Is Qaid Johar bhaisab in hospital

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rational_guy
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Is Qaid Johar bhaisab in hospital

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Unread post by rational_guy » Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:21 am

Heard that he is admitted in a london hospital. Can some Londoner confirm this. furthermore heard he was working for long hours in the london masjid dealing with some tax issue.

saw this whatsapp message floating around "Where is Qaid Johar bhaisaheb. A case has been filed in Bombay high court and he is sitting in London. The first important hearing happened today and he was not at the side of Mufadal Mola."

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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:33 pm

Yeh kaisi duwida hain, paisa hain par sukh nahee hain, Satta hain lekin Khandan nahee hain, Allah (SWT) insaan ki karmo ki sazaa is duniya mein hee data hain aur SMB(RA) ke shezadey iska chalta firta nateeja hain.
Aaj Muffadal Saab lakhon ki nazar mein Dai hain lekin us rutbey ki koi taqat hi nahee hain jaise SMB(RA) ki tih unke zamaan mein. Unka andaaz unki awaaz unka ilm aur unki shafaqat. Muffadal Saab kabhi apni chabi nahee bana paegay, woh dai zaroor khelaengay lekin asliyat toh logo ke dil mein unko hamesha kamzor nazar aaegay. hamesha ek dawedari ki pehlu se log dekhengay aur Mufaddal saab har kadaam unko phoonkh phoonkh ke chalne padengay kyunke ek galti unka galat hone ka dawa kar sakti hain.

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Re: Is Qaid Johar bhaisab in hospital

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Unread post by trvoice » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:11 pm

I think a lot of people involved in the case are gonna be in bad health pretty soon.

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Unread post by Kaka Akela » Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:33 pm

How can he be sick and in hospital??
He is gone underground and travelling very quietly to various jamiats to look into Dawat properties and accounts without making any noise or requiring any pomp.
Latest news from London is that he is or will be going to Los Angeles, CA shortly to consult lawyers there and to make sure everything is well-protected as he did in London.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:29 pm

rational_guy wrote:Heard that he is admitted in a london hospital.

He must have got himself admitted in the same hospital where all the Nass drama took place so that he gets more time to destroy/manipulate documents and records which could expose his brother's claim !!

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Unread post by zinger » Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:42 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:
rational_guy wrote:Heard that he is admitted in a london hospital.

He must have got himself admitted in the same hospital where all the Nass drama took place so that he gets more time to destroy/manipulate documents and records which could expose his brother's claim !!
that is one awesome conspiracy theory bro :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Unread post by humanbeing » Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:11 am

It doesn’t look like a conspiracy theory ! under the given circumstances, getting oneself admitted in the London Hospital, if it is same as that where SMB was admitted, smells Fishy !

Why don’t QJ Bhaisaab get treated in Saifee Hospital ??

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Unread post by murtaza2152 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:39 am

humng wrote:It doesn’t look like a conspiracy theory ! under the given circumstances, getting oneself admitted in the London Hospital, if it is same as that where SMB was admitted, smells Fishy !

Why don’t QJ Bhaisaab get treated in Saifee Hospital ??
Lol :mrgreen:
I pity you people,Someone only says asks the question Where is QJ BS is he in hosp ,many revelations come from thier own state of mind and these bunch believe also and above that give thier own theory. See this with your own eyes how u have become in moulas hatred.

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Unread post by zinger » Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:53 am

murtaza2152 wrote:
humng wrote:It doesn’t look like a conspiracy theory ! under the given circumstances, getting oneself admitted in the London Hospital, if it is same as that where SMB was admitted, smells Fishy !

Why don’t QJ Bhaisaab get treated in Saifee Hospital ??
Lol :mrgreen:
I pity you people,Someone only says asks the question Where is QJ BS is he in hosp ,many revelations come from thier own state of mind and these bunch believe also and above that give thier own theory. See this with your own eyes how u have become in moulas hatred.

haa haa haa... ya man, like London has only ONE hospital and Qaid Johar BS was admitted to that ONE hospital only, to DESTROY the evidence.

Seriously guys... you gotta do better :lol: :lol:

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Unread post by true_bohra » Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:24 am

reformist have been smelling everything fishy since a long long time.

guys this is the limit. you call yourself educated and yet you give out such examples of lameness.

If qaid johar bs wants to destroy any evidence then wats the point in getting hospitalised. Dont be so MELODRAMATIC

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Unread post by humanbeing » Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:37 am

Aww !! So innocent !! QJ bhaisaab could just walk in and tamper the evidence ! why would he get admitted ? well by being admitted he can get in good rapport with medical staff and create a new make-believe drama ! with some new witnesses !

No one can defeat Kothari Inc in promoting lameness to reality !! lets wait and watch ! how the drama unfolds !!

Lets find out which hospital was SMB admitted and which one is QJ bhaisaab admitted ?

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Unread post by zinger » Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:02 am

Baap re HB you are a laugh riot my friend... seriously :lol:

so you are proposing that QJ BS will actually charm the pants of the people in the hospital and they will hence fabricate records... haa haa haa... bro that is rich :lol:

tell you what, wouldnt it be simpler for him to just bribe them outright? why do all this naatak yaar?

Come on pal, you're smarter than that buddy

wait, ive got a better idea, why not just buy out the darn hospital? they have enough money dont they? or even better, why not burn it to the ground? then they can claim that the records were there but it got destroyed in the fire.

wait a minute..... ooops, forgot this site is monitored by kothar inc. looks like i just gave them some ideas... damn :mrgreen:

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Unread post by Bori85 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:57 pm

Kaka Akela wrote:How can he be sick and in hospital??
He is gone underground and travelling very quietly to various jamiats to look into Dawat properties and accounts without making any noise or requiring any pomp.
Latest news from London is that he is or will be going to Los Angeles, CA shortly to consult lawyers there and to make sure everything is well-protected as he did in London.
if that is the case then SKQ lawyer's should have thought about this too, they should ask the court to put a stay order or something similar in legal terms, to avoid the Kothar and Shehzada's from taking any money from any jamaat of Dawoodi Bohra's around the world.

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Unread post by Maqbool » Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:16 am

zinger wrote:
ghulam muhammed wrote:
He must have got himself admitted in the same hospital where all the Nass drama took place so that he gets more time to destroy/manipulate documents and records which could expose his brother's claim !!
that is one awesome conspiracy theory bro :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
The nuss episode at London was a great conspiracy. Ek juth ke piche 10 juth bolne padte hai.

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Unread post by true_bohra » Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:34 am

I am not in mood to explain the london nass thing..better visit www.believesyendaqutbuddin.com and read for yourself.

Hope you would agree to it if you all call yourself educated enough.

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Unread post by Maqbool » Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:00 am

true_bohra wrote:I am not in mood to explain the london nass thing..better visit www.believesyendaqutbuddin.com and read for yourself.

Hope you would agree to it if you all call yourself educated enough.
I have gone thru it, there more emphasis on faith but not on logic. It will be good reading for those who does not use their head, but this will not stand in the court of law.

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Unread post by true_bohra » Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:24 am

any one who uses his head will surely accept the fact that sherbet ni rasam does not mean gulping whole glass of sherbet. As stated it may be a tiny drop.

Forget about london. Did you hear what did Syedna RA say in raudat tahera. Video is there...do watch it.

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Unread post by true_bohra » Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:32 am

and even I know what things stand in court of law. So I better read it first and then reply.

Can you tell me that will a judge accept a fact that he was made dai without any witness.

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Unread post by JC » Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:52 am

Adalat has to say .............. QJ JAWAB DO ................ HISAAB DO ................ :roll:

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Unread post by true_bohra » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:30 am

no i think it would first say KQ jawab do......agarkoi bhi witness ho usey pehle awaaz do...

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Unread post by adna_mumin » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:46 am

Well, the burden of proof would be on the one making the allegation or claim. And each side would claim the other is the one making the allegation. So the judge would have to be wise to see through and ask both to present their own case as to why they believe what they do...

There is the Alamat shareefa that Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA inayat to Syedna Qutbuddin tus which may be a good start. What do the Shz Mufaddal BS have that is equally or more 'roshan daleel' written, established and public? The London witnesses could be called to examine that episode, Dr Moiz called to explain Raudat Tahera interpretation and so on...

There are probably new revelations that are sure to come out as this progresses.

And mumineen must not be fanatic and blind and carefully listen at this time. Just pray that this gets resolved and decided soon with each side getting enough opportunity to make their case!

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Unread post by true_bohra » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:22 pm

OMG...you are a thorough legal expert. But with people's testimonials, it is not that difficult for court to suspect who is claimant.

Now as far as Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA alamat shaifa is concerned, letme discuss few points with you.
- Written alamat sharifa of name AALIQADAR MUFADDAL which corresponds to the year in which he was born. No other person has received this special status except for Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA and Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS
- Syedna conferring title of aqeeq al yemen similar to the title of Mansur al yemen
- When Syedna RA was ill some years back...much before thw nass of london, he allowed Syedna Mufaddal to preside in waaz majlis in same manner when syedna Taher Saifuddin gave raza to muqaddas maula to perform waaz during his illness. Why KQ was not given chance.
-Syedna RA use to give raza of taking misaaq to aaliqadar maula wherever he use to vist.

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Unread post by Mazakyo » Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:56 pm

true_bohra wrote:OMG...you are a thorough legal expert. But with people's testimonials, it is not that difficult for court to suspect who is claimant.

Now as far as Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA alamat shaifa is concerned, letme discuss few points with you.
- Written alamat sharifa of name AALIQADAR MUFADDAL which corresponds to the year in which he was born. No other person has received this special status except for Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA and Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS
- Syedna conferring title of aqeeq al yemen similar to the title of Mansur al yemen
- When Syedna RA was ill some years back...much before thw nass of london, he allowed Syedna Mufaddal to preside in waaz majlis in same manner when syedna Taher Saifuddin gave raza to muqaddas maula to perform waaz during his illness. Why KQ was not given chance.
-Syedna RA use to give raza of taking misaaq to aaliqadar maula wherever he use to vist.

Yaar SKQ ko bhi tu alaamat de thi jo aik Surah ki Ayat # 53 thi. Aab bolo bachchuu ??? Yeh number game hamarey yahan bauhat purani aadat hai. Jo cheez jorni ho number mela lete hain.

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Unread post by abde53 » Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:10 pm

true_bohra wrote:and even I know what things stand in court of law. So I better read it first and then reply.

Can you tell me that will a judge accept a fact that he was made dai without any witness.
Bhai True Bohra
But Imam appoints Dai so how does anyone bring the witness since the Imam is in Purdah?

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Unread post by monginis » Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:40 pm

QJ is another target of MS just like Huzaifa Bhai sahab?

one by one mufaddal bhai sahab wants to eliminate all his brothers?

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Unread post by think » Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:18 pm

how can muffy recite any waez. Listen to some of his majalis and you will know. gGve him advice, that instead of bricks of khake shifa put aircondition in his fathers grave and i bet you he will say that is a good idea.

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Unread post by zahir » Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:24 pm

u munafeqins r busy following matters that r of no use to u all.shz saheb is in hospital or not?why u people r bothered.?saare jahaa ka gam hamare jigar me he.

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Unread post by seeker110 » Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:33 pm

Engine driving the justice system is money. Good conscious have hardly a place in the courts. Only the followers loose regardless of the outcome of any case.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:58 pm

Shz Dr. Qaidjohar Bhaisaheb Ezzuddin Saheb DM did Iftetah of Dawat-e-Hadiyah (America) Office in Los Angeles

12th Jumadil Aakhar, 1435

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