Haqq_Prevails wrote: Before readers fall for this trap which seems so convincing by Adam, let's examine the evidence and the history.
1) Written document Signed by the Dai - Remember Syedna Dawood bin Ajabshah's Khatib was also bribed by the Sulemani's and the children of Syedna Dawood bin Ajabshah to create a fake nass letter in favor of Suleiman, but we as Dawoodi bohras, chose to believe the then Mazoon Syedna Dawood bin Qutubshah. The similarities of that era and today's era are quite glaring, history repeats itself and those who don't learn from history pay with their souls. So given the circumstances in which this letter has emerged, and the way Mufatlal described the incident where he did not remember the day, date or even the year of such a momentous event of his life is quite telling that it is fake. As I argue other points below, the credibility of the Shehzadas is zero compared to that of the Mazoon of 50 years.
Altering History? Time for a dexterous history lesson!
Syedna Jalal RA had the sharaf of deedar of Imam uz Zaman AS in his dream twice.Do you know what happened the second time? Imam uz Zaman AS instructed Syedna Jalal RA to confer nass upon two Dawoods,Syedna Dawood bin Ajabshah RA and Syedna Dawood bin Qutubshah RA.
Syedna Dawood bin Ajabshah RA upheld the will of Syedna Jalal RA and conferred Nass upon Syedna Dawood bin Qutubshah RA repeatedly amongst all Hudood and mumineen during Majlis.Syedna Dawood bin AJabshah RA renewed Nass in presence of his hudood on 22nd Rabi ul Akhar.On the 27th,he passed away.
Syedna Dawood bin Qutubshah was the one who gave witness to the testimony that Syedna Yusuf Najmuddin RA conferred Nass upon Syedna Jalal RA. Do you think he was a Mazoon when people believed this said testimony?
Sulaiman bin Hassan sent condolence/tehniyat letter to Syedna Dawood bin Qutubshah RA referring to the latter as "Dai Mutlaq".In fact,it was the letters which played a big role in Emperor Akbar's ruling,Syedna Dawood bin Qutubshah RA also wrote two Risalas in favor of Nass and attested the signatures of the all the witnesses to the Nass.
So to claim people of that era chose to believe the word of Syedna Dawood bin Qutubshah RA just because he was a Mazoon is nothing but hogwash.The mumineen believed Syedna Dawood bin Qutubshah RA because the Hudood or they themselves were witness to the Nass just like the mumineen of today believe Raudat Tahera Nass e Jali and the witness testimony of private Nass Mubarak of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA.
Many people in Yemen didn't believe Sulaiman's claim save for a tribe or two.Those people of Yemen didn't believe Sulaiman not on account of "Mazoon's word" but due to Maula Chand Ali's word who was a witness to the will of Syedna Dawood bin Ajabshah RA.
Like a broken clock which is right twice in 24 hours,you are right when you say the similarities of that era and today is glaring.
Sulaiman bin Hassan accepted Nass for three years.Guess what? So did Khuzaima.
Sulaiman bin Hassan approached the court of Akbar for proving claim.Guess what? So did Khuzaima.(Bombay High Court)
Remember this.You resorted to childish and fallacious arguments.Haqq_Prevails wrote: So given the circumstances in which this letter has emerged, and the way Mufatlal described the incident where he did not remember the day, date or even the year of such a momentous event of his life is quite telling that it is fake.
On 4th Rabi ul Akhar last year,Khuzaima said "ehna pachi to mane Moulana ye haji kitni waar farmayu che ke mara waaris tame cho’’
Doesn't Khuzaima remember the day,date or even the year of such momentous events of his life?
Also,to provide a hard slap to your fallacy,let's mention the words of Syedna Tayyib Zainuddin RA.
http://believesyednaqutbuddin.com/2014/ ... d-mandate/Previous Doat Mutlaqeen RA have described the instances of nass upon them in a similar manner without explicitly mentioning a date. Syedna Tayyib Zainuddin RA has described the nass conferred upon him by Syedna Mohammed Ezzuddin RA in his own words. He speaks of a letter, one in which Syedna appoints him as his mansoos. This letter was written during the time of one of the plagues that afflicted Surat. He says:
Wa lamma kaana fi b´ad al-layaali. And one night, Syedna’s (Syedna Mohammed Ezzuddin RA) lofty health changed [for the worse]. He was afflicted so severely that he was unable to sleep the entire night. In the morning, however, he felt slightly better. He called me to his side and spoke of his illness and the night’s happenings. He then said, “A life that can be counted by [the number of] breaths is something that the intelligent should not hold faith in.”
Syedna Mohammed Ezzuddin RA then goes on to inform Syedna Tayyib Zainuddin RA that he has authored a document in which he has named him as his mansoos and has placed this document in a basket which he then pointed towards. Syedna Mohammed Ezzuddin RA then began speaking about something else.
This is the manner by which Syedna Tayyib Zainuddin RA describes the incident in which he first learns of the nass upon him: ‘and one night’.
If you believe that the narration of nass communicated by Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS is susceptible to doubt, then you must also doubt the nass narration given by Syedna Zainuddin RA.
In this same letter, Syedna Tayyib Zainuddin RA describes the second incident in which Syedna Mohammed Ezzuddin RA informs him that he has appointed him as his mansoos. He states:
And on the 15th of Shehrullah, Friday, Syedna Mohammed Ezzuddin RA called me to his honourable presence. I arrived, and sat before him as instructed. He picked up a document in front of him, and after looking through it for a while and moving his lips as if saying something, he handed it to me. He then said, “I by the ilhaam of Allah and the ilhaam of His Wali, upon him salaam, am giving you this document; read it.”
Syedna Zainuddin RA goes on to describe how this kitaab was the kitaab of nass upon him. It is interesting, nay providential, to mark that the manner by which Syedna Ezzuddin RA informs Syedna Zainuddin RA of his nass upon him, mirrors the manner in which Syedna Burhanuddin RA informed Syedna Saifuddin TUS of the same.