Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)

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Bohra spring
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:47 pm

Reformist should not character assassinate SKQ

Instead we should thank Allah that such a chance dropped from the tree and we need to quickly make use of it else it will go off

We need him to fight the devil for us

It is in our strategic integrates to nurture his ambition

With SKQ we can take on SMS and hope for results soon

The least we will get is wounded lame Insecure SMS or SKQ who we can tolerate

Bohra spring
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:58 pm

Hurr great talent

Hurr should be permenantly hired by the Admin for his ability to use cartoons

Picture says a thousand words

Humsafar
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by Humsafar » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:06 pm

hurr,
If you support the SKQ camp, you should be careful how you portray the other side. Lampooning Muffadal and his crew might backfire. The SKQ camp has so far dealt with the whole thing in a dignified manner, and maybe it is not their strategy to ridicule and insult the other side. If you do this it will reflect badly on them, and damage their high moral ground. Work with them, not against them.

hurr
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by hurr » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:08 pm

Bohra spring wrote:Hurr great talent

Hurr should be permenantly hired by the Admin for his ability to use cartoons

Picture says a thousand words
Bro BS, I hope that was not sarcastic. There is no talent actually, just go to memegenerator.com and you can print yourself from hundreds of templates available. Btw as you might have guessed, Hurr is not my real name, it is just a fake one to secure my real identity. You can call me that for now.

hurr
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by hurr » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:13 pm

Humsafar wrote:hurr,
If you support the SKQ camp, you should be careful how you portray the other side. Lampooning Muffadal and his crew might backfire. The SKQ camp has so far dealt with the whole thing in a dignified manner, and maybe it is not their strategy to ridicule and insult the other side. If you do this it will reflect badly on them, and damage their high moral ground. Work with them, not against them.
Got your point. What about lampooning both sides and, as I said earlier, create a level playing field? Most abdes won't speak up because their moula is larger than life figure for them. if we could make this figure just a tad bit less shinier, less venerable, what could be said about their faith?

Humsafar
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by Humsafar » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:22 pm

From my experience fanatics of any type have no appreciation for humour. Actually you may end up alienating them, and they will hate you more than before. The whole thing may prove counter-productive, unless you can be really creative and can tread the thin line without hurting their sensibilities.

hurr
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by hurr » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:24 pm

Humsafar wrote:From my experience fanatics of any type have no appreciation for humour. Actually you may end up alienating them, and they will hate you more than before. The whole thing may prove counter-productive, unless you can be really creative and can tread the thin line without hurting their sensibilities.
Hmmm, seems we need a genuine satire. Nope, I don't have the talent to do it. I will try with dry humour and sarcasm, what do I have to lose anyway?

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

#368

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:40 pm

Farman e aali che :

Koi bhi Huzurala TUS na Akhbar ya Dawat na related koi bhi message ya photos, sms, ya whatsapp, ya KOI bhi shakelat si na mokle.

Official msg Alvazara​a​t ya ITS si mokalwama awse.

KOI EK BHI MUMIN AA FARMAAN NI MUKHALAFAT NA KARE.

Idaratut Ta'reef al Shakhsi (ITS)

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

#369

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:46 pm

Bro Insaf/ Bro Humsafar,

Is there a possibility of the reformist group filing a PIL (Public Interest Litigation) wherein you manage to get a stay on ALL Dawat properties and trusts as the same are legally under control of a Dai and there is an open dispute in this regard ? The ultimate weapon against these mafias is 'Money' and if you succeed then it will be like hitting them below the belt, this would also help the community in safeguarding their wealth !!

rajab
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by rajab » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:46 pm

I have been inundated with Whatsapp messages like this for the past few days... effigies, emails and now adverts - so much money wasted on egoism.

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ghulam muhammed
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:48 pm

Muffy's PR machinery at work :-

Even the condolence messages contain Muffy's photographs !!!

Sikander
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by Sikander » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:02 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:Muffy's PR machinery at work :-

Even the condolence messages contain Muffy's photographs !!!
muffy's pic in condolence message shows, muffy is ethically dead as well.

exploitedpocket
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

#373

Unread post by exploitedpocket » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:02 pm

Google Wikipedia search isn't showing list of Dawoodi Bohra Dais.

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:07 pm

Bohras are waiting for the Hidden Imam to come out and decide :-

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Sikander
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by Sikander » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:07 pm

to be very very honest ( and I am known to speak truth), reformists are dead brain as well, they have already published in condolence message that mufy is 53rd dai, I mean they have been waiting to get rid of this parasite from years and now when time comes they start singing ghanu jivo for mufy?

this is height of stupidity.

no wonder they have miserably fail to achive any thing in last 40 years. I am sorry but some body need to tell you guys the truth.
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ghulam muhammed
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:12 pm

Watsup msg :-

Let this then me known that the more Syedna Qutbuddin is vilified the more he will be loved. The more he is abused, the greater is his maqaam. He was named Qutbuddin to continue the TRUE legacy of Syedna Taher Saifuddin and Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA ! Jey haq na sahib par laanat pare ye laanat khud ehna par wales.

www.FatemiDawat.com

Sent on behalf of Qutbuddin Mola TUS

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rajab
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by rajab » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:20 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:Bohras are waiting for the Hidden Imam to come out and decide :-

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A translation please, for the less educated amongst us (other than your title).

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:47 pm

rajab wrote:A translation please, for the less educated amongst us (other than your title).
"Bohra Community believes that the decision to nominate their leader is done as per instructions of Imam and it is he who will settle the dispute between the 2 warring factions. It is Bohra's belief that Imam is infallible and the topic of discussion is that the Imam will come out of purdah and decide. Now Bohra community is waiting for the Imam to come out of hiding."

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:57 pm

Inheritance of throne and claim to property/wealth has always been a problem in many cases, even between 2 brothers in a small family so its no surprise that the family of late Taher Saifuddin saab who had 24 children which eventually multiplied in hundreds faces this issue. Moreover it is a question of billions of dollars stacked in the dungeons of Saifee Mahal and various tax havens !! Now who will want to forego this enormous wealth which comes with power and hordes of slaves who are 'Jaan, maal se qurban' on their leader !! Ultimately it zeroes down to money, money and money, the drama of Nass, Ilhm of hidden Imam and Haq na Dai etc etc. is all hogwash meant to fool the already braindead abdes.

Mazakyo
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by Mazakyo » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:49 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:
rajab wrote:A translation please, for the less educated amongst us (other than your title).
"Bohra Community believes that the decision to nominate their leader is done as per instructions of Imam and it is he who will settle the dispute between the 2 warring factions. It is Bohra's belief that Imam is infallible and the topic of discussion is that the Imam will come out of purdah and decide. Now Bohra community is waiting for the Imam to come out of hiding."

I wonder if the Imam came out when Sulaimanis seperated, when Alavis seperated, when Hujumiya group seperated, when Hibtias seperated, and when the 48rs seperated ????

seeker110
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

#382

Unread post by seeker110 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:26 pm

He did when Moses separated the Red Sea.

Maqbool
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

#383

Unread post by Maqbool » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:07 am

I got news that one prominent member of Akberallys' group has joint SKQ.
GM cal put more light on this news.

hurr
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by hurr » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:29 am

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asad
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by asad » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:37 am

Hurr you can open a new thread for meme's. one already exists viewtopic.php?f=9&t=8518

Aymelek
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by Aymelek » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:51 am

subcon111 wrote:The Fatemi Dawat website has been planned in advance. It is not possible to put something like this together overnight.
This website was registered in November 2013, the whole setup seems of USA.
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Yemeni
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by Yemeni » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:58 am

Can anyone give me any link or something in Arabic from The Mufadali camp .. I got the idea from Khuzaima camp but I can not get anything in Arabic from The Mufadli side .. Followers here in Yemen needs info. in Arabic ...

Aymelek
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by Aymelek » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:03 am

This is the facebook page of Khuzema saheb's son:

Aziz & Abdeali
https://www.facebook.com/aqutbuddin
https://www.facebook.com/abdeali.qutbuddin

white_pigeon
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by white_pigeon » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:28 am

Yemeni wrote:Can anyone give me any link or something in Arabic from The Mufadali camp .. I got the idea from Khuzaima camp but I can not get anything in Arabic from The Mufadli side .. Followers here in Yemen needs info. in Arabic ...
I dont think there is any info or clarification from their side apart from foul language on SKQ.

Sikander
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Re: Khuzema bhaisaheb Qutbuddin is 53rd dai

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Unread post by Sikander » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:31 am

Yemeni wrote:Can anyone give me any link or something in Arabic from The Mufadali camp .. I got the idea from Khuzaima camp but I can not get anything in Arabic from The Mufadli side .. Followers here in Yemen needs info. in Arabic ...
Arabic?

do you really think in all those ayyashi they ever got time to learn arabic and write some thing useful for community?