Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by New » Thu May 22, 2014 10:06 pm

Are bhai, he is talking long distance with Imam. The caller ID does not show up.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by alphabxx » Fri May 23, 2014 12:22 am

Nice one "New"!
Cant stop laughing!!!


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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by Rebel » Sat May 24, 2014 11:14 am

New wrote:Are bhai, he is talking long distance with Imam. The caller ID does not show up.
He is probably requesting or perhaps telling Imam not to return as things are under control. He has taken over control of all the everything in the dawat and resolved all the problems of the community therefore Imam should not be worried and stay wherever he is healthy and happy.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by New » Sat May 24, 2014 4:12 pm

You are suggesting Rebel bhai that after fooling Abdes en mass he is fooling his boss. Wait till his Performance Appraisal takes place with a glaring F grade. May be he may loose his job.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat May 24, 2014 5:07 pm

watsup msg :-

Dear Maula,

Iam your ardent follower and dislike what the Daavedar is doing..... yet I have a few questions :

How much money does the Dawat really have ? How is this money being utilised for the betterment of the community ? Why don't you give justification and stop everyone from accusing you ? What will happen if you lose in court ? Once the Daavedar comes in power and holds the keys to the vault, what will happen to us, your followers ? When he first made his claim, you created a HULLA and forced us to sign allegiance to you. Now, why you and kothar are silent ? Daavedar is inviting you to an open debate, why don't you except his offer and show to the world that you are the chosen one ? Maula our respect and love for you will never diminish but please answer these questions publicly.
Yeh message itna forward karo ki hamare pyaare Mola tak pahoch jaaye.... Jazakallah.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat May 24, 2014 5:36 pm

watsup msg :-

Dear Abde Bohras,

Open your eyes. It is order of Quran and Sahib al Quran.

People are asking and will keep asking questions to Mufaddal bhaisaab only as he is the one who has publicly declared 3 years back that he is the true Mansoos.... as he is the one who has the largest following... as he is the one who holds absolute power over the abdes.... as he is the one who holds absolute power over dawat properties and its money.... as he is the one who always gives bayans which have no meaning..... as he is the one who always goofs up..... as he is the one who most of the time contradicts his own statements.... as he is the one who enjoys people's money and a lavish lifestyle... as he is the one who after buying a 170 crore property near Colombo has again bought a property in Khandala worth 50-60 crores.... as he is the one who forces people to pay through his various Ponzi schemes.... as he is the one who tries to replicate his father in some or the other way and also celebrates his birthday with that of his father.... as he is the one in whose time a Hindu appears out of nowhere and declares that SMB sahib had appeared in his dreams and said that Mufaddal bhaisaab is the true mansoos.... as he is the one who embraces a baba but doesn't allow a mumin to even do his salam or qadambosi properly..... as he is the one who has goondas in the face of his saalas...... as he is the one who was the main accused in the zahir batin controversy...... as he is the one who has been accused by Taizoon bhaisaab..... as he is the one who is responsible for the SBUT mess... and there are many such reasons.

On the other hand Qutbuddin Mola has never shown his might publicly..... has never shouted from the rooftops that he is the true mansoos... has never hidden or manipulated the facts... has done and is still doing many charitable works (check his website) .... has always maintained sabar.... has always said that when haq na dai bulawe to mumin ne jawab aapvo pade and that is what is happening.... many many people are daily or weekly going to him to lend their support.... many people are giving him misaq every week.... I have seen many people coming from other cities and states... he is always humble to people who come to meet him and listens to their problems and arzi and also gives them solutions on the spot... he doesn't buy people by offering them money... and last but not the least he may have a following of 1-2% presently but those people are with him because they believe him not by force but by their heart... whereas the majority of people are with Mufaddal bhaisaab out of fear of goondas and fear of the society and boycott and such things.

If you believe in him then don't be scared of the society ... just take one step.... the 1st initiative and then Allah will show you the way.

We are some 12 lakh people but already 30-40% of our people don't believe at all in our community and the remaining ones will slowly understand and start to shift towards Qutbuddin Mola.

Zulfiqar.
Burhanpur.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by Sufi monk » Sun May 25, 2014 12:11 am

my forecast of muffy regime downfall was 10 years, but looking at his stupidity and situation on ground, now I cut down my forecast time to 2 years.

Allah Hu Akbar !!!

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by rational_guy » Sun May 25, 2014 3:24 am

Has Mulla & Mulla recused themselves. true_bohra can you verify this story??? and most importantly WHY???

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by way2go » Sun May 25, 2014 7:35 am

rational_guy wrote:Has Mulla & Mulla recused themselves. true_bohra can you verify this story??? and most importantly WHY???
Worth Knowing About Bohra Community ::

As Recd on WhatsApp..
M/s. Mulla & Mulla and Craige & Buntley, Advocates and Solicitors have recused themselves from representing Mufaddal Saifuddin in the Mumbai High Court in the Nass Case. In simple words it means that now Mufaddal Saifuddin will have to appoint some other Advocate to fight the case against SKQ.

On inquiry with Mulla & Mulla, initially they declined to offer any reason for their decision to withdraw representing Mufaddal Saifuddin but after persistence they declared that their decision was based after viewing the Audio and Video of the London Hospital that was shown to the Bohra Community worldwide on last Sunday.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by alam » Sun May 25, 2014 11:13 am

SMS advocates having recused themselves may be due to any or all of the following:

1. Conflict of interest for anybody on the team of Mulla & Mulla
2. Severe compromise of case - perhaps due to showing of Nass tapes to Bohra
Community on May 18
3. SMS - fired them for reasons of their own. (hire others for less money, for better
representation)
4. Mulla & Mulla see the fraud and tampering of evidence and cannot ethically
represent them anymore and therefore recuse themselves.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by rational_guy » Mon May 26, 2014 3:44 am

in the last 5 months qaid johar bhaisab is taking a lead in encouraging laanat baazi and baraat. First it was the azad maidaan incident and then stray incidents after that. why is he so angry?

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by Crater Lake » Mon May 26, 2014 4:17 am

Most likely because his bahu and his grandchildren saw through him and went over to the other side. He has also been making bad jokes comparing "literate" and "litter." Does he know that anyone who can read Quran e Majeed is "literate?" Is their literacy going into the litter box? What an idiotic joke and how foolish the Abdes laughing at it!

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islamic qulafications of claimant syedna muffadal sifuddin

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Unread post by askz » Mon May 26, 2014 8:19 am

dear all
can anybody list out qualifications of syedna muffadal saifuddin? has he completed 11 alkas of jamea tus saifiya or has he or any of his shehzadas have acquired some degrees in islamic studies.
because in mazoons camp all seem to be highly qualified and they dont narrate prepared speeches. kindly share some information on above

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Re: islamic qulafications of claimant syedna muffadal sifud

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Unread post by MMH » Mon May 26, 2014 8:51 am

He has not passed high school. He dropped out of school before 7th grade.

• He has had no formal education in the secular world.

• He does not speak English fluently. He had trouble figuring out what “fawwara” means in English and asked kids in waez and they said (water) fountain. We have not heard him speak a sentence in English. Whereas Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA learnt English during Syedna Taher Saifuddin’s RA era. Teacher used to come at Saify Mahal.

• He does not speak fluent Arabic. He had trouble deciphering and translating a paragraph from Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA risala during Jamea exam. When he was asked to do by Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA, he tried, fumbled and kept quiet. Mufaddal Saifuddin’s supporters say he was quiet for humility.

• He went to Cairo to learn Arabic language during the early years of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin’s RA era. It seems he dropped out from there as well.

• He has learnt from Kothar and Jamea Ustads most of his young life, as do most Saify Mahal children.

• Later he took sabaq’s from Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA with all other sons and daughters of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA.

• He is dependant on reading from book in waez. It is unclear who prepares the script, probably Mr. Mohammed Hasan and Mr. Haider Ali. Mufaddal Saifuddin does not have command of his content. We have never heard him to be able to do waez for 10 minutes without going back to the witten script.

• He takes Vasila by reading from script. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA only did this reaching older age.



• He does bayan from Dawat kitabs (scripted) as well as other Shia unconfirmed sources, as we heard during Moharrem waez.


• He went to Hajj after Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA is ill, did not do Tahiyyat Tawaaf in Kaaba as instructed by our doctrine. He says Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA, when he did his last Umra, did not do it (for age reasons, no other) so he is following him.

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Re: islamic qulafications of claimant syedna muffadal sifud

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Unread post by MMH » Mon May 26, 2014 8:52 am

I have got this information from the whoisthetruesyedna.com website...

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Re: islamic qulafications of claimant syedna muffadal sifud

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Unread post by SBM » Mon May 26, 2014 9:15 am

Sister MMH
Now look for all those die Hard Abdes coming on this and comparing Prophet Mohammed to SMS (Nauzubillaha) and compare SMS qualifications to our beloved Prophet

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Re: islamic qulafications of claimant syedna muffadal sifud

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Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Mon May 26, 2014 9:27 am

The only person i think who can give detail description of SMS qualifications with qualities is ADAM as rest of the abdes has already accept defeat by not enlighting us with SMS qualities.

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Re: islamic qulafications of claimant syedna muffadal sifud

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Unread post by Rebel » Mon May 26, 2014 9:49 am

@MMH - good description. MS is absolutely not qualified to be dai or a spiritual leader, he is leader of extortion and oppression. He is a dictator.

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Re: islamic qulafications of claimant syedna muffadal sifud

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Unread post by MMH » Mon May 26, 2014 9:58 am

quote="Rebel"]@MMH - good description. MS is absolutely not qualified to be dai or a spiritual leader, he is leader of extortion and oppression. He is a dictator.[/quote]


i got this off a website...I wont vouch for the authenticity but rebel I am asking for trouble because Adam, James, true bohra and God knows who are definitely going to lynch me for this...

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Re: islamic qulafications of claimant syedna muffadal sifud

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Unread post by Rebel » Mon May 26, 2014 10:13 am

@MMH - not to worry, the gang and their master are deranged and retard individuals. They have destroyed peace and harmony of a good community. People live a stressful life because MS and his gang will come up every alternate day with a new scheme of money laundering from helpless followers.

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Re: islamic qulafications of claimant syedna muffadal sifud

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Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Mon May 26, 2014 10:21 am

I feel so pity on all the abdes who dont know the capabilities of SMS but still following him, y? because smb has done nass on him which is in question. Do you all think that SMB can do nass on sms who dont have single i repeat again who dont have single qualification of dai.

May i call this as one of the best eg. of "BLIND FOLLOWERS.

I think SKQ followers are smarter than you all as they have reasons to follow him.

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Re: islamic qulafications of claimant syedna muffadal sifud

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Unread post by Rebel » Mon May 26, 2014 10:51 am

But MB hasn't done Nass on MS. At least, we all saw in the video what MB said what came out of Dr. Moiz bhaijan. Something went wrong in the past? Dai converted themselves into blood sucking vampires.

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Re: islamic qulafications of claimant syedna muffadal sifud

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Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Mon May 26, 2014 11:55 am

Rebel wrote:But MB hasn't done Nass on MS. At least, we all saw in the video what MB said what came out of Dr. Moiz bhaijan. Something went wrong in the past? Dai converted themselves into blood sucking vampires.
Yes agreed, but for abdes nass has been done on sms and for them its final.

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Re: islamic qulafications of claimant syedna muffadal sifud

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Unread post by Rebel » Mon May 26, 2014 12:03 pm

The masses have bought a certificate for their own doom and that is very sad by accepting a Nass which clearly is not valid.

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Re: islamic qulafications of claimant syedna muffadal sifud

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Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Mon May 26, 2014 2:17 pm

On a humurous note would like to say MS qualities are BAATIL.

Sorry abdes but you all had failed to prove sms qualities.


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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by think_for_yourself » Mon May 26, 2014 10:50 pm

I have made roti my whole adult life but have never managed to make one rolling the velan with two fingers of one hand.... Divine powers must be assisting His gaDhaiship in pulling off a two finger move like this.... I am impressed.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by Sufi monk » Mon May 26, 2014 11:07 pm

this is getting funnier ever other second, GM bhai how you get such funny pics?

if leader is busy making rotis, who is looking after other important matters of dawat?

where is so called "Busaheba" she must be having face palm behind the curtains.

even this kid cant see it any more :D
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