The legacy of Sayedna Mohammed Burhanuddin

[fustrate_Bohra]

Me think those snaps are morphed. I dont think they will click such photo and the way they are posing it seems the photographer is fmly member whom they can trust of not to leak such pics.

[level_headed]

Be it known that misaals from Dawat-e-Hadiya to jamaats worldwide were conceived, written, edited and mulled over by miscreants working under guise of khidmat under Burhanuddin Maula's reign. . . rarely did Aqa Maula himself mull over and dictate text of misaal sharifa.

when you say something is Official from Dai's Office - be aware that Dai's office was hijacked by self-interest from a small group of bullys and big wigs in the likes of Kalimuddin sahib, Hakimuddin Saheb and BJ Mudreka, etc etc., starting 20-30 years ago. USed to be they couldn't and wouldn't manipulate Abbasbhai sahib and Shabbirbhai sahib until after wafaat. Now they are under siege, like the rest of Saifee mahal and badri mahal who are fearful of their lives and families if they dare to question SMS. If you think the regular mumin is under pressure from kothar,, you are clueless about the reality. Even the word "Kothar" these days is meaningless, because there really is no "one" color in Kothar... there are many colors and hues.

KQ and his gang are attacking Syedna Burhanuddin RA directly. TB is also mentioning in his speeches that Syedna Burhanuddin lost control of his dawat in the last 20-30 years. Alam is alos parroting that. They are accusing Syedna Burhanuddin RA of negligence saying "rarely did Aqa Maula himself mull over and dictate text of misaal sharifa. ". They are saying he did not do anything when his office got hijacked and he let things be and lost control of his office.
Oh, that is the reason why KQ used to praise Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA a lot but would hardly mention Syedna Burhanuddin RA because Taher Saifuddin Maula "used to mull over and dictate text of misaal sharifa" but Burhanuddin Maula would not. Makes sense that Syedna Taher Saifuddin was a better daii than Syedna Burhanuddin (according to KQLA). KQ must have been thinking that Syedna Taher Saifuddin made a mistake - he should have put strong KQ as his successor after Syedna Taher Saifuddin . He would have led the dawat to great heights when his zubaan was intact. Aaje to KQ no wo haal chhe ke jyaare bole chhe to Abu Bakr ane Amul Butter ma farak samaj nathi padhto. His sermons are like tamil movies with sub-titling below. Chalo dont worry KQ - aavta janam ma tu saanp no sardar banse .

[haqniwaat]

Why don't you say it like you and mufaddal bs think it - Syedna Burhanuddin made a mistake by creating Syedna Qutbuddin his mazoon.

[UnhappyBohra]

Be it known that misaals from Dawat-e-Hadiya to jamaats worldwide were conceived, written, edited and mulled over by miscreants working under guise of khidmat under Burhanuddin Maula's reign. . . rarely did Aqa Maula himself mull over and dictate text of misaal sharifa.

when you say something is Official from Dai's Office - be aware that Dai's office was hijacked by self-interest from a small group of bullys and big wigs in the likes of Kalimuddin sahib, Hakimuddin Saheb and BJ Mudreka, etc etc., starting 20-30 years ago. USed to be they couldn't and wouldn't manipulate Abbasbhai sahib and Shabbirbhai sahib until after wafaat. Now they are under siege, like the rest of Saifee mahal and badri mahal who are fearful of their lives and families if they dare to question SMS. If you think the regular mumin is under pressure from kothar,, you are clueless about the reality. Even the word "Kothar" these days is meaningless, because there really is no "one" color in Kothar... there are many colors and hues.

KQ and his gang are attacking Syedna Burhanuddin RA directly. TB is also mentioning in his speeches that Syedna Burhanuddin lost control of his dawat in the last 20-30 years. Alam is alos parroting that. They are accusing Syedna Burhanuddin RA of negligence saying "rarely did Aqa Maula himself mull over and dictate text of misaal sharifa. ". They are saying he did not do anything when his office got hijacked and he let things be and lost control of his office.
Oh, that is the reason why KQ used to praise Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA a lot but would hardly mention Syedna Burhanuddin RA because Taher Saifuddin Maula "used to mull over and dictate text of misaal sharifa" but Burhanuddin Maula would not. Makes sense that Syedna Taher Saifuddin was a better daii than Syedna Burhanuddin (according to KQLA). KQ must have been thinking that Syedna Taher Saifuddin made a mistake - he should have put strong KQ as his successor after Syedna Taher Saifuddin . He would have led the dawat to great heights when his zubaan was intact. Aaje to KQ no wo haal chhe ke jyaare bole chhe to Abu Bakr ane Amul Butter ma farak samaj nathi padhto. His sermons are like tamil movies with sub-titling below. Chalo dont worry KQ - aavta janam ma tu saanp no sardar banse .

Here's the funny thing. I have listened to SKQ's bayans and vasilas for the last 8 months and I can tell you that there is no truth in what you say. SKQ has never uttered SMB's name but with the utmost humility and walvalo. Everyone has access to all those audios now buddy. Your lies won't fly here. As for the videos with sub-titles, they are far better than the mad rants that MS tries to pass off as bayans. The sub-titles reflect the concern of a Dai that his followers receive his message. The language you have used reflects your hate. It's people like you that have compelled people like me to become frequent visitors of the Fatemi Dawat website. We are everywhere in your masjids and markazes but we don't advertise the fact.

[zinger]

Be it known that misaals from Dawat-e-Hadiya to jamaats worldwide were conceived, written, edited and mulled over by miscreants working under guise of khidmat under Burhanuddin Maula's reign. . . rarely did Aqa Maula himself mull over and dictate text of misaal sharifa.

when you say something is Official from Dai's Office - be aware that Dai's office was hijacked by self-interest from a small group of bullys and big wigs in the likes of Kalimuddin sahib, Hakimuddin Saheb and BJ Mudreka, etc etc., starting 20-30 years ago. USed to be they couldn't and wouldn't manipulate Abbasbhai sahib and Shabbirbhai sahib until after wafaat. Now they are under siege, like the rest of Saifee mahal and badri mahal who are fearful of their lives and families if they dare to question SMS. If you think the regular mumin is under pressure from kothar,, you are clueless about the reality. Even the word "Kothar" these days is meaningless, because there really is no "one" color in Kothar... there are many colors and hues.

KQ and his gang are attacking Syedna Burhanuddin RA directly. TB is also mentioning in his speeches that Syedna Burhanuddin lost control of his dawat in the last 20-30 years. Alam is alos parroting that. They are accusing Syedna Burhanuddin RA of negligence saying "rarely did Aqa Maula himself mull over and dictate text of misaal sharifa. ". They are saying he did not do anything when his office got hijacked and he let things be and lost control of his office.
Oh, that is the reason why KQ used to praise Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA a lot but would hardly mention Syedna Burhanuddin RA because Taher Saifuddin Maula "used to mull over and dictate text of misaal sharifa" but Burhanuddin Maula would not. Makes sense that Syedna Taher Saifuddin was a better daii than Syedna Burhanuddin (according to KQLA). KQ must have been thinking that Syedna Taher Saifuddin made a mistake - he should have put strong KQ as his successor after Syedna Taher Saifuddin . He would have led the dawat to great heights when his zubaan was intact. Aaje to KQ no wo haal chhe ke jyaare bole chhe to Abu Bakr ane Amul Butter ma farak samaj nathi padhto. His sermons are like tamil movies with sub-titling below. Chalo dont worry KQ - aavta janam ma tu saanp no sardar banse .

i suggest you take a look at what your name is... level_headed... and then make your posts. right now, your head seems most un-level. sorry if this sounds like a personal attack, its not, its just a suggestion

[Moiz_Dhaanu]

KQ and his gang are attacking Syedna Burhanuddin RA directly. TB is also mentioning in his speeches that Syedna Burhanuddin lost control of his dawat in the last 20-30 years. Alam is alos parroting that. They are accusing Syedna Burhanuddin RA of negligence saying "rarely did Aqa Maula himself mull over and dictate text of misaal sharifa. ". They are saying he did not do anything when his office got hijacked and he let things be and lost control of his office.
Oh, that is the reason why KQ used to praise Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA a lot but would hardly mention Syedna Burhanuddin RA because Taher Saifuddin Maula "used to mull over and dictate text of misaal sharifa" but Burhanuddin Maula would not. Makes sense that Syedna Taher Saifuddin was a better daii than Syedna Burhanuddin (according to KQLA). KQ must have been thinking that Syedna Taher Saifuddin made a mistake - he should have put strong KQ as his successor after Syedna Taher Saifuddin . He would have led the dawat to great heights when his zubaan was intact. Aaje to KQ no wo haal chhe ke jyaare bole chhe to Abu Bakr ane Amul Butter ma farak samaj nathi padhto. His sermons are like tamil movies with sub-titling below. Chalo dont worry KQ - aavta janam ma tu saanp no sardar banse .

Mr.Level_headed
I had posted this sometime back in reply to some arrogant and pathetic cheap Abde like yourself.
But since it fits you well too ..why dont you read it too

Now with a calm mind, just go over your above post and you will realise what filthy language you are accustomed to using. Just goes to show what happens to someone(like you) when they attend ShzMS speeches(i dont think they are worth to be called waaz).
You sound just like your master (full of hate and venom)
In fact the repetative and belligerent tone of your post, indicate that you really have peaked in your immaturity and foul character.


Secondly
Since you consider yourself a "Gulam of ShzMS"..you should know that in order for you to qualify for that you and your family must have fulfilled the below list of farman-e-aali . Have you already accomplshed these below farmaan-e-aali ?

1)You should have tied your terminally-ill old father and paraded him around the shop. If that opportunity has not arisen yet then make sure that when your father gets really old , make him sit in chair for 3-4 hours even though doctor has advised him complete bed-rest. (this is what your ShzMS did to our beloved Syedna Burhanuddin moula(RA) during his last year)

2)You or your blood relatives should have absolutely no dealings with a bank..(have never used a cheque-book, in fact even never paid wajebaat via DD/Money-Order, coz DD requires you to interact with a Bank, which your moula is against)

3) You and None of your kids/wife/blood relatives had or have a Facebook account.(farman-e-aali ShzMS given few years back in Cairo)

4) Going forward, you will celebrate your birthday with "over-the-moon" pomp and female family members will even put mehndi on your birthday in the year your parents pass away. (ShzMS and Qasre-ali did exactly this, so its your Farz to follow his footstep)

5) The women in the house should not learn anything except "home science", if they have already obtained any other education , then you should throw them out of the house or make them sit in one corner of the house (what a stupid farmaan..lol)

6) Never have send or will send your boys for further education in any western country , since ShzMS has ,on many public occasion, shown his disapproval to wannabe students from attending western universities.

7) Both male and female members in your family have taken or have started taking roti-making lessons dilligently(no excuses) , or else even your ShzMS wont be able to take you into Jannat (ShMS himself has started taking classes and we have seen pictures of him doing that)

8 ) You agree not to go to Haj or any other ziarat, nor will yo do Nikah, nor will you bury your Dead(Raza will not be granted) , if you do not take FMB thaali. You may be dying of Blood pressure or Diabetes, but you still will only eat Thaali Food(no matter how unhealthy or bad-tasting)

9) You will allow corruption and looting(infact reward those who do bad-behaviour), and turn a Blind-eye to all nasty things going on in your home and business. Since ShzMS does exactly same in his dawat ,and expects his followers to do the same.

10) Have always worn a helmet when riding a two wheeler , and should continue doing so(farman-e-aali ShzMS given few years back )

So accordingly, if you have'nt already abided or are unwilling to abide by these above things in the future , then first you should do ziyafat in swimming pool, and ask for forgiveness from ShzMS , and only then can you call yourself "gulam of Mufaddal Maula"
Then after taking raza and khushi come back with a "Bent spine" back to this forum. Please bring a certified copy from Al-vazaarat that you have successfully done the above list of things.

May you get Taufeek from above to carry out these steps

P.S. I apologise to all other readers for reposting it ..but since this post lists out all dumb things about Shz MS..its befitting to let the abdes read it again and see what a mockery of our great community has been made by Shz MZ , Shz QJ and their dumb Abdes.

[level_headed]

What a deathly silence. The dogs are barking here and there and throwing up one smoke screen after another.
No one is talking about - Was Burhanuddin Maula so negligent and so weak that he left the dawat floundering ? WHY IS NO ONE DEFENDING BURHANUDDIN MAULA - BY JUST SAYING BELOVED BURHANUDDIN MAULA IS NO DEFENSE ?

[kimanumanu]

The silence of Syedna Burhanuddin RA spoke volumes far louder than all the drama that was staged. I have listened to the clear audio recording of the Raudat Tahera nass episode and despite being given a paper to read, he refused and instead kept saying "Mohammed naam chhe" and "Mohammed bhai ne" despite Dr. Moiz prompting him to say "Mufaddal" to the extent that Dr. Moiz snatched the mic away and read the paper himself.

[haqniwaat]

The likes of level headed and mufaddal bs followers are nothing more than terrorists full of hatred. Every sentence they spew is full of hate. How sad. Love conquers, not hate.

[UnhappyBohra]

What a deathly silence. The dogs are barking here and there and throwing up one smoke screen after another.
No one is talking about - Was Burhanuddin Maula so negligent and so weak that he left the dawat floundering ? WHY IS NO ONE DEFENDING BURHANUDDIN MAULA - BY JUST SAYING BELOVED BURHANUDDIN MAULA IS NO DEFENSE ?

Was Rasulullah SAW so weak that he left his Ummat floundering? A handful were left with Ali AS after his death. Was Syedna Dawood bin Ajab Shah so weak that he left his Dawat floundering? The majority of Mumineen of the time including Syedna's entire family flocked with Suleiman. If you were really level_headed your arguments would have some merit. Throughout history, there have been numerous incidents when a few have been on haq and a majority have strayed. Hats of to the minority who have taken the stand in support of Burhanuddin Moula's real mansoos. I look forward to the day when I can join them openly.

[Moiz_Dhaanu]

What a deathly silence. The dogs are barking here and there and throwing up one smoke screen after another.
No one is talking about - Was Burhanuddin Maula so negligent and so weak that he left the dawat floundering ? WHY IS NO ONE DEFENDING BURHANUDDIN MAULA - BY JUST SAYING BELOVED BURHANUDDIN MAULA IS NO DEFENSE ?

Mr. Level_head
You are in such a pathetic mode of denial . If you think any of the above points i listed are smoke screen, then why dont you bring on the letter head of dawat-e-hadiyah that each point was never conveyed or that act never performed by ShzMS and his couterie.
Oh wait probably they might give you that ...what else can you expect from them , who on one side shower their laanats and on the other hand in court (that too under pledge) they say they have not showered laanats...what a chameleon kind of characteristics

[level_headed]

I cannot understand the rationale of Admin to merge my post into the Bohri SMS duniya post. I created a new post to find out why Qutbis are not defending Burhanuddin Maula. Merging this into the main post will get my question diluted with tons of Bohri SMS postings. Requesting the admin to undo what he did

[kimanumanu]

First try to explain why he needs defending?

[SKQ Fan]

Brother level headed to reply to your post we all have seen how Burhanuddin Moula was being manipulated and forced to do things against his will by his avaricious and ambitious sons after his stroke. Regarding your making fun of our Sayedna Qutbuddin please note that morons like you will never understand what he talks of because he talks of imparting ilm and sense and Muffadalis like you who have become accustomed to listen to non sensical things from the Dawedar Muffadal BS will never ever understand

[Moiz_Dhaanu]

Brother level headed to reply to your post we all have seen how Burhanuddin Moula was being manipulated and forced to do things against his will by his avaricious and ambitious sons after his stroke. Regarding your making fun of our Sayedna Qutbuddin please note that morons like you will never understand what he talks of because he talks of imparting ilm and sense and Muffadalis like you who have become accustomed to listen to non sensical things from the Dawedar Muffadal BS will never ever understand

I like the new tag given to ShzMS "Dawedaar Mufaddal BS" ...going forward i think i will mention him with that name instead of ShzMS.
Infact i urge every Non Abde to call him just that. Who gave the abdes the right to call SKQ , Dawedaar..i think the real Dawedaar is Shz MS.. Hence i will now call him Dawedaar Mufaddal BS(DMBS) it even sounds like "Dumbs" which he truly is

[alam]

Alam wrote: "Be it known that misaals from Dawat-e-Hadiya to jamaats worldwide were conceived, written, edited and mulled over by miscreants working under guise of khidmat under Burhanuddin Maula's reign. . . rarely did Aqa Maula himself mull over and dictate text of misaal sharifa.

when you say something is Official from Dai's Office - be aware that Dai's office was hijacked by self-interest from a small group of bullys and big wigs in the likes of Kalimuddin sahib, Hakimuddin Saheb and BJ Mudreka, etc etc., starting 20-30 years ago. USed to be they couldn't and wouldn't manipulate Abbasbhai sahib and Shabbirbhai sahib until after wafaat. Now they are under siege, like the rest of Saifee mahal and badri mahal who are fearful of their lives and families if they dare to question SMS. If you think the regular mumin is under pressure from kothar,, you are clueless about the reality. Even the word "Kothar" these days is meaningless, because there really is no "one" color in Kothar... there are many colors and hues.

KQ and his gang are attacking Syedna Burhanuddin RA directly. TB is also mentioning in his speeches that Syedna Burhanuddin lost control of his dawat in the last 20-30 years. Alam is alos parroting that. They are accusing Syedna Burhanuddin RA of negligence saying "rarely did Aqa Maula himself mull over and dictate text of misaal sharifa. ". They are saying he did not do anything when his office got hijacked and he let things be and lost control of his office.
Oh, that is the reason why KQ used to praise Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA a lot but would hardly mention Syedna Burhanuddin RA because Taher Saifuddin Maula "used to mull over and dictate text of misaal sharifa" but Burhanuddin Maula would not. Makes sense that Syedna Taher Saifuddin was a better daii than Syedna Burhanuddin (according to KQLA). KQ must have been thinking that Syedna Taher Saifuddin made a mistake - he should have put strong KQ as his successor after Syedna Taher Saifuddin . He would have led the dawat to great heights when his zubaan was intact. Aaje to KQ no wo haal chhe ke jyaare bole chhe to Abu Bakr ane Amul Butter ma farak samaj nathi padhto. His sermons are like tamil movies with sub-titling below. Chalo dont worry KQ - aavta janam ma tu saanp no sardar banse .

Read carefully Mr. Level Head,
Alam's attack is on the small group of bullys and big wigs in the likes of Kalimuddin sahib, Hakimuddin Saheb and BJ Mudreka, etc etc., starting 20-30 years ago. How come you misread Names of Kalimuddin, Hakimuddin etc.. . To "Burhanuddin Maula"??
Maybe it's out of habit, and auto-pilot mode, rather than an honest dyslexia, that in the name of "Burhanuddin Maula" you chose to cover-up misdeeds of others like kalimuddin, Hakimuddin, Najmuddin, BJ, QJ, MS, ETC.Z

Hmm... Far better politically to claim Attack on syedna Burhanuddin, than admit attack on Kalimuddin Hakimuddin, Najmuddin QJ, BJ, etc, etc.?

Nice try, mr level head, by twisting this.


 

[humanbeing]

Please confirm following ?

If SMB preached the haqiqi kaba theory,

Kissing duaats photo equal to kissing hajr-e-aswad

Has he mentioned an incident where, SMB and STS were standing near the kaba and when STS questioned SMB who and where is the kaba, SMB answered looking at STS and hinting “aap humara haqaiq kaba cho”
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Like always, the supremo office of kothar, the Dai’s seat occupant is given a clean chit when it comes to matter of corruption and mis-administration. All blame diverted to some one or other. It is an escapist excuse by a bohra or abde to safeguard their faith and deny the truth.

Difference in kothar management within kothar enterprises is acceptable, but these difference are limited to sharing of revenues and matter of sour grapes for those who do not get lion’s share or ayyash life style.

May I suggest to remain on topic and discuss the fact, that the did SMB have control over daawat communication or not ?

[humanbeing]

Aaje to KQ no wo haal chhe ke jyaare bole chhe to Abu Bakr ane Amul Butter ma farak samaj nathi padhto. His sermons are like tamil movies with sub-titling below. Chalo dont worry KQ - aavta janam ma tu saanp no sardar banse .

Saanp-no-sardar ! how ironic ! it is SMS who can speak to snakes, remember the mojiza of SMS – snake whisperer !

In your myopic outlook, you disregard / disrespect a person over his speech defect. Don’t forget, it is not long ago, that SMB went gibberish and mute in his last days or years. Would you ridicule that too !

[Abuzer]

Biggest achievement of SMB was that he successfully destroyed whole bohra community just because he loved his kids more than what it was prescribed to him by his father STS, he managed well to suppress mazoon and mukasir and boosting his own children every where, he successfully kept bohras illiterate about Quran and sunnah and he kept promoting himself as ultimate saviour for all bohras, he managed to keep him self clean and show all other people evil in his empire, he successfully kept his name clear from all this mess which he created.

Quite amazing isnt it?

may he find peace now (if ALLAH wish it)

[New]

AZ bhai, just go to Bhendi Bazzar in the next few days to see what people think about his legacy. The crowd would be less by 18 who were crushed. Are we go to top that figure? Why Dawoodi Bakras willing walk to the slaughter house? May be SMB was either too smart or too naive and did not know what he was doing. Whatever, he was a sweet and smooth talker. He was an effectual leader. When he asked for gold and people did give. The only smart one among his sons are QJE, muffy can not walk even a straight line with chewing gum in his mouth. Dawoodi Bakras are simply genetically programmed. My Fakniri Najwa of 2 cents.

[New]

Correction: Very ineffectual leader as shown many places on this forum. Sorry about this.

[New]

Correction: Very ineffectual leader as shown many places on this forum. Sorry about this.