Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

[ghulam muhammed]

MS needs psychiatrist's help, please recommend a good doctor.

He can get himself admitted in Cromwell Hospital, London as by now he must be well versed with every nook and corner of the hospital and developed excellent relations with every doctor right upto the sweeper due to his various trips there to gather (manipulate) hospital records in order to prove his Nass !!

[Rebel]

Lol...you do recommend a good place for him. He deserves to be admitted there so his brain can be readjusted. He needs to become a civilized human being. He needs to be reformed.

[ghulam muhammed]

[ghulam muhammed]

[Rebel]

What does it say...I can't read this language

[ghulam muhammed]

Aadmi DHAN ke peeche tab tak bhaagta hai
Jab tak uska NIDHAN nahi ho jaata.

Dhan = Wealth
Nidhan = Death

[ghulam muhammed]

koi na pag ma padi ne samaj ma prasiddhi melav vi tena karta potana pag e chaali ne samaj seva kari su to atma gaurav ni saathe atma samman pan mal se.

[ghulam muhammed]

Huzurala TUS arrives in Tananarive, Madagascar

[Rebel]

Aadmi DHAN ke peeche tab tak bhaagta hai
Jab tak uska NIDHAN nahi ho jaata.

Dhan = Wealth
Nidhan = Death

Yes, I agree, people have a great tendency to run after wealth all there lives until there last breath

[rational_guy]

Heard Shz Qaidjohar is in London again with his full team. This is his 5th or 6th trip to London this year. Business class ticket per trip costs Rs 150,000.00

Plus he lives in a bungalow near the masjid.. Is Dawat E Hadiya sponsoring all this.??

Is this how our wajabaat is getting spent on the comfortable and luxurious lifestyles of the Shehzada's

[Rebel]

But of course, we give them money as wajebat and sabil etc etc so they can enjoy their lives. I heard QJ wears a wrist watch which costs over RS 2 lacs. So nice of you to give respect to QJ with the title Shz - the plunderer of our hard earned money.

[rational_guy]

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا تَخُونُوا اللَّهَ وَالرَّسُولَ وَتَخُونُوا أَمَانَاتِكُمْ وَأَنْتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ

Surat Al-Anfal Ayat 27: O ye that believe! betray not the trust of Allah and the Messenger, nor misappropriate knowingly things entrusted to you.

[ghulam muhammed]

I heard QJ wears a wrist watch which costs over RS 2 lacs.

That must be the cost of his assistant's watch, QJ must be wearing something which could be worth not less then a crore. It could be a Patek Phillipe, Gucci, Christian Dior or Rolex.

[Sufi monk]

just got new pics on whats up, muffy has also brought some very expensive properties in Madagascar, and its been renovated by Singapore interior designer.

property is estimated to be of 300,000 USD and interior design has cost 900,000 USD

now this is getting serious and not a joke any more, some thing has to be done about this...

[true_bohra]

MS needs psychiatrist's help, please recommend a good doctor.

He can get himself admitted in Cromwell Hospital, London as by now he must be well versed with every nook and corner of the hospital and developed excellent relations with every doctor right upto the sweeper due to his various trips there to gather (manipulate) hospital records in order to prove his Nass !!

Did you see the Cromwell Hospital Video...do you think it is manipulated...

What manipulation did you notice....

Can you ask for a proof of Succession from KQ's side. Are they having any written testimony, any evidences, any witness or any video???

Heh!!! bring proof from that side and then talk about manipulation.

[rational_guy]

He can get himself admitted in Cromwell Hospital, London as by now he must be well versed with every nook and corner of the hospital and developed excellent relations with every doctor right upto the sweeper due to his various trips there to gather (manipulate) hospital records in order to prove his Nass !!

Did you see the Cromwell Hospital Video...do you think it is manipulated...

What manipulation did you notice....

Can you ask for a proof of Succession from KQ's side. Are they having any written testimony, any evidences, any witness or any video???

Heh!!! bring proof from that side and then talk about manipulation.

As you know matter is proceeding in Bombay High Court

anyways can you answer the following
Did not hear back from you guys about the following issues:

1. Shz Muffadal Saifuddin gave 103Cr to qarzan hasanat. Can you please ask someone in Badri mahal or saifee mahal (max since you live there) which bohra businesses or bohris have been helped with that amount.

2. For 50 years Syedna Burhanuddin RA allowed mumineen to give salaam to the Dai, Mazoon and Mukasir. Last year that was changed. It was only collected for the Dai. Is this going to be the "new normal" going forward. In Shz Muffadal Saifuddin's Dawat is there any importance going to be given to the Mazoon or Mukasir.

3. In addition to roti making, is there any real initiative to help bohris living in the suburbs of mumbai to bring them above poverty. Shz Idris Badruddin had started some business center in mumbai.

4. What is the reason for having warakatul tarkhis for Ejamaat.

[tasneempati]

Dr QJ BS nee shaanat ghani nirali che.

I heard QJ wears a wrist watch which costs over RS 2 lacs.

That must be the cost of his assistant's watch, QJ must be wearing something which could be worth not less then a crore. It could be a Patek Phillipe, Gucci, Christian Dior or Rolex.

[ghulam muhammed]

Did you see the Cromwell Hospital Video...do you think it is manipulated...

What manipulation did you notice....

This issue has been exhaustively discussed in other threads hence I do not want to play that same record again and again.

[true_bohra]

Come on GM bhai.

You are one of the wisest members of this forum and still you slipping away with silly things.

If you compare videos presented by both the sides, at least cromwell hospital has Syedna RA felicitating Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS and it thrashed KQ's claims of sherbet intake. The event was documented but if you see the videos presented on www.fatemidawat.com, it has Syedna RA inviting Muanaqa to KQ which was done by other Saadat Kiraam also including Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS.

A meaningful debate on such issue is only possible if there are ample proofs available. Till date i can see proofs coming only from one side. The other side is in slumber

[fustrate_Bohra]

tb, may be the proof coming out from one side are fake.
Lets wait and watch how the court case proceeds,
If the judgement is un-biased than i think all the submitted proof will be turned out fake and this will automatically prove that kq saheb was right.

The above is something court will decide. Why i am having strong gut-feelings that kq is on haq because of following 2 reasons

1) Signature on blank papers: What is the requirement for this if MS was confident and he was having TONS of proofs which comes out every now and then.
2) Dream of a Hindu man: This is totally UNACCEPTABLE for each and every bohras who even has little thinking ability.

[true_bohra]

go and visit www.mostbelovedson.com

you will find dream stories there also and then come for debate.

KQ asked for proofs, we provided diary entry and it was declared fake then we showed cromwell video so now this is also termed as fake INTERESTING..))

[fustrate_Bohra]

go and visit http://www.mostbelovedson.com

you will find dream stories there also and then come for debate.

KQ asked for proofs, we provided diary entry and it was declared fake then we showed cromwell video so now this is also termed as fake INTERESTING..))

As i said earlier let keep this thing for the court to decide and related to Hindu Man dream my reaction is still

[way2go]

go and visit 1. http://www.mostbelovedson.com

2. then we showed cromwell video INTERESTING..))

1. The dream stories are by momeens and not some random Hindu...would like to ask....has he converted and become a Bohra

2. 'then we showed cromwell video'.......shoukd have been shown before if it was there all along.....
a. There would have been no need of Hindu coming with his story of a questionable dream
b. And most important....Raudat Tahera episode would not need to have taken place at all. The London video only popped much much later...Why?????

[way2go]

My intelligent thinking rational mind tells me (as I am using my aql)......

1. Those on the path of truth fear nothing as the truth will speak for itself sooner or later.

2. Those on the path of truth do not need to produce proof after proof (albeit very questionable) to prove they are right.

3. Those on the path of truth do not use laanats etc to get back at people or persons. The persons on the wrong path choose to do that as that is what they need to use as their defense mechanism.

4. Those on the path of truth will always be humble.... They do not need to scream and shout to prove any point and behave like a school headmaster admonishing little misbehaved children.

and lastly....

5. Those on the path of truth do not make up stupid nonsensical ' mozizas' to prove anything. Their actions and results speak for themselves.

[ghulam muhammed]

watsup msg :

CHECK THE IRONY OF THE TIME AND SITUATION.

4 Syednas have written with their own hands that :- GHIBAT NO KARNAR MOHTO GUNEHGAR, BHAI NA MAYYAT NO LAHAM (MEAT) NO KHAANAR.

And the Bohra Kom is witnessing day and night GHIBAT and LAANAT by SMS in the Masjids which is contrary to the teachings of his predecessor Dais.

Mufaddal Saifuddin ex-communicates a Momin who ultimately is cut off from his whole family alongwith his near and dear ones forever. Now God has put him in such a dilemma that he is DUMB to ex-communicate his own daughter-in-laws and 9 grandchildren who have declared their loyalty to their Nana SKQ. Now SMS depends on the prayers of Abdes and Amtes for the return of his estranged beloved ones.

He sends Laanat on SKQ as usual but DUMB to send Laanat on his deserted family members who are loyal to and staying under the same of roof of SKQ.

Previously SMS ordered Bohras NOT to go to COURTS with their disputes and instead come to him to get the matter solved ! (so he can extract more money from both parties in Salam then the court expenses and give his verdict in favour of his favoured person). But now God has sent him to COURTS to face his MISDEEDS.

SMS advises Mumenin not to eat more then 2 Mithas and Kharas in jamans but in dozens of Ziyafats eaten in a couple of days by him along with his royal kingdom, consists of several Mithas & Kharas etc.

To become a role model, SMS should exercise orders first, before implementing it on others.

SMS, now is the time for you to REALISE what GOD is trying to show you.

THE COUNTDOWN HAS BEGUN !!

[true_bohra]

-First of all if laanats are sent day and night among public in masjid then how come it is GHIBAT
- Have you ever seen Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS recite laanat on KQ. I am sure your answer would he witnessed other people saying laanat on KQ but read the message again, it says HE SENDS LAANAT.
- You talking about sending laanats on grand childeren of Syedna TUS, people have not even sent laanat on Abde Ali, Taher, Husain and Aziz Qutbuddin. The root is KQ so laanats were ushered on him
- If you have seen pics of ziyafat, can you put any pic where there is a lavish thaal full of delicacies.

[ghulam muhammed]

SLAVERY STARTS FROM CHILDHOOD !!

[ghulam muhammed]

watsup msg :

Aqa Mola tus pehlo dasko Yemen ma. Arriving in Sana on Friday..... only 45 jan no kaafilo...... most probably no one else allowed to come.

[ghulam muhammed]

WE HAVE SEEN JERSEYS OF IPL AND FIFA PLAYERS, NOW LOOK AT SAYA/KURTA JERSEYS OF MUFFY'S TEAM :-

[Sufi monk]

watsup msg :

Aqa Mola tus pehlo dasko Yemen ma. Arriving in Sana on Friday..... only 45 jan no kaafilo...... most probably no one else allowed to come.

what does that means? did he brought yemen?