samajh may aa gaya k may kon hu....
aap koi nahi....aap joker ho...circus mai joker ka kaam hai hasana....aap bhi is forum mai yahee kar rahe ho.... :D :D :D

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by summer123 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:44 am

alhaq wrote:summer bhai
naam to tumhara SUMMER hay
dhoom 3 may aamir khaan ka naam summer tha ,,
dhoom 3 may aamir khan nay joker ka kaam kya tha,,
to us hisab say joker to abhi tum ho
:lol: :lol: :lol:
bhai naam se kuchh nahi hota hai....kaam se pahchan hoti hai....aapka naam bhi alhaq hai...haq ka toh aapko pataa nahi....joker ka kaam bakhubi kar rahe ho...circus mai har show ke baad joker ka kaam hasana hota hai....wo aap har post ke baad yahaa kar rahe ho.....lage raho

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by ponga bhori » Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:48 pm

alhaq wrote:Bhai agar naam say kuch nahi hota to tum nay apna naam summer kyu rakha?
winter kyu nahi rakha :lol: :lol:
Summerbhai now be a good boy and go to moula and get your name changed. He will give you a proper name. You have been named without raza. Most probably he will name you Bhuranuddin. Then come here with that name make an arzee to the Admin. to allow name change presenting name change legal papers. Thats it. Done.

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by Shammu » Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:58 am

It is better to be called munafiq than a de as it is the most abuse word in the modern world

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:36 pm

PREPARING THE FUTURE GENERATION OF ABDES !!

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:54 pm

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by Qadir » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:35 am

well we don't revere our dai.

We love him as our spiritual father.

The feelings we have for him can't be understood by people like you.

You think we give him money because he asks.

No we give him money because we like to as a khidmat towards daawat.

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:00 am

bro qadir,
no problem in ur giving, give as much as u want.
but what about who doesnt want to give?
why is he forcing?

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by humanbeing » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:52 am

qutub_mamajiwala wrote:bro qadir,
no problem in ur giving, give as much as u want.
but what about who doesnt want to give?
why is he forcing?
Bro QM

Lets be realistic, there is persuasion, but no force. There are ample number of abdes falling over their feet lining up to pay for ziyafats or any other schemes. In addition the mullahs and sheikhs maintain a personal network of wealthy abdes to meet the targets of ziyafats and collections for various schemes.
Majorly these abdes have disposable incomes to shell out for keeping up with showmanship. There is demand and supply at play. One must not feel bad for those who cave in to Kothari demands.
Be it SED tours, ziyafats, pagla, nisbat or nikaahs, whenever I was approached for availing these “barakaats” . I agreed to participate but without a single penny. The pursuasion was sweet to condescending, but one has to stand their ground. They can be dealt with tact. Moreover there are enough abde fools out there, so these sheikhs and mullahs don’t waste their time.

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:28 am

bro hm
yes, may be in ur place.
and i am not talking about ziyafat pagla at all.
i dont have that much money and nobody even asked me
i am talking about the coercian in jamaat office.
they dont give safai chithi without fmb hoob, ramzan hoob, tabudaat hoob, ashara hoob.
i dont take fmb thali, nor do i attend in ramzan ortabudaat.
ashara only one day i attend and that jaman is made by peoples hoob which i pay.
so why they are forcing to pay?

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by humanbeing » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:54 am

qutub_mamajiwala wrote:bro hm
yes, may be in ur place.
and i am not talking about ziyafat pagla at all.
i dont have that much money and nobody even asked me
i am talking about the coercian in jamaat office.
they dont give safai chithi without fmb hoob, ramzan hoob, tabudaat hoob, ashara hoob.
i dont take fmb thali, nor do i attend in ramzan ortabudaat.
ashara only one day i attend and that jaman is made by peoples hoob which i pay.
so why they are forcing to pay?
Even in my case and many other I know, who do not agree with various schemes run by local jamaat refused to pay and still did not have any issues. I do not subscribe niether pay for FMB dabbas, qaradan hasana, ziayarat hoob, faakher najwa, tabudaat, ashara or ramzan masalla tax. I have only paid sabeel money and demanded a reciept.

the mullahs, sheikhs and even amils will take turns to pursuade for shelling out something or other. as long as we do not offend them and thier corrupt deceptive ideaology, they wont come after our lives. they act strict with non issuance or raza and safaai chitthi, there are ways to handle these also. one must be prepared to move on without these raza or chitthi or else use influence or legal measure to get them in line.

if one is dependent on raza and chitthi then might as well pay up. rather than whining ! the whole world is full of unfair taxes, charges and payments.

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by SBM » Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:06 am

Br HB
Most of the Abdes/Amtes pay all these heavy taxes for Safai Chitti and Raza only. If Abdes/Amtes can get these without paying,Kothari Mafia will be out of business in no time.

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:55 pm

watsup msg :-

Design of a new Rida to facilitate amtes who run for deedar of their master, specially on the roads of Bhendi Bazar..... the ghagra which slows down their speed will no more be a hurdle !! :lol: :lol:

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:32 am

[quote="if one is dependent on raza and chitthi then might as well pay up. rather than whining ! the whole world is full of unfair taxes, charges and payments.[/quote]

I agree with u. world is full of unfair taxes. but there is one big difference.
all govt say we are there to govern-u have to pay or bear consequences.
but jamaat attaches deen with it--why hypocrisy?
let them also say that we are also there to govern and rule over u--like it or not.
come out in open with their true colors and not hide behind deen--which is not there in the first place.

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by humanbeing » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:04 am

qutub_mamajiwala wrote: I agree with u. world is full of unfair taxes. but there is one big difference.
all govt say we are there to govern-u have to pay or bear consequences.
but jamaat attaches deen with it--why hypocrisy?
let them also say that we are also there to govern and rule over u--like it or not.
come out in open with their true colors and not hide behind deen--which is not there in the first place.
Bro QM

I understand your objection, just sharing my views. Kothar actually thumps down the idea into abde minds that; they are the governors of deen, the heaven and hell. Life before and after. Their power is as good as the fear of abde. Kothari guys are businessmen, why would they come out and leak their secret. Would any prudent businessman leak out their USPs or secrets that make them rich. Kothar just like any other businessman around changes their strategy according to customer they are handling. Why only accuse kothar, infact every organized religion works on this strategy.

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:28 pm

KIDS STANDING DANGEROUSLY FOR DEEDAR OF THEIR LEADER....... FUTURE GENERATION OF ABDES WHO WILL UNDOUBTEDLY BECOME DUMB, IDIOTS, BRAIN WASHED AND EXPLOITED SLAVES (ABDE SYEDNAS)

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:45 pm

watsup msg :-

First Ladies Band from Pune gave royal salute to

Shz Qaid Johar BS
Shz Idris BS
Shzadi Shrin Bensaab
Shzadi Hussaina bensaab
Shzadi Umme Hani bensaab
Dr. Moiz BS

Mubarak,
Proud of Pune.
The children have made us proud.


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Now ladies will roam around beating drums !!

After the Pied Piper band in USA it will now be the amte syednas who will lead Muffy's AC Buggies and Palkhis during his various extortion trips (Vasooli) to different countries !!

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri May 01, 2015 7:06 pm

BARKATI ROTI MAKING :lol: :lol:

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by JC » Fri May 01, 2015 7:19 pm

There is only future for so-called First Royal Family ......... rest are all petty and cheap abdes and amtes who are in this world only to obey their Muffadali masters .... :x

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun May 10, 2015 5:42 pm

Inteha ho gayi, Intezaar ki
Aayi na kuch khabar mere THAAL ki
:lol: :lol:

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by anajmi » Tue May 12, 2015 1:00 pm

:mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue May 12, 2015 6:22 pm

KIDS BEING BROUGHT EARLY IN THE MORNING (SOME WITH FETAS) FOR "DEEDAR" OF THEIR MASTER !!

Huzurala Tus Lead Fajr Namaaz in Surat

24th Rajab, 1436
Location: GJ, India, Surat


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