my predictions

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M Taha
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my predictions

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Unread post by M Taha » Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:29 pm

looking at situation, I can safely forecast comming action cycle in bohra community.

1)muffy will keep squeezing money out of his supporters, unless most will give up and start thinking.

2) most educated people will join syedna khozeima

3)law will intervene and both parties will get access to all bohra properties.

4)most middle class bohras in India africa and pakistan will remain with muffy, due to their jhalat and lack of knowledge.

5)most western world will adopt SKQ ideology and him as dai.

M Taha
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Re: my predictions

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Unread post by M Taha » Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:53 pm

time period expected is 3 years from now.

ghulam muhammed
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Re: my predictions

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:58 pm

M Taha wrote:time period aspected is 3 years from now.
It took no time for Allah (swt) to drown the entire army of Firaun.

M Taha
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Re: my predictions

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Unread post by M Taha » Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:01 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:
M Taha wrote:time period aspected is 3 years from now.
It took no time for Allah (swt) to drown the entire army of Firaun.
Firon was kafir, while muffy is mushriq, so there is fundamental difference between these two.

his greed will kill him slowly.

once incoming of money starts decreasing, he and his alikes will start choking.

biggest source of income for them are western world and gulf region, once they start thinking, time span of muffy destruction will start ticking.

Fateh
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Re: my predictions

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Unread post by Fateh » Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:01 am

M Taha wrote:
ghulam muhammed wrote: It took no time for Allah (swt) to drown the entire army of Firaun.
Firon was kafir, while muffy is mushriq, so there is fundamental difference between these two.

his greed will kill him slowly.

once incoming of money starts decreasing, he and his alikes will start choking.

biggest source of income for them are western world and gulf region, once they start thinking, time span of muffy destruction will start ticking.
AMEEN

Sceptical
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Re: my predictions

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Unread post by Sceptical » Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:56 am

M Taha wrote:looking at situation, I can safely forecast comming action cycle in bohra community.
1)muffy will keep squeezing money out of his supporters, unless most will give up and start thinking.
2) most educated people will join syedna khozeima
3)law will intervene and both parties will get access to all bohra properties.
4)most middle class bohras in India africa and pakistan will remain with muffy, due to their jhalat and lack of knowledge.
5)most western world will adopt SKQ ideology and him as dai.
I'm not as optimistic as you. I think SKQ, even he is better leader than SMS in all points, even he is on Haqq, will never achieve to convince the majority of Bohras. Not because they are blind or not educated, but because of the sidelining of Mazoon since 30 years.

Most of bohras did even not know who he is. During past missaq, his name was just said by formality and low voice, whereas Mukasir's name and title was said loudly.

My family members and most of my freinds who have the same age as mine (about 30-40 years) do not know who Khuzaima Qutbuddin is.

Even when people believe SKQ is on Haqq, they are too afraid by excommunication.

I think the split will be about 10% - 90% at final. And SKQ has to react rapidly and spectacularly in less than 1 year if he want to convince, if not, it will be even less than 10%. and his name and his sect will be send to oblivion.

Conscíous
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Unread post by Conscíous » Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:09 am

3)law will intervene and both parties will get access to all bohra properties
This could be a door opener to many fronts and maybe the best thing that comes out, from this entire mess..

Smart
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Re: my predictions

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Unread post by Smart » Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:55 pm

I think the division will not be in two parts but three. The average and below average Bohras and those lacking guts will stay with Muffi. The above average Bohras and with a bit of guts will move over to Khuzaima. The smartest ones and those having guts and standing in the society at large, especially the younger generation will leave and go.

Applying Pareto's Law twice 20% will leave and go. Then of the remaining ones, 80% will remain with SMS, I.e. 64% of the original numbers. The remaining 16% of the original numbers will go with SKQ.

Thus of the 600,000 card holding bohras, with SMB, about 120,000 will leave and go. I know such Bohras by the dozens. This nass drama and the questions it has raised, has opened the eyes of the smartest lot and convinced them that this cult has nothing to do with religion. It is just a smokescreen for the mafia to exploit the community and make money.

As mentioned elsewhere, the half life of the community was 25 years, however, with the recent incidents the attrition rate has accelerated. This fast rate will remain, especially because of disruptive technologies like the internet and social media.

There are 52 cards in a deck, add the two jokers, I doubt if we will even have the 54th incumbent.

shapur
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Re: my predictions

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Unread post by shapur » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:52 pm

Smartly written, Smart. That pretty much looks to be the shape of things to come. Coupled with that is the dwindling growth ratio. My dad had 12 siblings, I have 5 and my son has none. And that being the state of the growth in general, one can imagine what numbers the following will be reduced to 50 years from now. Coupled with that is our policy of zero expansion. Nil propagation and nil new admissions from other streams unlike all the other communities who keep vying for "dawah". So i guess it makes sense to share smart's apprehension of the future.

Bohra spring
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Re: my predictions

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:17 pm

Sharpur what a hilarious idea...expansion by Dawah ...

Just imagine this ...in a busy market place a Bohri stand with sign ...welcome register today to join the only sect that guarantees heaven , 50% off for today only.

What will you write in the brochure after the first page..I mean the first page which may have the positives will be

Regular free food, tiffin, niyaz
Single dress code, non fashion changing so no need to replace unless worn out
Pilgrimage and travel services, gets better if you want village travels in Gujarat
Circumcised girls to marry to stay loyal for life , in most cases mostly loyal and mostly fgmed
Men who are so subservient to their Amil, no time to play in bed but don't suspect they have time they are always in khidmat or no money left in the pocket to cheat
Its your data for complete CRM capabilities, Jamaat knows more than you can remember about yourself
Everyone will socialise and gossip no fear of major upheavals , endorsed by PM Modi
Not aligned to any Muslim ideals so safe never to be on terrorist wanted least, excluding human rights, tax evasion or child abuse lists

.........
Page 2 to terms and conditions....
Fees schedules page 21
Things not to do
This goes on to page 53

....
Now guess it is noon so how many brochures have been taken and how long the new members list would be