SMB declared God and his turbaat Kaaba (Naudobillah)

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Hussain_KSA
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SMB declared God and his turbaat Kaaba (Naudobillah)

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Unread post by Hussain_KSA » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:59 am

In the daily Majalis, one of the zadas, in his usual lecture eulogizing SMB and SMS was asking Muffy to do shafaa't on behalf of abdes and amtes to SMS so that they get salvation. Earlier the request was for the Dai to do shafaat to Allah Subhanahu and now shafaat to Allah is no more required as SMS is enough to allocate to them the place in their makaanay qadeem.

The favored abdes and amtes including the Hussain Bhai of Nairobi who did laanat session on QK were awarded with ghilaafs taken out from the turbaat of SMS with instructions to put them on the graves of their deceased relative for sometime as that will ensure their salvation. Again the abdes were doing sajdaa after accepting the treasure and must be boasting to have received it from the hands of their moulaa.

As expected, the name of Allah Subahanahu is getting eclipsed by bohris and their focal point is now SMS (Hai Al Muqqadas) and SMS.

The abdes and amtes were like scrambling to just kiss the grave of both dai's overloaded with thousands of ghilaafs and were being pushed away by the volunteers and especially the lady volunteers were more aggressive in pushing them out.

Bohra spring
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Re: SMB declared God and his turbaat Kaaba (Naudobillah)

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:18 am

Such extreme forms of kufr is bound to collapse. We may think it will never happen or it is taking forever because we are living it. History is full of graveyards of empires. This Dawoodi Empire is destined for doom , may be not this year or next but more likely in the next 10 or 20 years when the 53rd passes away .

If we are upto our eyeballs with the 52 to 53 transition can you imagine the chaos when the 54 th claims being the rightful Diai and in those days the Kasre Ali will be in thousands ..the zadas will be in their dozens.

Allah knows best how to take care of its cancerous sects !

asad
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Re: SMB declared God and his turbaat Kaaba (Naudobillah)

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Unread post by asad » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:04 am

Husain Bhai this is nothing new. Bohras have been known to indulge in highest form of shirk, this is just doing what they know best to do, SHIRK.

M Taha
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Re: SMB declared God and his turbaat Kaaba (Naudobillah)

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Unread post by M Taha » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:49 am

if we look at action of muffy offcourse they are full of shirk and bidats, but core fundamentals of BOHRAS are far better then any other Islamic sect.

Ignore muffy action and every thing is good within BOHRA fold.

badrijanab
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Re: SMB declared God and his turbaat Kaaba (Naudobillah)

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Unread post by badrijanab » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:49 am

To: Admin

Shahzada or Bhaisahab are not equal to school of Fatimi Dawat. Hence their misguided preaching cannot be classified as teaching of Bohra maslaq. So call those fitnati Kothari's as mushriq and not to the Bohra maslaq.

But Asad is categorising Bohras as "Mushrik" and when I replied him in his own currency you deleted my post and acknowledged the post of Asad by keeping it untouched!!!

Why this discrimination? Does your action speak you are not loyal to Bohras but to enemies of Bohras?

Akhtiar Wahid
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Re: SMB declared God and his turbaat Kaaba (Naudobillah)

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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:12 am

I wish one of the groups from 103 groups during the Muroor should have had come up with this Slogan.

"Moula tamney aa Muffy Belt bandiney nasaas tabhiyat and zaefi ni alam ma itni behurmati thi yaha waha sagli baju ramp par deedar na dhong ma ghumavto hato, SYEDNA MOHAMMED BURHANUDDIN MOULA MANEY YAAD AWEY CHE". "Ya allah apsi aaj dua che ke apna Haq na Dai no rutbo Mojiza si Haq par Kaim karo, anney aa mushrekin zalemin ne Fanaa karo".

Syedna Khozema Qutbuddin Aka Zindabad

Bohra spring
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Re: SMB declared God and his turbaat Kaaba (Naudobillah)

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:12 pm

badrijanab wrote:To: Admin

Shahzada or Bhaisahab are not equal to school of Fatimi Dawat. Hence their misguided preaching cannot be classified as teaching of Bohra maslaq. So call those fitnati Kothari's as mushriq and not to the Bohra maslaq.

But Asad is categorising Bohras as "Mushrik" and when I replied him in his own currency you deleted my post and acknowledged the post of Asad by keeping it untouched!!!

Why this discrimination? Does your action speak you are not loyal to Bohras but to enemies of Bohras?
BJ again self criticizing and self correction does not mean we are enemies..can Bohras stop over reacting to any form of criticism .

ghulam muhammed
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Re: SMB declared God and his turbaat Kaaba (Naudobillah)

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:10 pm

Dahod's Muslims compel the Bohra Owners of a Company for tendering a Public Apology for projecting Dai Burhanuddin's beauty superior to that of Prophet Yusuf (pbuh)

Bohra Owners of a Company known as M/s Z.I. Constructions in Dahod, in its fanatic love for the present Bohra Dai, had given an advertisement in a Gujarat News paper on occasion of 99th birthday based on Hijri Calendar, praising Syedna.

They wrote Dai Burhanuddin's beauty was superior to Prophet (Nabi) Yusuf A. S. The Urdu words written in Gujarati script says "Hazrat Yusuf se bhi mera Maula Haseen hai".
This angered Muslims in many areas as they considered it as an insult to the Prophet Yusuf (pbuh).

The Sunni Shia Muslim leaders apprehended a volatile situation similar to one that had caused when the same Syedna Burhanuddin had openly cursed the first three caliphs of Islam in Bombay in August 1988. So to control the situation a delegation of prominent local Muslims was formed instantly.

The delegation marched to Z.I. Constructions and gave them a lesson or two in Islam and honour of the Prophets in Islam. They told them that an Imam, however great he may be but Imam can not be superior to a Prophet. Similarly however great a Dai may be but Dai can not be superior to an Imam. The Muslim delegation gave the Bohra owners an understanding of Islam which their Dai Syedna Burhanuddin could not impart them in last 99 years. Looking to the mood and earlier faith of their Dai that Dai himself had to give a written open apology, the Bohra owners of the company M/s Z.I. Constructions accepted their mistake and regretted comparing Syedna Burhanuddin to the Prophet Yusuf (pbuh).

The Bohra owners submitted an unconditional hand written Mafi-Nama (apology) to the Muslim delegation and also made it public by giving another advertisement in the same newspaper asking forgiveness from all Muslims for insulting Beauty of Prophet Yousuf (pbuh).

Read the advertisement and you would be surprised that the illiterate and ignorant Bohras owners even do not know the word "His Holiness" as they spell it as "Fill Holiness".

English Translation of the public Appology is as under:-
Public Apology
On the occasion of 99th birthday of Dr. Syedna Mohammad Burhanuddin Saheb (TUS) we gave an advertisment to wish him and wrote that "My Maula is superior to the prophet Yusuf in his beauty". This has hurt the religious feelings of entire Muslim community. We beg their sincere apology. We respect the Prophet Yusuf (pbuh) and according to Islamic faith the Prophet Yusuf is one of the most superior soul (then our Syedna). For above quoted writing we once again express our heartfelt regret.
Z.I. Construction,
Lucky Mension, Behind Husami Masjid,
Paiga, DAHOD.

http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtop ... f=1&t=5085

M Taha
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Re: SMB declared God and his turbaat Kaaba (Naudobillah)

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Unread post by M Taha » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:25 pm

^ I hope they will remember these lessons for years to come.

Being_Bohra
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Re: SMB declared God and his turbaat Kaaba (Naudobillah)

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Unread post by Being_Bohra » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:40 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:Dahod's Muslims compel the Bohra Owners of a Company for tendering a Public Apology for projecting Dai Burhanuddin's beauty superior to that of Prophet Yusuf (pbuh)

Bohra Owners of a Company known as M/s Z.I. Constructions in Dahod, in its fanatic love for the present Bohra Dai, had given an advertisement in a Gujarat News paper on occasion of 99th birthday based on Hijri Calendar, praising Syedna.

They wrote Dai Burhanuddin's beauty was superior to Prophet (Nabi) Yusuf A. S. The Urdu words written in Gujarati script says "Hazrat Yusuf se bhi mera Maula Haseen hai".
This angered Muslims in many areas as they considered it as an insult to the Prophet Yusuf (pbuh).

The Sunni Shia Muslim leaders apprehended a volatile situation similar to one that had caused when the same Syedna Burhanuddin had openly cursed the first three caliphs of Islam in Bombay in August 1988. So to control the situation a delegation of prominent local Muslims was formed instantly.

The delegation marched to Z.I. Constructions and gave them a lesson or two in Islam and honour of the Prophets in Islam. They told them that an Imam, however great he may be but Imam can not be superior to a Prophet. Similarly however great a Dai may be but Dai can not be superior to an Imam. The Muslim delegation gave the Bohra owners an understanding of Islam which their Dai Syedna Burhanuddin could not impart them in last 99 years. Looking to the mood and earlier faith of their Dai that Dai himself had to give a written open apology, the Bohra owners of the company M/s Z.I. Constructions accepted their mistake and regretted comparing Syedna Burhanuddin to the Prophet Yusuf (pbuh).

The Bohra owners submitted an unconditional hand written Mafi-Nama (apology) to the Muslim delegation and also made it public by giving another advertisement in the same newspaper asking forgiveness from all Muslims for insulting Beauty of Prophet Yousuf (pbuh).

Read the advertisement and you would be surprised that the illiterate and ignorant Bohras owners even do not know the word "His Holiness" as they spell it as "Fill Holiness".

English Translation of the public Appology is as under:-
Public Apology
On the occasion of 99th birthday of Dr. Syedna Mohammad Burhanuddin Saheb (TUS) we gave an advertisment to wish him and wrote that "My Maula is superior to the prophet Yusuf in his beauty". This has hurt the religious feelings of entire Muslim community. We beg their sincere apology. We respect the Prophet Yusuf (pbuh) and according to Islamic faith the Prophet Yusuf is one of the most superior soul (then our Syedna). For above quoted writing we once again express our heartfelt regret.
Z.I. Construction,
Lucky Mension, Behind Husami Masjid,
Paiga, DAHOD.

http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtop ... f=1&t=5085
What about the title "Bolta Quran"?

ghulam muhammed
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Re: SMB declared God and his turbaat Kaaba (Naudobillah)

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:36 pm

The Dai is slowly being elevated to positions which were once the sole prerogative of Prophet (s.a.w.). Not only are fancy titles being given to him but in very recent times even his birthdays which were ALWAYS addressed as "Salgirah" are now being called "Milads" so as to look like "Milad un Nabawi". It wont be surprising if in future bohras may have to add one more Eid which could be "Eid e Milad un Dai". We are already seeing grand pomp and extravaganza during the Urus and birthdays of Dai as compared to the Urus and birthdays of Prophet (s.a.w.) and Panjatan Pak (a.s.). Bohraism is moving further and further away from a religion to a CULT wherein the sole focus will ONLY be the Dai and the memories of Panjatan Pak (a.s) will slowly be erased from their memories. The process has already begun a long time ago, starting with Mohurrum vayez which are more about the glorification of the Dai and less about the Shohadas of Karbala.

It wont be surprising if the abdes on this forum come out in defence of these acts although it belittles the great status of Panjatan Pak (a.s.), their stereo typed defence will be Prophet (s.a.w.) = Mola Ali (a.s.) = Imams = Dai, hence according to them Dai should be no less as compared to these great souls , no matter how ridiculous their logic maybe !!