Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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ghulam muhammed
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:36 pm

Bro dawedaar,

Personally, I don't give a religious color to yoga but the timing is questionable as the emphasis on Yoga started after Narendra Modi's campaign so its more about pleasing the butcher of Muslims and his Hindutva agenda rather then its health benefits. There was no such thing during the era of earlier Dais although the origin of Yoga is almost a thousand years back. Even the wadhavni rasam which is similar to Aarti was introduced during SMB's time and not by earlier Dais.

LFT
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by LFT » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:17 pm

Also, the yoga campaign is very strong but only in India. Havent heard anything about it where I live - maybe others can correct if this is not true for their jurisdiction..This is contrary to the uniform policies applied globally for all other things.

Therefore, motive is certainly questionable.

SBM
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by SBM » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:47 pm

Dawedar
What exactly is Yoga--Meditation right
so if you pray Namaz (Tahajjud) and recite Quran, is not that also a form of Meditation?

bohrabhai
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:00 pm

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Full jamea going to pune by train

I don't know what is going on. Muffadal bhai was 15 days ago was in surat. And he gave deedar saraf, jiyafat saraf, hidayat saraf, weaz saraf.. Now he called all Jamea students to pune for which purpose?

What about studies?

Al-Noor
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:54 pm

What about studies?
Bhai these days jamiya is filled with only rich kids and they have good money, they dont care studies. moreover most of them will be thrown out after 4th standard....and on top mufaddal needs crowd where ever he goes.
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dawedaar
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by dawedaar » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:12 am

Yes, studying in jamea these days is a fad. It is a status symbol to show off among abdes to get their kids into jamea. Talent or aptitude to excel is not a criteria. If u have right connections, then u get a seat.
Al-Noor wrote:
What about studies?
Bhai these days jamiya is filled with only rich kids and they have good money, they dont care studies, moreover most of them will be thrown out after 4th standard....and on top mufaddal needs crowd where ever he goes.

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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:34 am

Al-Noor wrote:well actually this is important for muslemin to understand this subject so they dont fall in modern age trap.

Knowledge is all what is required.


https://islamqa.info/en/101591
this website smacks of wahabism
i thought u were against it
u have no problem kissing alam in shia juloos, but have problem with yoga
which is more shirk?

dawedaar
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by dawedaar » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:49 pm

Well Al-Noor follows the priniciple of 'Enemy (Wahhabis) of my enemy (Abdes/Kotharis) is my friend' !
qutub_mamajiwala wrote:
this website smacks of wahabism
i thought u were against it
u have no problem kissing alam in shia juloos, but have problem with yoga
which is more shirk?

Al-Noor
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:08 pm

this website smacks of wahabism

1) what makes you think its wahabi website?

2) as long as islamic values are preserved its all Islamic.

3) why suddenly yoga came up in modi rule?

and the MOST important point IF yoga is sooooo good and beneficial why Mufaddal and his family not doing yoga, leader should first practice it isnt it? why only abdes are asked to do it? why stupid farmaans are only meant for sheepish abdes?

dawedaar
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by dawedaar » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:15 pm

Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (RA) was known to practice Yoga every morning! A yoga room was also made in Saifee Hospital long before Modi came to power... Stop equating everything to Modi rule! Congress ruled this country for more that 60 years. What good it did for the muslims? Remember, it was Rajiv Gandhi's mistake (Can be said) which saw the opening of Babri gates and eventually to its destruction!

Watch this if you have time -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr8fWjhEvLY
Al-Noor wrote:
this website smacks of wahabism

1) what makes you think its wahabi website?

2) as long as islamic values are preserved its all Islamic.

3) why suddenly yoga came up in modi rule?

and the MOST important point IF yoga is sooooo good and beneficial why Mufaddal and his family not doing yoga, leader should first practice it isnt it? why only abdes are asked to do it? why stupid farmaans are only meant for sheepish abdes?
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Al-Noor
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by Al-Noor » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:17 pm

I do know most yoga practices are neutral and nothing to do with religion, but there are many things which need to understand, example surya namazskar is purely worship of sun, and to be honest for a muslim NAMAZ is best of all...preach people to start praying full namaz instead of wasting time in yoga.

Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (RA) was known to practice Yoga every morning! A yoga room was also made in Saifee Hospital long before Modi came to power...


if this is so why no bohra heard of doing yoga, do you have any picture to back your claim? bohras should have start doing yoga after fajr namaz instead of Quran khatam. nauzobillah

this is purely political bro, kothar dont care about your health, he just got orders from modi to do some tricks so modi can publish pics and gain more popularity.
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dawedaar
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by dawedaar » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:30 pm

Come on, you are making a mountain out of a molehill... You are taking a simple thing too far... You say, they should preach people to start praying namaaz, well they do it in all bayaans. Speaking of Surya Namaskar, it is just an exercise. A lot of common things are mentioned in Hindu vedas like nutrition and food. So should we stop eating all food that is mentioned in their vedas? Grow up! Stop behaving like the stupid Wahhabis!
Al-Noor wrote:I do know most yoga practices are neutral and nothing to do with religion, but there are many things which need to understand, example surya namazskar is purely worship of sun, and to be honest for a muslim NAMAZ is best of all...preach people to start praying full namaz instead of wasting time in yoga.

Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (RA) was known to practice Yoga every morning! A yoga room was also made in Saifee Hospital long before Modi came to power...


if this is so why no bohra heard of doing yoga, do you have any picture to back your claim? bohras should have start doing yoga after fajr namaz instead of Quran khatam. nauzobillah

zinger
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by zinger » Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:55 am

dawedaar wrote:Come on, you are making a mountain out of a molehill... You are taking a simple thing too far... You say, they should preach people to start praying namaaz, well they do it in all bayaans. Speaking of Surya Namaskar, it is just an exercise. A lot of common things are mentioned in Hindu vedas like nutrition and food. So should we stop eating all food that is mentioned in their vedas? Grow up! Stop behaving like the stupid Wahhabis!
Al-Noor wrote:I do know most yoga practices are neutral and nothing to do with religion, but there are many things which need to understand, example surya namazskar is purely worship of sun, and to be honest for a muslim NAMAZ is best of all...preach people to start praying full namaz instead of wasting time in yoga.



if this is so why no bohra heard of doing yoga, do you have any picture to back your claim? bohras should have start doing yoga after fajr namaz instead of Quran khatam. nauzobillah
Daawedaar, you are wasting your time trying to rid people of their pet conspiracy theories.

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Future of Dawoodi Bohras

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:48 pm

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