Dawoodi Bohras in the media

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Re: dawoodi bohra in print media .

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:25 am

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In mahoo near indore ,MP people are fed up with dabba scheme hoob.

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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:31 am

this dabba scheme has to put to a halt, the meals are not only distasteful but disgraceful as well, i live in Dubai and according to what i pay per month i should be deserving atleast something delicious thrice or four times a week. It is a shame that these operators of dawat had fallen down to the lowest low.

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Re: dawoodi bohra in print media .

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:00 pm

Akhtiar Wahid wrote:this dabba scheme has to put to a halt, the meals are not only distasteful but disgraceful as well, i live in Dubai and according to what i pay per month i should be deserving atleast something delicious thrice or four times a week. It is a shame that these operators of dawat had fallen down to the lowest low.
AW Bhai who ever said the amount was for tasty meals.

You parted with money that is it...like tax the money goes in a pool ...literally a pool.

You were offered Barakat which is priceless if you are an abde ...on top of it you were lucky they threw in a bit of soup, daal and rice this more than a receipt you deserve.
It's people like a few reformists who missed the opportunity...money is still in my pocket, barakat is being priced...and have no receipt and my darling wife has to cook for me.

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Re: dawoodi bohra in print media .

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:10 pm

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/othe ... 092989.cms
Dawoodi Bohra succession battle takes legal turn
Mumbai Mirror | Apr 2, 2014, 02.20 AM IST
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Late Syedna's half brother Qutbuddin moves HC challenging his nephew Saifuddin's ascension as Bohra head.

The succession battle for the title of Dai-al-Mutlaq, or head of the Dawoodi Bohra community, took a legal turn with the late Syedna's half brother filing a declaratory suit in Bombay High Court on Saturday.

The prime contention of the 700-page petition is to have Khuzaima Qutbuddin, the half brother, legally declared as the 53rd Dai-al-Mutlaq of the 12-lakh strong Bohra community, and simultaneously to restrain his nephew, Mufaddal Saifuddin, from acting as the Dai.

The battle for succession had begun the night the Syedna expired in January this year, with his half brother and his son both claiming be the new community head.

Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin has filed a suit in High Court against Shehzada Mufaddal Saifuddin, seeking relief that he (Khuzaima) be declared Dai-al-Mutlaq, a press release said, adding that Mufaddal Saifuddin should be restrained from holding himself out as or performing any acts or deeds as the Dai al-Mutlaq.

The Dai of the Dawoodi Bohra community controls the Dawat-e-Hadiyah, one of the community's richest trusts worth thousands of crores.

Earlier, Khuzaima's supporters had written to the charity commissioners of Maharashtra and Gujarat, seeking that no transfers should be made as regard to the trust's assets. "We still have to follow up on the complaints made to the charity commissioners," Khuzaima's son, Aziz Qutbuddin, said.

Khuzaima had also uploaded on his website a video made in 2011, when Mufaddal Saifuddin was allegedly pronounced 53rd Dai by the late Syedna at Saifee Masjid in Bhendi Bazaar, to prove that no formal announcement to the effect had been made by the late Syedna.

Mufaddal's supporters, however, subsequently got the video removed.

"They claimed copyright to the video and asked Youtube to block it," Aziz Qutbuddin further said. "What do they have to fear? Why do they not want that video there?" he questioned.

The Mufaddal Qutbuddin faction remained unavailable for comment.

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Re: dawoodi bohra in print media .

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:12 pm

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 095107.cms

New Syedna’s uncle takes succession row to Bombay high court
Mohammed Wajihuddin,TNN | Apr 2, 2014, 04.22 AM IST
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MUMBAI: Nearly three months after the death of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin, the 52nd Dai al-Mutlaq or spiritual head of Dawoodi Bohra community, his half-brother Khuzaima Qutbuddin has moved the Bombay high court against the succession of his nephew Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin as the community's head.

In his 700-page petition, Qutbuddin, apart from calling Saifuddin's succession as "false", has also sought the court's intervention to restrain him from "holding himself out as or doing any acts, deeds or things as the Dai al-Mutlaq of the Dawoodi Bohra community". Dai al-Mutlaq, or simply Dai, is the spiritual and temporal head of the community and controls a vast network of trusts which manage charities, mosques, madrassas, mausoleums and community halls.

"We tried repeatedly to resolve the issue internally. We even invited him for a debate and establish the rightful claim of nass (succession). But all the attempts have been ignored and rebuffed by Shehzada Mufaddal Saifuddin," said Qutbuddin's son Abdeali Qutbuddin. He added that his father has submitted "credible" documents to the court to support his claim to the much-revered title of Dai.

A source close to the family of Syedna Saifuddin told TOI that "they will not comment on the latest development as they have not seen the petition filed by Khuzaima Qutbuddin".

The battle for succession began soon after Syedna Burhanuddin's death on January 17, when Qutbuddin claimed that the late Syedna had chosen him his Mazoon (deputy) and secretly appointed him as his successor 50 years ago. This claim was immediately rejected by Saifuddin's followers. A small group of Qutbuddin supporters even complained of threats and harassment.

Abdeali said his father only wanted to ensure that "the path shown by the previous Dais is followed, and the community is not torn asunder by false claimants". Abdeali also claimed that the "false claims" have ruptured the fabric of the Dawoodi Bohra community, with many wives leaving their husbands and children getting separated from their fathers.

Seeking judicial intervention, Qutbuddin has said that the claim of Syedna Burhanuddin pronouncing nass on Mufaddal Saifuddin in March 2011 in London was false as "Syedna Burhanuddin had suffered a debilitating stroke and was medically unfit to even speak". To create confusion in the community, added Abdeali, Syedna Burhanuddin was brought to Mumbai in a critical condition in an air ambulance. "A ceremony was staged (at Saifee Masjid) where thousands were present but Syedna (Burhanuddin) could not speak clearly due to effects of the stroke," said Khuzaima Qutbuddin's other son Aziz. He added that he would soon come out with more details on the merits in the claims being made by his father.
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Re: dawoodi bohra on you tube

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:24 pm

please see and save below mentioned video before jamea claim for copyright and block it .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIwntMVLSYk
Mufaddal bhaisab - Mamlook nu Paigaam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDclbxg ... e=youtu.be
Mufaddal bhaisab rubishes Doctors. But what did they say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddC4Sp-zZUY
Mufaddal Bhaisab forgets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phJ3WJXjgLE
Mufaddal bhaisab forgot the most important event in his life

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Re: Dawoodi Bohras on YouTube

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:51 am

Dawoodi bohra Women speak out on female genital mutilation in Australia

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2012/s3621229.htm

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Re: Dawoodi Bohras on YouTube

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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:34 pm

Now they will curse this poor lady for speaking out! against circumcision!
people will go khuda ni laanat and stuff!

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Re: dawoodi bohra in print media .

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:50 am

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bombay samachar article

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Unread post by y-kuc » Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:14 am

What does it say ?
To whoever replies.. transliteration will be better please.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: dawoodi bohra in print media .

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:29 am

Lies from the London Nass episode coming out? Are the Shehzada's going to be exposed and embarrassed?
http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/othe ... 144765.cms

Times of India
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 463462.cms

DNA
http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report-b ... 29-1976397

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Re: dawoodi bohra in print media .

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:05 am

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/o ... epage=true


The succession battle between the brother and the second son of the 52nd Syedna of the Dawoodi Bohra community, Mohammed Burhanuddin, continues with the uncle accusing the nephew of cruelty to the spiritual leader, who died in 2011, and preaching against his teachings.

In a suit filed before the Bombay High Court in March, Khuzema Qutbuddin accused Mufaddal Saifuddin of using false information to become the head of the community.

Mr. Qutbuddin pleaded that the court uphold him as Burhanuddin’s successor, as his brother had declared him so in 1965, which their family and community were aware of. He accused Mr. Saifuddin of enforcing retrograde decisions in the community such as keeping women and girls out of formal education.

The court gave time to Mr. Saifuddin to respond to the suit. “Unfortunately, with the desire to grab the position, for some years the defendant [Mr. Saifuddin] and his coterie tried to assert themselves, as Syedna Burhanuddin Saheb RA became older. On June 4, 2011, a few members of the family claimed that the Syedna had pronounced nass [transfer of authority] on the defendant in London. This was impossible as is evident from the medical records of Bupa Cromwell Hospital, London, where the Syedna was admitted on June 1, 2011, and suffered a severe stroke… ” the suit said. Mr. Qutbuddin attached the opinion of three doctors from the U.S. to claim that the Syedna was unable to speak on the date claimed by Mr. Saifuddin.

Keywords: Dawoodi Bohra community, Mohammed Burhanuddin, Khuzema Qutbuddin, Mufaddal Saifuddin



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Unread post by HMALAK » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:27 am

I have never seen such Hypocrisy in people. When there was something good to hear for them (The "Recusal" taken as Refusal) This people would send WhatsApp messages like Fateh Mubin and all. And Now when their Leader is Prohibited from Accessing and taking any decision refarding the Waqf Properties, they have shut their mouth. This is heights of Hypocrisy and Blind Faith..

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Unread post by humanbeing » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:33 am

Kothar Inc is working hard ! wait and watch… may be they will launch another website !

SMS camp may form another strategy, may be start building another facilities, interesting would be access to dargah resorts, they are one of the prime revenue stream for Kothari royals !

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Re: dawoodi bohra in print media .

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Unread post by true_bohra » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:48 am

So now there is fateh Mubeen chants on KQ side. Arent you guys following the same tone.

Few days back you were accusing kothar to misinterpreting recusal with refusal words. Now you are chanting fateh mubeen for KQ just for an ad interim order passed by Gujrat Court.

After all its an ad interim order till the matter is ready for the judge to be read and litigation be continued and restraining one party to act about it. So its not a complete Fateh Mubeen for you as well 8)

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Unread post by Maqbool » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:23 am

TB who is chanting fateh mubin! On this forum every body knows what is the court order and that is only said here. Where as there was massages and audios on whatsup on recurse twisted to refusal. Of course it was not from the official side of kothar. The kothar is so cunning they will never do officially but put it in such a way it looks officially.

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Unread post by true_bohra » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:18 am

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Truth-Prevails wrote:The first of many restraining orders. Alhamdolillah.

PRESS RELEASE: 16 April 2014. Filing of Writ Petitions in the Gujarat High Court by His Holiness Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin TUS, being the 53rd Dai al-Mutlaq and Head of the Dawoodi Bohra Community Alleging Violation of the Principles of Natural Justice by Several Authorities who have Without Due Process Passed Orders Entering Shehzada Mufaddal Saifuddin’s Name As Sole Trustee of Numerous Trusts And Wakfs. Ad-Interim Order Granted by the Honourable Gujarat High Court on 16/4/2014.

Mumbai, 16th April 2014

His Holiness Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin TUS, has, in furtherance of his assertion of being the 53rd Dai al-Mutlaq, which is based on truth (Haqq) and principle, filed eight Writ Petitions before the Gujarat High Court being Special Civil Application Nos. 5478 to 5485 of 2014, that allege a large scale violation of the principles of natural justice on the part of several Assistant Charity Commissioners and the Gujarat Wakf Board who have without giving a hearing and without issuing notices to him passed orders permitting Shehzada Mufaddal Saifuddin’s name to be entered as sole trustee of numerous public trusts believed to be exceeding 75 and wakfs exceeding 250 in number.

The Writ Petitions filed in the Gujarat High Court state that soon after the sad demise of the 52nd Dai al-Mutlaq His Holiness Syedna Mohammed BurhanuddinRA on the 17th of January 2014, the Wakf Board passed an order entering Shehzada Mufaddal Saifuddin’s name on January 23, 2014 and that too within just 2 days of an application having been filed. One day after the Wakf Board passed the order, Abdul Qadir Nooruddin, the son in law of Shehzada Mufaddal Saifuddin, signed more than about 150 Change Reports which came to be filed in the offices of Assistant Charity Commissioners in about 20 districts on or about January 27, 2014, only 10 days after the sad demise of the 52nd Dai RA.

In Mehsana and Patan, orders have been passed by Assistant Charity Commissioners in 48 hours, in Amreli and Jamnagar within about 15-17 days of Change Reports having been filed and with a similar haste in other places. Such orders have also been passed in Gandhinagar, Bhavnagar, Junagadh, Rajkot, Dahod, Godhra and Valsad. The Hon’ble High Court has been urged to look into this gross large scale violation of the principles of natural justice and the passing of orders at such a haste without following due process by these authorities. The orders have been passed without making any inquiry and without giving any reasons.

The matter was listed for hearing today (16th April 2014) and the Hon’ble High Court of Gujarat has passed an ad-interim order restraining Shehzada Mufaddal Saifuddin, his agents and his servants from alienating, selling, transferring or dealing with in any manner the assets and properties of about 75 public trusts and 261 wakfs till the next returnable date. Order passed in Special Civil Application No. 5478 of 2014 is reproduced herein below:

“Notice returnable on 25.04.2014. Ad-interim relief in terms of paragraph no. 28(C)(ii) is granted till then. Direct service is permitted.”

His Holiness Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin TUS filed a declaratory suit in the Mumbai High Court on [29th March 2014] against Shehzada Mufaddal Saifuddin seeking reliefs that the Honourable Court declare him to be the 53rd Dai al-Mutlaq, and to restrain Shehzada Mufaddal Saifuddin from in any manner holding himself out as or doing any acts, deeds or things as the Dai al-Mutlaq of the Dawoodi Bohra Community. The ad-Interim application in this suit is scheduled to be heard on the 29th April 2014. This suit was filed after repeated attempts to resolve this matter internally, including by an invitation to debate this matter and establish his rightful claim based on nass conferred on him on [10th December 1965] by His Holiness Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb RA, the 52nd Dai al-Mutlaq, following the guidance of His Holiness Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA, the 51st Dai al-Mutlaq. All the attempts made by His Holiness Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin TUS, have been ignored and rebuffed by Shehzada Mufaddal Saifuddin, who has made several false and contradictory claims as to how nass was performed on him.

Having faithfully served the Community with complete love, faith and respect for His Holiness Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA and His Holiness Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb RA, His Holiness Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin TUS willcontinue on the true path (Siratul Mustakeem) of a spiritual and moral life that leads to salvation (Najaat) in the Hereafter (Aakherat) and to encourage the members of the community to scale heights of religious and temporal knowledge and education, to encourage the pursuit of excellence in various fields of business and professional services, and to lead a life of excellence in all fields.

To ensure that the path set by the previous Dai al-Mutlaqs is followed, and the Community is not torn asunder by false claimants, and having full faith in the Indian Judiciary, His Holiness has approached the Honourable Courts for appropriate remedies.

His Holiness Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin TUS believes that these recent developments are of paramount importance for the Dawoodi Bohra Community for generations to come and unless resolved completely, can also have adverse implications on the sacrosanct notions of religious freedom, rights for women and communal harmony of our great Nation.


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Re: dawoodi bohra in print media .

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Unread post by AgnosticTheist » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:41 am

Real Fateh Mubeen starts now
I think it means that SKQ camp has started their journey to victory. Whereas the whatsapp message suggests that the game is over and SMS won already. See the difference?




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Re: dawoodi bohra in print media .

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:02 pm

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-if ... xt-1981001


Pravin Togadia created ruckus for making communal statements whivh were rebutted by BJP's Prime Ministerial candidate Narendra Modi. Below is a transcription of his advice given at Bhavnagar as mentioned by LiveMint.

The meeting was called after a man, apparently a Dawoodi Bohra, bought a property in a Hindu area. The other Hindus in the neighbourhood want him out. Togadia is offering them advice.

The video is clear and so is the audio. No words or sentences are inaudible.

“In many of India’s villages and cities, Muslims have been doing this sort of thing for a long time.

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Re: dawoodi bohra in print media .

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Unread post by Maqbool » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:55 am

Mr. Aliasger a DB, is targeted by Togadia. Is there any effect of Modi friendship with MBS!

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Unread post by Truth-Prevails » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:26 am

Aliasger must be believing in SKQ and therefore Shehzada MS must have asked Togadia to do his handy work. He atleast did not say - "Bhagwan ehna Ghar ne jalavi de, ehna kapra ne jalavi de, ehna dukaan ne jalavi de.. like Shz MS to the Udaipur Youth.

Come to think of it. Shz MS is more radical and extreme in this views about Bohras than even Togadia and Modi..

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Unread post by adna_mumin » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:49 pm

http://lettersblogatory.com/2012/01/13/ ... vahanvaty/

A private family case of conflict heard/arbitrated by Shehzadas blogged by the Law firm shareholder

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