Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by anajmi » Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:21 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:Image
Prophet Muhammad (saw) and Hazrat Ali were both religious heads. Are you saying they were con-artists too?
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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:22 pm

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:24 pm

anajmi wrote:Prophet Muhammad (saw) and Hazrat Ali were both religious heads. Are you saying they were con-artists too?
Not even in my wildest of dreams can I say such a thing for these true torch bearers of Islam, the saying is relevant to most of the present day religious leaders, especially MS hence the quote is on this thread.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:27 pm

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:17 pm

humanbeing wrote:Yesterday, at STS urus majlis, the amil was doling out some creative information such as :
humanbeing wrote:“Peerbhoy’s offsprings went bankcrupt fighting the cases, such was the state of their poverty, that they could not afford the tram-ticket to travel”
THIS IS AN ARTICLE BY MR.SAIFUDIN INSAF ON THE PRESENT CONDITION OF 'SIR ADAMJI PEERBHOY'S FAMILY WHICH IS TOTALLY OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE KOTHAR SAYS AND PROPOGATES ;-

Only Allah is All-Knower and Aimighty. Not even a Prophet, Imam or Dai. They are all mortal beings. Since I am a part of the reform movement I try to know the truth visa-vis Kothar's propaganda.

The members of Sir Adamji Peerbhoy family whom I know personally:-
That Allah has ruined the sons of Adamji Peerbhoy as they dared to oppose 51st Dai, Sayedna Taher Saifuddin, this propaganda is false and mischievous and to mislead the community. How can Allah who is merciful and compassionate and who has sent Qur’an with the sole purpose of radical restructuring the existing society free of injustices, exploitation and oppression, ever be against those persons who have fought against the oppressive and unjust policies of Sayedna Taher Saifuddin?

I can say this because I have personally met many members of the Peerbhoy family. I have found them quite rich, wealth-wise and property-wise even today.

I have seen their various bungalows and business establishments in India in places like Dhoraji, Matheran, Neral, Breach Candy, Gamdevi, Lohar Chawl and Churchgate. I have also met few members in Canada and USA. I have not gone to Pakistan where some of the Peerbhoy family members live in Karachi and Haiderabad.

Some of them are known as “Peerbhoy”, “Bootwalas” and “Merchant”.

I had also had the privilege of meeting Sir Adamji’s last surviving son, Mohammad Peerbhoy. He had come from Karachi and was staying with Adamji P. Peerbhoy, charter accountant at Forjett Street in Bombay.

And last two surviving daughters Rehmat bai Jani, wife of Jafar bhai Jani and Fatima bai Hathiari. They both used to stay in ‘Shanta Niketan” at Gamdevi, Bombay. Rehmat bai Jani’s son Mansoor Jani fought the famous “Sir Adamji Peerbhoy Sanatorium Case” along with Advocate Abid Merchant for more then 30 years with their own expenses which was more than a crore and half rupees, against powerful Sayedna’s establishment which wanted to demolish it and construct a commercial complex on its land. The entire credit for the huge commercial hospital that we see today in the name of “Saifee Hospital” and retaining Sir Adamji's sanatorium and his grave in the compound of the sanatorium goes to these two well-wishers of the community and humanity.

Rehmat bai Jani owns Sir Adamji’s Charlotte Bungalow at Matheran, a huge hardware shop in the name of “Jivaji Esaji Hardware Mart” in Lohar Chawl Bombay and various other properties in Neral, Kalina, Kurla.

Her daughter Mehfooza is running a charitable institute at Worli Bombay in the name of “Baap noo Ghar” and Mehfooza Bahen’s husband Saifuddin Haideri owns a Aluminum Factory and they stay in the posh area of Breach Candy at Bombay.

Akhtar P. Peerbhoy has a charter accountant firm at Marine lines Bombay and he runs a scholarship trust for college students in the name of “Chhaberia Caritable Trust" besides managing “Sir Adamji Peerbhoy Rafiuddin Yatimkhana” at Dharol.

Mustafa P. Peerbhoy owns a big store in the fort area in Bombay in the name of “Munnu’s Jeens”.

Husain Abdul Husain Peerbhoy owns two hotels, Green Hill and Wayfare at Matheran besides running a school in Neral in the name of “Sir Adamji Peerbhoy English School”.

Likewise Ishaq Haveliwala family (Owners of “Orient Apparels” at Churchgate Bombay), Zarina Hathiari, Lukmanji Bootwala family (London, Canada), Akber Abdul Husain Peerbhoy (owner of Khatija lodge at Matheran), Arif P. Peerbhoy (Owner of a charter accountant firm), Adamji Peerbhoy (Babu bhai), Hatim Merchant family (Owns a legal firm), Mohammad Ali Merchant (Lawyer), Gulam Husain Bootwala family etc are various other members of the Sir’s family.

Since the members of the Peerbhoy family have remained quite well-off since beginning there was no reason for any one of them to go back to Sayedna’s fold.

The family members in Bombay have their own Graveyard known as “Peerbhoy Kabrastan" adjacent to Bohra Naryalwadi Kabrastan

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:25 pm

Some more on Sir Adamji Peerbhai :-

Sir Adamjee Peerbhai concentrated on the welfare work both for his own community and for general public. The amount he had spent in 19th Century must be multiplied several times to get the figure at today’s value as in those days Rs. 5 to 10 used to be the monthly income for an average decent family.

1) He distributed under his own supervision food grains worth Rs 4 lakh in 1877 among the draught affected people of Kathiwar.
2) He was illiterate but he established 27 schools and he used to spend Rs 12000 to 13000 annually to run these schools.
3) He built Rabat (rest houses) at Karbala, Mecca and Madina and he used to spend annually Rs 13000 to provide free food and the facilities to the Bohra pilgrims.
4) He built a huge sanatorium along with a mosque at the Charni Road Bombay in 1885 at the cost of Rs 3.5 lakhs. This sanatorium served as a rest house for sick persons and pilgrims for several years. He also used to run a school for Bohra orphans and a dispensary for immediate medical help here.
5) Thousands of people were affected by a devastating fire in 1886 at Burhanpur. He spent Rs 60,000 on the relief work.
6) In 1885 he started an orphanage in Kathiyawar for the Bohras on which he used to spend Rs 30,000 to 35,000 annually.
7) There was an acute draught situation in Yemen and he donated 2000 pound sterling for the relief of the affected Bohras.
8) There was again a draught in Gujarat in the year 1897 and he sent relief material worth Rs 1 lakh.
9) He also built a hospital for medical treatment of the children spending Rs 4 lakhs.
10) He donated Rs 5 lakh to establish Prince of Wails Science Institute at Alighar University.
Development of Matheran in Bombay and running a mini train there was his achievement.

It is important to note here that he paid for all these charities and development from his own hard-earned money and never collected a single paisa from the community. Sir Adamji Peerbhoy’s honesty, integrity and hard work were highly valued by the government officers.

In recognition of his splendid social welfare work he was amply awarded and recognised:

1) Title of Justice of Peace (J.P.)
2) He was made first Sheriff of Bombay in 1897.
3) The 49th Dai, Sayedna Mohammed Burhanuddin conferred title of `Rafiuddin’ on him.
4) In 1900 he was honoured by the title of `Qaisare-Hind'.
5) In 1907 he was made a knight and given the title of `Sir’ by the British Government.
6) Though an illiterate, Sir Adamji was honoured by Mohammedan Educational Conference to be its first president.

He died on 11th August 1913. The Times of India on his death wrote in a front-page editorial on 13th August 1913: “His wealth was made entirely by his own energy and persevering enterprise. He started life next to none. But as he accumulated the earnest of a hard life he showed in a marked degree that trait, which is fortunately characteristic of the modern Indian Capitalist, of generosity in devoting a portion of it to the amelioration of the lot of his fellow men … Moslems will remember him for his benefactions to their communal interests and all India is indebted to him for the splendid contribution which he made for the prosecution of scientific study at Aligarh. Government marked publicly their sense of his worth when they recommended him for Knighthood and now that he is gone we may think of him as a faithful citizen whose example it behooves his successors to emulate.”

The over ambitious and scheming Sayedna Taher Saifuddin right from beginning had started amassing wealth by hook or crook and built his own financial empire. Sir Adamji’s sons were well educated and emulated their father in public and charitable activities. Therefore Sayedna Taher Saifuddin did not take very kindly to Sir Adamji's sons activities as Sir Adamji’s and his son’s philanthropic activities far exceeded his. With Chandabhoy Galla case the Sayedna considered them as his rivals and tried to defame and alienate Sir Adamji Peerbhoy’s name. First he caught hold of ‘Peerbhoy Palace’ at Malabar Hills Bombay and converted it into Saifee Mahal, then Bohra Rabats at Karbala, Mecca and Medina, then Matheran and now Sir Adamji Peerbhoy Sanatorium, on which is now built “Saifee Hospital” on Sir Adamji Peerbhoy Sanatorium Trust’s land.

http://dawoodi-bohras.com/about_us/people/peerbhoy/

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Unread post by Truth-Prevails » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:18 am

Immedaitely sign up for begging Shz. Mufaddal Saifuddin to do vaaz in Mumbai. Interesting way to get people to be forced to sign and show that the support him.
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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:24 pm

Truth-Prevails wrote:Immedaitely sign up for begging Shz. Mufaddal Saifuddin to do vaaz in Mumbai. Interesting way to get people to be forced to sign and show that the support him.



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First he begs for support or rather forces abdes to support him by sending his henchmen at midnight to sign on the dotted line and now this signature campaign for Ashura vayez, be prepared to see more such petitions by every other jamats, thanks to his PR team !!

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:51 pm

watsup msg :-

FEW YEARS BACK A COURT HAD REPRIMANDED THE BOHRA DAI AND COMMENTED THAT "YOU ARE RUNNING A GOVERNMENT WITHIN GOVERNMENT" WHICH IS BECOMING MORE EVIDENT FROM THIS "SHOW CAUSE NOTICE" ISSUED BY HIS HENCHMEN....... JAAGO GHADERA O JAAGO, BOHRAISM IS A "BUSINESS" AND NOT A RELIGION !
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Unread post by DisillusionedDB » Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:58 am

Can somebody throw light on ...
1) What action they will take in case of non-payment ?
2) And what consequences will the defaulter have to face ?
3) And what inconvenience would he be subjected to ?

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Unread post by humanbeing » Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:27 am

DisillusionedDB wrote:1) What action they will take in case of non-payment ?
Polite follow up by a docile mullah/sheikh at home of the defaulting bohra.
Summon to report at Amil’s dewri for face to face interaction
DisillusionedDB wrote:2) And what consequences will the defaulter have to face ?
Safai Chitthi is coded RED
Blocked from using bohra facilities such as dargah resorts, jamatkhana for personal occasions.
Blocked raza for life events such as chatti, aqeeka, misaak, nisbat, nikaah, burial and fatiha
Denial to obtain rukku chitthi, which in turn; shafaa’at will be denied on judgement day.
DisillusionedDB wrote:3) And what inconvenience would he be subjected to ?
Social Boycott from the community
Breaking away from relatives
Doomed to Hell

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:06 pm

There are some strong reports that the upcoming Mohurrum vayez which will be MS' first vayez will be held in Surat. Last week, Huseina bensaab, sister of MS visited Surat twice to oversee the arrangements !! However, as usual the venue will be kept a top secret till the last moment in order to raise 'valvalo' of abdes for whom the topic of discussion will revolve around the venue, some expecting a subsidised foreign trip with hassle free visas and hoping for a destination which will be picturesque and having mega sales to enable them to pick up phoren maal at huge discounts !! Bayan and valvalo for Husain a.s. is secondary !!

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Unread post by DisillusionedDB » Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:47 am

humanbeing wrote:
DisillusionedDB wrote:1) What action they will take in case of non-payment ?
Polite follow up by a docile mullah/sheikh at home of the defaulting bohra.
Summon to report at Amil’s dewri for face to face interaction
DisillusionedDB wrote:2) And what consequences will the defaulter have to face ?
Safai Chitthi is coded RED
Blocked from using bohra facilities such as dargah resorts, jamatkhana for personal occasions.
Blocked raza for life events such as chatti, aqeeka, misaak, nisbat, nikaah, burial and fatiha
Denial to obtain rukku chitthi, which in turn; shafaa’at will be denied on judgement day.
DisillusionedDB wrote:3) And what inconvenience would he be subjected to ?
Social Boycott from the community
Breaking away from relatives
Doomed to Hell
Wow .. there is a lot of taawil in a few written words :mrgreen:

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Unread post by haqniwaat » Sat Oct 04, 2014 1:33 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:There are some strong reports that the upcoming Mohurrum vayez which will be MS' first vayez will be held in Surat. Last week, Huseina bensaab, sister of MS visited Surat twice to oversee the arrangements !! However, as usual the venue will be kept a top secret till the last moment in order to raise 'valvalo' of abdes for whom the topic of discussion will revolve around the venue, some expecting a subsidised foreign trip with hassle free visas and hoping for a destination which will be picturesque and having mega sales to enable them to pick up phoren maal at huge discounts !! Bayan and valvalo for Husain a.s. is secondary !!
Sad how things are, isn't it.

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:08 pm

Some one has to hold the Mukasir (Look two hands on this lower legs holding him)
http://zeninfosys.net/zen/sites/default ... k=pi2ouHK9

How Mukasir is being treated, He can not even see the guests
http://zeninfosys.net/zen/sites/default ... k=eftE5j95

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Unread post by haqniwaat » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:57 pm

SBM wrote:Some one has to hold the Mukasir (Look two hands on this lower legs holding him)
http://zeninfosys.net/zen/sites/default ... k=pi2ouHK9

How Mukasir is being treated, He can not even see the guests
http://zeninfosys.net/zen/sites/default ... k=eftE5j95
Mazoon was treated a lot worse for so many years and now they scream laanat on him. Do you still believe these people have any respect for mazoon or mukasir? ! They've literally made the two rutba defunct.

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Unread post by thesource » Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:28 am

As received,
"Marol mumbai ni jamat na ek shekh faize mawaed burhania na ek khidmat guzar sathe kivi zaban ma vaat kare chey...aapas ni nani vat nu motu roop aapi zagdo karey chey...shekh do darajo ghano unccho chey...kom ma su chali rahru chey.....koney fariyad karvi??
Phone recording suno.."
This is some Shk. Aziz from Marol Jamaat who is referring to Shk. Saifuddin Rampurawala who happens to be another money extorting machine.
May God save these poor Abdes.
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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:54 am

haqniwaat wrote:
SBM wrote:Some one has to hold the Mukasir (Look two hands on this lower legs holding him)
http://zeninfosys.net/zen/sites/default ... k=pi2ouHK9

How Mukasir is being treated, He can not even see the guests
http://zeninfosys.net/zen/sites/default ... k=eftE5j95
Mazoon was treated a lot worse for so many years and now they scream laanat on him. Do you still believe these people have any respect for mazoon or mukasir? ! They've literally made the two rutba defunct.
Yeh Dawat kisse ki baap ki thodi na hain, yeh dawat toh Imam-u-zaman (AS) ki hain unhoney yeh Rutba kaim kiye hain, Koi Hikmat hain isliye.
Aaj Imam-U-Zaman ki hiqmat khub nazar aa rahee hain, dekhlo Unke banaye huwe rutbey ko Mazoon-ul-Mutlaq ko kya kya suna rahey hain, kya yeh agar joh Muffadal Saab Dawa kartey hain Dai ka kya Imam ke Dai chahengay ke Imam ke Mazoon ko Gaali de........
yeh Muffadal Saab Mind games khelke logo ki acchi tehra se Le rahey hain
Dharm ke naam Pe Political influence and Political Benefits ki baatein ho rahee hain
Allah In Dheshi Mardood aur maloono ki Khub lengey JALDI!

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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:56 am

Yeh Dawat Kabhi Dai ki Jaagir ya property nahee hain SIRF AUR SIRF IMAM U ZAMAAN ki amanat hain!
Hum Unkey bacchey hain, hum unke mureed hain INN SAFED RANG PE LIPTEY HUEY FAREBIYO KE NAHEE

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Unread post by thesource » Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:00 am

I know of someone who was there at the burial in the faraway Kausa Kabrastan and who happens to knows Mr. Imtiaz Kheyrulla personally. He stays above Kailash Parbat at Colaba, Mumbai.
I do not know the Koptis but a friend who knows the family narrated the whole incident to me. It was shocking! A man who served the community for his entire life was given such a tough farewell.
First when the amils (there are 2) of Badri Mahal were informed upon immediately about the death, they did not seem to bother and delayed the final journey by 4-5 HOURS!
Second they were denied burial space in Narial Wadi (Mazgoan) and in Charni Road. The burial space was allotted faraway at Kausa Kabrastan.
Third the immediate family that is the deceased's son Saifuddin Kopti and grandson Husain Kopti were not allowed to even take Taaziyat (condolences) from others in the Masjid at NariyalWadi where the Janaza Namaaz took place.
Fourth They were denied to enter the grave of their father and not allowed in the Sipara at Badri Mahal by Mr. Imtiaz Kheyrulla.

Let me tell you something about Mr. Imtiaz Kheyrulla, he has made a lot of money in Badri Mahal as he was treasurer and had done a scam of a few crores a few years back. His business is "THE STOCK MARKET" whereas MS says its haram. He is the man involved in providing special services (women) to these bhaisahebs who the Abdes think are the ones taking them to heaven.

I urge all of you to spread and share such information and take down such hypocrites like Mr. Imtiaz Kheyrulla.
These are the real hypocrites! How can one stop or deny permission for a burial. This is no religion.

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Unread post by SBM » Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:12 am

^
How come the person who is treasure has name IMTIAZ, this is supposed to be NON BOHRA names according the NAME CHANGE COMMITTEE of Kothari Goons

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Unread post by thesource » Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:17 am

Mr Imtiaz Kheyrulla's name has been changed to Shaikh Murtuza Kheyrulla.
He uses the names according to his fancy. When with the abdes and his boss bhaisahebs it is Shk. Murtuza and when his presence is felt at the Bars its Mr. Imtiaz. So one name for religious purpose and the latter for Social.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:00 pm

Huzurala Tus meets Governor, gives 53 lakhs for J & K flood victims at Raj Bhavan, Mumbai on Monday 6th Oct.

Huzurala Tus met the Governor of Maharashtra Ch Vidyasagar Rao at Raj Bhavan, Mumbai on Monday (6 Oct).

Huzurala Tus presented a cheque of Rs.53 lakhs addressed to the Prime Minister’s Relief Fund for the rehabilitation of the persons affected by the floods in Jammu & Kashmir to the Governor.

The Governor appreciated the gesture of Syedna and forwarded the cheque to the Prime Minister.

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The above is a perfect example of "Deepak tale Andhera"...... Scores of Bohras are in dire need of funds and many are living below poverty line in slums of Dharavi, Sion, Kurla, Malad and Mumbra, the recent case of Mehfuzaben Namakwala of Bharuch who was thrown out of her house and was living on the otla of Jamatkhana and was ultimately helped by non-bohras and the Dai did nothing to help her is a glaring example ! And here we have the so called rehbar of Bohras who is more concerned about his own publicity and photo-ops as such acts invite media attention and he gains political mileage out of it whereas helping his own followers doesn't. An exhorbitant amount of Rs.53 lakhs could take care of a sizeable number of poor bohras but does he care ??? Instead he forcefully extorts wajebat amounts from the same poor Bohras who actually deserve to get the same !!

P.S. Helping the victims of Kashmir floods is definitely important but its even more important to first help his own followers whose money he is splurging for his own benefit. After all "Charity begins at home" !!

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:15 pm

Matam Majlis with Niyaat of Huzurala Tus perform 1436H Ashara in Surat

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Unread post by thesource » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:54 pm

thesource wrote:As received,
"Marol mumbai ni jamat na ek shekh faize mawaed burhania na ek khidmat guzar sathe kivi zaban ma vaat kare chey...aapas ni nani vat nu motu roop aapi zagdo karey chey...shekh do darajo ghano unccho chey...kom ma su chali rahru chey.....koney fariyad karvi??
Phone recording suno.."
This is some Shk. Aziz from Marol Jamaat who is referring to Shk. Saifuddin Rampurawala who happens to be another money extorting machine.
May God save these poor Abdes.
Shk Aziz is threatening this abde as it is heard clearly in the recording above by using such foul language and he has no right to threaten. It is his duty to inform the Amil or the Police. He can not take Law in to his own hands.
This is a counter message that's been sent by Shk Aziz and it clearly shows how they have defamed that abde and I wonder if he is safe from these guys.
This is the message as received:
Salaam marol no je audio mokalva ma aave che! ehni haqeeqat em che ke mustansir yeh (FMB, THALI) khidmatguzar bairoo (ladies) sathe gustakhi kidi hati. Shabab na Secretary Shk Aziz pase ladies, gents complain kidee Aziz bhai Madraswala yeh Secretary na rights si ehne phone kido. Mustansir pehle sij tayyar hato itle preplanned recording starting si (hello) conversation record kidu. Agar koini madad karvama itlu mottu issue banse toh agal raine koi insaniyat na naate koi madad vaste agal nai ave Shk Aziz Madraswala no gusso jaaiz che sukam ke saamne wale ni harqat kharab hati aa incident ek mahina pehla no che purposely highlight karva ma aayo che. Marol si ghana momineen aa incidents na shahid che Kem k ama Shk Aziz Madraswala noh personal kai faydo nathi. Negative thoo badha fwd kare che haqeekat bhi logo ne khabar karvi joye.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:33 pm

"The more power you possess, the more insecure you feel. The paranoia of power drives people towards absolutism. But it doesn't work. Far from curing them of the conviction that they are threatened and beleaguered, greater control breeds greater paranoia".

-- Anonymous.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:21 pm

WHAT IS THIS ASHURA MUBARAKA "OHBAT" STUFF ??

ASHRA OHBAT & MATAM MAJLIS IN SAIFEE MOHALLA INDORE
13th Zilhajj, 1435
Location: M.P., India, INDORE, SAIFEE MAWAID, SAIFEE MOHALLA

Ashara Mubarakah Ohbat Sansthaa Meeting Bhuj
8th Zilhajj, 1435
Location: Gujarat, India, Bhuj, Mawaeed

Ashara Mubarak Ohbat Meeting at Najampura Mohallah , Mandasaur, Madhya Pradesh
9th Zilhajj, 1435
Location: Madhya Pradesh, India, MANDSAUR, Najampura

Ohbat Ashara Mubaraka - Hakimi Masjid AJMAN UAE
9th Zilhajj, 1435
Location: United Arab Emirates, Ajman, Nuamiya

Ohbat Ashara Mubarak Saleh Mohaalla Mumineen At Saleh Masjid Karachi Pakistan.
11th Zilhajj, 1435
Location: Pakistan, Karachi, Saleh Masjid

Ashara Mubarak Ohbat Meeting At Noor Hall, Ibrahim Mohallah,Karachi-Pakistan.
9th Zilhajj, 1435
Location: Pakistan, Karachi, Noor Hall, Ibrahim Mohalla

Janab Muder BS Surat Aamil Saheb Conduction Ashara 1436H Ohbat Meeting at Darul Imarat Surat
26th Shawwal, 1435
Location: India, Surat, Darul Imarat

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:14 pm

VIEW OF THE SWIMMING POOL AT THE DAI'S PALATIAL BUNGALOW IN DUMAS, SURAT.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:40 pm

MS IN HIS CHILDHOOD WITH HIS GRANDFATHER TAHER SAIFUDDIN SAAB

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Unread post by haqniwaat » Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:50 pm

This is Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA, not Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA.