Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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ghulam muhammed
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun May 17, 2015 4:43 pm

TODDLERS WITH "FETAS"....... WHAT NEXT ?? NAQLI DADHIS !!

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Biradar
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by Biradar » Sun May 17, 2015 10:42 pm

More interesting than the kids, is the poster behind More-la Muffy (LA). I can't read all the lines as the picture is cut off, but what I can read:
  • - More-la is Master of all "uomoor", i.e. religious things
    - More-la is Master of "maal and malakat" i.e. money and state
    - More-la is Master of "haar cheeze", i.e, of everything
The fool who made this does not realize that once one puts the last line, all other lines are redundant.

The level of brainwashing and manipulation of religion by these thug Ibili "leader" is amazing. This is what they teach kids from a young age, so they grow up never to question this thug leader.

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by anajmi » Mon May 18, 2015 9:42 am

If the bohra Maula is the Maalik of har cheez, then what happened to Allah?

I guess the transformation is complete!!

HighFlyer
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by HighFlyer » Mon May 18, 2015 10:22 am

I am even against the use of this word "Malik" in this regards, because this is one of the Allah Name.

KA786110
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by KA786110 » Mon May 18, 2015 1:40 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:TODDLERS WITH "FETAS"....... WHAT NEXT ?? NAQLI DADHIS !!

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Since when a Dia became Maula of everything?

Qadi Nauman is his book 'Kitab-ul-Himma fi Adabi Ataba-el-a'emma'

Majlis 35.
THE DUTIES OF THE 'DAA-EES'
(Missionaries.).
**********
Self-correction is more necessary in the case of a 'daa-ee' than in the case Of any one else.
He should lead a good life and prove to be a 'daa-ee' in the true sense of the word. For
when he invites people to his faith, his followers will look upto him as the best model. If they
find good or bad things in him, they will attribute them to the teachings of the Imams and their
faith.



I quoted only first paragraph for brevity.
The full translation is here:
https://ismailimail.wordpress.com/2011/ ... -a-moulvi/

Biradar
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by Biradar » Mon May 18, 2015 3:40 pm

KA786110 wrote: Since when a Dia became Maula of everything?

Qadi Nauman is his book 'Kitab-ul-Himma fi Adabi Ataba-el-a'emma'

Majlis 35.
THE DUTIES OF THE 'DAA-EES'
(Missionaries.).
**********
Self-correction is more necessary in the case of a 'daa-ee' than in the case Of any one else.
He should lead a good life and prove to be a 'daa-ee' in the true sense of the word. For
when he invites people to his faith, his followers will look upto him as the best model. If they
find good or bad things in him, they will attribute them to the teachings of the Imams and their
faith.



I quoted only first paragraph for brevity.
The full translation is here:
https://ismailimail.wordpress.com/2011/ ... -a-moulvi/
Although I agree with spirt of your comment, I think the quotes are not applicable to the da'i al-mutlaq. In the time of the Fatimids, when the Imams were in zahir, there were many da'is. This paragraph is applicable to them. When the imam is in parda, the da'i al-mutlaq occupies the seat of the imam, and in fact, is the imam for all practical purposes. In this case, one should not, and can not apply, these standards.

Note that I am not defending Mr. Muffadul (LA). In fact, even the imam has not made these absurd claims. There is only one "maalik" of everything. He is not human. However, these types of code-of-conducts don't apply to da'i al-mutlaq.

KA786110
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by KA786110 » Mon May 18, 2015 4:00 pm

Ok, I see what is the difference. No wonder there is such an attachment and reverence.

One wonders though with so many competing dai al-mutalaqs, it would be difficult keep a community united.

Smart
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by Smart » Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:02 pm

The Dai e Nazims have suppressed the truth to self proclaim themselves as Dai ul Mutlaq.

I have been trying to extrapolate the situation we are going through at present. The claims and the counter claims.
Such situations of decision making have come every 2 or 3 generations, How many of our ancestral decisions were reasoned and considered, and how many of them were sheeple like, which we are seeing now.

I really wonder.

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:33 pm

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by DisillusionedDB » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:50 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:Image
I don't see anything wrong with the pic. :roll:

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by true_bohra » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:21 am

DisillusionedDB wrote:
ghulam muhammed wrote:Image
I don't see anything wrong with the pic. :roll:
Just ignore GM post....he has a habit of posting all the whatsapp msgs that he gets...

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by suleman » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:03 am

true_bohra wrote:
DisillusionedDB wrote: I don't see anything wrong with the pic. :roll:
Just ignore GM post....he has a habit of posting all the whatsapp msgs that he gets...
Tum Log Ignore Karnay kay Siwa Kar Bhee Kiya Saktay hu.... ( kohee jawab hoga tu du gay na )

KAHEE YA LOG ( JAIN BOHRA TU NAHI ? )

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:42 pm

TODDLERS WITH "FETAS", WHAT NEXT ??....... NAQLI DADHIS !!

Muffy with Mini Abdes in Dar es Salam.

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by SBM » Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:53 pm

^
Nanhey Munney Abde Meri Muthee mein Kiya Hei
Muthi mein taqdeer tumhari
Mein ney tumhare Maa Baap kau Bus mein kiya hey
Bholi Bhaali Matwali Aankhon mey kiya hey
Aankhon mey hey bebasi hamari
Aani waali Ghulamai kaa Daar saa basa hei
Nanhey Muney Abde Meri Mutthee mein kiya hei
Bihek mein Jo ROTI miley loge yaa no loge
Moula ki JUTI miley tau khoshi sey hum lengey
Ghulami Ki Zindgai hum jehlen gey
Moula Moula chila ker Jiney mei Maza hei
Nanney Munney Meri Muthee mein kiya hei
Aaney waali zidagi kisi hogi hum ko batawo
Aaney waali zindagi mein humare Galey mei Zanjeer Hogi
Naa Scientist baney kaa Khawab hoga, ROTI bananey ka Khawab hoga
Haath Jod key kharey hongey yeh hamare MOULA ney likha hey
Nanney Munney Bachey....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXq23K7T6n0

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by jungle999 » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:30 pm

THIS IS WHERE THE BRAIN WASH STARTS.

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Jun 21, 2015 6:10 pm

watsup msg

Forwarded as Received :

Shk Mustafa Lahori na farzand no misak..... Farzand Pakistan no badge lagaavi ne misak aapo.... Mola ye karam farmaayu ne poochu Pakistan thi aaya cho ane muh par haath Mubarak phiraavi ne pyaar kidhu ane arz par farmaayu ke HAMNAAJ JAMEA VAASTEY NAAM LIKHAAVO !!

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by AgnosticIndian » Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:11 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:TODDLERS WITH "FETAS", WHAT NEXT ??....... NAQLI DADHIS !!

Muffy with Mini Abdes in Dar es Salam.

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Preparing the cash cows for the future, for 54th

talibeilm
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DB KI BEKASI

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Unread post by talibeilm » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:19 am

तुझे रहबर समझना पड़ गया है,
ये मेरी बेकसी की इंतहा है।
Isn't it true for all the dawoodi bohras

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:41 pm

2nd Faize Mawaid Burhaniyah Sihori Thaali Distributed by Farzando in Spartanburg

18th Ramadan, 1436
Location: United States, spartanburg, Raj Markaz


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ghulam muhammed
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:05 am

Want to see todays Pagan worshippers ??..... Look at Abde idiot performing Puja Aarti/Wadhavni of their Bhagwan. This is similar to Hindus performing Aarti Puja of Krishna, Shiva and Shanker Bhagwan photos !!

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SBM
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by SBM » Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:28 am

How do you stop this practice since Kothari Mafia will not issue a Farman and when some one exposes this thru Media, many of the people here will scream Wahabi/Salafi retribution.
Any thoughts from those all who complained about exposing Bohra Sajda practice in Baharaini news papers.
Why would SKQ and his clan will not issue a FARMAN to stop this wadhawa ni Rasm on him, that will be a positive step. JUST ABOLISH WADHAW and it can start from SKQ side.

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by aflatoon » Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:50 pm

Bro GM,

the only difference is photo hindus perform on imaginary photo or idol here it is living deity or his photograph.

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:51 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:Want to see todays Pagan worshippers ??..... Look at Abde idiot performing Puja Aarti/Wadhavni of their Bhagwan. This is similar to Hindus performing Aarti Puja of Krishna, Shiva and Shanker Bhagwan photos !!

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This ABSOLUTELY WRONG AND SHIRK in Islam sone bohras have gone out of their senses completely

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by ponga bhori » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:20 pm

Fatwa from Kothar has already been issued to do aarti to the photo.

SBM
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by SBM » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:30 pm

^
:D :)

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by AgnosticIndian » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:58 pm

I have no problems with wadhawa limited to what's done at home on occasions of birthdays and marriages. Routinely doing it to Aamils & Muffy etc is not required.

Islam in India always had Indic touch to it. No harm in it. That's why Sufism found a place. The day Indian Muslims start to behave like the ones in Pak & beyond, India will be in deep shit. Hope that day never comes.

SBM
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by SBM » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:05 pm

India will be in deep shit. Hope that day never comes.
And what do say about Ghar Wapsi, Beef Ban, Surya Darshan, Yoga and Raksha Bandhan being imposed on all
Well Hindus have its own ISIS who want to rebuild Ram Temple and impose everything I mentioned above.

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:16 pm

This are all sign of acche din promised by Shri modi riot maker and his supporters. dont be surprise when bohra will start dancing in navratri saying dance is also good for health just like yoga.

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by Dumbledore » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:55 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:Want to see todays Pagan worshippers ??..... Look at Abde idiot performing Puja Aarti/Wadhavni of their Bhagwan. This is similar to Hindus performing Aarti Puja of Krishna, Shiva and Shanker Bhagwan photos !!

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Astaghfirullah

And my fanatic abde cousins find nothing wrong in this.

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by AgnosticIndian » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:42 pm

SBM wrote:
India will be in deep shit. Hope that day never comes.
And what do say about Ghar Wapsi, Beef Ban, Surya Darshan, Yoga and Raksha Bandhan being imposed on all
Well Hindus have its own ISIS who want to rebuild Ram Temple and impose everything I mentioned above.
Muslims and victim mentality go hand in hand. How did Islam spread? How did Fatemi belief system spread in Gujarat? Proselytizing off course.
If the Hindus proselytize now it's a problem? To each his own. If someone wants to convert, it's their wish.

Beef ban is for some strange reason seen as anti Muslim move. Beef ban has existed for a loooong time in many states. Congress gvt has introduced that.
Nobody is imposing Suryanamaskar either. No gun has been pointed on the head. It's a bloody exercise that anyone can do name it whatever you want instead of Suryanamaskar. People do it inside closed rooms where the sun is not even visible. Ditto with entire Yog thing.
Raksha bandhan, well what's so religious about it? It's part of Indic culture & a day to celebrate brother sister relationship. People happily celebrate Valentine's and other days but when it comes to our own Indian culture, it's all called Hindu and opposed. We are from this land. Don't mix religion and cultural aspects. You can do Yog and still be a Muslim. You can get a rakhi tied and still be a Muslim. That's how the Muslims of the land have been. Imbibed local culture.

But then the comments on this forum don't surprise me. People want to go to a "puritanical" form. Similar to what Wahabis propagate. First step to radicalization. Instead of calling the Hindus ISIS which is laughable considering Indian Muslims live in all freedom here, look within