Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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Akhtiar Wahid
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Re: Case filed against Shz MS in Mumbai High Court

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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:16 pm

THIS FIGHT IS GOING TO BE DIRTY AND UGLY......I CAN EVEN PREDICT SOME BLOODSHED!



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Unread post by monginis » Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:51 pm

I am so surprise to see for few guys this is a a drama and some thing to enjoy?

this is jihaad and instead of laughing and calling it drama, every momeen should take part in it, and try to help in some way.



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Unread post by Crater Lake » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:07 pm

At the minimum this court case will expose the fact that the whole London nass episode was a fabrication. Thinking people will wonder why the lie had to be propogated... So at best, it will open up our mazaars and masajid for visits and use by SKQ followers and provide the catalyst for the fence sitters to get off the fence. I doubt that it will prove anything to the brain-dead abdes...At this point, even if Muffy was proven to be Jack The Ripper, the abdes would put it down as yet another shaan and shout even louder MOLA MOLA... It's kinda sad...



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Unread post by Habeel » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:32 pm

Brother Voice, I really appreciate your post. I am Dawoodi Bohra because I believe so. Its individual responsibility which changes the things otherwise nothing changes. Especially the Qur'an quotes very well applies to us. As Gandhi's famous quote "Be the change that you want to see in the world"



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Unread post by bohrabhai » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:08 pm

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/othe ... 092989.cms
Dawoodi Bohra succession battle takes legal turn
Mumbai Mirror | Apr 2, 2014, 02.20 AM IST
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Late Syedna's half brother Qutbuddin moves HC challenging his nephew Saifuddin's ascension as Bohra head.

The succession battle for the title of Dai-al-Mutlaq, or head of the Dawoodi Bohra community, took a legal turn with the late Syedna's half brother filing a declaratory suit in Bombay High Court on Saturday.

The prime contention of the 700-page petition is to have Khuzaima Qutbuddin, the half brother, legally declared as the 53rd Dai-al-Mutlaq of the 12-lakh strong Bohra community, and simultaneously to restrain his nephew, Mufaddal Saifuddin, from acting as the Dai.

The battle for succession had begun the night the Syedna expired in January this year, with his half brother and his son both claiming be the new community head.

Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin has filed a suit in High Court against Shehzada Mufaddal Saifuddin, seeking relief that he (Khuzaima) be declared Dai-al-Mutlaq, a press release said, adding that Mufaddal Saifuddin should be restrained from holding himself out as or performing any acts or deeds as the Dai al-Mutlaq.

The Dai of the Dawoodi Bohra community controls the Dawat-e-Hadiyah, one of the community's richest trusts worth thousands of crores.

Earlier, Khuzaima's supporters had written to the charity commissioners of Maharashtra and Gujarat, seeking that no transfers should be made as regard to the trust's assets. "We still have to follow up on the complaints made to the charity commissioners," Khuzaima's son, Aziz Qutbuddin, said.

Khuzaima had also uploaded on his website a video made in 2011, when Mufaddal Saifuddin was allegedly pronounced 53rd Dai by the late Syedna at Saifee Masjid in Bhendi Bazaar, to prove that no formal announcement to the effect had been made by the late Syedna.

Mufaddal's supporters, however, subsequently got the video removed.

"They claimed copyright to the video and asked Youtube to block it," Aziz Qutbuddin further said. "What do they have to fear? Why do they not want that video there?" he questioned.

The Mufaddal Qutbuddin faction remained unavailable for comment.



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Unread post by bohrabhai » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:14 pm

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 095107.cms

New Syedna’s uncle takes succession row to Bombay high court
Mohammed Wajihuddin,TNN | Apr 2, 2014, 04.22 AM IST
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MUMBAI: Nearly three months after the death of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin, the 52nd Dai al-Mutlaq or spiritual head of Dawoodi Bohra community, his half-brother Khuzaima Qutbuddin has moved the Bombay high court against the succession of his nephew Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin as the community's head.

In his 700-page petition, Qutbuddin, apart from calling Saifuddin's succession as "false", has also sought the court's intervention to restrain him from "holding himself out as or doing any acts, deeds or things as the Dai al-Mutlaq of the Dawoodi Bohra community". Dai al-Mutlaq, or simply Dai, is the spiritual and temporal head of the community and controls a vast network of trusts which manage charities, mosques, madrassas, mausoleums and community halls.

"We tried repeatedly to resolve the issue internally. We even invited him for a debate and establish the rightful claim of nass (succession). But all the attempts have been ignored and rebuffed by Shehzada Mufaddal Saifuddin," said Qutbuddin's son Abdeali Qutbuddin. He added that his father has submitted "credible" documents to the court to support his claim to the much-revered title of Dai.

A source close to the family of Syedna Saifuddin told TOI that "they will not comment on the latest development as they have not seen the petition filed by Khuzaima Qutbuddin".

The battle for succession began soon after Syedna Burhanuddin's death on January 17, when Qutbuddin claimed that the late Syedna had chosen him his Mazoon (deputy) and secretly appointed him as his successor 50 years ago. This claim was immediately rejected by Saifuddin's followers. A small group of Qutbuddin supporters even complained of threats and harassment.

Abdeali said his father only wanted to ensure that "the path shown by the previous Dais is followed, and the community is not torn asunder by false claimants". Abdeali also claimed that the "false claims" have ruptured the fabric of the Dawoodi Bohra community, with many wives leaving their husbands and children getting separated from their fathers.

Seeking judicial intervention, Qutbuddin has said that the claim of Syedna Burhanuddin pronouncing nass on Mufaddal Saifuddin in March 2011 in London was false as "Syedna Burhanuddin had suffered a debilitating stroke and was medically unfit to even speak". To create confusion in the community, added Abdeali, Syedna Burhanuddin was brought to Mumbai in a critical condition in an air ambulance. "A ceremony was staged (at Saifee Masjid) where thousands were present but Syedna (Burhanuddin) could not speak clearly due to effects of the stroke," said Khuzaima Qutbuddin's other son Aziz. He added that he would soon come out with more details on the merits in the claims being made by his father.
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#67

Unread post by monginis » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:26 pm

bohrabhai wrote: The Mufaddal Qutbuddin faction remained unavailable for comment.
LOL, last line was funny.
saare kaha bhaag gaye? :mrgreen:



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#68

Unread post by monginis » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:30 pm

90% of abdes are dogle and bin pende ke lote, once they will see things are turning to SKQ side they will rush to thane like they were never throwing lanat on him...

but ALLAH will make justice INSHALLAH.



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#69

Unread post by silvertongue » Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:33 am

I wonder what will Mufaddalis do when KQ wins this legal battle?... Will they turn towards him (KQ) or just stick to Mufaddal B.s.



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#70

Unread post by Maqbool » Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:04 am

After all it is a good news. What ever out come of this case, bohras will be benefited time beings. The atrocities of Sezadas, Amils will be less till the case is on. There will not be dadagiri on collections and any other matter.

I personally hope that KQ bs wins the case. Because his philosophy on financial and administration management falls in line what average bohras wants.



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#71

Unread post by way2go » Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:19 am

THE PREGNANT DEER

In a forest, a pregnant deer is about to give birth.
She finds a remote grass field near a strong-flowing river.
This seems a safe place.
Suddenly labour pains begin.

At the same moment, dark clouds gather around above & lightning starts a forest fire.
She looks to her left & sees a hunter with his bow extended pointing at her.
To her right, she spots a hungry lion approaching her.

What can the pregnant deer do?
She is in labour!

What will happen?
Will the deer survive?
Will she give birth to a fawn?
Will the fawn survive?
Or will everything be burnt by the forest fire?
Will she perish to the hunters' arrow?
Will she die a horrible death at the hands of the hungry lion approaching her?

She is constrained by the fire on the one side & the flowing river on the other & boxed in by her natural predators.

What does she do?
She focuses on giving birth to a new life.

The sequence of events that follows are:

- Lightning strikes & blinds the hunter.
- He releases the arrow which zips past the deer & strikes the hungry lion.
- It starts to rain heavily, & the forest fire is slowly doused by the rain.
- The deer gives birth to a healthy fawn.

In our life too, there are moments of choice when we are confronted on αll sides with negative thoughts and possibilities.

Some thoughts are so powerful that they overcome us & overwhelm us.

Maybe we can learn from the deer.
The priority of the deer, in that given moment, was simply to give birth to a baby.

The rest was not in her hands & any action or reaction that changed her focus would have likely resulted in death or disaster.

Ask yourself,
Where is your focus?
Where is your faith and hope?

In the midst of any storm, do keep it on God always.
He will guide you if you stay on the right path,
He will never ever forsake or disappoint you. NEVER.
He will help you if you have faltered or strayed away...for
Remember, He neither slumbers nor sleeps...
Believe in Him....and believe in the one You know is on the path of Truth!
May the Lord bless you all always!



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#72

Unread post by DB- MUMBAIKAR » Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:17 am

alam wrote:The ordinary Bohra and adna Mumin's faith and imaan will be further hijacked, from what's left, by the 2 camps.
The ordinary folks are the losers while Mufaddalbhai Saheb and Khuzemabhaisaheb fight each other for their claim to succession and properties. Anyone have any more questions whether this is about Survival of the fittest? This is not even a real jihad.

Real jihad is going on in the heart and soul of most Bohras who are caught in the middle of this crippling betrayal.
Very well said...Indeed the real jihad is going on in our hearts. Unfortunately these two claimants who make tall claims that only they can save our souls from the fire of hell (so called "mumineen ni jaan ne jannat tak lai janaar") they dont even want to know or care what is the opinion or what is the mental / emotional situation of the common bohra like you, me and many others who truly use their conscience and know the difference between right and wrong. This is going to be the most critical time for the bohra community in its entire history of existence.

Most of us will agree that this court case will not at all do any good to the common bohra. We as a community will be further degraded in the eyes of the world and will be compared with cult followers like those of Asaram and other such criminal babas/saadhus who all ended their infamous careers either by committing criminal acts or infighting for wealth & properties.

However, in case of our community, there will be perhaps one more sect and the Ex-mazun followers, although far less are expected to be more on the Imaan and may follow the real islam (provided that ex-mazun actually put his philosophy in real practice !!) and on other the other hand, the mufaddalis followers will continue with their hopeless existence of slavery, idol worshipping and being treated like dirt all their lives inspite of fulfilling his and his band of thugs (i.e his family) never ending demand of wealth. Effectively, mufaddali's will be like "dhobi ka kutta na ghar ka na ghaat ka" as their existing life is already a hell (though most crazy abde's will not agree with this!!) and their afterlife will also be questioned by Allah Ta'ala as they were given an oppurtunity to come out of slavery and idol worshipping but they chose to continue to remain and follow shirk...

Having said the above and looking at the current scenario, SMS (although evil) has an upper hand in terms of strength of crazy followers (willingly or unwillingly !!) plus the political clout that he has bought and is still buying through unabashed access to the ill gotten wealth collected by force over more than a century from his, his father and grandfather's followers... On the other hand, Ex-Mazun will be fighting the battle with comparatively little resources and a wooden sword!!!

Let us pray that in the end only Haq prevails and the truth wins... May Allah Ta'ala give strength to the one who is on the right path of Imaan...Ameen.



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#73

Unread post by Saeed al Khair » Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:34 am

History informed that Taher Saifuddin was like beggar when he took over the charge. In lust of money and power he transferred his seat from Surat to Mumbai and loot mission was started. Due to the Satanic vision and mission of Yusuf Najmuddin Dawat turned into international Mafia. Today creed of the Dawoodi Bohras are completed against the real Islam,as per the efforts of Y. Najmuddin. Tawheed is disappeared and Shirk prevailed. Day and night Mufaddal remain busy to collect diamonds and gold.




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#75

Unread post by true_bohra » Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:01 am

ya its a wait and watch thing now. By the way all this forum members are very much literate and educated guys. Some are taking claasses from Phd holders but I want to ask a serious question.

What will happen when KQ gives his pleading in court of law that he was made successor in secret without any witness and evidences.. You all are wise to answer that.



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Unread post by talibeilm » Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:42 am

Whatever the outcome of the case one thing is for sure,the kothar which till date was accustomed to accumulate wealth will now have to spend huge amounts for the lawyers politicians and policemen.



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#77

Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:57 am

"Haram ki kamai.....Haram mein hee jaati hain!"
Now all this pomp and show of Qasr-e-Aali and Kothar will reduce and they will start to realize that what have they become (mongers). Now they will cry but this time their tears will be real, not like how they enact during the waezes.
Now they will get a hard kick on their backside for what they have done.
"Logon ko gumrah karne wale, aksar apni galtiyo ka shikar ban jaate hain"



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Unread post by DB- MUMBAIKAR » Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:04 am

talibeilm wrote:Whatever the outcome of the case one thing is for sure,the kothar which till date was accustomed to accumulate wealth will now have to spend huge amounts for the lawyers politicians and policemen.
Dont worry they (Kothar) have crazy abde's like True Bohra who will willingly increase their wajebaat to fight the court cases... or maybe in the coming ramzaan you may see one more column in the wajebaat form to collect funds for court cases. !!!! I wont be surprised if in the coming days they start collecting money through units (the normal practice of fooling bohra's) with 1 unit of INR/US$/CAD/AED 53,000/- and in multiples thereof.



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Unread post by humanbeing » Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:07 am

Kothar will not suffer ! They will put their staff to full optimization, be it marketing, public relations, legal and anti social activist in full swing. All kinds of techniques will be used to create an environment - a fog of make-believe judgement in their favor. Abdes are in trance, they will believe what is dished out to them in sabaks and bayaans rather then what is going on at the courts. Also courts are going to be manipulated with money and muscle power.

It is a bump for kothar,kothar has become an arrogant monster yet shrewd enough to finish any hint of threat to their existence. Dispute over dai and sucession may have affected the fan following, but they have enough rich selfish idiot abdes to get licked by.



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Unread post by true_bohra » Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:30 am

brother forget about sabaqs and all other out of court elements.

First thing is that while reading of the petition of 700 pages, when the point will come that the investiture was done in secrecy and without the witness, then court will directly throw out the petition because of the loose fact of prosecution that if there is no one to give testimony of such investiture then on what grounds the court should entertain such claim.

Moreover the court of law in indifferent to all such hidden points in risala sahrifa because such points are not proving any substantial claim of KQ. If he has to say that I was chosen by Syedna RA and he said Al walad al ahab three times then the court will put a big SO ???? in front of the prosecution and in defence the title of Syedna Mufaddal TUS of AALIQADAR AND AQEEQ UL YEMEN are much more stronger in rebuttal.

Also Abde ali in very high spirit says that KQ was waiting for the right time so that when Syedna RA recovers and then he could discuss the issue but defense has lot of pictures to show that Syedna use to attend many public functions after stroke and KQ was ignorant about that.

and as it was highlighted that he had already discussed the issue with Justice Ahmedi then he has lost it on ground that he kept his promise to make the nass hidden untill the right time. This itself proves that no nass was done on him and he and his children are all living in parallel world.



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#81

Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:34 am

true_bohra wrote:brother forget about sabaqs and all other out of court elements.

First thing is that while reading of the petition of 700 pages, when the point will come that the investiture was done in secrecy and without the witness, then court will directly throw out the petition because of the loose fact of prosecution that if there is no one to give testimony of such investiture then on what grounds the court should entertain such claim.

Moreover the court of law in indifferent to all such hidden points in risala sahrifa because such points are not proving any substantial claim of KQ. If he has to say that I was chosen by Syedna RA and he said Al walad al ahab three times then the court will put a big SO ???? in front of the prosecution and in defence the title of Syedna Mufaddal TUS of AALIQADAR AND AQEEQ UL YEMEN are much more stronger in rebuttal.

Also Abde ali in very high spirit says that KQ was waiting for the right time so that when Syedna RA recovers and then he could discuss the issue but defense has lot of pictures to show that Syedna use to attend many public functions after stroke and KQ was ignorant about that.

and as it was highlighted that he had already discussed the issue with Justice Ahmedi then he has lost it on ground that he kept his promise to make the nass hidden untill the right time. This itself proves that no nass was done on him and he and his children are all living in parallel world.
you never know.....SKQ sahib has not opened all his cards and he is not dumb enough to make claims and put this case forward in Bombay High court. He is smart and is doing timely deeds which are required to save us from the Imposter Muffadal saab!
He must be possesing documents and evidences which we are unaware of and only in court it might be presented.



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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:36 am

People like Peerbhoy etc will get activated in this tussle over succession and they will too give some crucial insights to defend SKQ sahib to make and take revenge.



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#83

Unread post by salaar » Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:55 am

in my opinion .......please dont mind my neutral observation but this case is not going to carry much weight and would go on without clear results



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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:20 am

Why is Muffadal saab acting so diplomatic and political towards media representatives. If he is right than why is he not available to make any remarks or comments, if he comes forward or his representative could answer or protest that would be very brave of them.



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#85

Unread post by true_bohra » Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:40 am

@akhtiar
If there is certain evidence that he possess then why has'nt he bought, why is he acting so cowardice in showing that evidence to public. If he is the right dai then it was his duty to bring people to haqq.

He should have showed the evidence first so that maximum can enter his dawat and there was no point of going to the court. Why he has to bring court and that too after 2 months of the demise of Syedna RA.

If you think he is brave then srry i will not agree. And yes I am stating all this as a professional and not as an abde. Hope you too will debate in same manner.

So my question again goes to you in your own words if he is right then why is not adament to his dawah in bringing proofs.



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Unread post by ARB » Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:53 am

"Old men wage wars and young men die"

I'm very pessimistic about this court battle. Average bohra lifestyle will continue whether SKQ is on top or SMS. They both are the progeny of STS. We have yet to see how SKQ is different from STS/SMB/SMS line.

My point of view now is, that whichever party SMS or SKQ has the Imam on their side, shouldnt really bother about the courts. What do they have to win by winning the courts? If SKQ is on Haq with the backing of the Imam, he should renounce the worldly wealth that he will fight for using the courts. The worldly empire is of no use if God and Imam are on his side, and infact it can be rebuilt again. The properties and empire amassed by the Dawat ruling family is mostly black, through extortion. Why would SKQ want any part of it?

Think about it, SKQ no where says he is fighting this court case to free the mumins or better their conditions. He is very clearly fighting to wrestle control of Dawat-e-Hadiya assets from the false claimant SMS only.

I have supported SKQ against SMS, but this kind of court battle puts some doubts as to who SKQ is fighting for? Himself or us? This has always been the "virsa" of the underclass. The elites will fight for their riches and the proles will tag along believing they have benefited somehow.



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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:09 pm

ARB bhai,
SKQ Sahib has been boycotted and cannot perform Islamic rituals and activities because he clearly right now does not have any premises to do anything. slowly and gradually through this case they will obtain something because things like access to Qabrastan, certain masjids, Qubbas and Markaaz are required by people who are following SKQ sahib, this case undoubtedly is for the people and welfare for people and relating to Muffadal Saab he wants to eat the whole cake and he thinks all this properties and possessions are his jaagir but, ultimately SKQ sahib is the Son of STS (RA) and Brother of SMB(RA) so he has equal rights and should not be boycotted.



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Unread post by AgnosticIndian » Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:16 pm

SKQ Fan wrote:
AgnosticIndian wrote:This is going to be so much fun. KQ is an insider. Knows ins and outs and it will be great if he exposes the Shezadas & Kothar.

One thing this case can do is take the patti off the Aql of Bohras.

For the moment I have no doubt Abdes will start to compare MS to STS who fought court cases. Only this time the opponent is the Mazoon of the previous Dai.

I am grab in some popcorn. Let te show begin
I take strong objection to yor post, this is not meant to provide you guys with some entertantment, Sayedna Qutbuddin (TUS) is fighting to save our souls and jaans. He is on Haq and as all Waliullahs will fight the Baatil and lead momineen to the path of Haq, Instead of grabbing a pop corn and watching the fun you should join us in our jihad to root out evil from our deen, lest on the Day of Judgement when allah calls you and asks you when you were provided with a golden oppurtunity to struggle agianst Baatil , and restore the rule of Haq what did you do, enoy the fun ?. Al hamdoliah we will get Fateh Mubeen
Well I don't care about either side though as a neutral I think KQ leads the contest in my eyes.

But then KQ is claiming the same Dai ship which reformist opposed. KQ claims to be the true inheritor of SMB. If so then now that KQ is promising transparency, how wajebat is paid etc is totally opposite of what happened during the reign of SMB. Is KQ repudiating what SMB did during his rule?

Since my family are all firmly and totally blind followers of MS, I hope their eyes & minds open with this case. All details should come out in the open and it will because KQ publishes everything on its site. So hope that continues.



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Unread post by AgnosticIndian » Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:22 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if MS side issues a new directive where Aamils start saying it is "Waajib" to go fida wih jaan ane MAAL to fight the court case. Start to collect money for the case.



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Unread post by JC » Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:33 pm

true_bohra wrote:brother forget about sabaqs and all other out of court elements.

First thing is that while reading of the petition of 700 pages, when the point will come that the investiture was done in secrecy and without the witness, then court will directly throw out the petition because of the loose fact of prosecution that if there is no one to give testimony of such investiture then on what grounds the court should entertain such claim.

Moreover the court of law in indifferent to all such hidden points in risala sahrifa because such points are not proving any substantial claim of KQ. If he has to say that I was chosen by Syedna RA and he said Al walad al ahab three times then the court will put a big SO ???? in front of the prosecution and in defence the title of Syedna Mufaddal TUS of AALIQADAR AND AQEEQ UL YEMEN are much more stronger in rebuttal.

Also Abde ali in very high spirit says that KQ was waiting for the right time so that when Syedna RA recovers and then he could discuss the issue but defense has lot of pictures to show that Syedna use to attend many public functions after stroke and KQ was ignorant about that.

and as it was highlighted that he had already discussed the issue with Justice Ahmedi then he has lost it on ground that he kept his promise to make the nass hidden untill the right time. This itself proves that no nass was done on him and he and his children are all living in parallel world.
So if you can understand tese points that court will throw out this case, cannot a former CJ of India guess that??