Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by DisillusionedDB » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:23 am

qutub_mamajiwala wrote:which video ur referring?
may be i have it
I am not referring to any particular audio or video but bhai Juzerali asked for "I wish they could find the video in which SMS and Dr. Moiz manhandled SMB during Ashura wa'az, painstakingly forcing him to prostrate."

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by noor5253 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:11 pm

What KQ and his children have done is what is disgusting.
As they say in English "Dont bite the hand that feeds you". He had been fed for 50 years by Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Maula AQ and another 20+ years by Syedna Taher Saifuddin Maula AQ. But what did he do? He attacked the hand that fed him. Who would do such a thing? except...

Similarly, Gulam Shaitan has been barking on this forum for years. What happened? Dawat is running full fledged. He will continue barking and one day meet his Lord Shaitan in Hell.

The unfortunate thing about the KQ development is that he took many innocents with him with the help of his team of brainwashers..But inshallah, if it is in their naseeb, they will see the light.

Haqniwaat, It seems you are a close chamcha of KQ. Rather a mouthpiece of some sort. Keep spreading your propaganda. Eventually doodh ka doodh, pani ka pani will happen. Inshallah.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by Crater Lake » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:30 pm

noor5253 wrote:What KQ and his children have done is what is disgusting.
As they say in English "Dont bite the hand that feeds you". He had been fed for 50 years by Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Maula AQ and another 20+ years by Syedna Taher Saifuddin Maula AQ. But what did he do? He attacked the hand that fed him. Who would do such a thing? except...

Similarly, Gulam Shaitan has been barking on this forum for years. What happened? Dawat is running full fledged. He will continue barking and one day meet his Lord Shaitan in Hell.

The unfortunate thing about the KQ development is that he took many innocents with him with the help of his team of brainwashers..But inshallah, if it is in their naseeb, they will see the light.

Haqniwaat, It seems you are a close chamcha of KQ. Rather a mouthpiece of some sort. Keep spreading your propaganda. Eventually doodh ka doodh, pani ka pani will happen. Inshallah.
noor5253 sounds like you are some sort of a chamcha of MS. Rather a mouthpiece of some sort. Burhanuddin Aqa appointed SKQ as a Mazoon. STS RA trained SKQ into the early morning hours giving him sabaq and nurturing his nafs (Burhanuddin Moula RA pointed this out in waaz in Colombo) Indeed those were the hands from which SKQ has drunk water. YOU should indeed remember which hands have nurtured and shaped the soul of Dai az zaman Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin TUS whose name you took in misaaq for 50 years.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by noor5253 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:54 pm

Crater Lake wrote:
noor5253 wrote:What KQ and his children have done is what is disgusting.
As they say in English "Dont bite the hand that feeds you". He had been fed for 50 years by Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Maula AQ and another 20+ years by Syedna Taher Saifuddin Maula AQ. But what did he do? He attacked the hand that fed him. Who would do such a thing? except...

Similarly, Gulam Shaitan has been barking on this forum for years. What happened? Dawat is running full fledged. He will continue barking and one day meet his Lord Shaitan in Hell.

The unfortunate thing about the KQ development is that he took many innocents with him with the help of his team of brainwashers..But inshallah, if it is in their naseeb, they will see the light.

Haqniwaat, It seems you are a close chamcha of KQ. Rather a mouthpiece of some sort. Keep spreading your propaganda. Eventually doodh ka doodh, pani ka pani will happen. Inshallah.
noor5253 sounds like you are some sort of a chamcha of MS. Rather a mouthpiece of some sort. Burhanuddin Aqa appointed SKQ as a Mazoon. STS RA trained SKQ into the early morning hours giving him sabaq and nurturing his nafs (Burhanuddin Moula RA pointed this out in waaz in Colombo) Indeed those were the hands from which SKQ has drunk water. YOU should indeed remember which hands have nurtured and shaped the soul of Dai az zaman Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin TUS whose name you took in misaaq for 50 years.
Crater (that of course is where you will end up).. you are just too smart for me.. me? chamcha? more like gulam of Mufaddal Maula TUS.. really Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA trained Kq to be a dai? . who told u? oh yes.. KQ himself .. u r truly blessed.. For more blessing, of course you can go to his evil son TB or his even more evil chhokri Badzat Tahera. of course Aziz and Abdul Gavi are also quite knowledgeable(in spreading propaganda)...

Can you imagine.. out of all his sons.. TB has not come to Mumbai even for ziyarat or anything. he is holed up in his rat hole. what everyone doesnt know is he has become a farmer with a 1000 acre farm in California.. he grows cactii of all things.. and sits there and spews his venom thru videos.. he realized how ugly he is.. so he now started sending out audios which has more SPITE and self praise in it than info.. but then, all who know TB know what kind of an ingrate he is..

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by adna_mumin » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:15 pm

noor5253 wrote: .. really Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA trained Kq to be a dai? . who told u? oh yes.. KQ himself .. u r truly blessed..
Bhai Noor5253 -

While some of us here seem to believe the Saheb that Syedna Mohammad Burhanuddin RA and Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA called "Al walad al ahabb" and who was appointed and served in the aala rutba of Mazoon of Syedna Burhanuddin RA.

And who are you going by? Dr Moiz BS
  • Who kept moving the mike away in the Raudat event when Burhanuddin Aqa RA continued to try to convey something?
    Is Moiz BS greater to you in rutba than Burhanuddin Aqa's Mazoon?
    The same Moiz BS who kept on doing araz in that day that Mohammad nahi Mufaddal ?
    And the same Moiz BS who removed the microphone and gestured to Moula RA to wait for another person's arz to complete? Really?
You really think he understood every word of what Moula RA was conveying as he read out? One has to ponder if true to oneself. You can deny all you want but Truth will shine Insha Allah TA.

Why even worry and cause self heartburn, the courts are going to review the evidence (including the letter produced one would presume) so instead of name calling why not pray ke Khuda TA give us the mohlat to be on Imaan. Aameen.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:55 pm

noor5253 wrote:What KQ and his children have done is what is disgusting.
As they say in English "Dont bite the hand that feeds you". He had been fed for 50 years by Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Maula AQ and another 20+ years by Syedna Taher Saifuddin Maula AQ. But what did he do? He attacked the hand that fed him. Who would do such a thing? except...

Similarly, Gulam Shaitan has been barking on this forum for years. What happened? Dawat is running full fledged. He will continue barking and one day meet his Lord Shaitan in Hell.

The unfortunate thing about the KQ development is that he took many innocents with him with the help of his team of brainwashers..But inshallah, if it is in their naseeb, they will see the light.

Haqniwaat, It seems you are a close chamcha of KQ. Rather a mouthpiece of some sort. Keep spreading your propaganda. Eventually doodh ka doodh, pani ka pani will happen. Inshallah.

Woooooooooooooooohooooooooooo one more entertainer by the name of noor5253(or some old abde with new id).

I love to read post were poor brain dead, illiterate abde get angry/jealous and write non-sensical things. Brother dont take out ur frustration on us for your master act, please.

Btw being a MS follower "How dare you forgot to mention MAULA MAULA MUFADDAL MAULA?" Dont u know ur aqa loves to hear this because he himself is not sure that he is dai.

Next time b careful and dont ever forget this otherwise ur master will get upset and you may end up paying HUGE amount or expensive gifts or sponsoring hunting trips.
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Unread post by SBM » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:13 pm

noor5253
Only one question, if all you say about SKQ and his children then why did not SMB removed him as Mazoon? If I agree with you about the wicked SKQ and evil sons then SMB should be responsible for corrupting a Dawat by keeping such a person as Mazoon.
Why the Ghayab Naa Jankaar let him stay at the 2nd highest Rutba for so long.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:00 pm

SBM wrote: if all you say about SKQ and his children then why did not SMB removed him as Mazoon? If I agree with you about the wicked SKQ and evil sons then SMB should be responsible for corrupting a Dawat by keeping such a person as Mazoon.
Now, he will come up with the stereotype answer which is drilled into their minds 24x7........ Nabi (s.a.w.) ye ola 3 ne kiva paala hata em Mola pan kare che, aa ma hikmat che je tame nahi jaano !!

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by UnhappyBohra » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:52 pm

noor5253 wrote:
Crater Lake wrote: noor5253 sounds like you are some sort of a chamcha of MS. Rather a mouthpiece of some sort. Burhanuddin Aqa appointed SKQ as a Mazoon. STS RA trained SKQ into the early morning hours giving him sabaq and nurturing his nafs (Burhanuddin Moula RA pointed this out in waaz in Colombo) Indeed those were the hands from which SKQ has drunk water. YOU should indeed remember which hands have nurtured and shaped the soul of Dai az zaman Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin TUS whose name you took in misaaq for 50 years.
Crater (that of course is where you will end up).. you are just too smart for me.. me? chamcha? more like gulam of Mufaddal Maula TUS.. really Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA trained Kq to be a dai? . who told u? oh yes.. KQ himself .. u r truly blessed.. For more blessing, of course you can go to his evil son TB or his even more evil chhokri Badzat Tahera. of course Aziz and Abdul Gavi are also quite knowledgeable(in spreading propaganda)...

Can you imagine.. out of all his sons.. TB has not come to Mumbai even for ziyarat or anything. he is holed up in his rat hole. what everyone doesnt know is he has become a farmer with a 1000 acre farm in California.. he grows cactii of all things.. and sits there and spews his venom thru videos.. he realized how ugly he is.. so he now started sending out audios which has more SPITE and self praise in it than info.. but then, all who know TB know what kind of an ingrate he is..
You moron read Crater's message again. Where did she say that STS RA made Qutbuddin Moula Dai. It was Burhanuddin Aqa who appointed him as Dai and it was he who said in Colombo ashara ke Bhai Khuzaima ni nafs bhi Syedna Taher Saifuddin ye tayyar kidhi che. SKQ TUS ye ilm nu pani Syedna Taher Saifuddin si peedhu che. It is ingrates like you that would rather that be forgotten. Shame on you. How do you sleep at night knowing that you are attacking the character of a man that Burhanuddin Moula had high regard for and appointed as Mazoon. It was MS that he kept by his side like Rasullulah did 123... and for the same reasons.

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Unread post by UnhappyBohra » Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:02 pm

adna_mumin wrote:
noor5253 wrote: .. really Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA trained Kq to be a dai? . who told u? oh yes.. KQ himself .. u r truly blessed..
Bhai Noor5253 -

While some of us here seem to believe the Saheb that Syedna Mohammad Burhanuddin RA and Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA called "Al walad al ahabb" and who was appointed and served in the aala rutba of Mazoon of Syedna Burhanuddin RA.

And who are you going by? Dr Moiz BS
  • Who kept moving the mike away in the Raudat event when Burhanuddin Aqa RA continued to try to convey something?
    Is Moiz BS greater to you in rutba than Burhanuddin Aqa's Mazoon?
    The same Moiz BS who kept on doing araz in that day that Mohammad nahi Mufaddal ?
    And the same Moiz BS who removed the microphone and gestured to Moula RA to wait for another person's arz to complete? Really?
You really think he understood every word of what Moula RA was conveying as he read out? One has to ponder if true to oneself. You can deny all you want but Truth will shine Insha Allah TA.

Why even worry and cause self heartburn, the courts are going to review the evidence (including the letter produced one would presume) so instead of name calling why not pray ke Khuda TA give us the mohlat to be on Imaan. Aameen.
Attaching the the audio adna_mumin is referring to. It corresponds approximately to the video from 26:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge9wG2Irv-Q
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Unread post by Crater Lake » Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:15 pm

noor5253 wrote:
Crater (that of course is where you will end up).. you are just too smart for me.. me? chamcha? more like gulam of Mufaddal Maula TUS.. really Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA trained Kq to be a dai? . who told u? oh yes.. KQ himself .. u r truly blessed.. For more blessing, of course you can go to his evil son TB or his even more evil chhokri Badzat Tahera. of course Aziz and Abdul Gavi are also quite knowledgeable(in spreading propaganda)...

Can you imagine.. out of all his sons.. TB has not come to Mumbai even for ziyarat or anything. he is holed up in his rat hole. what everyone doesnt know is he has become a farmer with a 1000 acre farm in California.. he grows cactii of all things.. and sits there and spews his venom thru videos.. he realized how ugly he is.. so he now started sending out audios which has more SPITE and self praise in it than info.. but then, all who know TB know what kind of an ingrate he is..
Like every abde of MS that visits this site, it took Noor5253 one post to make baseless attacks on SKQ, two to slander me and tell me I would end up in a Crater (when in fact I am swimming in the cool waters of a Crater Lake) , and three to slander Taher bhaisaheb, who Alhamdolillah is a man of character and whose farm Alhamdolillah is flourishing.

When people without ideas enter a discussion, they invariably end up disclosing the smallness of their minds in no time. Go attend your MS bayans noor5253. That's all you are fit for. Oh yeah and don't forget to nara loudly....

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Unread post by think_for_yourself » Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:31 pm

UnhappyBohra wrote:

Attaching the the audio adna_mumin is referring to. It corresponds approximately to the video from 26:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge9wG2Irv-Q
I have done this many times. Listened to this audio and watched the video from 26:50. It is clear as daylight that Aqa Moula Burhanuddin
1) did not say what moiz bhaisab claims he did.
2)With all due respect was not of sound mind and body on that day in Raudat Tahera.

I have also watched the Cromwell video, there was no spoken nass in that video. Placing some nass audio prior to that video was just a PR stunt. Noor5253, propoganda is what your master does! Take a break buddy, have some coffee and attend the MS bayan. There is a LOT of information and ilm there :lol:

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by truth seeker100 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:46 pm

noor53 if anybody's lord is shaitan it's muffu's and you will follow him straight to his lord shaitan
joker joker muffu joker

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by Moiz_Dhaanu » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:30 pm

noor5253 wrote:What KQ and his children have done is what is disgusting.
As they say in English "Dont bite the hand that feeds you". He had been fed for 50 years by Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Maula AQ and another 20+ years by Syedna Taher Saifuddin Maula AQ. But what did he do? He attacked the hand that fed him. Who would do such a thing? except...
Similarly, Gulam Shaitan has been barking on this forum for years. What happened? Dawat is running full fledged. He will continue barking and one day meet his Lord Shaitan in Hell.
The unfortunate thing about the KQ development is that he took many innocents with him with the help of his team of brainwashers..But inshallah, if it is in their naseeb, they will see the light.
Haqniwaat, It seems you are a close chamcha of KQ. Rather a mouthpiece of some sort. Keep spreading your propaganda. Eventually doodh ka doodh, pani ka pani will happen. Inshallah.
noor5253 wrote:Crater (that of course is where you will end up).. you are just too smart for me.. me? chamcha? more like gulam of Mufaddal Maula TUS.. really Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA trained Kq to be a dai? . who told u? oh yes.. KQ himself .. u r truly blessed.. For more blessing, of course you can go to his evil son TB or his even more evil chhokri Badzat Tahera. of course Aziz and Abdul Gavi are also quite knowledgeable(in spreading propaganda)...
Can you imagine.. out of all his sons.. TB has not come to Mumbai even for ziyarat or anything. he is holed up in his rat hole. what everyone doesnt know is he has become a farmer with a 1000 acre farm in California.. he grows cactii of all things.. and sits there and spews his venom thru videos.. he realized how ugly he is.. so he now started sending out audios which has more SPITE and self praise in it than info.. but then, all who know TB know what kind of an ingrate he is..
Mr.noor5253
Lets first start with your screen name "noor5253"
Abdes like you are so ridiculously ignorant that they put 5253 in front of everything .
Would it not have earned you more accolades in the eyes of ShzMS if you had instead named yourself "noor1234567..50515253" (Starting 1 for 1st Dai) ...... What a joke you abdes are!!

Now with a calm mind, just go over your above 2 post and you will realise what filthy language you are accustomed to using. Just goes to show what happens to someone(like you) when they attend ShzMS speeches(i dont think they are worth to be called waaz).
You sound just like your master (full of hate and venom)
In fact the crude grammar and sentence making skills of your post, indicate that you really have peaked in your immaturity and foul character.

Secondly
Since you consider yourself a "Gulam of ShzMS"..you should know that in order for you to qualify for that title you and your family must have fulfilled the below list of farman-e-aali . Have you already accomplshed these below farmaan-e-aali ?

1)You should have tied your terminally-ill old father and paraded him around the shop. If that opportunity has not arisen yet then make sure that when your father gets really old , make him sit in chair for 3-4 hours even though doctor has advised him complete bed-rest.

2)You or your blood relatives should have absolutely no dealings with a bank..(have never used a cheque-book, in fact even never paid wajebaat via DD/Money-Order, coz DD requires you to interact with a Bank, which your moula is against)

3) You and None of your kids/wife/blood relatives had or have a Facebook account.(farman-e-aali ShzMS given few years back in Cairo)

4) Going forward, you will celebrate your birthday with "over-the-moon" pomp and female family members will even put mehndi on your birthday in the year your parents pass away. (ShzMS and Qasre-ali did exactly this, so its your Farz to follow his footstep)

5) The women in the house should not learn anything except "home science", if they have already obtained any other education , then you should throw them out of the house or make them sit in one corner of the house (what a farmaan..lol)

6) Never have send or will send your boys for further education in any western country , since ShzMS has ,on many public occasion, shown his disapproval to wannabe students from attending western universities.

7) Both male and female members in your family have taken or have started taking roti-making lessons dilligently(no excuses) , or else even your ShzMS wont be able to take you into Jannat (ShMS himself has started taking classes and we have seen pictures of him doing that)

8 ) You agree not to go to Haj or any other ziarat, nor will yo do Nikah, nor will you bury your Dead(Raza will not be granted) , if you do not take FMB thaali. You may be dying of Blood pressure or Diabetes, but you still will only eat Thaali Food(no matter how unhealthy or bad-tasting)

9) You will allow corruption and looting(infact reward those who do bad-behaviour), and turn a Blind-eye to all nasty things going on in your home and business. Since ShzMS does exactly same in his dawat ,and expects his followers to do the same.

10) Have always worn a helmet when riding a two wheeler , and should continue doing so(farman-e-aali ShzMS given few years back )


So accordingly, if you have'nt already abided or are unwilling to abide by these above things in the future , then first you should do ziyafat in swimming pool, and ask for forgiveness from ShzMS , and only then can you call yourself "gulam of Mufaddal Maula"
Then after taking raza and khushi come back with a "Bent spine" back to this forum. Please bring a certified copy from Al-vazaarat that you have successfully done the above list of things. :mrgreen:

May you get Taufeek from above to carry out these steps ..lol

P.S. I and others on this forum still have enough dignity in our posts to call him SHzMS
But vulgar miscreants like you call him KQ/Dawedaar . Just goes to show what cheap upbringing and roadside manners you were exposed to.

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Unread post by aliabbaskhw » Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:09 am

Well Said Moiz

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Unread post by zinger » Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:21 am

noor5253 wrote:What KQ and his children have done is what is disgusting.
As they say in English "Dont bite the hand that feeds you". He had been fed for 50 years by Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Maula AQ and another 20+ years by Syedna Taher Saifuddin Maula AQ. But what did he do? He attacked the hand that fed him. Who would do such a thing? except...

Similarly, Gulam Shaitan has been barking on this forum for years. What happened? Dawat is running full fledged. He will continue barking and one day meet his Lord Shaitan in Hell.

The unfortunate thing about the KQ development is that he took many innocents with him with the help of his team of brainwashers..But inshallah, if it is in their naseeb, they will see the light.

Haqniwaat, It seems you are a close chamcha of KQ. Rather a mouthpiece of some sort. Keep spreading your propaganda. Eventually doodh ka doodh, pani ka pani will happen. Inshallah.
Noorbhai, i speak for myself when i say this.

i was a firm believer of Burhanuddin Maula RA. i loved him with all my heart.
when he did nuss on Mufaddal Maula, i had huge hopes from him. but in the 3 years when he was mansoos, in the hayaati of Burhanuddin Maula, he did many silly things, which even then, i ignored.
after the wafaat of Burhanuddin Maula RA, for quite some time, i referred to Mufaddal Maula as Syedna, although in my heart, all this lanaat baazi, Saheb e daawat loot, banning of education for women, roti making importance, etc was extremely off-putting for me, but i kept mum

but what finally broke the back of this camel was when sons of ex-Mazun Maula were attacked, when they came to do ziarat of their own grandfather and kaka, 51st and 52nd Dai. that is the day i said enough is enough, no more. i can no longer defend a man for whom i have lost all respect. had he condemned the people who did it, he would have actually gone up many notches in my eyes, but his silence spoke a million words for me

the people you are abusing today, i hope you realise that the blood in their veins is the same blood of Taher Saifuddin Maula RA, Burhanuddin Maula RA and Mufaddal Maula. So before you abuse them, please do keep this in mind.

i know this for sure, if ex-Mazun maula wins the case, i will know where to go. If Mufaddal Maula wins, i know i will not join him.

You have had 48'ers right, well, i just might become a 52'er. who knows.

as for your languages, great going, there is only one person on this site who is filled with more hate and poison than you, so keep at it and you might overtake him too some day

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Unread post by truth seeker100 » Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:32 am

who exactly is that person?

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:51 pm

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Unread post by humanbeing » Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:30 am

Yesterday, at STS urus majlis, the amil was doling out some creative information such as :

“Imam Ali wrote the name of Dais till Qayamat”

“Dais are like sura of Quran !, although there is no specific mention which Dai is which Sura, but STS has been honored as Sura-al-yaseen”

“STS purchased Saifee Mahal from peerbhoy family”

“STS won 28 cases filed against him”

“Peerbhoy’s offsprings went bankcrupt fighting the cases, such was the state of their poverty, that they could not afford the tram-ticket to travel”

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Unread post by asad » Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:18 am

humanbeing wrote:Yesterday, at STS urus majlis, the amil was doling out some creative information such as :

“Imam Ali wrote the name of Dais till Qayamat”

“Dais are like sura of Quran !, although there is no specific mention which Dai is which Sura, but STS has been honored as Sura-al-yaseen”

“STS purchased Saifee Mahal from peerbhoy family”

“STS won 28 cases filed against him”

“Peerbhoy’s offsprings went bankcrupt fighting the cases, such was the state of their poverty, that they could not afford the tram-ticket to travel”
Br. Human Being,

Same message was relayed in my center, as usual the content was dictated by Kothar and Aamils have to read it verbatim.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by subcon111 » Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:34 am

Same message was preached in North America as well. In our centre the theme was the same, the examples given were different from what Br. Humanbeing and Br. Asad heard.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by rational_guy » Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:56 pm

786
Surat Baqarah Ayat 6 to 16
إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ سَوَآءٌ عَلَيۡهِمۡ ءَأَنذَرۡتَهُمۡ أَمۡ لَمۡ تُنذِرۡهُمۡ لَا يُؤۡمِنُونَ (٦) خَتَمَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَىٰ قُلُوبِهِمۡ وَعَلَىٰ سَمۡعِهِمۡ‌ۖ وَعَلَىٰٓ أَبۡصَـٰرِهِمۡ غِشَـٰوَةٌ۬‌ۖ وَلَهُمۡ عَذَابٌ عَظِيمٌ۬ (٧) وَمِنَ ٱلنَّاسِ مَن يَقُولُ ءَامَنَّا بِٱللَّهِ وَبِٱلۡيَوۡمِ ٱلۡأَخِرِ وَمَا هُم بِمُؤۡمِنِينَ (٨) يُخَـٰدِعُونَ ٱللَّهَ وَٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ وَمَا يَخۡدَعُونَ إِلَّآ أَنفُسَهُمۡ وَمَا يَشۡعُرُونَ (٩) فِى قُلُوبِهِم مَّرَضٌ۬ فَزَادَهُمُ ٱللَّهُ مَرَضً۬ا‌ۖ وَلَهُمۡ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمُۢ بِمَا كَانُواْ يَكۡذِبُونَ (١٠) وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمۡ لَا تُفۡسِدُواْ فِى ٱلۡأَرۡضِ قَالُوٓاْ إِنَّمَا نَحۡنُ مُصۡلِحُونَ (١١) أَلَآ إِنَّهُمۡ هُمُ ٱلۡمُفۡسِدُونَ وَلَـٰكِن لَّا يَشۡعُرُونَ (١٢) وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمۡ ءَامِنُواْ كَمَآ ءَامَنَ ٱلنَّاسُ قَالُوٓاْ أَنُؤۡمِنُ كَمَآ ءَامَنَ ٱلسُّفَهَآءُ‌ۗ أَلَآ إِنَّهُمۡ هُمُ ٱلسُّفَهَآءُ وَلَـٰكِن لَّا يَعۡلَمُونَ (١٣) وَإِذَا لَقُواْ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ قَالُوٓاْ ءَامَنَّا وَإِذَا خَلَوۡاْ إِلَىٰ شَيَـٰطِينِهِمۡ قَالُوٓاْ إِنَّا مَعَكُمۡ إِنَّمَا نَحۡنُ مُسۡتَہۡزِءُونَ (١٤) ٱللَّهُ يَسۡتَہۡزِئُ بِہِمۡ وَيَمُدُّهُمۡ فِى طُغۡيَـٰنِهِمۡ يَعۡمَهُونَ (١٥) أُوْلَـٰٓٮِٕكَ ٱلَّذِينَ ٱشۡتَرَوُاْ ٱلضَّلَـٰلَةَ بِٱلۡهُدَىٰ فَمَا رَبِحَت تِّجَـٰرَتُهُمۡ وَمَا كَانُواْ مُهۡتَدِينَ
Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe.
Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment.
And of the people are some who say, "We believe in Allah and the Last Day," but they are not believers.
They [think to] deceive Allah and those who believe, but they deceive not except themselves and perceive [it] not.
In their hearts is disease, so Allah has increased their disease; and for them is a painful punishment because they [habitually] used to lie.
And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth," they say, "We are but reformers."
Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive [it] not.
And when it is said to them, "Believe as the people have believed," they say, "Should we believe as the foolish have believed?" Unquestionably, it is they who are the foolish, but they know [it] not.
And when they meet those who believe, they say, "We believe"; but when they are alone with their evil ones, they say, "Indeed, we are with you; we were only mockers."
[But] Allah mocks them and prolongs them in their transgression [while] they wander blindly.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by subcon111 » Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:28 pm

Isn't it too early to compare SMS to his grandfather and Syedna Abdeali Saifuddin? Regardless of what people think of Syedna Taher Saifuddin, he had knowledge, he was wordly-wise and was very astute. The same still cannot be said of SMS. And Syedna Abdeali Saifudding was really 'Shamshud Dualtul Mutlaqeen'. A sea of knowledge and sabr. Neither by his bayaans or actions has SMS proven (yet) that he is the waaris of these 2 Dais. The name is not everything.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by UnhappyBohra » Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:55 pm

subcon111 wrote:Isn't it too early to compare SMS to his grandfather and Syedna Abdeali Saifuddin? Regardless of what people think of Syedna Taher Saifuddin, he had knowledge, he was wordly-wise and was very astute. The same still cannot be said of SMS. And Syedna Abdeali Saifudding was really 'Shamshud Dualtul Mutlaqeen'. A sea of knowledge and sabr. Neither by his bayaans or actions has SMS proven (yet) that he is the waaris of these 2 Dais. The name is not everything.
Indeed a turd by any other name stinks just as bad.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by humanbeing » Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:59 am

MS bhaisaab at its best is an opportunist born with a golden spoon. Although he is 70 years old, but his maturity / knowledge / patience is similar to that of a short tempered teenager ! his oratory skills are aweful. He lacks understanding, compassion and complexity of commoner’s lives. Passing fatwas and farmans at his whims and fancies. His tenure is filled with messy planned campaigns and schemes which his staff is forcing down the community’s throat to keep his ego and reputation sailing.

He is busy hopping flights, helicopters and luxury car rides at abde’s expenses, touring the world and hunting trips. He seems to be on a gala vacation all the time. More than a composed duaat, he comes across as a wide eyed vacationer ! myopic, self centered approach towards wordly problems. More political than spiritual.

By far and large he cannot be compared with previous duaats or even a decent commoner who leads a life of struggle to earn honest bread and butter. He can be placed with the likes of tyrant kings and dictators. His actions (ayyashi) are loud and words (laanatbaazi) louder.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by alam » Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:25 am

Continuing Humanbeing's drift . . .
And QJ singing laanuts while blowing trumpets of these same MS qualities in masjid shows the hatred preached in the name of mazhab, imaan.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by haqniwaat » Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:56 pm

It's quite obvious that Qaid bs is losing his self confidence and "doubt" is transforming him into a rambling monkey!

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by everest » Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:03 pm

People are slowly defecting and the trickle will turn into a flow. For those who don't have the courage to break away, they are surely more vigilant and cynical of the bull crap being spread at the majlises. The masses are being more careful with how they spend their cash and all the awakening is driving the kothar into panic mode. If anything, the lanat parties are only going to back fire more with the thinking public. The unraveling has begun, slowly but surely

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by humanbeing » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:12 am

everest wrote:The masses are being more careful with how they spend their cash and all the awakening is driving the kothar into panic mode.
True ! Due to technological advancements, kothar cannot control information that they would previously withhold. Technology has helped kothar spread its control as well expose their ayyashi.

Particularly, SMS rule so far has been of negative vibes, be it his sermons or policies and outlook on commoners as well as schemes and campaigns have been shallow and short sighted. Frequency of Ziyafat has multiplied many folds. His tone in the bayans towards general public is mostly arrogant and scolding of not being up to his expectations.

If bohra community continues to do outward tamasha and SMS flaunting his high-flying life style, soon we will loose that peace loving community tag. And bohra dais will be considered as just another mullah-maulvi-saadhu-religious godmen conning people to lead ayyash life.

There is an embarrassing hysteria people resort to on streets when SMS convoy passes. Muslims consider it shirk and non muslims consider it funny, either ways it is an embarrassing presentation of bohra community.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:20 pm

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