Events on Imam's Milad

[Biradar]

As expected, SMS (TUS) has asked everyone the world over to attend his waaz on Imam's milad, and if they can't, then listen to live relay. What that means is that all brain-dead Bohra's will be heading to masjid and markaz at night to listen to Allah knows what. Here on the East coast we have had a terrible snow storm, making driving hazardous. Of course, the mad-man in Mumbai probably cares little. In fact, for him, it is a way for die-hard fanatics to show their devotion to their new Dear Leader (TUS), by driving on snow and ice covered roads, risking their life and limb in the process.

Of course, strict instructions have given that everyone must bring fakhir najwaa for Imam al-zamaan and Dear Leader (TUS). Even during time of mourning the mullah does not want the money flow to stop. Shameful.

This whole tamasha has shown, clearly and unambiguously, that all the mullahs really want is control over Bohra lives, and more and more money. With SKQ challenging the new Taliban like Dear Leader (TUS), things are just getting more crazy, with the Bohras now being made to bend over backwards to prove their loyalty to the new regime.

One good thing to come out of this mess is the clear indication that the Bohra da'i is not infallible, neither is he above propaganda and manipulation to drive his hordes into fanatic rage. Of course, all readers of this forum have known this for years, but now the common Bohra is waking out of his slumber. Not that it will make much of a difference, as these money-grubbing rascals have so taken over Bohra lives that there is very little common Bohras can do. Of course, they can just leave, but accustomed to the non-stop jamaan, emotional bayaans and 24/7 immersion in masjid-markaz, this option seems impossible.

One also wonders at the timing. All this while, SMS (TUS) has kept his mouth shut. But, now that SKQ announced his plans to conduct misaaq, SMS (TUS) suddenly woke up, hastily calling together his fanatics to come listen to his nonsense bayaans. Actually, if SMS (TUS) had kept his mouth shut the last two years, we would not have realized what type of mad-man he is, till it was too late. Somehow, divine providence conspired to show us his true colors.

Only Allah can help these poor abde-SMS (TUS) now.

[alam]

As expected, SMS (TUS) has asked everyone the world over to attend his waaz on Imam's milad, and if they can't, then listen to live relay. What that means is that all brain-dead Bohra's will be heading to masjid and markaz at night to listen to Allah knows what.. ..
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One also wonders at the timing. All this while, SMS (TUS) has kept his mouth shut. But, now that SKQ announced his plans to conduct misaaq, SMS (TUS) suddenly woke up, hastily calling together his fanatics to come listen to his nonsense bayaans. Actually, if SMS (TUS) had kept his mouth shut the last two years, we would not have realized what type of mad-man he is, till it was too late. Somehow, divine providence conspired to show us his true colors.

Only Allah can help these poor abde-SMS (TUS) now.

Fear not brothers, SMS bayaan is a carefully scripted, choreographed well rehearsed speech- written and finalized by the speech writers. He is under the command to Not Deviate from the script at all, and is trying hard to memorize it like a parrot. He's had two weeks of practice now, so he better deliver.

Otherwise QJ Is ousting him from the podium - oops, mic, and the takhat.

ALLAH is helping - always has always will.

[Al Zulfiqar]

of course, sms is out to collect as much moolah as possible in case KQ succeeds in toppling him from his gaddi. asking a question whether muffy cares about whats happening with his slaves anywhere is a purely rhetorical one. of course he couldn’t care 2 hoots whether the ordinary bloody bohra lives or dies in a stampede as long as he can retain his gaddi and the loot keeps flowing into his coffers in copious amounts!

as rightly mentioned, this whole crisis has clearly dispelled 2 myths.

1. there is no such nonsense as infallibility of a dai. they are, were and will remain in the future as idols of clay, as prone to making serious blunders as anyone else. this episode confirms it.
2. an even more profound myth destroyed and blasted into smithereens - THERE IS NO IMAM! many such splits happened in the past, but those were days when we were under risk of persecution by sunni nawabs and sultans, so it would be understandable that the hidden imam did not reveal himself. but what's stopping him now? for arguments sake, he can seek protection from the govt at the highest level. he will be accorded Z level security. there is no danger of persecution at all.
3. the 51st went on court record claiming that the whole concept of a hidden imam is a `belief`, merely a belief, and the imam does not actually exist in his knowledge, but is fundamental to the faith system of a bohra. this was in response to the prosecutor demanding to know the whereabouts of this imam in seclusion with whom sts claimed to be in constant contact. now if someone of the level of the 51st, whom the modern day kothar reveres as `shamsul -doat-ul-mutleqeen`or the greatest of all dai`s, can disclaim the concept of hidden imam, and the present crisis in a teacup highlights it, then the whole myth is debunked.
4. if someone has the guts, let them file a habeas corpus writ in the supreme court of india. produce the `body` of the imam or failing which, declare the bohras as fairy tale believers. without this belief, which is the central plank of bohra doctrinal faith, the bohras should cease to exist.
5. this should be a challenge to the hidden imam if he or she is reading this. either you reveal yourself, assume powers invested in you and hurl all these imposters and charlatans into the gutter where they belong, or we will conclude definitively that you don’t exist.
6. as the imam, of course your intuitions must be legendary and so must be your intelligence and ghaib nu ilm. it must be therefore abundanty clear to you, o imam, that the future of bohras under muffy is extremely bleak. the community as a whole is being driven to kufr, but the bohra women are being driven into the pre-islamic age of jahiliyya. is this something that you, o imam, would allow and tolerate, letting pirates and ruthless opportunists sully your name?

I write this, not as an official reformist or kq believer, but as someone who has got so disgusted with all the stupidity, nonsense, extortion, degradation, loot and deliberate deception of bohras that i have finally decided to break all relations with the bohra jamaat and live my life in supreme bliss, free as a bird, beholden to no one. esp. not to a bunch of thugs and haramkhors.

[JC]

On Imam's Salgirah (I donot want to call it Milad as then it automatically compares it to Eid Milda-un-Nabi and equates) Night they showed a video of Raat in Mumbai ......... they clearly showed Dear Leader's Talented Brothers doing sajda to him ......... hundreds saw this..!! They again bought very frail Muksir to do slavery and presnet Najwa ........ Idris, since he has got chance now, spoke, utter useless and then came Quid Joker ...... reminding abdes we are GHULAMS 'only' ........... and top of it presented 'Haq-un-Nafs' to Muffi .......!!!! No abde would have any idea of what this is .......... but this is an ADDITION to Fakhir Najwa covers ......... from tomorrow there will be not only Najwa, Silat, Hussaini Qardan, Taheri Qardan, Mohammadi Qardan but one for Haq-un-Nafs too .........

[Mazakyo]

of course, sms is out to collect as much moolah as possible in case KQ succeeds in toppling him from his gaddi. asking a question whether muffy cares about whats happening with his slaves anywhere is a purely rhetorical one. of course he couldn’t care 2 hoots whether the ordinary bloody bohra lives or dies in a stampede as long as he can retain his gaddi and the loot keeps flowing into his coffers in copious amounts!

as rightly mentioned, this whole crisis has clearly dispelled 2 myths.

1. there is no such nonsense as infallibility of a dai. they are, were and will remain in the future as idols of clay, as prone to making serious blunders as anyone else. this episode confirms it.
2. an even more profound myth destroyed and blasted into smithereens - THERE IS NO IMAM! many such splits happened in the past, but those were days when we were under risk of persecution by sunni nawabs and sultans, so it would be understandable that the hidden imam did not reveal himself. but what's stopping him now? for arguments sake, he can seek protection from the govt at the highest level. he will be accorded Z level security. there is no danger of persecution at all.
3. the 51st went on court record claiming that the whole concept of a hidden imam is a `belief`, merely a belief, and the imam does not actually exist in his knowledge, but is fundamental to the faith system of a bohra. this was in response to the prosecutor demanding to know the whereabouts of this imam in seclusion with whom sts claimed to be in constant contact. now if someone of the level of the 51st, whom the modern day kothar reveres as `shamsul -doat-ul-mutleqeen`or the greatest of all dai`s, can disclaim the concept of hidden imam, and the present crisis in a teacup highlights it, then the whole myth is debunked.
4. if someone has the guts, let them file a habeas corpus writ in the supreme court of india. produce the `body` of the imam or failing which, declare the bohras as fairy tale believers. without this belief, which is the central plank of bohra doctrinal faith, the bohras should cease to exist.
5. this should be a challenge to the hidden imam if he or she is reading this. either you reveal yourself, assume powers invested in you and hurl all these imposters and charlatans into the gutter where they belong, or we will conclude definitively that you don’t exist.
6. as the imam, of course your intuitions must be legendary and so must be your intelligence and ghaib nu ilm. it must be therefore abundanty clear to you, o imam, that the future of bohras under muffy is extremely bleak. the community as a whole is being driven to kufr, but the bohra women are being driven into the pre-islamic age of jahiliyya. is this something that you, o imam, would allow and tolerate, letting pirates and ruthless opportunists sully your name?

I write this, not as an official reformist or kq believer, but as someone who has got so disgusted with all the stupidity, nonsense, extortion, degradation, loot and deliberate deception of bohras that i have finally decided to break all relations with the bohra jamaat and live my life in supreme bliss, free as a bird, beholden to no one. esp. not to a bunch of thugs and haramkhors.

Zulfi chor dey yaar. Kuyn apna blood pressure high kar raha hai? Imam kay pass iss website a link bhi nahi hai.

[ghulam muhammed]

Of course, strict instructions have given that everyone must bring fakhir najwaa for Imam al-zamaan and Dear Leader (TUS). Even during time of mourning the mullah does not want the money flow to stop. Shameful.

This is in addition to the fakhir najwa for 'Qarde Hasanah' which bohras have to give not only during Friday prayers in Masjid but even during the 40 days Khatmul Quran majlises held across the globe when SMS agents are seen roaming around with Jhollas asking for alms... oops Qarde Hasanah !!

[JC]

Money, Money, Money ......... day day day bus day ....... keesee kay naam par sahee, bus day day day, Allah kay naam pay day, Nabi, Wasi, Imam, Dai, Qardan, etc etc bus day day day ....... daytay ja, daytay ja..!!!

[ghulam muhammed]

FROM HOUSTON JAMAAT :-

Milad Imamuz Zaman


On Monday 4th raat of Rabilul Akhar (Feb 3rd), Imamuz Zaman's milaad raat, khushi ni majlis will be held immediately after Maghrib and Isha namaz. After Sherbet and wadhawanu, we will Insha Allah get the barakaat of watching video of majlis of Aqa Moula TUS in Mumbai. Mumineen are requested to bring Silatul Imam AS and Aqa Moula TUS najwa.

On Tuesday Imamuz Zaman's milaad day, video relay of Aqa Moula TUS waez mubarak will Insha Allah be shown immediately after Maghrib and Isha namaz.

Mumineen are requested to come on time on both days and get the barakaat of these auspicous days. Salwat jaman will be served on both days after majlis, all mumineen, muminaat and farzando are cordially given izan.

ITS ( E-jamaat ) cards will be scanned on both days, everyone is requested to please bring their ITS cards with them.

[Biradar]

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ITS ( E-jamaat ) cards will be scanned on both days, everyone is requested to please bring their ITS cards with them.

So, given all the emotional drama perpetuated by SMS (TUS), specially after he has sat silent while his brother went berserk with hatred, and he himself also for the last few decades, what this shows is that all of his rhetoric is just that. Empty words. In reality, he is telling his goon aamils to track who attends and who does not and make sure "appropriate action" is taken against those who do not come.

Besides, he has already launched a war against half his followers by commanding to sit in the corner and stitch, weave and cook. So, these are, one may conclude, crocodile tears.

[Qutbi-Hero]

1. there is no such nonsense as infallibility of a dai. they are, were and will remain in the future as idols of clay, as prone to making serious blunders as anyone else. this episode confirms it.

I'm not sure about Dai's myself - but taking your argument back to the beginning...
Do you think RasulAllah made a serious blunder with his succession as well?
Do you think that His infallibility is nonsense too?

2. an even more profound myth destroyed and blasted into smithereens - THERE IS NO IMAM! many such splits happened in the past, but those were days when we were under risk of persecution by sunni nawabs and sultans, so it would be understandable that the hidden imam did not reveal himself. but what's stopping him now? for arguments sake, he can seek protection from the govt at the highest level. he will be accorded Z level security. there is no danger of persecution at all.

Yes, I'm sure if the Imam exists and does reveal himself today... he would be assigned 24-hour guard by the FBI, KGB, MI6 etc - indeed James Bond himself would protect him, right?
If anything dude, the Imam would be in greater danger now than ever - Global Islamophobia, Western Imperialism, Sunni Fanaticism etc... and lets not forget that our very own Kothar (his supposed allies/disciples) would be his biggest enemy!

3. the 51st went on court record claiming that the whole concept of a hidden imam is a `belief`, merely a belief, and the imam does not actually exist in his knowledge, but is fundamental to the faith system of a bohra. this was in response to the prosecutor demanding to know the whereabouts of this imam in seclusion with whom sts claimed to be in constant contact. now if someone of the level of the 51st, whom the modern day kothar reveres as `shamsul -doat-ul-mutleqeen`or the greatest of all dai`s, can disclaim the concept of hidden imam, and the present crisis in a teacup highlights it, then the whole myth is debunked.

I've always suspected this...
Is there a transcript of his testimony anywhere?
At the same time, I suppose he could have been using good old Taqiyya lol.

4. if someone has the guts, let them file a habeas corpus writ in the supreme court of india. produce the `body` of the imam or failing which, declare the bohras as fairy tale believers. without this belief, which is the central plank of bohra doctrinal faith, the bohras should cease to exist.

The central plank of Bohra belief, indeed all Muslim belief... is that a lowly Arab was visited by an invisible Angel sent by an invisible God, to dictate to him a miraculous book, which is eternally protected and perfect in every way...
Millions upon millions of Atheists refute this widely held belief, and downgrade it to being merely a "fairy-tale"... does this mean Islam should cease to exist?
Should Islam be "proved" by Lawyers in a Supreme Court... or perhaps by Academics in a "Scientific Court"... before people are allowed to have faith in it?

5. this should be a challenge to the hidden imam if he or she is reading this.

If he does exist... do you honestly think he'd be on this forum?
Please explain why you feel this would be so!

either you reveal yourself, assume powers invested in you and hurl all these imposters and charlatans into the gutter where they belong, or we will conclude definitively that you don’t exist.

Are you going to challenge God himself in the same way?
Why doesn't He hurl all the imposters and charlatans in to the gutter where they belong?
With so many Religions in the world and so many divisions within them... not to mention all the tragedy and death this has caused throughout the ages... why doesn't Allah reveal himself to bring an end to all the conflict and chaos?

6. as the imam, of course your intuitions must be legendary and so must be your intelligence and ghaib nu ilm. it must be therefore abundanty clear to you, o imam, that the future of bohras under muffy is extremely bleak. the community as a whole is being driven to kufr, but the bohra women are being driven into the pre-islamic age of jahiliyya. is this something that you, o imam, would allow and tolerate, letting pirates and ruthless opportunists sully your name?

As point 5 above, I suppose you could just as easily say :-

6. as Almighty God, of course your intuitions must be legendary and so must be your intelligence and ghaib nu ilm. it must be therefore abundanty clear to you, o Allah, that the future of bohras under muffy is extremely bleak. the community as a whole is being driven to kufr, but the bohra women are being driven into the pre-islamic age of jahiliyya. is this something that you, o Allah, would allow and tolerate, letting pirates and ruthless opportunists sully your name?

I write this, not as an official reformist or kq believer, but as someone who has got so disgusted with all the stupidity, nonsense, extortion, degradation, loot and deliberate deception of bohras that i have finally decided to break all relations with the bohra jamaat and live my life in supreme bliss, free as a bird, beholden to no one. esp. not to a bunch of thugs and haramkhors.

True, yet here you are... full of more angst and frustration then even a full member of the Bohra Jammat!
I guess you're not really "free as a bird" after all AZ... still good to have you back, although it's a shame that you couldn't completely let go and move on with your life in "supreme bliss"...

PS: It's a strange thing being a Bohra isn't it - no matter how hard people try to leave physically... they always come back in the end mentally... simply forgetting about us seems next to impossible for most...

[ghulam muhammed]

In reality, he is telling his goon aamils to track who attends and who does not and make sure "appropriate action" is taken against those who do not come.

This reminds me of the wedding of Iqbal Kaskar, brother of underworld don Dawood Ibrahim when every goonda living in any part of Mumbai made it a point to compulsorily attend the function or else he would be seen as a member of the rival gang of Arun Gawli or Chhota Rajan and gunned down anytime !!

[shehzada]

To: All Students of Madrasatul Kalimiyah from the Madrasa Team

Tonight we are going to stay awake at the masjid listening to the very first Waaz of our Aqa Maula Syedna Aali Qadr Mufaddal Saifuddin tus as the 53rd Dai al Mutlaq. It will be like Lailatul Qadr. (Jagwaani Raat). Just as none of us would ever consider staying home on Jagwaani Raat, we cannot be sleeping at home tonight. Amazing isn't it, that Syedna Mufaddal Maula tus is born on Ramazan 23 which is Lailatul Qadr!

We look forward to seeing each and everyone of you at the masjid for the Waaz. Maula tus will be happy and proud of his children. And whoever makes Maula tus happy makes us all happy and proud.


Let the brain washing begin early and often....

[guy_sam2005]

On Imam's Salgirah (I donot want to call it Milad as then it automatically compares it to Eid Milda-un-Nabi and equates) Night they showed a video of Raat in Mumbai ......... they clearly showed Dear Leader's Talented Brothers doing sajda to him ......... hundreds saw this..!! They again bought very frail Muksir to do slavery and presnet Najwa ........ Idris, since he has got chance now, spoke, utter useless and then came Quid Joker ...... reminding abdes we are GHULAMS 'only' ........... and top of it presented 'Haq-un-Nafs' to Muffi .......!!!! No abde would have any idea of what this is .......... but this is an ADDITION to Fakhir Najwa covers ......... from tomorrow there will be not only Najwa, Silat, Hussaini Qardan, Taheri Qardan, Mohammadi Qardan but one for Haq-un-Nafs too .........

Admin,wat happened to your rules for no name calling...and bannin people indulging in same.....Are you gonna overlook jc and cuz az ur prodigal son of the forum is back on all cylinders firing....

[Starwars]

Money, Money, Money ......... day day day bus day ....... keesee kay naam par sahee, bus day day day, Allah kay naam pay day, Nabi, Wasi, Imam, Dai, Qardan, etc etc bus day day day ....... daytay ja, daytay ja..!!!

EXCELLENT!

[Free_Spirit]

Next we will have to file returns and show our income and pay religious taxes accordingly……we already have PAN cards

[JC]

Next we will have to file returns and show our income and pay religious taxes accordingly……we already have PAN cards

Sorry Free Spirit ......... we will NOT have to file 'returns' and SHOW 'income' ....... and PAY religious taxes accordingly, NOT going to happen ............... what is going to happen is SIMPLE, give Dawat-e-Hadiyah' account details to your employer ........ your salary will be directly deposited to Dawat account AND you will stand in queue every month to get your Dabba from FMB ........... and stipend to buy clothes ......... soon a sub-jail namely Muffadal Mauala Mansion (MMM) is coming up for sheep to live in .........

Tailpiece: You get to wear a braclet noting 'You are in abde in this life and life hereafter' ......

[Free_Spirit]

lol

[Akhtiar Wahid]

Ya allah ab kuch toh intezaam kar
In Dawedaro ke liyo koi nizam kar
ab karde hamein azad is kufr se
Imam ka Zuhoor sare aam kar
Ab nahee dekhi jaati yeh zilat bhari zindagi
joh haq hain tera ya allah sajde ka uska paigam kar

[Free_Spirit]

Daawat ke adawaat…..

[Mazakyo]

Daawat ke adawaat…..

Shandar Numaish jari hai. Apni kareebe masjid ya markaz mein dekhye !!!

[Al Zulfiqar]

I'm not sure about Dai's myself - but taking your argument back to the beginning... Do you think RasulAllah made a serious blunder with his succession as well? Do you think that His infallibility is nonsense too?

QL. you should have stuck to the issue of infallibility of dai's, about whom you are not sure anyways. the dai bears no comparison to the prophet or ali. that is a puerile attempt to divert and obfuscate the topic.

Yes, I'm sure if the Imam exists and does reveal himself today... he would be assigned 24-hour guard by the FBI, KGB, MI6 etc - indeed James Bond himself would protect him, right?

and what is your sarcasm supposed to prove, except get a few limp laughs?

If anything dude, the Imam would be in greater danger now than ever - Global Islamophobia, Western Imperialism, Sunni Fanaticism etc... and lets not forget that our very own Kothar (his supposed allies/disciples) would be his biggest enemy!

you are welcome to your opinions about the dangers to the revealment of the imam. on the last point, however everyone agrees that the spiritual validation of the imam's authority will have to come from a fallible dai, which is well-nigh impossible, considering that the last 2-3 dai's have usurped powers far greater than the imam and are sitting pretty on an empire with assets worth billions of dollars.

I've always suspected this... Is there a transcript of his testimony anywhere? At the same time, I suppose he could have been using good old Taqiyya lol.

please access the archives on this forum and reference the chandabhai galla case to find the transcripts of the celebrated court case which sts lost miserably. as for 'taqiyya', we all know about sts' clandestine and illicit affairs and which women he made his 'taqiya' (pillow). find out about the mother of the 52nd, why no reference is ever made to her, how she died, the treatment of her father, the mamaji of 52nd. also do some research on the mother of KQ, who she was before sts married her, the events which transpired around her life and why sts promised her that her offspring KQ would inherit the daiship after death of 52nd.

The central plank of Bohra belief, indeed all Muslim belief... is that a lowly Arab was visited by an invisible Angel sent by an invisible God, to dictate to him a miraculous book, which is eternally protected and perfect in every way...

once again a totally superflous attempt to link imam's revelation, which has been oft repeated by the last 2 dai's who declared very confidently that the zuhoor of the imam was nigh, that they pray fervently day and night and would be honoured if it was during their tenure. neither the prophet or ali, nor any sahabas have ever made such a fraudulent claim that allah will physically manifest himself.

Millions upon millions of Atheists refute this widely held belief, and downgrade it to being merely a "fairy-tale"... does this mean Islam should cease to exist?

whether any tom, dick or harry believes in the divine revelations or prophethood of mohammed does not affect islam/muslims one iota, (witness the explosive growth of islam in the last few decades and esp after 9/11) but disproving the existence of a physical imam on this earth certainly negates the very concept of religion for a bohra.

Should Islam be "proved" by Lawyers in a Supreme Court... or perhaps by Academics in a "Scientific Court"... before people are allowed to have faith in it?

that is again your own inference. no one has demanded such a thing. but if the dai collects crores in the name of a fictitious imamuzzaman, talks about him coming out of hiding soon and then also goes on official record to claim that imam is but merely an article of faith, then would you still remain as complacent?

If he does exist... do you honestly think he'd be on this forum?

the imam, as per bohra doctrine is supposed to be all-knowing, omnipresent and omnipotent, upto date with the modern world and all its technology. do you honestly think he would be an illiterate fool and an ignoramus that he would not know how to access this forum?

Are you going to challenge God himself in the same way? .. why doesn't Allah reveal himself to bring an end to all the conflict and chaos?

is it anywhere written in the quran or explicitly mentioned in any hadees that allah has promised to reveal himself, physically? allah is an abstract entity/being, while according to bohra ideology the imam is a flesh and blood human being, physically in existence and communicating with his naib, the dai. only he has chosen not to reveal himself as yet and remain concealed.

6. As point 5 above, I suppose you could just as easily say :-
as Almighty God, of course your intuitions must be legendary and so must be your intelligence and ghaib nu ilm. it must be therefore abundanty clear to you, o Allah, that the future of bohras under muffy is extremely bleak. the community as a whole is being driven to kufr, but the bohra women are being driven into the pre-islamic age of jahiliyya. is this something that you, o Allah, would allow and tolerate, letting pirates and ruthless opportunists sully your name?

already questioned and answered.

True, yet here you are... full of more angst and frustration then even a full member of the Bohra Jammat!

thats your faulty interpretation, what angst and frustration are you referring to? it seems that that your dearly held beliefs of a hidden imam have taken a solid beating and its your frustrations and angst which drive you to refute my logic. if i dont believe in a fictitious imam and the skullduggery being conducted in his name, then how am i a bohra?

I guess you're not really "free as a bird" after all AZ... still good to have you back, although it's a shame that you couldn't completely let go and move on with your life in "supreme bliss"...

your assumptions about others are all based on your faulty logic. as you pour scorn, contempt and ridicule on the reformists as being retards, morons and lazy good-for-nothings, then why do you keeping coming back to this PDB sponsored site, what does that say about you? why dont you move on and leave the stupid reformists alone and live your life in 'supreme bliss' too?

PS: It's a strange thing being a Bohra isn't it - no matter how hard people try to leave physically... they always come back in the end mentally... simply forgetting about us seems next to impossible for most...

is that something that bothers you? i may have left the oppressive bohra jamaat as a non-fee paying member, but that doesnt mean i have to give up on or abandon my bohra friends or family. i have emphasised clearly earlier that i cannot deny my roots. its like you staying in the uk and taking up its citizenship, would you abandon your family and friends back home or disown the country of your origin and spit on it?

[like_minded]

Next we will have to file returns and show our income and pay religious taxes accordingly……we already have PAN cards

Sorry Free Spirit ......... we will NOT have to file 'returns' and SHOW 'income' ....... and PAY religious taxes accordingly, NOT going to happen ............... what is going to happen is SIMPLE, give Dawat-e-Hadiyah' account details to your employer ........ your salary will be directly deposited to Dawat account AND you will stand in queue every month to get your Dabba from FMB ........... and stipend to buy clothes ......... soon a sub-jail namely Muffadal Mauala Mansion (MMM) is coming up for sheep to live in .........

Tailpiece: You get to wear a braclet noting 'You are in abde in this life and life hereafter' ......

Very hilarious!!!

I am sure in the coming days… they will have a representative (daras graduate) stationed at each and every bohra shop, The job of this bright boy will be to monitor the amount of business a bohra does (with bill and without bill) check his purchases and sales, his complete accounts to derive at the profit a bohra makes in a single day, based on that every bohra will be liable to pay a certain percentage of his profit (may be 50% or more) on daily basis as najwa-tus-shukr to syedna mufaddal saifuddin, who will then bless this bohra and shower more barakats on him on daily basis.

[Free_Spirit]

yes and we will eventually have barakaat in the thalis….who needs food!!

[like_minded]

That'll be named "Noorani Barakati Thaali Mubarak" Just a look at it is enough to fill our stomachs..

[JC]

Yes, that idea was for salaried abdes ......... for businessabdes they will have a have an AMIL (may be a jamae grad kid) who will have to 'employed' at hefty salary .......... he will work as Maulai Auditor ...... kind of Muffadali watchdog (I wanted to write bloodhound..!!) who will ensure most of the profits go to Dawat-e-Hadiya account. And mind you this profit will disallow hefty salary to Mauali Auditor ...... so businessabde pays for that too!!

All the businesses would have to have Burhani or Muffadali words in its legal name.

Every employee will have to sing Wazaefuna at the end of the work day (forget national anthem of country).

Every male employee will at least have to wear Topi ........ there will be NO women employees allowed (Exception: Air hostesses are allowed, as due to them Maula Na Dil Nay Ghanee Khushi Chay ..!!)

More to follow .........

[JC]

On lines to FMB ........... one more is coming ...........

FMM ............. Faiz e Malabis e Muffadalia .................