Bank job

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Re: Bank job

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:28 pm

Ibrat wrote:he wont remain bekaaar for too long, he left job because he didnt wanted to work in a place were haram interest is dealt
What about the various properties rented out by the Dai and his henchmen to Banks which in your own words is a place where haram interest is dealt with ? How does the Dai make the rent that he receives from "Haram Interest" a Halal rent ? And what about the liquor shops situated in his Glamour building at Colaba from where he receives rental incomes ?

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Re: Bank job

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:36 pm

A Bohra gentleman, Mr. Abbas Qutbuddin Poonawala of Godhra files Police Complaint against Jamat authorities after he was forced to resign from his bank job :-

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Re: Bank job

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:46 pm

The above mentioned letter states as follows :-

DHAARMIK KATTARWAAD NO BHOG BANELO ABBAS.

Date: 12.11.2014.

I.G.P. Saheb,
IGP Office,
Baroda.

Maaru naam Abbas Qutbuddin Poonawala u.w. pukht dhando. Bekaar rahe. Bohra cottage, Aamli Faliya, Godhra,

Aaj roj maara dharm na saugandh par jaaher janata ne janava maangu chhu ke hu Dawoodi Bohra samaj na garib parivar ma thi aav chhu jeni chhabi beeja samaj ma ek pragati sheel - dhandadaari vinay viveki samaj ni chhe. Parantu chhela 5 varas thi vadhu samay ma samaj ni chhabi dhaarmik kattarwaad taraf badlaai rahi chhe . Jeno bhog hu aaje banelo chhu. Maari aap veeti aap samaksh janaava nu kaaran ek aj chhe ke maari saathe thayu tevu beeja vyakti saathe na thaai.

The Godhra Urban Co-operative Bank Ltd. Godhra ma hu chhella (4) varas thi pataawala tarike maasik Rs.12,000 na pagaar thi naukri karto hato. Aasre 1.5 mahina pehla Dawoodi Bohra samaj na Dhaarmik Kattarwaadi bani bethela aage vaano ma Shk Yusufbhai Bhikapurwala (Maamo)jeo "Quartez India" naam ni patthar ni factory chalaave chhe tatha temni patni Shama Bhikapurwala tatha Abbas Yusufbhai Bhikapurwala jeo Raj Mineral naam ni patthar ni factory chalaave chhe tatha Dubai ma pan aa banne aagevano na mota paaye kaam kaaj chhe. Temaj Zeniben Bhikapurwala (Boss) jeo varsho sudhi sarakaari kacheri o ma naukri kari nivrat Aa chaare Bhikapurwala no toli ye mane Yusufbhai Bhikapurwala na ghare bolaavi Janab Amil sahib ne tya lai gayela hata tatha maari paase thi Arabic ma lakhela amuk kagalo upar sahi (signature) lidhi hati ane nakki karva ma aavyu hatu ke The Godhra Urban Co=operative Bank Ltd, Godhra ma thi raajinaamu aape to hame tamne dhando karva maate Rs.10,00,000 rokda aapi su. Aa pralobhno ma aavi jai ne hu e maara chairman tatha committee member ne kahyu ke hu dhandho karva maangu chhu to tamo e kahyu ke jo tu dhandho karva maangto hoi to ghani saari vaat chhe hame taaru raajinaamu manjur kari aapi su . Aam hu e aa logo ni vaat maani raajinaamu aapi raajinaamu ni copy lai hu aaj din sudhi aa aagevano ne tya tatha Janab Amil sahib ne tya agrit dhakka khaai shaaririk tatha maansik reete thaaki gayo chhu tem chhata aa logo mane nakki karela rupiya aapta nathi ke koi jagya ye mane naukri pan aapta nathi jethi kari hu maaru gujraan chalaavi saku. Maare ek 7 varas no putra chhe maari jode rahe chhe teno bharan poshan ni jawabdaari tatha bhanvaano khharcho neeche hu dabaai gayo chhu. Hu e aa dhaarmik kattarwaadi aagevano ne kahyu ke tame mane aa pagaar e tamaari factory kaame lagaavi do athva to maare Dubai mokli aapo to aa chaare aagevano maari jode jaane hu achhut hoi tevo vehvaar kare chhe. Hu Janab Amil sahib ne malyo vistaar aa Vishay vaat kari temaj maaro putra Saifiyah Madressa je hamaaro samaj sanchaalit kare chhe e school ma Rs.4,500 fee baaki pade chhe tema raahat kari aapva nu kahyu to teo ye pan mane naa paadi didhi. Aam aa dhaarmik kattarwaad toli o ye mane aapna samaj ma bank ma naukri karvi e dharm tatha Islam na virudh chhe jo tamne swarg ma jaavu hoi to naukri ma thi raajinaamu aapi do tevi dhaarmik sahanubhuti na moja ma khechi lai maari jode dago karyo chhe. Aaje maaru saambhal naar koi nathi hu khaas Bohra samaj na dar ek vyakti ne kahu chhu ke aava dabhi dhaarmik kattarwaadi, dhongi samaj sevak o ni vaat ma aavso nahi, nahi to tamne pan samaj ma swamaan ni zindagi chhodi maari jem bheekh maangva no waqt aavse.

IGP sahib ne maari namr vinanti chhe ke aap aap sahib aapna keemti samay ma thi thodo samay faalvi maara patra upar dhyaan aapi maara jeva sekdo karmchaari aava dhaarmik kattarwaad, dhongi aagevano no bhog na bane te maate samaj ma bani bethela dhongi aagevano par kadak kaarvaahi karso ji.

Bhavishya ma aarthik sanklaaman ni paristithi ma temaj maansik tanaav ni stithi ma hu maara putra saathe ajugatu paglu bharu to tena jawabdaar uprokt janaavela aagevano rahe se je hu atyaar thi jaaher karu chhu.

Fari thi vinanti ke maara patra upar dhyaan aapi mane nyaay male ane beeji sampradaai na aagevanu maari zindagi saathe thayel ghatna ne Zor-Shor thi vakhodi ane patrakaaro jeo ma paardarshita nu sthaan sarvochay sthaane hoi chhe teo potana ahevaal ma prakashit kari samajik seva nibhaave tevi maari araj chhe.

Sd/-

(Abbas Poonawala)

Nakal ravaana :

1. Gruh Mantri, Gandhinagar.
2. D.G.P. Saheb, Ahmedabad.
3. D.S.P. Saheb, Godhra.
4. P.I. Sri, B Division, Godhra.
5. Human Rights Commission, Ahmedabad.
6. Human Rights Commission, Delhi.

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Re: Bank job

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Unread post by haqniwaat » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:42 pm

Very sad - at least they should have offered him another job somewhere else if they wanted him to quit his bank job. Better to work in a bank than be an aamil of muffy and end up in hell!

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Re: Bank job

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:17 am

Can someone send this letter to NaMo...

My ignorance I don't speak fluent Gujarati

Can someone explain how does the jammat force someone to leave his job...what I read seems he was conned and his son was kind of expelled from school.

why do the community members fall into such traps...really the poor are so gullible

I dont know how the police will help him...Police cannot force jammat to give him money or find him another job.

I am worried the guy should be put on suicide watch...

I have PMed the Admin and GM Bhai what options to help the child...

Such victims need the reformists or Fatemi Dawat to support in money and kind as they have stood up against the oppression ..such messages should flood the Whats App...

Haqniwat send messages to the top leaders in SKQ to intervene in this victims situation..

If after all this the victim should not go back to SMS ...i know after reading this SMS will beat us to the intervention ...what ever the if the victim benefits problems solved..

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Re: Bank job

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Unread post by haqniwaat » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:11 am

Ozdundee Bhai,
I have forwarded it. I cannot read Gujarati script but I'm guessing he needs help according to you all.

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Re: Bank job

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Nov 22, 2014 5:17 pm

Ozdundee wrote:Can someone explain how does the jammat force someone to leave his job
The same way that the Talibans force people to adhere to their diktats.
Ozdundee wrote:why do the community members fall into such traps...
There are basically 2 types of fears drilled into their minds, a) Nikah cannot be performed by anyone except a Bohra Amil designated by the Dai. b) To bury a Bohra in a non-bohra qabrastan is a serious taboo for them. They manipulate these fears and based on it exploit the followers squeezing their last drop of blood. If only the Bohras would read Quran with translation they would never succumb to such fear psychosis as nowhere in the Quran does Allah (swt) issues such commands.
Ozdundee wrote:I dont know how the police will help him...
Police can definitely help the guy that's if at all the police is serious of doing so. The money and muscle power of the Dai coupled with political connections makes it very difficult for bohras to fight back.
Ozdundee wrote:I have PMed the Admin and GM Bhai what options to help the child
My post was a watsup message which is doing rounds in Bohra circles and I personally don't know the victim, probably someone residing in Godhra could be in a better position to help him.
Ozdundee wrote:such messages should flood the Whats App...
As mentioned earlier, the message is definitely doing rounds on watsup.

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Re: Bank job

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:49 pm

it would be so easy for someone with guts if they had been cheated like this out of their only source of livelihood. round up a few of your friends, go to the amil's house and threaten him with dire consequences if he does not provide the promised loan.

take an extremely menacing tone, indirectly imply physical violence or raising a hue and cry and involving unsavoury elements, then see how the amil pukes up the money.

but this is a just pipe dream for a community emasculated and enslaved to the point of becoming totally impotent.

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Re: Bank job

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:14 pm

This is a photograph of Zampa Bazar area (Near Devri), Surat. The ATM centre of ICICI Bank seen in the background was inaugurated some years back by the then Amil, Syed-ul-Kher (Son of Yusuf Najmuddin and Saala of Muffy) and then they have the audacity to say that income derived from Banks is haram as it deals in interest. Sheer hypocrisy of Kothar !!

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