Dawoodi Bohras in the media

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:35 pm

muffadal saifuddin on woman


Mufaddal Saifuddin says if no hijab throw ladies out of house
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh-Z2nT2xNk


Mufaddal Saifuddin says women should stay at home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlj55Wg02RM

Mufaddal Saifuddin says women should not be educated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6r1qUHg8-Q


Mufaddal Saifuddin says if you don't make roti, you won't get shafa'at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjPZ30d2Mak

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Unread post by simple » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:06 am

i found pune mirror article reactions, bohra should listen what muffadal saifudin had said in bayan regarding woman


http://www.punemirror.in/article/2/2014 ... n-24-.html


►►► Your coverage about the split in the Dawoodi Bohra community, ‘tells only one side of the story. The portrayal of Mufaddal Saifuddin required plenty more research, analysis, and perusal of his speeches, especially regarding claims of his alleged gender inequality. As far as Khuzaima Qutbuddin is concerned, his apparent honesty also requires investigation. There were three witnesses when Syedna Mohammad Burhanuddin named Mufaddal Saifuddin as his successor.
An article such as this should have views from both sides, and leave it to the reader to decide between right and wrong.

- Husain Adenwala

►►► What is the proof that Khuzaima Qutbuddin is a leader? Does he have any leadership qualities? Have you heard him addressing crowd? How will he lead our community? Also, the allegation that Mufaddal Saifuddin is against women’s education is false. He started a community tiffin service, so that women did not spend all our time in the kitchen. I myself am an engineer and I take care of my home as well as my work.

- Tasnim Kayamkhani

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:47 am

baba ramdev meets muffadal saifuddin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOnpY6WLH1k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sMga6O9yGs

Yesterday baba ramdev meet to mufaddal mola : ramdev say: Mufaddal mola ap cho to duniya ma ROSHNI 6, Mufaddal mola says: Na me nai aa mara Burhanuddin mola 6, baba ramdev says:ha mola e mola to 6j pan atyare to tame cho,aa sambhli ne mufaddal mola ghana ane ghana khus thay, te bad mufaddal mola ye baba ramdev ne puchu k tame kasrat kevi rite karo cho to baba ramdev ye kidu k ye sab kasart to kuch nai ye mola apki namaz hi kasart 6,

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Unread post by M Taha » Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:22 am

if swamaji is so much impressed with Mufaddal bhai sahab, MS should do dawah and convert babaji to ISLAM?

truth is babaji dont even know name of Mufaddal bhai sahab, he tweeted "I met muzzaffar bhai sahab", and he also says there are crores of people around the world followind syedna sahab, while truth is their are only 12 lacs bohra in whole world.he was just there to beg few more votes for BJP which he is endorsing these days.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:38 pm

bohrabhai wrote:baba ramdev meets muffadal saifuddin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOnpY6W ... sYesterday baba ramdev meet to mufaddal mola : ramdev say: Mufaddal mola ap cho to duniya ma ROSHNI 6, Mufaddal mola says: Na me nai aa mara Burhanuddin mola 6, baba ramdev says:ha mola e mola to 6j pan atyare to tame cho,aa sambhli ne mufaddal mola ghana ane ghana khus thay, te bad mufaddal mola ye baba ramdev ne puchu k tame kasrat kevi rite karo cho to baba ramdev ye kidu k ye sab kasart to kuch nai ye mola apki namaz hi kasart 6,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxOt-bYm1-c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6VZmsFVeKY

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Unread post by M Taha » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:40 pm

it is a sad situation for dawat that only compliment we are getting is from babajis, who are thela chaap and they have came from no where.

no intellectual people visit neither they give any compliment any more.

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Unread post by tasneempati » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:11 am

Tasnim Kayamkhani : By eating tiffin (Thali) food my Tasneem has become very lazy & my family is forgetting taste of home made food.

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Unread post by zinger » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:48 am

M Taha wrote:it is a sad situation for dawat that only compliment we are getting is from babajis, who are thela chaap and they have came from no where.

no intellectual people visit neither they give any compliment any more.
Ya man, its so sad na...

Condolences and compliments on the work done by Bawa Saab came from thela chaaps like:

1. Union Home minister Sushilkumar Shinde
2. President of the United Arab Emirates (UAE) Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan
3. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh

(http://zeenews.india.com/tags/Syedna-Mo ... uddin.html)

4. Vice President Hamid Ansari
(http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-ha ... in-1953254)

5. President Pranab Mukherjee
6. Congress Vice President Rahul Gandhi
7. Maharashtra Chief Minister Prithviraj Chavan
(http://eprahaar.in/dignitaries-condole- ... ns-demise/)

8. Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif
9. Pakistan President Mamnoon Hussain
10. Sindh Governor Dr Ishratul Ebad Khan
11. Sindh Chief Minister Qaim Ali Shah
(http://tribune.com.pk/story/660017/lead ... ad-at-102/)

12. President Sheikh Khalifa Al-Nahyan, UAE
13. Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed Al-Maktoum, UAE
(http://www.indianmuslimobserver.com/201 ... uddin-tus/)


how sad... completely agree with you. Even an Islamic country like Pakistan had its flag at half-mast...

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:24 am

Zinger seriously did these guys come to give condolences on the death of 52 ? Yes

Would condolences be given to a step brother living in Thane miles away or at the palace where SMB lived . Don't think so.

Would a reasonable unbiased person give condolences to his next of kin , yes that is coupled common courtesy .

If Mickey Mouse was in the palace they would have still come over for political reasons

Did they come to judge whether SMS is rightful and not SKQ....? Come one I thought your were more rationale than what you have implied, many of our folks may be gullible but not seasoned politicians.

Do they care what will be the outcome in the future or how we will use it for propaganda ...not the heck.

If you remember even Sadam Husain or Qadafi, or ahemdinijad however tyrant they were or hated they he were given ceremonious respect

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Unread post by zinger » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:50 am

Bohra spring wrote:Zinger seriously did these guys come to give condolences on the death of 52 ? Yes

Would condolences be given to a step brother living in Thane miles away or at the palace where SMB lived . Don't think so.i dont think so either. remember, Mufaddal Maula has been the heir apparent, openly, for the last 2 years. Mazun Maula has come on to the scene only now. as far as a non-Bohra goes, he is an unknown entity

Would a reasonable unbiased person give condolences to his next of kin , yes that is coupled common courtesy .

If Mickey Mouse was in the palace they would have still come over for political reasons Damn, i gotta get myself a castle :D

Did they come to judge whether SMS is rightful and not SKQ....? Come one I thought your were more rationale than what you have implied, many of our folks may be gullible but not seasoned politicians. sorry, but whatever gave you the impression that i am saying that they are arriving at that conclusion Mufaddal Maula is right and Mazun Maula is wrong??? I dont think i said it anywhere. I was only referring to what our chameleon friend (the one with many ids) said, that all thela chaap (in Indian slang, it means losers) came to give their condolences and no one from the Islamic world did

Do they care what will be the outcome in the future or how we will use it for propaganda ...not the heck. I think its pretty obvious that they dont actuallly give 2 hoots, they were there only because it was the right thing to do

If you remember even Sadam Husain or Qadafi, or ahemdinijad however tyrant they were or hated they he were given ceremonious respect sorry, but i do believe they died a most undignified death

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:51 pm

bayan of muffadal saifuuddin with subtitles ..

Mufaddal Moula TUS Farman: Je roti na banawe ehna saathe dosti karwu munasib natthi
http://youtu.be/p9NOmSf7wQM

Mufaddal Moula TUS Farman: Apna dikriwo ne universities ma na parhawo
http://youtu.be/6wzQn49XwRc

Mufaddal Moula TUS Farman: Apna dikriwo ne Home Science sikhawo, yej behtar chhe
http://youtu.be/9jzM8g2bFOY

Mufaddal Moula TUS Farman: Je roti na banawe ehna saathe dosti karwu munasib natthi
http://youtu.be/yH3DcDijSsg

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:12 pm

i am in shock to see this video . where is ghum of late sydena . i can see only mass hysteria like heil hitler . On top of this one man is like The principal conductor of an orchestra,


Mufaddal Maula TUS we love you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwdZ3lMj ... ture=share

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Unread post by M Taha » Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:19 pm

this is so stupid, I know most of this guys in interview they are kotharis and hold postions in different offices, I can say they are lying and morever if SKQ was against SMB then why he was not kicked out of mazoon postion? they shoudl be shame to talk like to for rutba na saheb who was mazoon for 50 years.

it shows this is one more attack of SMS to defame SKQ....

this all crap makes me think SKQ is on right side of arguement.

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Unread post by M Taha » Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:24 pm

where are all pro kotharis? how come all these amils are showering lanat on SKQ while SMS was claiming no lanat came from his side?

heights of hypocrisy is in play.....

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Unread post by M Taha » Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:28 pm

these videos are really disturbing, and it shows how much hate they were holding against mazoon sahab for all these years.

this is just like how Abu bakar usman and umar were good to ALI till Muhammed was Alive, once Muhammed(s) died, all these guys shown their true colors.

now I think SKQ claims are on HAQ.

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Unread post by M Taha » Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:32 pm

they are from surat and in different khidmats of jamea and other offices, and I can say these guys are really corrupt and 1 numberi chor, none of their testification holds any water.

the more they will try to defend undefendable more they will get naked.

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Unread post by Mamluk-E-Syedna » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:45 pm

Dear Bohrabhai.
Please note that this video is from Imam Hasan (AS) shahaadat day vaez in Udaipur on 28 Safar -- 18 days before Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb (RA) passed away. Please know your facts prior to "shooting your mouth off" in Hasad and Adaavat. Parvardigaar tamne nek taufiq aapey.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:14 pm

Bro zinger,

The list of people you gave are all political leaders whose main concern is the "vote bank" and the constant flow of money that Kothar provides them. Do you think that they came because of grief ? They came just like how they go for condolences to every religious sect be it Jains, Swami Narayan, Christians etc. when their leader dies. Now how many good Islamic leaders or spiritual leaders from other religions came ? Where was Dalai Lama, where was Pope ?? Even when the butcher of Muslims, Narendra Modi dies you will see a stream of leaders visiting his house for condolences and probably Muffy will be the first one to go !!

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Unread post by Sceptical » Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:16 pm

bohrabhai wrote:Mufaddal Maula TUS we love you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwdZ3lMj ... ture=share
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
God... save us.

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Unread post by zinger » Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:58 pm

bohrabhai wrote:now watch these confessions
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... vzkEgJnbLn

This was actually quite funny i must say.

the fact that they are all speaking in Lissan ud Daawat is a dead give-away that they are not regular Dawoodi Bohra joes but the shaikh/mulla/kothar kind

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Unread post by zinger » Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:59 pm

Mamluk-E-Syedna wrote:Dear Bohrabhai.
Please note that this video is from Imam Hasan (AS) shahaadat day vaez in Udaipur on 28 Safar -- 18 days before Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb (RA) passed away. Please know your facts prior to "shooting your mouth off" in Hasad and Adaavat. Parvardigaar tamne nek taufiq aapey.

Good one Mamluk bhai

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Unread post by zinger » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:23 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:Bro zinger,

The list of people you gave are all political leaders whose main concern is the "vote bank" and the constant flow of money that Kothar provides them. Do you think that they came because of grief ? They came just like how they go for condolences to every religious sect be it Jains, Swami Narayan, Christians etc. when their leader dies. Now how many good Islamic leaders or spiritual leaders from other religions came ? Where was Dalai Lama, where was Pope ?? Even when the butcher of Muslims, Narendra Modi dies you will see a stream of leaders visiting his house for condolences and probably Muffy will be the first one to go !!

GM bhai,

you have missed the context of my reply to our "dashavtar/behrupiya" friend

His post was that only "thela-chaap" people came to pay their condolence. Being from Mumbai, you are doubtless aware of what "thela-chaap" means.

Now, given that his observation was that only those kind of people came, my reply to him was in the correct context of the actual dignitaries who came. Now, if by his twisted mindset the Prime Minister, the President etc are also "thela-chaap" then all i can say is that he has not been taking his medication, as i had once told him, to his avtaar as incredible

Coming to your point now, you claim they came for the vote bank. You really think that the PM or President of India or Pakistan is interested in our votes? Nope. I think you are just scrambling for answers now, trying to counter my point GM bhai.

Coming to your second point, ofcourse they did not come out of grief, they came out of respect for who Aqa Maula was. That's why he was given a state burial too. Remember!

Third point now. How many Islamic leaders came? I dont know who they were, but there is pic on this site, of some from Iran i think. there is another pic of Prince Aga Khan (but ofcourse, you dont consider them as Islamic leaders now do you :roll: in which case this reply to, would just be conveniently ignored by you)

Fourth point. Mufaddal Maula would probably go to Modis funeral, but whether he will be the first or not is debatable. There are a lot of Musalmans in Surat who will probably beat him to it, (Proof is in the pic below) but yes, he will go out of courtesy, given that Modi was here for condolences on Aqa Maula's death
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Unread post by bohrabhai » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:49 am

zinger wrote:
bohrabhai wrote: Dear bhai mamluk
i am taking back my word regarding ghum of sydena . but apart from that what is going on in that video ..

find similarity in this video
http://youtu.be/krxMnE_0O0Q

Dear bohra bhai, not only is this post of yours, but your analogy too, is in extremely poor taste.






Admin, i would request you to kindly delete this post. Comparing Mufaddal Maula to Hitler is extremely cheap and low a tactic to make a point.
Dear zinger bhai /bahen .
i dont want to compare hitler to muffadal saifuddin .and if u think like that i apologize to you.
forget hitler see that video what people are doing ??
what that man is doing ?

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Unread post by zinger » Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:55 am

Bohrabhai, Bhai is fine.

Thank you for clarifying, my apologies to you too in that case.

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:21 pm

bohrabhai wrote:muffadal saifuddin on woman


Mufaddal Saifuddin says if no hijab throw ladies out of house
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh-Z2nT2xNk


Mufaddal Saifuddin says women should stay at home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlj55Wg02RM

Mufaddal Saifuddin says women should not be educated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6r1qUHg8-Q


Mufaddal Saifuddin says if you don't make roti, you won't get shafa'at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjPZ30d2Mak

Mufaddal Saifuddin says ..." This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Mahad al-Zahra, Aljamea-tus-Saifiyah.

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Unread post by M Taha » Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:49 pm

yes they have already took it down...typical behaviour of losers.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:56 pm

bohrabhai wrote:Mufaddal Saifuddin says ..." This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Mahad al-Zahra, Aljamea-tus-Saifiyah.
The GUILT is very much visible for the ones who can see through it !!