Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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qutub_mamajiwala
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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:33 am

Qadir wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:51 pm

I don't know about your situation and who you take support from for spiritual matters. But please, please don't listen to Zakir Naik. He's worse than anyone who you can learn islam from
for once i agree with him

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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by Humsafar » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:50 pm

qutub_mamajiwala wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:33 am
Qadir wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:51 pm I don't know about your situation and who you take support from for spiritual matters. But please, please don't listen to Zakir Naik. He's worse than anyone who you can learn islam from
for once i agree with him
Agreed. This Zakir Naik character is radioactive. If you have a choice between him and absolute ignorance, choose absolute ignorance. And this is true of all "fundamentalist" preacher of every religion, creed and ideology. Some are worse than others, of course, and this guy is the worst.

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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by Shabab » Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:06 pm

Zakir naik has no clue. He was just a pawn of saudi arabia for few years and today no Islamic country wants him. Even malasiya wants to get rid of him as soon as possible.

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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by yfm » Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:33 pm

When you look back and remember Seyedna Burhanuddin performing the wedding of his son, now the present dai with Yusuf Najmuddin daughter, you will no doubt say that the next dai was already confirmed then.

We do not understand why Seyedna Qutbuddin did not object then.

This silsilo is now in the hand of the Burhanuddin family. There is no Imam present or gaib. It is all a matter of power and no deen.

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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by yfm » Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:21 pm

I have been told that although this is Progressive Dawoody Bohra Site, the other bohras, followers of SMS, like the kohthars, have nothing better to do, so come on this site and spy and find those who they believe should be excommunicated from the SMS site. Just to warn those who are allegiance to SMS and to PDB.

We bohras believe in dividing the community under what ever guise they may be.

Shame on these fitna kind of people.

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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by dal-chaval-palidu » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:02 am

yfm wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:33 pm When you look back and remember Seyedna Burhanuddin performing the wedding of his son, now the present dai with Yusuf Najmuddin daughter, you will no doubt say that the next dai was already confirmed then.

We do not understand why Seyedna Qutbuddin did not object then.

This silsilo is now in the hand of the Burhanuddin family. There is no Imam present or gaib. It is all a matter of power and no deen.
Can you please explain what you noticed which indicated that MS was the next dai?

Also, what exactly did you expect SKQ to object too?

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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by yfm » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:25 pm

It was common knowledge that Yusuf Najmuddin was conniving, cunning and ruthless. He knew he would not be the next dai but wanted to make sure that the next dai would have his progeny. Muffadal was being groomed to be the next dai and betrothed to Yusuf Najmuddin's daughter would ensure that the groom would have the support of Yusuf Najmuddin. These were all schemes that had been developed. SKQ knew that but was himself plotting to be the next dai so the chess game was in motion. However those in power outsmarted SKQ and what he was left with was the promise and that is what he depended on. There was nothing like the spiritual here. The spiritual beings were those like Imam Ali and Imam Hassan and Imam Hussein who believed in the Koran and the righteous. Here we have those in the name of Islam vie for power and the wealth. The Holy Koran notes people like these in one of the suras where it says, "those who do things that are worldly think not that Allah does not know". Well Allah knows and that is why there is chaos in these dais. Hope this helps Bhai Dal-chaval-palidu. Does these matter? Not when our lives are like a pebble on the sea shore. It is a miniscule of time and space. But it is good sometimes to enjoy the drama.

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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by yfm » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:53 pm

Bhai Dal-Chawal-Palidu, could not help but add this. These Dais including Yusuf Najmuddin had amassed so wealth in Germany and else where in Europe and Allah knows where else, that they would not think about giving up this wealth for any reason. So the fight for power was also to do with wealth.

This fight has all to do with power and wealth. These are the times unlike our Prophet (PBUH) (his wife Ma Khadija saheb) who was a billionaire by our current standards and the Prophet and his family sacrificed all their wealth for Islam. Gone are those special chosen Allahs being.

As the African would say, the white man came and gave us the Bible and took our land and the oppression continues.

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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by yfm » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:47 pm

SKQ should have objected to all these game playing and should not have been part of it and as Rudyard Kipling a non bohra and a non muslim would say, SKQ would have been a dai in need and a dai in deed.

Who knows, the dai in waiting is still to be appointed by the Imam in hiding.

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Re: Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by yfm » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:25 pm

If you take Imam Hussein Kasam, Allah all mighty helps you fulfil that. If You ask Imam Hassan for help, Allah finds you a helper, If you remember Imam Ali, then Ali is there without fail. Is there any dai, who can live up to such expectations? Only for those who are ripped off on the streets of miracles will distinguish the reverance from the mundane. Waky waky my dear friends. Do what is kheir while you are alive and not wait until you are dead because some dai will take you to a better place which will not be there for you or for the Dai.