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Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:59 am
by SBM
Baad Afzal-us-Salaam,

This email is sent with Raza of Janab Aamil Saheb.

As per farmaan from Al-Vajaarat, all Mumineen bhaiyo, behno and farzando of Anjuman-e-Husami, Atlanta, jamaat has to sign a petition during the Sadaqallah Majlis on Saturday 1/25, which will acknowledge Syedna Muffaddal Saifuddin (TUS) as our haqiqi 53rd Dai Mutlaq and the same will be submitted to the Governor of Georgia.

Please make every effort to be present on Saturday as this petition has to be signed and each signature will form a permanent part of our jamaat record.

Wasalaam,
Anjuman-e-Husami, Atlanta.
http://www.atlantajamaat.org

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:14 am
by hasman001
I cannot believe this is happening. And i am living among such staunch people that they will force me to sign as per farman

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:25 am
by white_pigeon
SBM wrote:Baad Afzal-us-Salaam,

This email is sent with Raza of Janab Aamil Saheb.

As per farmaan from Al-Vajaarat, all Mumineen bhaiyo, behno and farzando of Anjuman-e-Husami, Atlanta, jamaat has to sign a petition during the Sadaqallah Majlis on Saturday 1/25, which will acknowledge Syedna Muffaddal Saifuddin (TUS) as our haqiqi 53rd Dai Mutlaq and the same will be submitted to the Governor of Georgia.

Please make every effort to be present on Saturday as this petition has to be signed and each signature will form a permanent part of our jamaat record.

Wasalaam,
Anjuman-e-Husami, Atlanta.
http://www.atlantajamaat.org


When will this madness end? When will people rise up? Power is of the people.
If any political leader like Gaddafi, Saddam, Modi or Manmohan Singh would ask forcingly citizens to sign and support them. Can you imagine what the world say to those people signing it?
Would you do it if they would come to your houses at midnight knocking on your door?
Wouldnt you say " Damn, Are they so desperate?"
"Dumb Idiots".
Just to be honest.

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:33 am
by godmoney
In India they have taken signature on blank paper

They have gone mad...may b they wud show all the signature to wakft trust to b sole owner

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:35 pm
by Sceptical
I've just had this information from my friends living in Indian Ocean :
- Members of Jamaat Committee were requested to sign a paper in which they attest that SMS is rightful Dai ;
- The paper will be sent to the local authority as soon as possible.

So seems that SMS camp has no evidence to justify their claim in law point of view...

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:59 pm
by ghulam muhammed
First it was forceful extortion and now its forceful signatures !! Muffy gang have been on a signature campaign drive and are going to every Bohra household in south Mumbai as well as in Pune with a "Command" to sign the papers thereby swearing allegiance to Muffy !!

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:11 pm
by anajmi
1400 years ago, someone else was forced to give allegiance. Hmmm.... who was that?... and who was forcing allegiance from him. We wouldn't be following the forcers now would we? That would be beneath us. That would be shameful of us. We would be like the people we have been cursing for 1400 years. All those curses would be on our souls on the day of judgment. We wouldn't do such shameful deeds now would we? Or would we? :wink:

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:15 pm
by ghulam muhammed
In Surat, the gang under instructions of its Amil Muder (saadubhai of Muffy) are not only taking signatures by force but the gang makes sure that the members of bohra household whom they visit, pronounce "Laanat" on SKQ and force them to use utterly vulgar language to humiliate him. Most of the Bohras DO NOT want to curse SKQ in such derogatory language as they cannot fathom the thought of using such filthy words for a person whom they have been respecting and addressing in a dignified manner till just yesterday.

After getting the required signatures there is a plan to take a morcha to the office of the Surat Collectorate on Monday, 27th January and submit a memorandum thereby claiming that Muffy is the rightful Dai !!

Now what could be the reasons behind such aggressive moves ?? Needless to say that Muffy is NOT confident of his fan following despite his tall claims. Another very important reason is that he is SCARED of losing ALL the Dawat properties and Dawat funds parked in various banks in India, abroad and many tax havens because the rightful owner of all this is the Dai-ul-Mutlaq and any claims made by SKQ could jeopardise his plans and he could lose not only the stranglehold of abdes but also the trillions of dollars looted by him and his ancestors since decades !!

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:33 pm
by godmoney
SMS is claiming to be Dai of Bohra and doing all short off cursing on SKQ( was Mazoon for 50 yrs ). He claim to be follower of sariyat of Mohammad (SAW) and don't know about He hated the curse and foul language.

Reported by Abud-Darda (RA): The Prophet (peace be upon him) said, “Nothing will be heavier on the Day of Resurrection in the Scale of the believer than good manners. Allah hates one who utters foul or coarse language.” [Tirmidhi]

When you curse, you're not just ruining your character and image, but you're also ruining your akhira -

muffy i think end is too near

why do u want to abuse your own close relative

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:42 pm
by admirer
"Instructions
Mumineen are contacting us to say that they are being approached by local jamaat authorities and being asked to sign Representation documents against their free will in violation of their rights to practice their faith.

Mumineen in India who wish to report this to their local police station are encouraged to file a non-cognisant complaint (“NC”) using the file format set out in the attached file. Please let us know if you have filed an NC and send us a copy of the acknowledged NC to info@fatemidawat.com"

http://fatemidawat.com/instructions/

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:41 pm
by questions
What's app message :
Koi Bhi Galti si Bhi fatemidawat.com website Na open kari nay joi.
Kem le ye logo har aik visitor nay count karee Rahya chay Ane em jatavee Rya chay Kay Itna logo hamara satay chay ...to plz aa vatno khaas khayal rakhe. Pl forward this message to all
Kal tak 50000 up at count Che

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:13 am
by white_pigeon
Please sign this petition asking president Obama to acknowledge that Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS as the rightful heir to office of dai ul mutlaq -- we need 100,000 signatures please help make this happen

http://wh.gov/l5trX

PLEASE forward this to as many mumineens as you know.

If you do not live in the USA, you can use either of the following zip codes to CREATE your Account.
36064

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:16 am
by white_pigeon
Please sign this petition asking president Obama to acknowledge that Syedna

PLEASE forward this to as many mumineens as you know.

If you do not live in the USA, you can use either of the following zip codes to CREATE your Account.
36064
94536
30345
30024
77450
77492.

This messages are being circulated to Bohras.
I have reported this to Scotland Yard in London and they will inform the CIA to monitor this fraudalent activity. They are all made aware of this situation now.

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:35 am
by juzerali
white_pigeon wrote:Please sign this petition asking president Obama to acknowledge that Syedna
I have reported this to Scotland Yard in London and they will inform the CIA to monitor this fraudalent activity. They are all made aware of this situation now.
Good work, we need such careful vigilantism at this juncture.

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:50 am
by admirer
white_pigeon wrote:Please sign this petition asking president Obama to acknowledge that Syedna

PLEASE forward this to as many mumineens as you know.

If you do not live in the USA, you can use either of the following zip codes to CREATE your Account.
36064
94536
30345
30024
77450
77492.

This messages are being circulated to Bohras.
I have reported this to Scotland Yard in London and they will inform the CIA to monitor this fraudalent activity. They are all made aware of this situation now.
What a joke! :lol:
Acknowledging the economic conditions and health reforms of a multi trillion dollar economy is much more important for Obama than giving a heed to a petition of Dawoodi bohras!!

And how conveniently they are asking people to use random ZIPCODES if they don't belong to USA. There's hardly any doubt that kothar will creat 100 000 fake ids and sign the petition.

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:56 am
by Roshan_shines
admirer wrote:
white_pigeon wrote:Please sign this petition asking president Obama to acknowledge that Syedna

PLEASE forward this to as many mumineens as you know.

If you do not live in the USA, you can use either of the following zip codes to CREATE your Account.
36064
94536
30345
30024
77450
77492.

This messages are being circulated to Bohras.
I have reported this to Scotland Yard in London and they will inform the CIA to monitor this fraudalent activity. They are all made aware of this situation now.
What a joke! :lol:
Acknowledging the economic conditions and health reforms of a multi trillion dollar economy is much more important for Obama than giving a heed to a petition of Dawoodi bohras!!

And how conveniently they are asking people to use random ZIPCODES if they don't belong to USA. There's hardly any doubt that kothar will creat 100 000 fake ids and sign the petition.
One day they will send a letter to all the shankracharyas also to acknowledge SMS as Syedna

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:01 am
by questions
And Obama cares about the bohris, why ?
The only ones who should care are the mafia, indian or others, to lootofy the fatemi mint and the rooms full of gold and cash from Saifee 'mahal' . That's the only way for the community to be rid of them. Send them all packing !

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:01 am
by SBM
People should stop wasting there time signing this kind of petition. President has no say in this kind of matters neither does Governors. Muffi camp has very powerful and smart lawyers working for Dawat E Hadiyah USA and they know the procedure and chain of command. They are having a very busy schedule explanining the entire Succession process to various agencies in USA. Donot forget SKQ and his daughter Tahera BS is USA based and teaches at very prestigious college and she is very smart and well connected with Government
This cheap tactic by Muffi camp is show just like they always have low level Consulate General or a Mayor from Cities thinking that those are big privileged people. In case of USA low level consulate General and Mayors are available dime a dozen for right amount of campaign contribution
SO STOP THIS STUPID PETITION SIGNING TO PRESIDENT AND GOVERNORS

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:03 am
by admirer

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:09 am
by AMAFHH
!!

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:19 am
by white_pigeon
juzerali wrote:
white_pigeon wrote:Please sign this petition asking president Obama to acknowledge that Syedna
I have reported this to Scotland Yard in London and they will inform the CIA to monitor this fraudalent activity. They are all made aware of this situation now.
Good work, we need such careful vigilantism at this juncture.

I have informed the special force officers in all relevant departments in USA and UK with human rights organisation to monitor all fraudalent activities and monitoring threats abuses too. Keyboard warriors can now face arrests and jail if they are found guilty of misusing any type of threatening activity.

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:02 am
by Hussain_KSA
In Ahmedabad signature campaign has been started and every house is being visited to get the signature on the paper which will be submitted to district collector. Same situation is reported from other cities too.

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:10 pm
by questions
What is memorandum called in lisaan ul dawat ?

Al - or else ul baraat :mrgreen:

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:14 pm
by SKQ Fan
Speaking to many, many Momineen in my City, they all tell me that our Hearts are with Sayedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin but our tongues are with the imposter and ayaash Muffy, There should be independent poll organized amonsgt Bohras by a neutral agency where people can let it be known to whom their allegiance it to, this poll should guarantee the anonymity. The signature campaign conduct by the Muffy Camp will not be valid in any court of law as it is taken under extreme duress and threats .

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:25 pm
by anajmi
Speaking to many, many Momineen in my City, they all tell me that our Hearts are with Sayedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin but our tongues are with the imposter and ayaash Muffy,
Unfortunately, these people deserve to be with the imposter and the ayaash!!

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:33 pm
by ammar
I am wondering what happens if you dont want to sign?

What will they do then?

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:42 pm
by trvoice
ammar wrote:I am wondering what happens if you dont want to sign?

What will they do then?
Nothing, they can only push as long as you let them. Draw a solid line and you should be fine, but its upto an individual what they do when that line is crossed. :twisted:

Re: Arm twisting by Muffi Camp

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:55 pm
by ammar
I got it..i wont sign those damn papers.

I hope our gullible bros and sis will do the same.

Mufaddal Saifudin

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:46 pm
by Bohra spring
This topic is dedicated to the qualities of Mufaddal Saifudin and the qualities he has , capabilities and issues that will occur if he becomes the 53rd Diai.

As we have a separate topic on Khuzema Qutbudinn, the Mazoon. It is important to understand what is Mansoos, why it was created, it's legality etc and also discuss the person, character, and style.

Re: Mufaddal Saifudin

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:14 pm
by SBM
This topic is dedicated to the qualities of Mufaddal Saifudin and the qualities he has
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