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kimanumanu
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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:41 am

ISSUES FRAMED ON 15TH SEPTEMBER 2014
IN
SUIT NO. 337 OF 2014
    1. Whether the suit is not maintainable for the reasons stated
      in paragraph 1 of the Written Statement?
    2. Whether this Court has no jurisdiction to entertain and try
      the suit or grant the reliefs prayed for as stated in the
      Written Statement?
    3. Whether the reliefs prayed for by the Plaintiff in prayers (b)
      and (h) are barred by the provisions of the Maharashtra
      Public Trusts Act, 1950 as stated in paragraph 3 of the
      Written Statement?
  1. What are the requirements of a valid Nass as per the tenets
    of the faith?
  2. Whether the Plaintiff proves that a valid Nass was
    conferred/pronounced on him as stated in the Plaint?
  3. Whether a Nass once conferred cannot be retracted or
    revoked or changed or superseded?
  4. Whether the Defendant proves that a valid Nass was
    conferred on him by the 52nd Dai:
    1. On 28th January 1969
    2. In the year 2005
    3. On 4th June 2011
    4. On 20th June 2011
    as stated in the written statement and if the answer to
    Issue 4 is in the negative then whether any Nass proved on
    the Defendant as above consequently amounts to a
    retraction or revocation or change or supersession of any
    Nass previously conferred on the Plainitff by the 52nd Dai?
  5. What Judgment and Decree?

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by UnhappyBohra » Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:50 am

next_generation2014 wrote:
alam wrote: Jungle999
SKQ has not made appearance in court either. No need to draw conclusions. Case is still going on - wait and watch what happens, who comes, who takes the witness stand, what is said, what is avoided. You will be informed then. Otherwise join the ranks of the soothsayers.

It's easy to jump to conclusions with and nitpicking bits and pieces of information. I guess that's what happens in the absence of transparencies - I don't blame you though. But this is a court case and proceedings are not yet over .
its good to believe that some magic will be happened in court for MS. but MS has not submitted cromwell as well as Roza tahera nass so no one has answer about this( including you). correct me if I am wrong;
Where did you get this list? From what I hear, the videos have not been withdrawn.

Sceptical
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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by Sceptical » Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:24 am

next_generation2014 wrote:
court_order2_18March2015_.pdf
Documents submitted by KQ and MS in Bombay high court
download/file.php?id=1569

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by james » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:10 am

UnhappyBohra wrote: I went through the list of evidence you had posted earlier because I did not believe that they would remove the Raudat Tahera "nass" and the Cromwell "nass" videos from the evidence list. But it is true!! This is REALLY telling. It is clear now that MS and co. think that what they offered to mumineen world wide as "proof" of nass by SMB on MS will not stand up in court. Indeed, the score of Crater Lake vs. Adam has jumped to 100:0 in favor of Crater Lake.

She was so right....They just cannot explain Burhanuddin Moula questioning naam su che? su naam che? Mohammed naam che? Because if they claim that he was identifying himself when he said "Shaikh Mohammed" and then questioning his own name, it brings into question the state of mind when he conferred this so-called nass. Wow these MSquitoes have really dug themselves in a hole.

UnhappyBohra wrote:
Where did you get this list? From what I hear, the videos have not been withdrawn.
After white knighting Crater Lake emphatically,the moron UnhappyBohra now questions the very same thing he himself authenticated a page earlier.

UnhappyBohra is akin to a monkey jumping from one branch to another for fitnat purposes.

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by james » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:18 am

I'm surprised to see the intellectual heavyweights *cough* lack the basic know-how of legal terms.

The words of great importance in that court order pdf are :

Documents of the Defendant ADMITTED by the Plantiff.


Request to not break the internet by frantically searching for "admission of documents in a legal case". :lol:

next_generation2014
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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by next_generation2014 » Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:00 am

UnhappyBohra wrote:
next_generation2014 wrote: its good to believe that some magic will be happened in court for MS. but MS has not submitted cromwell as well as Roza tahera nass so no one has answer about this( including you). correct me if I am wrong;
Where did you get this list? From what I hear, the videos have not been withdrawn.
http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/downloa ... hp?id=1569

kimanumanu
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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:12 am

To clarify, the Raudat Tahera event video and the diary pages have been submitted by SKQ side.

What is missing are the Cromwell audio and video. Why have those not been submitted by either side?

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:08 pm

watsup msg ;-

Em lakhaan chhe ke 28.04.2015 Tuesday, Bombay High Court maa hearing chhe to koi haazir thaai nahi ane watsup ke internet or media ke koi reete felaave nahi..... Quran Sharif padhe.

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by AgnosticIndian » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:24 am

Barabar chhe.
Court ma aavse to baddhi pol khulli jaasey.
Shaana chhe.
ghulam muhammed wrote:watsup msg ;-

Em lakhaan chhe ke 28.04.2015 Tuesday, Bombay High Court maa hearing chhe to koi haazir thaai nahi ane watsup ke internet or media ke koi reete felaave nahi..... Quran Sharif padhe.

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next_generation2014
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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by next_generation2014 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:43 am

http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 786_1.html

Khuzaima Qutbuddin, who claims to be the 53rd Dai Al-Mutlaq and head of the Dawoodi Bohra community, today told the Bombay High Court that none of his siblings is openly supporting his claim and demand that he should be declared as the Syedna.

Justice Gautam Patel today began hearing arguments over the succession row with recording evidence of Qutbuddin.

Qutbuddin (74), who is the incumbent Syedna's uncle, had filed a suit in the high court in April last year soon after the death of his half brother Mohammed Burhanuddin who was the 52nd Syedna. Burhanuddin die on January 17 last year at the age of 102.

Qutbuddin, in his suit, had sought the high court to declare him as Syedna instead of Burhanuddin's second son Mufaddal Saifuddin. Qutbuddin sought for Mufaddal to be restrained from holding himself or doing any acts, deeds or things as the 53rd Dai al-Mutlaq of the community. In his suit, Qutbuddin termed Mufaddal's succession as false.

"I have 12 brothers and eight sisters. Openly none of them supports my claim in this suit. I have received indications that they do support me but not openly," Qutbuddin told the court.

Qutbuddin was asked several questions pertaining to practices of the Bohra community and degrees conferred on the Syedna.

The court will continue recording his evidence tomorrow.

Qutbuddin's family had earlier claimed that they had tried repeatedly to resolve the issue internally. "We even invited him (Mufaddal) for a debate and establish the rightful claim of nass (succession). But all the attempts have been ignored and rebuffed by Shehzada Mufaddal Saifuddin," the family had said earlier in a press note.

Qutbuddin claimed that the late Syedna had chosen him his Mazoon (deputy) and secretly appointed him as his successor 50 years ago.

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by dawedaar » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:15 pm

The Bombay High Court had ordered in its last hearing that no more than 25 people from each side will be allowed in and around court premises this time. The court had ordered that passes be given to those people (lol even the court knows the importance of pass in abdes' lives)
AgnosticIndian wrote:Barabar chhe.
Court ma aavse to baddhi pol khulli jaasey.
Shaana chhe.

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by dawedaar » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:58 pm

What do u think will be the final outcome of d case and what will be the future?

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:03 pm

dawedaar wrote:What do u think will be the final outcome of d case and what will be the future?
May be Justice Patel will declare himself to be the next Dai by revealing that he received the testimony from the Imam directly :) :)

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by next_generation2014 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:03 pm

SBM wrote:
dawedaar wrote:What do u think will be the final outcome of d case and what will be the future?
May be Justice Patel will declare himself to be the next Dai by revealing that he received the testimony from the Imam directly :) :)
:D :)

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by next_generation2014 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:15 pm

http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report-n ... in-2081251

"I have 12 brothers and eight sisters. While none of them openly backs my claim of being the 53rd Syedna, I have received indications that they do support... however, they haven't filed oath of allegiance in my favour," said Khuzaima Qutbuddin, the uncle of the incumbent 53rd Syedna Muffadal Saifuddin, told the Bombay high court on Monday. Qutbuddin challenged Saifuddin's succession soon after the death of the 52nd dai Mohammed Burhanuddin.

Qutbuddin is being cross examined in the HC over his claim. Counsel Iqbal Chagla, who is appearing for Saifuddin, questioned Qutbuddin on the highest degree being conferred by the Aljamea tus Saifiyah.
This was to bring forth his knowledge of Islamic studies and degrees being conferred by the principal of the Dawoodi Bohra community's educational institute.

He was also asked about the degree conferred upon him by the 51st dai, to which he replied that he was conferred with the degree of Al-Aleem al Bare (the outstanding scholar). He added that the 52nd dai Burhanuddin had not conferred any degree or title on him.

Qutbuddin also told the court that the highest title is the Ulemaat al Ulama al muwahhadeen (support of unparalleled scholar), which was given to Burhanuddin by the 51st dai. The cross-examination will continue on Tuesday.

In June 2011, Saifuddin was nominated successor, according to a press statement from the community. Qutbuddin publicly challenged the succession for the first time after Burhanuddin's death on January 17 last year.

Qutbuddin claimed that he did not challenge Saifuddin's false claims until now because he (Qutbuddin) had been asked to maintain his appointment in confidence by Burhanuddin. He prayed and hoped that "Syedna Burhanuddin Saheb would recover and set the position right in the manner he deemed appropriate".

Meanwhile, justice Gautam Patel also received a letter from a follower of Saifuddin asking for facilities — prayer room and separate toilets — as the hearing would be on a daily basis. The court refused to entertain the application and directed the registry not to accept any applications in the case, unless made by advocates of either parties.

In another development, the court also seized a voice recording brought by one of the followers to tape the court proceedings. Justice Patel directed both sides to inform their supporters to avoid doing such things.

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:08 am

the best way is for the judge to direct both the claimants to debate it openly in front of the court face to face--one to one without any advocates--and declare the dai who emerges the winner
simple

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:32 am

SIBLINGS DON’T ‘OPENLY’ SUPPORT SYEDNA CLAIM, QUTBUDDIN TELLS HC

Mumbai Mirror Bureau

Khuzaima Qutbuddin, 74, claimant to seat of the 53rd Dai Al-Mutlaq and head of the Dawoodi Bohra community, told the Bombay High Court on Monday that none of his 20 siblings have "openly" supported his claim, though "he had indications that they supported him" and demanded that he should be declared as the Syedna.

The statement was made by Qutbuddin before Justice Gautam Patel who is conducting the trial over the Syedna's succession row. According to Qutbuddin, the late Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin, who died at the age of 102, had chosen Qutbuddin as his Mazoon (deputy) and secretly appointed him as his successor 50 years ago.

In a first, the evidence of a person was video-recorded inside the court room. Justice Patel had passed an order last month to this effect after he was informed of some speech impairment which Qutbuddin was suffering from.

Qutbuddin had filed a suit in the HC in April last year, soon after the death of his half-brother Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin's death in January last year. Qutbuddin had sought to declare him as Syedna instead of Burhanuddin's second son Mufaddal Saifuddin. Terming Mufaddal's succession as false, Qutbuddin, represented by senior advocate Ravi Kadam, sought for Mufaddal to be restrained from holding himself or doing any acts, deeds or things as the 53rd Dai al-Mutlaq of the community.

Qutbuddin was also asked several questions pertaining to practices of the Bohra community to confer degrees and titles based on the knowledge one possesses.

According to Qutbuddin, he was conferred the second highest degree called al-Aleem-al-Bare by the 51st Dai. The senior counsel Iqbal Chagla representing Mufaddal Saifuddin, contended that it is the third highest degree. Chagla also contended that Qutbuddin was conferred a degree by the 52nd Dai as well, but Qutbuddin could not recall any such thing. Chagla contended that the highest degree - known as Umdat-al-Ulama-al-muwahhadeen, was conferred by 52nd Dai on Mufaddal Saifuddin, which was accepted by Qutbuddin.

Qutbuddin's deposition will continue on Tuesday as well.

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/othe ... 076997.cms

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:45 am

fustrate_Bohra wrote:SIBLINGS DON’T ‘OPENLY’ SUPPORT SYEDNA CLAIM, QUTBUDDIN TELLS HC

Mumbai Mirror Bureau

Chagla also contended that Qutbuddin was conferred a degree by the 52nd Dai as well, but Qutbuddin could not recall any such thing. Chagla contended that the highest degree - known as Umdat-al-Ulama-al-muwahhadeen, was conferred by 52nd Dai on Mufaddal Saifuddin, which was accepted by Qutbuddin.
It seems yesterday's hearing doesn't went well for KQS.

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by Sceptical » Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:18 am

can someone explain what are those "degrees" ?

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by thesource » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:05 am

By the way what's a bigger a degree or the position of Mazoon?



fustrate_Bohra wrote:
fustrate_Bohra wrote:SIBLINGS DON’T ‘OPENLY’ SUPPORT SYEDNA CLAIM, QUTBUDDIN TELLS HC

Mumbai Mirror Bureau

Chagla also contended that Qutbuddin was conferred a degree by the 52nd Dai as well, but Qutbuddin could not recall any such thing. Chagla contended that the highest degree - known as Umdat-al-Ulama-al-muwahhadeen, was conferred by 52nd Dai on Mufaddal Saifuddin, which was accepted by Qutbuddin.
It seems yesterday's hearing doesn't went well for KQS.

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by objectiveobserver53 » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:07 am

fustrate_Bohra wrote:
fustrate_Bohra wrote:SIBLINGS DON’T ‘OPENLY’ SUPPORT SYEDNA CLAIM, QUTBUDDIN TELLS HC

Mumbai Mirror Bureau

Chagla also contended that Qutbuddin was conferred a degree by the 52nd Dai as well, but Qutbuddin could not recall any such thing. Chagla contended that the highest degree - known as Umdat-al-Ulama-al-muwahhadeen, was conferred by 52nd Dai on Mufaddal Saifuddin, which was accepted by Qutbuddin.
It seems yesterday's hearing doesn't went well for KQS.
I guess SKQ's counsel needs to explain that a Rutba supercedes any degree and that despite any ceremonial degree that may have been conferred on him, MS cannot muster up the knowledge to construct five meaningful sentences on his own :roll: "Your Holiness, what Rutba was conferred on you? What is the meaning of that Rutba? In the heirarchy of Dawat, what position does that Rutba place you in, after the position of the Dai? Does it supercede the Jamea degree tossed to Mufaddal Saifuddin?"

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by lawgraduate » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:08 am

poor KQ is just being terrorized by mufaddali terrorist, if court say MS is true then abdes will have some serious reasons to worry.

Thank god I am away of all these drama I am also trying hard to keep my far relatives out of it but many have already lost consciousness in dhol tamasha so they hardly listen.

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by MMH » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:37 am

Whatsapp messages:

Chagla has questioned SKQ in today's hearing whether SMB ever tried to malign him to which he has fiercely replied 'NEVER, NEVER'

Looks like the judge's assistant came to seek SKQ's blessings and some of the police staff also sought SKQ's blessings.

Besides that there were 3 to 4 tapori bohra boys hanging around the court who were probably looking to create trouble. These boys have been beaten by the police and detained as well.

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by thesource » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:20 am

Yesterday one of muffys boys, it was some Mudar bs' son (don't know the name) had got some recording machine and was caught by the police. It was because of SKQ's lawyers that the Judge just let him go with a warning and he had to tender an apology letter. As this is clear contemp of court.

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by thesource » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:25 am

Well that's true.
Also a lot of senior lawyers were rushing up to SKQ today to get his blessings.

And here we have Muffy who doesn't have the courage to go to court and be a witness to his own nass rather he sends his brothers to do the needful for him. #fakeguy

MMH wrote:Whatsapp messages:

Chagla has questioned SKQ in today's hearing whether SMB ever tried to malign him to which he has fiercely replied 'NEVER, NEVER'

Looks like the judge's assistant came to seek SKQ's blessings and some of the police staff also sought SKQ's blessings.

Besides that there were 3 to 4 tapori bohra boys hanging around the court who were probably looking to create trouble. These boys have been beaten by the police and detained as well.

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by next_generation2014 » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:57 am

Next hearing date is tomorrow 29/04/2015

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by next_generation2014 » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:09 pm

http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 052_1.html

Khuzaima Qutbuddin, claimant for the position 'Dai Al-Mutlaq' (head of Dawoodi Bohra community), today told the Bombay High Court that his half- brother and late 52nd Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin had appointed him as 'Mazoon' (second in command) before he died.

"The late Syedna had also issued a sermon at that time that I was a beloved son....This signifies that I was his successor," said Qutbuddin who has challenged the succession of Muffadal Saifuddin, Syedna's son, as the 53rd Dai.

Qutbuddin (74), who has filed a suit seeking that he be declared the 53rd Syedna, was being cross-examined by the lawyer of present Syedna, Muffadal Saifuddin. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin died on January 17, 2014.

Qutbuddin stated that the late 52nd Dai, had on December 10, 1965, conferred a 'nass' (process for appointing a successor) on him. However, he had not made it public and told him to keep it a secret.

To Saifuddin's argument that there was no witness to the 'nass', Qutbuddin said that he himself was a witness.

Other than Syed Saleh Bhaisaheb (the third in command after the Syedna and called as 'Mukasir'), others may have also known about conferring of the 'nass' on him because they accorded more respect to him thereafter, he added.

Qutbuddin alleged that his brother late Yusuf bhaisaheb Najmuddin, who is the father-in-law of the incumbent Syedna Muffadal Saifuddin, and other brothers, their sons and daughters and supporters had 'schemed' to 'malign' his image.

"From 1961-62, Yusuf Bhaisaheb felt slighted and jealous. Yusufbhai personally told me that he was jealous of me... because I had attained such a high position at a young age," he alleged.

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:39 pm

Members who had expose long back that it's YUSUF NAJMUDDIN plan to malign KQS image comes out to be true by KQS statement. One more reason to believe that members in this site are genuine.

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by dawedaar » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:10 pm

Also, while searching this forum, I had found a post here which was made in 2005 that predicted that officially nas would happen on SMS but the way nas would be done or the stroke of SMB couldn't be predicted obviously!
fustrate_Bohra wrote:Members who had expose long back that it's YUSUF NAJMUDDIN plan to malign KQS image comes out to be true by KQS statement. One more reason to believe that members in this site are genuine.

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by dal-chaval-palidu » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:56 pm

Rutba (position) should superseed any degree in this case, as said by somebody above - Even Quaid Johar bhai saheb has PhD, these are conferred degrees ...

Who is #1 in this dawat? The dai.
Who is #2 in the dawat: Mazoom.

And the 2 are mutlaq, un-restricted authority, so that should count for something ...

every degree and every scholarly rank has to be below these two ..