Sticky: Dawoodi Bohra's Succession of Dai Case in Mumbai High Court

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JC
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Re: Case filed against Shz MS in Mumbai High Court

#91

Unread post by JC » Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:39 pm

I am positive a former CJ of India is a better and knowlegeable lawyer than true_bohra ......... :lol:

And nobody has showed their total cards till now ............ a legal battle was expected .......... abdes will see everything MS does as Muslayhat, Taweel, Seyasat etc etc and whatever SKQ does in similar way is simply 'why' or 'he should have' ............. Loha he lohay ko kat-ta hay ......... :)

The time has come to wash dirty laundry in public....... :wink:



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#92

Unread post by SBM » Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:07 pm

Also the lawyer Yusuf Muchhalla is in SKQ camp before joining he used to represent Kothar



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#93

Unread post by accountability » Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:27 pm

I agree with GM, SKQ is not a weak contender, not only he matches in money but in power too. i have very reliably learnt that they have gotten some important records from london hospital, which may shed light on late Syedna's ability to comminucate. which will be deterimental for the claim of Syedna saifuddin. Also the hand written piece produced will not match the hand writing of late syedna or if proved to be modified will also effect the outcome. GM is right, these are changed time, before they were able to save from media's prying eyes. But now it is different.
there is one more thing, nass is not done by majority votes, so even if they could gather 99 percent of bohras, but cannot prove that it was done by late syedna while he was not invalid or incapicitated. may not hold ground in court. because according to doctorine, it has to be proclaimed by incumbent dai in his lifetime, and both in " jali and khafi" overt and covert, with "ilham" from imam ul asr.
if they have prayed for stay, and if the stay is granted, then consequences will be grave .
but one thing it proves, they always talked about ilham, ghaib, allah na dai, imam ni raza, but their dispute will be decided by a hindu judge(s). it is the irony .



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#94

Unread post by salaar » Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:33 pm

as a bystander i just want things to start, you know guys when a pressure cooker is filled with steam the pressure valve releases the extra steam, here this case will work as a pressure valve to save poor bohra folks from FAKHIR RAQAM and iam sure the attitudes of jamaat higher ups will also change as the attitude of public representatives changes before the election.



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#95

Unread post by qjbj » Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:55 pm

Interesting speech by Yusuf Muchhala. Many points will apply to this fight. In this fight the kothars are the bureaucrats and their masters muffy and YN gang.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA2dY8lgd8s



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#96

Unread post by SKQ Fan » Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:18 pm

it will be interesting to see if the court asks for the three liars who witnessed the miraculous revelation for Muqqadas Mouls Burhannudin to depose before it. How will they fare under cross examination, will they take an oath with the Quran in their hands, and be exposed as liars and cheats? Will the Muffadalis bring the day dreaming and most probably stoned Hindu who dreamt of Moula Burhanddin conveying nuss on Muffadal BS? All along the poor suffering Bohras were praying for deliverance from this greedy and evil Muffadli regime and now Allah has provided us with an oppurtunity to fight back Our Jihad is led by a most noble, virtous, brave and holy man Sayedna Qutbuddin (TUS) Insallah we will prevail and Muffdalis will be exposed. Allah and Haq is on our side



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#97

Unread post by salaar » Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:22 pm

dont jump to conclusions, theres a long way to go



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#98

Unread post by saminaben » Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:43 pm

SKQ Fan wrote:it will be interesting to see if the court asks for the three liars who witnessed the miraculous revelation for Muqqadas Mouls Burhannudin to depose before it. How will they fare under cross examination, will they take an oath with the Quran in their hands, and be exposed as liars and cheats? Will the Muffadalis bring the day dreaming and most probably stoned Hindu who dreamt of Moula Burhanddin conveying nuss on Muffadal BS? All along the poor suffering Bohras were praying for deliverance from this greedy and evil Muffadli regime and now Allah has provided us with an oppurtunity to fight back Our Jihad is led by a most noble, virtous, brave and holy man Sayedna Qutbuddin (TUS) Insallah we will prevail and Muffdalis will be exposed. Allah and Haq is on our side
Skq fan
I have been shocked to see your dialogue and harsh words, coming from so called Skq camp. Why, its no different from mentality of demonizing your opponents and oppression that we face under Yn camp. I ask again to all to control your insults and character assassination, it only stiffens dialogue to whoever insults the best. Your so called jihad resorts to useless name calling that does not speak well for the camp you seem to promote. Whatever happened to the dignity of skq camp -or is that just wishful thinking on our parts?



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#99

Unread post by adna_mumin » Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:28 pm

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/othe ... 144765.cms

"Doctor je ke te ke" reverberates from the recent bayaan of Mufaddal BS...

Pertinent and illogical statements that truly expose the narration of London incident.

The clincher "It would have been impossible for His Holiness to have drunk sherbet the night of June 4... he was documented to not be even able to initiate swallowing... and to be continuously completely unsafe for any oral intake. His Holiness would have immediately chocked on any such liquid and would gone into respiratory failure..."

And add to that "It surprises me that such an event would not be documented in the medical record, much less reported to the medical staff," referring to the point that Burhanuddin Aqa RA sat up and had sherbet.

Completely exposes the claim and therefore once one allegation is established as false the whole drama falls on its own.

Insha Allah TA courts action will be swift in hearing and not giving in to any sort of clout brought upon by the massive machinery. Aameen.



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#100

Unread post by Truth-Prevails » Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:47 pm

Thanks for the link Adna-Mumin

Read this
Late Syedna ‘too ill to have spoken coherently’
Mumbai Mirror | Apr 3, 2014, 12.26 AM IST

Late Syedna ‘too ill to have spoken coherently’
The late Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin and his brother, Khuzaima Qutbuddin
Mumbai Mirror Bureau

Opinions of three neurological experts from US form crux of suit filed by Qutbuddin, challenging Mufaddal's ascension as Bohra head.

The opinions of three neurological experts from United States form the crux of the 700-page declaratory suit filed in High Court by Khuzaima Qutbuddin, half brother of the late Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin, challenging his nephew Mufaddal Saifuddin's ascension as leader of the Dawoodi Bohras.

Qutbuddin, who was second in command as Mazoon for 50 years alongside the Syedna, said he was made 53rd Dai-al-Mutlaq in private in 1965. Mufaddal, on the other hand, claims he was appointed successor by his father from his hospital bed in London, and later re-conferred the succession in Mumbai.

While the late Syedna suffered a debilitating stroke in London in 2011, Qutbuddin and his supporters sought the views of neurological experts in US, who studied medical records of the Syedna to provide their opinion.

The Syedna suffered the stroke on June 1, 2011, and according to two of the reviews, he could not have possibly spoken coherently on June 4, when he allegedly 'loudly' pronounced his son, Mufaddal, as successor, after which sherbet was consumed by everyone.

According to the experts, medical records relied upon allegedly showed the Syedna's condition deteriorated in the few days following the stroke. "It is inconceivable that someone his age and with neurological deficits would have such a profound, yet transient recovery," read the medical review by Daniel Mankens, chairman of Neurology Beaumont Hospital, Michigan.

Mankens further said that family members usually report even the slightest improvement to medical staff. "It surprises me that such an event would not be documented in the medical record, much less reported to the medical staff," Mankens said.

The petition, a copy of which is with Mirror, also quotes Abdul Qadir, son of Dr Moiz Nooruddin, who was always with the Syedna. Qadir, who was allegedly witness to the late Syedna announcing Mufaddal would succeed him, is quoted as saying that after the announcement Mufaddal and the Syedna drank sherbet.

However, regarding drinking sherbet, the review by James M Gebel, Chairman of Neurology, Akron Medical Centre, Ohio, read, "It would have been impossible for His Holiness to have drunk sherbet the night of June 4... he was documented to not be even able to initiate swallowing... and to be continuously completely unsafe for any oral intake. His Holiness would have immediately chocked on any such liquid and would gone into respiratory failure..."

"There are many inconsistencies in their versions of when nuss was done," Qutbuddin's son Abdeali told Mirror.

While the suit was filed on Saturday, a notice of motion for interim relief was filed on Tuesday, seeking to refrain Mufaddal from any transaction on behalf of the Dawoodi Bohra Trust. The case is to come up for hearing soon.

Despite repeated attempts, the Mufaddal faction remained unavailable for comment.

and now see this

http://youtu.be/RDclbxg5YAE

Unbelievable but Syedna Burhanuddin RA was mis-used in his most critical time. Rather than caring for Syedna RA they wanted to concoct their fake nass and made up this unreal thing. I remember Abdul Qadir Nooruddin's speech where he said Syedna RA sat up and spoke loudly like he was doing bayaan.

Liars!!!!

May Allah protect Dawat, Dai uz Zaman and Mumineen and expose these liars.



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#101

Unread post by Bohra spring » Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:53 pm

My interest in this case is multiple

SMS wings will be clipped , his operations will be exposed

Of course SMS will throw In the best defence money can buy

Whoever the victor SMS or SKQ aam admi will be better informed of the secret mafia. Don't get me wrong SKQ is the better option for a freer progressive bohra future. I pray he wins but if he does not a lame SMS is acceptable

Regarding radicalisation and increase in temperature let reformists not fool ourselves dialogue will not change the community but assertive actions so tough talk combined by tough protests ,legal action , clandestine operations, sabotage are the next move.

And let us be less emotional about the remnants of Abdes who blindly want to follow SMS , we are here to repossess our rights our assets

We can be humane in our
tolerance and separation but first let us claim our stuff and then worry about feelings and concerns of Abdes

If Abdes mean our fanatic brothers sisters family friends so be it

In Islam it is ok to forgo your relatives including parents if they are not on haq
I don't mean barat but not get stuck on their side.



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#102

Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:33 pm

true_bohra wrote:First thing is that while reading of the petition of 700 pages, when the point will come that the investiture was done in secrecy and without the witness, then court will directly throw out the petition because of the loose fact of prosecution that if there is no one to give testimony of such investiture then on what grounds the court should entertain such claim.
If SMS claims that in his case the witnesses were his own brothers then the court will throw out his claims as the witnesses are "Interested Parties" having vested interest.
true_bohra wrote:defense has lot of pictures to show that Syedna use to attend many public functions after stroke
The pictures itself will expose SMS more because it will clearly show how SMB was literally dressed up and paraded in a palkhi which again will prove that SMB's health was extremely fragile and he indeed was very sick. Moreover it will also show how SMB just sat on a palkhi or taqht WITHOUT giving any bayans thereby proving that he definitely had problems in speech which again brings back the issue of alleged Nass in London Hospital which becomes more questionable then ever before.



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#103

Unread post by SKQ Fan » Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:43 pm

saminaben wrote:
SKQ Fan wrote:it will be interesting to see if the court asks for the three liars who witnessed the miraculous revelation for Muqqadas Mouls Burhannudin to depose before it. How will they fare under cross examination, will they take an oath with the Quran in their hands, and be exposed as liars and cheats? Will the Muffadalis bring the day dreaming and most probably stoned Hindu who dreamt of Moula Burhanddin conveying nuss on Muffadal BS? All along the poor suffering Bohras were praying for deliverance from this greedy and evil Muffadli regime and now Allah has provided us with an oppurtunity to fight back Our Jihad is led by a most noble, virtous, brave and holy man Sayedna Qutbuddin (TUS) Insallah we will prevail and Muffdalis will be exposed. Allah and Haq is on our side
Skq fan
I have been shocked to see your dialogue and harsh words, coming from so called Skq camp. Why, its no different from mentality of demonizing your opponents and oppression that we face under Yn camp. I ask again to all to control your insults and character assassination, it only stiffens dialogue to whoever insults the best. Your so called jihad resorts to useless name calling that does not speak well for the camp you seem to promote. Whatever happened to the dignity of skq camp -or is that just wishful thinking on our parts?
Saminabhen
My apologies to anyone who may have been hurt by my somewhat harsh rethoric. It was posted in the heat of the moment. Please be assured this language is not what our Sayedna Qutbuddin (TUS) tells us to use. He advises cvility,restraint and sabar at all times , a trait which is evident in his noble character and the way he has borne all the insults and laanats for all these days with fortitude and only doas for his opponents that they see the truth and Allah guidethem to Haq . Again apolgies to anyone , this use or rather mis use of words is entiely my fault and in no way reflects the senttiments of Sayedna Qutbuddin and his followers



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#104

Unread post by true_bohra » Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:18 pm

JC wrote:
true_bohra wrote:brother forget about sabaqs and all other out of court elements.

First thing is that while reading of the petition of 700 pages, when the point will come that the investiture was done in secrecy and without the witness, then court will directly throw out the petition because of the loose fact of prosecution that if there is no one to give testimony of such investiture then on what grounds the court should entertain such claim.

Moreover the court of law in indifferent to all such hidden points in risala sahrifa because such points are not proving any substantial claim of KQ. If he has to say that I was chosen by Syedna RA and he said Al walad al ahab three times then the court will put a big SO ???? in front of the prosecution and in defence the title of Syedna Mufaddal TUS of AALIQADAR AND AQEEQ UL YEMEN are much more stronger in rebuttal.

Also Abde ali in very high spirit says that KQ was waiting for the right time so that when Syedna RA recovers and then he could discuss the issue but defense has lot of pictures to show that Syedna use to attend many public functions after stroke and KQ was ignorant about that.

and as it was highlighted that he had already discussed the issue with Justice Ahmedi then he has lost it on ground that he kept his promise to make the nass hidden untill the right time. This itself proves that no nass was done on him and he and his children are all living in parallel world.
So if you can understand tese points that court will throw out this case, cannot a former CJ of India guess that??
Its obvious that the former CJI would not much better than me in law but dont draw your inferences based on loose facts.

1 It has already been proven that KQ submitted his case and evidence to justice ahmedi before the demise of Syedna RA so his point of keeping the nass secret is nullified.

2 Justice ahmedi stated that he gave his support to KQ before the demise of Syedna RA and at that time there was no such conflict. He has seen only one side of the coin and its not his mistake as i stated that there was no such claim at that time and he did not know any writtem testimonial of Syedna RA.

3 Court gives much weight to the party being prosecuter or defender who bring better and clear evidences. In this point there cannot be any debate. Even the former CJI knows this very well.

4 even if he brings the risalas and and the court asks for its transalation then still in any of the risala it is not explicitly mentioned that KQ is he successor. Whereas the yamani sahen diary entry contains such explicit and unambigous statement.

5 if senior advocate like yusuf muchala is on his side then dont forget about the faizullahbhoys and Mulla and Mulla being the legal councilors of badri mahal.



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#105

Unread post by accountability » Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:31 pm

this case is unlike chanda bhai galla case, there is no provision in indian panel code to decide this case. plaintiff claims that he was concurrently appointed maazon and successor in 1965. his claim may bear merit, as he was mazoon for 50 years during entire period of late sayedna's reign. if he was appointed mazoon in private and then attested by late syedna, which is the case. his claim bears merit. on the other hand syedna muffadal saheb's defence is based on a hospital proclaimation in front of his 3 brothers, brother in law and grand son.
if skq could produce the video of that day in hospital, which every hospital has, and it could be summoned by the judge, what times these individuals visited on that day. if their timing of visiting the hospital is not the same, or if one of them did not visit the hospital that day, then plaintiff has a valid point to counter the claim of defence.
succession or ascension or elevation to post of dai is not heriditory, nor is it by election. according to doctorine it is solely the prerogative of incumbent dai to appoint his successor with ilham of imam ul asr.
the other thing skq can also claim, that he has claimed it before in 80's . but late syedna did not issue any denial to his claim. morever just recently late syedna has attended skq grandson birthday.
it is interesting, i am trying to analyze it dispassionately.
also there is no legal precedent in thsi case. judge will have to rely on bohra doctorine and bohra precedence. late syedna was also mazoon before appointed as successor.



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#106

Unread post by S. Insaf » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:09 am

Late Syedna ‘too ill to have spoken coherently’
Mumbai Mirror | Apr 3, 2014
Mumbai Mirror Bureau


Opinions of three neurological experts from US form crux of suit filed by Qutbuddin, challenging Mufaddal's ascension as Bohra head.

The opinions of three neurological experts from United States form the crux of the 700-page declaratory suit filed in High Court by Khuzaima Qutbuddin, half brother of the late Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin, challenging his nephew Mufaddal Saifuddin's ascension as leader of the Dawoodi Bohras.

Qutbuddin, who was second in command as Mazoon for 50 years alongside the Syedna, said he was made 53rd Dai-al-Mutlaq in private in 1965. Mufaddal, on the other hand, claims he was appointed successor by his father from his hospital bed in London, and later re-conferred the succession in Mumbai.

While the late Syedna suffered a debilitating stroke in London in 2011, Qutbuddin and his supporters sought the views of neurological experts in US, who studied medical records of the Syedna to provide their opinion.

The Syedna suffered the stroke on June 1, 2011, and according to two of the reviews, he could not have possibly spoken coherently on June 4, when he allegedly 'loudly' pronounced his son, Mufaddal, as successor, after which sherbet was consumed by everyone.

According to the experts, medical records relied upon allegedly showed the Syedna's condition deteriorated in the few days following the stroke. "It is inconceivable that someone his age and with neurological deficits would have such a profound, yet transient recovery," read the medical review by Daniel Mankens, chairman of Neurology Beaumont Hospital, Michigan.

Mankens further said that family members usually report even the slightest improvement to medical staff. "It surprises me that such an event would not be documented in the medical record, much less reported to the medical staff," Mankens said.

The petition, a copy of which is with Mirror, also quotes Abdul Qadir, son of Dr Moiz Nooruddin, who was always with the Syedna. Qadir, who was allegedly witness to the late Syedna announcing Mufaddal would succeed him, is quoted as saying that after the announcement Mufaddal and the Syedna drank sherbet.

However, regarding drinking sherbet, the review by James M Gebel, Chairman of Neurology, Akron Medical Centre, Ohio, read, "It would have been impossible for His Holiness to have drunk sherbet the night of June 4... he was documented to not be even able to initiate swallowing... and to be continuously completely unsafe for any oral intake. His Holiness would have immediately chocked on any such liquid and would gone into respiratory failure..."

"There are many inconsistencies in their versions of when nuss was done," Qutbuddin's son Abdeali told Mirror.

While the suit was filed on Saturday, a notice of motion for interim relief was filed on Tuesday, seeking to refrain Mufaddal from any transaction on behalf of the Dawoodi Bohra Trust. The case is to come up for hearing soon.

Despite repeated attempts, the Mufaddal faction remained unavailable for comment.



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#107

Unread post by Maqbool » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:23 am

true_bohra wrote:What will happen when KQ gives his pleading in court of law that he was made successor in secret without any witness and evidences.. You all are wise to answer that.
But first think what will happened when the hospital episode will be proved full of lie!



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#108

Unread post by humanbeing » Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:06 am

True Bohra

Observations are also valid, lets look at the scenario from another point of view.

SMB proclaiming “nass” in closed doors in front of his own children ( which are basically the beneficiary) to the “nass” or successorship will hold any ground in the court of law ? Let them show the video of London Hospital where Dai proclaimed “nass” as claimed by kothar !

From the court ( neutral) point of view, both the events of “Nass” are ambigious. If one can consider the mental and health condition of SMB during the time of “Nass” event, it is objectionable subject to scrutiny of health / medical reports ! on other hand, as SKQ claims of “nass” in secret is also not acceptable. A 700 page petition must have something more interesting then emphasis on secretive nass event.


As It is propogated that, anointment of Dai is from Imam-uz-Zaman, he is the final authority. A Dai can be only chosen by Previous Dai with Ilhaam of Imam-uz-Zaman ! sky and earth has moved, governments have raised and fallen, tsunamis and earthquakes have happened, dynasties flourished and disappeared, and past has been flushed with controversies over succession of duaats. But our beloved Imam-uz-Zaman has not come out in open ! although he is wajid-e-wujood ! to put such mess in order for is people.



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#109

Unread post by monginis » Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:42 am

I really pity those who call them self bohra and clinge to remain in fold but yet doubt on existance of Imam.

@ Human Being
sky and earth has moved, governments have raised and fallen, tsunamis and earthquakes have happened, dynasties flourished and disappeared,how many times ALLAH came down to solve this matters?

it is better not to discuss those matters which are beyond your comprehension.



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#110

Unread post by way2go » Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:51 am

Maqbool wrote:
true_bohra wrote:What will happen when KQ gives his pleading in court of law that he was made successor in secret without any witness and evidences.. You all are wise to answer that.
But first think what will happened when the hospital episode will be proved full of lie!
And Raudat Tahera proved to be staged drama! They will then try to manipulate the authenticty of the so called Nass letter of H 1388 found mysteriously in a locked Teak cupboard in Badri Mahal. Forensic checks will prove this wrong too. Cannot imagine what face will be left of all the deceitful Shezadas and especially of Mufaddal bhaisaheb. Shame on the LIARS!



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#111

Unread post by true_bohra » Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:54 am

@human being:

In matters of trust, shehzadas are not the only ones who are beneficiaries. They will be treated as common man only.

Blood relations will play an important role when Syedna's individual property was in question but here the subject is trust property where general public is the beneficiary.



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#112

Unread post by monginis » Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:56 am

true_bohra wrote:@human being:

In matters of trust, shehzadas are not the only ones who are beneficiaries. They will be treated as common man only.

Blood relations will play an important role when Syedna's individual property was in question but here the subject is trust property where general public is the beneficiary.
this whole post is insanly hilarious :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:



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#113

Unread post by AgnosticIndian » Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:01 am

I hope all the sad as have been named co defendants in conspiracy of Nass. That will negate them being as witness I think.

Look at this video. Shouting & screaming diesel CHSNCE anything. The Zadas with fake faces & one if them being prodded from behind to do sajda. http://youtu.be/RDclbxg5YAE

All bloody fakes



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#114

Unread post by james » Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:06 am

http://www.mostbelovedson.com/uncategor ... dagi-aapi/
Ek bacha ne zindagi aapi

Huzoor Aala TUS Ujjain Sayyedna Abdulqader Najmuddin na urus par padhaara ta, Mazoon Maula bhi saathe padhaara hata. Vahaan ek mumin mukhlis na makaan par utaro hato. Je din Ujjain si vadaa thai ne nikalvanu – duphere Mazoon Maula yeh vahaan na mumin doctor Dr. Mulla Tayyeb Ali ne kai kaam vaaste yaad farmaaya ta. Je makaan ma aap nu qiyaam shareef vahaan duphere jama baad yekayek bisre maale si ehna chhota farzand chowk ma giri gaya. Ghar ma kohraam machi gayo. Ehna vaaledayn bachcha ne uchki ne Mazoon Maula na kamra ma lai aaya. Doctor vahaanj maujood hata, fauran farmaayu ke jaldi bachcha ne dekho – doctor yeh bachcha ni nabz tapaasi toh bachchu guzri chuku tu. Mazoon Maula yeh farmaayu ke ek glass ma paani lavo – paani ma shifa boli ne farmaayu ke bachcha ne aapo. Doctor ye kayu ke kai natthi [ya’ni guzri gayu chhe, pun insist kidu ke pilaayu. Bachcha nu moh kholi ne paani no ghoot halq ma utro nahi ke ehno saas chalva laagi gayo. nabz chalvaa lagi – doctor ne khud ne hairat. Te baad farmaayu toh doctor ye injection aapu, ane pachhi hospital ma lai gaya. Khuda taala yeh shifa aapi ane aaj tak yeh bachcha zinda chhe ane sehhatmand chhe.
Khuzaima discarded the doctor's fact finding. Oh dear.




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#116

Unread post by HMALAK » Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:19 am

According to me whatever, whosoever wins, the Ultimate Victim will be a Dawoodi Bohra who is paying the so called Divine Taxes. I just want that the Leader should LEAD the Community and not RULE the community. Some people say that SMS has SMB's Noor in his face, which is illogical. Give me and Air-conditioned environment, lavish food and drinks and I will also have that same Noor. According to me, there is nothing like Divinity, everywhere there is POLITICS. (Refer the Case of DAHOD MERCANTILE BANK) If the community is entrusting a leader, then he should Appreciate the society keeping in mind the Current Environment and situations, and not Depreciate the community by giving orders to Women to live at home and Do household work. Just one suggestion to both of them, Work for the community. Don't let down the Respect which the Dawoodi Bohra's have in the World. By fighting you have already let the community down. Please give up your Royalty and come between the people and hear what their problems are instead of increasing them day by day. And one Suggestion to all the Dawoodi Bohras too, Wake up Guys. I know I am too small to give a suggestion but then If person changes, the whole society can change. Believe in Religion, but do not Believe in People claiming themselves to be GOD on Earth.. Thank You.. God Bless All...



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#117

Unread post by salaar » Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:24 am

iam more concerned about the state of the poor people of our community, it is wisely said that ZAR (wealth) FASAAD KI JARR HAI how nice it would have been if all this accumulated wealth would have earlier been given in the charity and upliftment of less fortunate ones what is the point in grabbing and controling all the assets if it is all about spirituality, i assure you if this was done earlier and with no money in their pockets their would be no case or tussle between the two, i believe it is money that is the motivating factor between the two parties and nothing else



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#118

Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:32 am

Na biwi na baccha, Na baap bara na bhaiya, the whole thing is that ke bhaiya sabse bada RUPAIYA!



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#119

Unread post by salaar » Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:49 am

by the way to portray the correct picture in my place people are going on with their normal activity nobody knows abt any case that is going on and nobody is bothered about its judgement, they only know one thing HAR ZAMAN MA FITNAT TOU THAYA KARAY i tell you one thing even if the decision is against the dawat that will not cast any dent on its reputation, people are busy with darees and other community affairs and only when i come on this forum i find a different world, people with different thoughts otherwise there are no signs of even a mild storm.



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#120

Unread post by DB- MUMBAIKAR » Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:44 am

HMALAK wrote:According to me whatever, whosoever wins, the Ultimate Victim will be a Dawoodi Bohra who is paying the so called Divine Taxes. I just want that the Leader should LEAD the Community and not RULE the community. Some people say that SMS has SMB's Noor in his face, which is illogical. Give me and Air-conditioned environment, lavish food and drinks and I will also have that same Noor. According to me, there is nothing like Divinity, everywhere there is POLITICS. (Refer the Case of DAHOD MERCANTILE BANK) If the community is entrusting a leader, then he should Appreciate the society keeping in mind the Current Environment and situations, and not Depreciate the community by giving orders to Women to live at home and Do household work. Just one suggestion to both of them, Work for the community. Don't let down the Respect which the Dawoodi Bohra's have in the World. By fighting you have already let the community down. Please give up your Royalty and come between the people and hear what their problems are instead of increasing them day by day. And one Suggestion to all the Dawoodi Bohras too, Wake up Guys. I know I am too small to give a suggestion but then If person changes, the whole society can change. Believe in Religion, but do not Believe in People claiming themselves to be GOD on Earth.. Thank You.. God Bless All...
bravo... very well said...