The state of Bohras today

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Sufi monk
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little change in people is coming through

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Unread post by Sufi monk » Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:29 am

Bismillah...

people are now refusing to stand up for special 2 rakat for muffy, people are least bother about attending every little majlis and useless kothari programs, number of people in jumuaa namaaz is increasing, people are refusing to pay for any idiotic scheme initiated by muffy, amil is getting direct answers on his face.

based on my recent experience in Mumbai,Gujarat, and Bangalore.

Sufi monk
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Degradation of Bhoras to pitiful level

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Unread post by Sufi monk » Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:50 am

Bismillah....

when you will see this you wont believe it...received on whats up.

I want every one to comment on this.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/0tzko7wbvxm0h ... WA0006.mp4

silvertongue
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Re: Degradation of Bhoras to pitiful level

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Unread post by silvertongue » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:18 am

if the leader can be seen twerking with Yemenis then i wouldnt be surprised to see this.. Although I was shocked at first. But frankly nowadays if we even show this to any Muffi bohri either he would blame the SKQ Bohris or PDBs. They wouldnt agree that Muffi Bohris can do that as well. So it makes it kind of useless. But no doubt that the Bohra world is changing to something which Allah doesn't agree on. Thats for sure.

fustrate_Bohra
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Re: Degradation of Bhoras to pitiful level

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Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:39 am

Sufi monk wrote:Bismillah....

when you will see this you wont believe it...received on whats up.

I want every one to comment on this.
It's really UNBELIEVABLE, even after seeing this i think its fake.

These r idiots/jaheels who brings our community to SHAME.

think
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hypocrisy at its utmost.

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Unread post by think » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:43 am

one bohri bahaisaheb in small town Pakistan has conveniently told mumineens that they are sunni's since they follow the sunnat of rasul illah.

Kaka Akela
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Re: hypocrisy at its utmost.

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Unread post by Kaka Akela » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:56 pm

This is not something new that he is saying. These same exact words were quoted in the court of Aurangzeb by Syedna Qutubuddin Shaheed just before his shahadat according to the Nasihat of syedi Sadiq ali Saheb

think
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Re: hypocrisy at its utmost.

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Unread post by think » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:04 pm

call a spade a spade. do not play with words. The whole world knows that bohris are a sect of shia islam. And this bohri shia kothar goes overboard in doing matam at the flip of a coin. I have been to places where the bhaisaheb or zada could not speak so the best outlet for him was to get his goons to say marsia and do matam. Such hypocritical practises should be stopped.

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Re: hypocrisy at its utmost.

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Unread post by Rebel » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:40 pm

think wrote:one bohri bahaisaheb in small town Pakistan has conveniently told mumineens that they are sunni's since they follow the sunnat of rasul illah.
What's the name of this Charlie Chaplin? Where is his amalat?

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Re: hypocrisy at its utmost.

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Unread post by Haqparast » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:02 am

think wrote:one bohri bahaisaheb in small town Pakistan has conveniently told mumineens that they are sunni's since they follow the sunnat of rasul illah.
this is absolutely correct what wrong u see here?

silvertongue
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Re: The state of Bohras today

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Unread post by silvertongue » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:29 am

If sunnis means following the Sunnah of Prophet Mohammed p.b.u.h then the whole MUSLIM world is sunni inlcuding Bohras and Shias. And Shias are those who follow Maula Ali a.s. after the demise of Prophet Mohammed p.b.u.h. Hence Bohras as as much sunnis as they are shias.

If sunni means following the Sunnah then Ali a.s is the greatest Sunni, and if Shia means loving Ali a.s. then Prophet Mohammed p.b.u.h is the greatest SHIA..

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Re: The state of Bohras today

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Unread post by zinger » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:46 am

silvertongue wrote:If sunnis means following the Sunnah of Prophet Mohammed p.b.u.h then the whole MUSLIM world is sunni inlcuding Bohras and Shias. And Shias are those who follow Maula Ali a.s. after the demise of Prophet Mohammed p.b.u.h. Hence Bohras as as much sunnis as they are shias.

If sunni means following the Sunnah then Ali a.s is the greatest Sunni, and if Shia means loving Ali a.s. then Prophet Mohammed p.b.u.h is the greatest SHIA..
Beautifully said!

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Re: The state of Bohras today

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Unread post by qutbudin » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:54 am

Ofcourse all of them are the greatest Muslims who follow the sunnah. The problem with our shia is that they only claim to follow and ONLY IDOLIZE Islamic personalities , a concept which these personalities came to destroy. Dont think an Idol just to be a statue\grave it can also be blind love and worship of created objects\events \actors.

I seldom see any bohra regular in salat, speak against Shirk or Bidah even if worst forms of it are being displayed in from of them.

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Re: The state of Bohras today

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Unread post by silvertongue » Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:34 am

My dear friend, i will tell you the biggest difference between SHIRK and Tauheed. Just ask a diehard follower of Ali a.s. or a Shia that when you do Sajda in Namaz, whom do you bow and worship. You will get your answer. Definitely he will say Allah swt coz he is the follower of Ali a.s and you very well know how Ali a.s. used to worship Allah swt day and night. Needless to say anything now. But clear this, if anyone does Sajda in Namaz besides thinking of Allah swt THATS shirk. Case closed. :-)

Haqparast
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Re: The state of Bohras today

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Unread post by Haqparast » Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:47 am

STATE OF BOHRA REMINDS ME THIS SCENE OF 300 MOVIE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diPfNUaUU4M

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Re: The state of Bohras today

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Unread post by qutbudin » Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:40 am

@silvertonge:

One act of Shirk is enough to make one a Mushrik. Bohras may pray salah , in the deepest of their hearts while they do sajda they do it to Allah alone AGREED. But Shirk starts after namaz when they bow to daeee, say "ya ali maddd" etc.

You cant judge just on one act of salat, if a person makes a single act of shirk and defends it then he becomes a Mushrik irrespective of whether he prays to Allah . Infact the meccan pagans did pray to Allah and Kaba was called baitullah even by them, the problem was that they prayed to Allah as well as some pious saints of their time.
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Haqparast
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Re: The state of Bohras today

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Unread post by Haqparast » Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:43 am

qutbudin wrote:@silvertonge:

One act of Shirk is enough to make one a Mushrik. Bohras may pray salah , in the deepest of their hearts while they do sajda they do it to Allah alone AGREED. But Shirk starts after namaz when they bow to daeee, say "ya ali maddd" etc.

You cant judge just on one act of salat, if a person makes a single act of shirk then he becomes a Mushrik irrespective of whether he prays to Allah . Infact the meccan pagans did pray to Allah and Kaba was called baitullah even by them, the problem was that they prayed to Allah as well as some pious saints of their time.
when a person starts thinking like you he becomes animals from a human.

your AQL has been banished by satan by brainwashing.

qutbudin
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Re: The state of Bohras today

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Unread post by qutbudin » Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:34 am

Bro its a common fact that pagans worshipped Allah, they even loved Allah,the problem was always not worshipping Allah ALONE .

Exclusivity of Worshipping Allah alone is the very core basis of Islam. One who denies this denies Islam

Dua is worship
Ya A**** madad is dua to A*****
hence an instance of Shirk.

The satan wants to delude people in Shirk only as this is the only sin which guarentees hellfire if not done tauba.

Hence I would be with people who strongly condemn it and take all possible actions to save humanity from Shirk.

Saeed al Khair
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Re: Bohras-Worst Mushrik, Nastiest then Qadianies

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Unread post by Saeed al Khair » Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:47 pm

Can someone please edit this text ? I wish to send it to islamic institutions worldwide to expose the ugly face of Mufaddali Dawoodi Bohra Clergy


To
The Ulema, Intellectuals, Human Right Activists and Journalists

Sub: Dawoodi Bohras-Worst then Mushrik, Nastiest then Qadianies

For at least last 50 years, following blatant and sacrilegious acts have been imposed on and practiced by Dawoodi Bohra Clergy - not necessarily in any order:

1. Salwaat, which up till now recited on the prophet and his Ahl ul Bait are being recited on Tahir Saifuddin and Muhammed Burhanuddin. Kufr & Zulm

2. Two Rakaat Salaat, which is not offered even for Nabi, Imams and Ahl al Bait is now being prayed for Tahir Saifuddin, Muhammed Burhanuddin and Mufaddal Shai**nuddin

3. Matam on the Zikr of Tahir Saifuddin and Muhammed Burhanuddin.

4. Compulsory dress code of Saya for all Bohra males, to degrade the dress of Ulema. Compulsory colorful Surti Rida for all Bohra females. Promotion of the Surti culture.

5. Darees, coined for earning of mullas, by devil brain, Dr. Yusuf Najmuddin, the champion rascal and master mind Amir of Jamiatus Safiya. Continual source of income

6. Numerous mandatory Taxes. In past there was merely the nominal and almost voluntary Sabil and Sila Fitra, while at present ikram fund(for the luxury of so called Haramzada Royal Family), Haj fund (an imposed Bidat, introduced for the enjoyment of Mullas on the name of Haj), Establishment Fund(it is a pure Gunda tax, for the utilization of Aamil and his associates). The Dai said: "Khuda Wajebaat Ada Karnar Nay Ghanu Apay ....Ek Na Sitter (70) Apay ...Ek Na Hazar Apay Ghani Anay Ghani Barakat Apay..." I have heard this phrase many times from beggars. Except they do not use word 'Wajebaat'. Sydena (May Allah Guide him to Straight Path and forgive his habit of committing Shirk) is a high class Beggar. He grants Dua usually Tamay Ek Paisa Apsu Tu Khuda Lakh Apsay. Exploitation of Priest.

7. Issuance of dreaded E-Jamat identity cards like the government. Full Exploitation

8. ‘Al Vazaratus Saifya’, Bohra Administrative despotic rule by appointments of the paid local criminals, rather than the honorary local office bearers. Postings of the Qasre Aali/Baite Zaani, the Haraam Royal Family (Rescale family of the Dai) as Aamils and managing executives to the choicest Jamats around the world, rather than qualified. Treat the bastards Royal Family as superior blood lineage. Lavish and luxurious lifestyle of the so-called She-zadas and She-zadis on the hard earnings of the poor community members. Lifestyle of Muawiya and Yazid

9. Waqaf - Every Masjid, Markaz, hospital, musafirkhana or Jamat properties are on the name of Royal Satan Family Members. Renovation of all the Masjids and institutions round the year is a part of business. Demolishing of the good condition Masjids and other Heritage Buildings (just to remove the name plate of its builder) and re-building new structures with the name of the Holy Father Muhammed Burhanuddin or his puppy. Even UNESCO has condemned this ill practice by the Dawoodi Bohra clergy. Permanent Gold Mines

10. Imposed Lisane-Dawat: an adulterated Gujrati, and hate to talk in Urdu. Dawoodi Bohra clergy condemned Urdu speaking class and force them to talk in Gujrati. Policy of Lord Micaville

11. Name changing- 11 Haram She-zadas can change any child's or adult’s name (especially those names which are sound common Muslim to typical type name ,like Bharmal, Tarmal, Jiwanji, Jew, Ratan, without consulting the person or their parents at his own will. Method to rule over the fools

12. Impose compulsory permission of “Raza” from the clergy (Permission of Mulla) for everything that you do in your personal life, just to pocket the money. Even for sexual intercourse with wife, blind followers obtain the permission from Dai, She-zada/Aamil, as a token of sacred blessings/Barkat. Perpetual source of earning

13. Round the year get to gather with different names, to make busy the fools’ members of the community. Controlling policy

14. So called infallibility of the Dai. Tahir Saifuddin's claim that for all practical purposes the Dai is God on earth. See for References: Chanda Bhai Gulla Case, Burhanpur Dargah Case, reported by A.I.L.R. Shirk

15. Persuade people by several manners for Lavish Ziafat and huge Salam for Dai and his puppies, not in millions but in billions. Perpetual source of income

16. Waqaf - Every Masjid, Markaz, hospital, musafirkhana or Jamat properties are on the name of Royal Satan Family Members. Perpetual source of income

17. Minting money by selling Tabarrukat(pieces of stones, wood, Burhanuddin’s grave cover pieces to weak-faith people all over the world. Perpetual business

18.Religious feasts arranged by individuals or by collection, but Amil has to chant that "Syedna Na Ghar Nu Sau Izzan Chey" all people are invited on behalf of Syedna. Lavish feast – Run around the world to collect the money. Feast festivals on every occasion – at least 4 saltiest dishes and 4 sweet dishes, as it is the order of the Dai to do Fakhir feast. Zikre Husain on Dastar Khawn e Muawiyah, Rule over the Fools

19. Slave making custom of Misaq taken when one is not mature mentally. See some points:
If a person taking the oath breaks it, all his possessions, i.e. moveable, cash, housing, utensils, jewels, ornaments, carriages, horses, cattle, milking cows, she buffaloes, slaves- males and females and all worldly materials become unlawful for him. All his property is liable to be confiscated (and to be distributed among the members of the Royal Family /Baite Zaani, the sacred fuckers). When he takes the oath again and accepts all the terms of that covenant then his things become lawful to him and then only he is entitled to get his things back...say yes.

All the benefits which he had already enjoyed (from his possessions) becomes unlawful i.e. with a prospective effect unless he takes the oath afresh (the past enjoyments) do not become lawful. Say yes. All the slaves- males and females of the breaker of the oath become free and the defaulter loses all ownership over them until a fresh oath and he keeps faith with the covenant...say yes.

And if the breaker of the covenant has a wife that wife becomes forbidden to him. The breach of covenant has the effect of three divorces against the wife, irrevocable. The woman can never marry him again; neither can he take her as a wife. Say yes. If the breaker of the oath performs Haj thirty times with naked feet even then God shall not forgive him his sin (in breaking the covenant) nor shall God accept his Haj. But if he takes the oath again by the true Dai’s covenant, his master, then and then alone God shall accept his Haj, his prayers, fasts and other good deeds. ... Say yes.

And the breaker of the covenant accursed of God by that curse which was inflicted on Iblis, the Satan the effect of which was that paradise was lost to Satan and hell became his inheritance.

And the breaker of the covenant shall face God as Kafir and apostate after death. He is beyond redemption by the power of God. He will be thrown on his own soul and shall curse him and shall extend hell to him which hell is the worst of all places. There is no God but the Merciful and Benevolent. The Defaulter turns away his face from the worship of God and turns it to the worship of idols. All Kafirs worship idols and thus shall become attached to the idol and the grace of God shall destroy the breaker of the oath with rapidity and shall confine him to hell in which there is nothing but torture...say yes.” In past it was never intended to be binding for all time by Misaq. Why is the Kothar and their agents forbidding the public to use the translation, is it because they are trying to hide something? During the Misaq ceremony one is shown a piece of paper and you have to sign it, of course no time given to read it and one is not to ask any questions. Why? What are they hiding? You only hide something you done

20. Several innovation occurred in past 50 years among Bohras, which are more than Shirk.
Discrimination and isolation - towards another Muslim community – non Bohra cannot even step to Bohra Markaz or Masjid. Promotion of Sectarian Hatred

21. Families with girls are abiding with all rules and regulations, since they are worried about the girls and would like to get them married only to Bohra boys. For the sake of the girls they have to bear all the torture of the clergy. I say some of them, Allah is your protector. Even if the girl is married in a non Bohra family (like it is in so many cases around the world) as long as the girl is happy that should be your concern. A Bohra boy does not necessary mean a good boy. Our Prophet married Abubaker’s daughter Aysha and Umar’s daughter Hafsa,Umme habiba-sister of Muawiyah. Follow his Sunnat. Do not bear the atrocities of the clergy because you are afraid for daughter’s future. Trust Allah and if He has bestowed you a daughter then He will provide her companion. Have the faith in Allah not in the Mulla Dalla .Exploitation

22. Dai Mufaddal Shaitanuddin force to send Lanat on Umar, Abubakar and Usman. Promotion of Sectarian Hatred, lead to riots.

23. Female Genital Mutilation (FGM). In Bohra hospitals, clinics and set up this heinous crime has been practice. Every community girl is forced to remove her upper vagina portion. This crime has been done under top secrecy. Violation of Women Rights/Sexual Crimes

24.Wadhana/Arti has great importance in all ceremonies. Kurnish/Qadambosi,Namastey style of Salaam with folded two hands, in front of even a petty Mulla. Hindu Tradition.

25. Interference of Aamil/mulla in all personal matters of community member is routine. Prsecution among families. Exploitation by ghunda force of the “Burhani Guards”. Ghunda Raj

26. Installed Galla-treasury boxes in every Mazars in India and Yemen to pocket the billions of rupees for the higher clergy. Perpetual source of income. Spent millions of dollars in Ruzat Tahira, Bhindi Bazar. Destroy hard earned money of the community unnecessary. Self glorification of the holy father by the holy son

27. Properties and investments of Qasre Aali/Baite Zaani in abroad. The holy father and his thug family are vacationing in West and enjoying earning fat bucks, private jet riding, money making Ziyafats, sightseeing and the list can go on and on. For the past several years Holy Family(Dai’s Family) have invaded the Western World, Africa, Middle East and Far East for the obvious reason - to make easy money in these rich countries and same time they can get away from the legal problems and lawsuits etc. that have plagued them for many years in their native country of India. Exploitation and Corruption

28. Holy Father-Syedna has declared forbidden to read Quran's translation in English,urdu,Gujrati or any other language. Exploitation

29. Holy Father, Syedna sale the title of Shiekh to increase his wealth and control to lose character, notorious drunkard, rapist and so on. Any criminal, third grade person can get honour in Bohra Jamaat from the Dai to pay his demanded amount, which is 20 lakh to One carore Rs to get the position of Sheikh. Some 100 years ago this position was given to the Aalim and Muttaqi person only, without money. Today if “Hijra” pay the amount, Mufaddal grant him position of Sheikh. Degradation of the Ulama /literates

30. The team of Dai and his international Mafia are remaining busy in brain-washing the Bohra community for their own malicious interests. Exploitation and Corruption

31. Around the world, Bohra Clergy is collecting substantial amounts of money from their followers through various funds with new tactics. This exploitation of the public hard earnings is not for community welfare but it’s for Dai’s family. If they utilized public funds for community’s education, research, hospitals, or the creation of new jobs for everybody (not just for the select few) than it would make much more sense. Syedna and his punters are imposing unnecessary rules and regulations. They are mimicking a dictatorship type system in this 21st century. In turn, followers cannot ever question the accountability of monies collected and address any issues or suggestions without being ex-communicated from the Jamat. Exploitation and Corruption


32. At every event and after each Salaat in Masjid the Pesh Imam force to do Matam. This is wrong because Matam should only be set aside for the month of Moharram only. The Mullas do not have to preach much and spend the majority of the time sitting on a cushioned chair watching everybody else doing Matam. After hours of exhaustion, the Mullas are ready to fatten their pockets. If you haven't noticed, the Mullas are insisting that Sayedna should come to your city for Waaz in Moharram. This is another scheme to get your hard earned "mighty" finance. The Holy Shaitan Family is more eager to collect dollars than any other currency because his wealth can be increased at a much faster rate. Why should our money go to an investment without any return? In light of the above statements something must be done to change the corrupt system implemented by the Sayedna. We must all unite together and struggle for a major change against these "Blood Suckers" and save our community from their evil tactics. Why our community is centered so strongly around one goal- the collection of money? Insult of Matam and promote Phobia

33. Bohras are not part of Ummah at all. They are cult that uses the principles of Islam to make money. They quote Ali and Husain in their lectures and do Matam without any knowledge of the true meaning behind their actions. The Team of Shezadas and Mufaddal profits heavily on the name of Imam Husain. Did past Imams and dais make a business out of Islamic teachings and values? Insult of Matam and spread Phobia. Exploitation on the name of Husain

34. Corruption in the Bohra community has been prevalent for more than 60 years. It all began when late Dai Tahir Saifuddin was instilled with power. Once in power the atrocities gradually became the mainstream of our society. Mufadal Saifudin began to exploit the public by imposing ridiculous Fatwas, the Un-Islamic Misaq, attaining property from the public and transferring the title of the private property to his name, money making Ziyafats, exonerating people upon receiving huge sums of money, increasing the status of an individual with financial payments, or heavy taxation (Sabeel, Khumus). When Burhanuddin’s son Mufaddal became the so-called “Moula” he followed the footsteps of his father and increased the corruption to staggering “levels”. Mufaddal started the “dreaded” collection of money for every step of one’s personal life, name changing, and running to see him wherever he is during Moharram. Mufaddal Saifuddin is the sole person responsible for the development and implementation of his corrupt practices. The local Aamils, Bhaisahebs, and etc implement the orders dictated by Mufaddal. From every Bohra Jamaat (round the world) CEO of Mufaddal wants to see profits trickle into their massive bank accounts. Therefore, to ensure a constant flow of cash Dai puts Aamils, Sheiks, etc to manage the operation. Remember, they report to children of Mufaddal and inform of operations. This is simply a business of Mufaddal which he has created and enjoys reaping the profits. Islam never explicitly or implicitly mentions that it is acceptable for one to create a business in the name of Islam. If you don’t agree with the truth mentioned above then you are practicing the wrong religion. Ruling by international Mafia Net work

35. The Dai announce to grant the Qarzan Hasana fund is money collected from large amounts of contributions in the form Bhatta beside Salam, Zakat, and other imposed taxes the Kothar receives everyday from mindless Bohras. First of all, to even be eligible for money from Qarzan Hasana you have to be the “fanatic follower” of the Jamaat. Basically you have to lick their ass till your tongue turns brown. After struggling to get acknowledgment and awareness from the clergy that you are in the need of money a huge salaam will be required from the borrower. The salaam is similar to paying interest on a loan because it's money that you literally throw away in order to participate in a loan. And to make matters worse, you have to give them a substantial amount of collateral. Unwillingly, the priest class will assume that your collateral is a gift and your likelihood of receiving it back is slim to none. Finally, when your hopes begin to rise they will immediately sink down when they issue you funds for an insignificant amount. For people expecting 400,000 to 500,000 (the usual amount needed to start a small business nowadays), forget it. You’ll be lucky to receive even 20,000.What we object to is the non-accountability of these "Baitulmaal". One simple question: How does the Bohra Clergy maintain or sustain their lavish lifestyles around the world and world-wide travels. You may say that they are entitled to a stipend for serving the community. If they are entitled to such exorbitant stipends, how about the real Mullah and Sheikhs (graduates of the Jameia) who serve the flock throughout the world - I may add in the rural communities as opposed to the Bhaisahebs and She-zadas who "serve" in the urban and international cities. I recently went around India for Ziyarats and I saw with my own eyes how the real Mullas and Sheikhs live pathetically and poorly and serve the community in or around the villages and towns - especially looking after some Mazaars. You offer them a token salaam and they a thank you profusely and with such heartfelt gratification and Dua. Compare this to the Zaani Bhaisahebs and Harami She-zadas. They will demand hefty Salams even before they provide funeral service and then treat you like dirt - even with curses!! By the way, can you elaborate on "Allah keeps me from wrath for asking you to perform your Salaat.” Exploitation and Corruption

36. Mufaddal stresses to their "slaves" that it is forbidden to collect interest (Riba) by putting your money in an account that earns a financial reward. Well, I would like to know if Mufaddal Saifuddin “practices what he preaches” in regards to his personal finances? Where does he keep the billions of Dollars he has accumulated in the past several decades? Does he store his commodities in the form of cash in his palace or in Swiss Bank accounts earning high rates of interest and in addition, protection from the I.R.S.? Think about it for a minute. With the amount of financial resources at the fingertips of Mufaddal one can wonder about the broad range of investment opportunities available to him. I can undeniably imagine that banks come forward to Syedna begging him to store his enormous wealth in their accounts. Exploitation and Corruption

37. Majority of Bohra women are highly emotional and uneducated and, therefore, are prone to manipulation by Mulla. As a matter of fact because of these fanatic Bohra women, Mufaddal’s Business is booming at very staggering level. Also, mostly men in the Bohra community are very puny and act like sissies in front of Mufaddal and his family. They need to resist Khotar and must do concrete effort for the change. In order to combat the big "Lucifer" and his cabinet, there is no need to live in fear or intimidated by "thug" Shaitanuddin and Company. Ignorance of Bohra Community

38. Typical Bohra Wedding Card written in "Dawat Nee Zabaan" for Bohra slaves imposed by "Burhani Mafia" - It's so funny and it symbolizes Mufaddal Saifuddin as an idol or God that is in need of worship! The wedding cards 5 to 10 years ago were not written to praise Dai like a god. This card is so senseless and made even worse because it is written in "dumb" Gujrati, so called Dawat Nee Zaban. How dumb can the Bohras get by adopting this trash and forgetting the supremacy of Allah? Here it goes: “Syedna Duae Mustajab See Makhsus Chey. Har Majlis Mashhad Ma Dua Na Motiyo Nisar Farmavey Chey. Ye Dua Par Malaikat Amin Boley Chey. Khasatan Ehna Mazahir Zikra Na Khutba Ma Nazar Aaya, Ye Dua Ni Barakat Pehriyo lagan baki rehsay. Haqiqi nemat Hudat- kiraam chey. Ye Hudat Karaam ni zikar haqiqat ma Khuda ni zikar chey. Ye nemato ni zikar har haal ma wajib chey. Ye zikar shukar adaa karwa no bhalo zariya chey. Ehny hurmat si hamari daughter/son---- nee Shadee naseeb thaee chay. Ahma shareek thawa nu aap nay izan araz kariyay chay---Tey kabul farmavi libasul Anwar ma tashrif laavi mamnun kariye--- Every invitation cards/letter have to mentioned Mufaddal Saifuddin’s name and at the end one has to be mentioned as "Abde Syedna" and "Amte Syedna". Shirk---Ghunda Mafia Rule by force of Danda

39. Ashra of Moharram - its festival of joy for Mufaddal and his mafia Kothar - They run around all over the world to make the most money -Where is Mufaddal going to be this year? How insane can a 93 year old person be? He is still meandering all over the world to make fat bucks in the name of Imam Hussain. I know that the fanatical Bohris are willing to scurry about the Earth this Mohrarram in search of Mufaddal. No Muslim leader anywhere in the world makes such vulgar show of his personality as Mufaddal does, by stopping Waiz everywhere and compelling the followers to gather at just one place where he is delivering his sermons. Bohra shop owners are compelled to close down their shops, businessmen to suspend their business and students to miss their classes and exams for 9 days of Moharram and be present in the Masjids to hear Dai's discourses. Crores of rupees are spent on relaying his lackluster Waiz in Bohra-populace all over the world. Bohra men and women kneeling down on the road with folded hands, like a slave, on Dai's arrival and departure, at each time and all places. Dai’s establishment invited media and TV channels personnel with their cameras inside the mosques to cover the occasion and give it as much publicity as possible. The whole atmosphere in the Bohra locality was heavy with the cult and personality of Dai. No one, not even his representatives while sending press release ever talks about the tragedy of Karbala or Teachings of Islam. They only talk about the Burhanuddin, falsely claiming that he is most concerned for Muslims, for love, peace integrity and well-being of every individual in the world. The fact is that Mufaddal is not bothered even about the sufferings of his own followers. He and his establishment leave no occasion to exploit and squeeze money from his followers. Even for his Moharram sermons he charges amounts in crores of rupees as his Salam and then only he agrees to deliver his sermons at a place of his choice. Red carpets are rolled out all over the path for dai as if he were a monarch and not a religious leader. Yadgare Yazidi

40. As RSS (fundamentalist Hindu grassroots organization, Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh) camp the followers worship weapons like swords and trishool, Dawoodi Bohras worship Syedna and Mufaddal worships power and those who are in power. Why does Mufaddal Saifuddin constantly travel all over the world fervently collecting money from Bohra communities? Shouldn’t he take a break? Moula Money, Moula Money, Moula Money. How much money does “Lalchee” Mufaddal Saifuddin want to collect before he passes on? Isn't the current amount he has sufficient? Sky is the limit

41. As if it is a day of Eid, Bohra happily call the 10th Moharram as Ashara Mubarak and celebrate it with fine colorful dresses as "Women use colorful Ridas - in baby pink, pale green, baby blue, lavender - embroidered with intricate floral patterns, lavish food with chicken biryani, ice-cream and sweets. Why does Bohra Dai made the month of Muharram similar to a circus event where thousands of Bohras follow him around like sheep? Has there ever been a time when Mufaddal's repetitive lackluster lecture has bored you to the point of dozing off for a brief moment? Be honest now! Ah------------- Only power full name is Ya Husain----- Ya Husain, Mumineen Nee Jamaat--------Ah--------Ya Husain----------Ah—Bawajee Saheb Farmaway Chay Su Kaam Fikar Karu Cho, Mey Jannat Ma Laee Jaees.

42. How can Mufaddal Saifuddin claim he is a Dai when he doesn't exhibit any qualities of a Dai? Aren't genuine Dai's suppose to live a life without luxury, numerous quantity of material goods, and reaping a massive amount of money on almost every occasion of his life? Like Guru Rajnesh

43. Why has Syedna developed such a system where we must offer money every time to get permission, for burial purposes, marriage, naming ceremonies, new births, birthdays, and several other "rituals"? It wouldn't shock me if Syedna Mufaddal required us to ask him permission for each time we shit, pee, or engage in sexual activity and don't forget we would have to offer him Salam along the way.

How long Pigs of Qasr-e-Aali and bulldogs of Bait-e-Zaani will suck blood of Bohras???

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Re: Bohras-Worst Mushrik, Nastiest then Qadianies

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Unread post by Saeed al Khair » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:22 am

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Sub: Dawoodi Bohras-Worst then Mushrik, Nastiest then Qadianies

For at least last 50 years, following blatant and sacrilegious acts have been imposed on and practiced by Dawoodi Bohra Clergy - not necessarily in any order:

1. Salwaat, which up till now recited on the prophet and his Ahl ul Bait are being recited on Tahir Saifuddin and Muhammed Burhanuddin. Kufr & Zulm

2. Two Rakaat Salaat, which is not offered even for Nabi, Imams and Ahl al Bait is now being prayed for Tahir Saifuddin, Muhammed Burhanuddin and Mufaddal Shai**nuddin after every Farz Salaat in Bohra Temples worldwide

3. Matam on the Zikr of Tahir Saifuddin and Muhammed Burhanuddin.

4. Compulsory dress code of Saya for all Bohra males, to degrade the dress of Ulema. Compulsory colorful Surti Rida for all Bohra females. Promotion of the Surti culture.

5. Darees, coined for earning of mullas, by devil brain, Dr. Yusuf Najmuddin, the champion rascal and master mind Amir of Jamiatus Safiya. Continual source of income

6. Numerous mandatory Taxes. In past there was merely the nominal and almost voluntary Sabil and Sila Fitra, while at present ikram fund(for the luxury of so called Haramzada Royal Family), Haj fund (an imposed Bidat, introduced for the enjoyment of Mullas on the name of Haj), Establishment Fund(it is a pure Gunda tax, for the utilization of Aamil and his associates). The Dai said: "Khuda Wajebaat Ada Karnar Nay Ghanu Apay ....Ek Na Sitter (70) Apay ...Ek Na Hazar Apay Ghani Anay Ghani Barakat Apay..." I have heard this phrase many times from beggars. Except they do not use word 'Wajebaat'. Sydena (May Allah Guide him to Straight Path and forgive his habit of committing Shirk) is a high class Beggar. He grants Dua usually Tamay Ek Paisa Apsu Tu Khuda Lakh Apsay. Exploitation of Priest.

7. Issuance of dreaded E-Jamat identity cards like the government. Full Exploitation

8. ‘Al Vazaratus Saifya’, Bohra Administrative despotic rule by appointments of the paid local criminals, rather than the honorary local office bearers. Postings of the Qasre Aali/Baite Zaani, the Haraam Royal Family (Rescale family of the Dai) as Aamils and managing executives to the choicest Jamats around the world, rather than qualified. Treat the bastards Royal Family as superior blood lineage. Lavish and luxurious lifestyle of the so-called She-zadas and She-zadis on the hard earnings of the poor community members. Lifestyle of Muawiya and Yazid

9. Waqaf - Every Masjid, Markaz, hospital, musafirkhana or Jamat properties are on the name of Royal Satan Family Members. Renovation of all the Masjids and institutions round the year is a part of business. Demolishing of the good condition Masjids and other Heritage Buildings (just to remove the name plate of its builder) and re-building new structures with the name of the Holy Father Muhammed Burhanuddin or his puppy. Even UNESCO has condemned this ill practice by the Dawoodi Bohra clergy. Permanent Gold Mines

10. Imposed Lisane-Dawat: an adulterated Gujrati, and hate to talk in Urdu. Dawoodi Bohra clergy condemned Urdu speaking class and force them to talk in Gujrati. Policy of Lord Micaville

11. Name changing- 11 Haram She-zadas can change any child's or adult’s name (especially those names which are sound common Muslim to typical type name ,like Bharmal, Tarmal, Jiwanji, Jew, Ratan, without consulting the person or their parents at his own will. Method to rule over the fools

12. Impose compulsory permission of “Raza” from the clergy (Permission of Mulla) for everything that you do in your personal life, just to pocket the money. Even for sexual intercourse with wife, blind followers obtain the permission from Dai, She-zada/Aamil, as a token of sacred blessings/Barkat. Perpetual source of earning

13. Round the year get to gather with different names, to make busy the fools’ members of the community. Controlling policy

14. So called infallibility of the Dai. Tahir Saifuddin's claim that for all practical purposes the Dai is God on earth. See for References: Chanda Bhai Gulla Case, Burhanpur Dargah Case, reported by A.I.L.R. Shirk

15. Persuade people by several manners for Lavish Ziafat and huge Salam for Dai and his puppies, not in millions but in billions. Perpetual source of income

16. Waqaf - Every Masjid, Markaz, hospital, musafirkhana or Jamat properties are on the name of Royal Satan Family Members. Perpetual source of income

17. Minting money by selling Tabarrukat(pieces of stones, wood, Burhanuddin’s grave cover pieces to weak-faith people all over the world. Perpetual business

18.Religious feasts arranged by individuals or by collection, but Amil has to chant that "Syedna Na Ghar Nu Sau Izzan Chey" all people are invited on behalf of Syedna. Lavish feast – Run around the world to collect the money. Feast festivals on every occasion – at least 4 saltiest dishes and 4 sweet dishes, as it is the order of the Dai to do Fakhir feast. Zikre Husain on Dastar Khawn e Muawiyah, Rule over the Fools

19. Slave making custom of Misaq taken when one is not mature mentally. See some points:
If a person taking the oath breaks it, all his possessions, i.e. moveable, cash, housing, utensils, jewels, ornaments, carriages, horses, cattle, milking cows, she buffaloes, slaves- males and females and all worldly materials become unlawful for him. All his property is liable to be confiscated (and to be distributed among the members of the Royal Family /Baite Zaani, the sacred fuckers). When he takes the oath again and accepts all the terms of that covenant then his things become lawful to him and then only he is entitled to get his things back...say yes.

All the benefits which he had already enjoyed (from his possessions) becomes unlawful i.e. with a prospective effect unless he takes the oath afresh (the past enjoyments) do not become lawful. Say yes. All the slaves- males and females of the breaker of the oath become free and the defaulter loses all ownership over them until a fresh oath and he keeps faith with the covenant...say yes.

And if the breaker of the covenant has a wife that wife becomes forbidden to him. The breach of covenant has the effect of three divorces against the wife, irrevocable. The woman can never marry him again; neither can he take her as a wife. Say yes. If the breaker of the oath performs Haj thirty times with naked feet even then God shall not forgive him his sin (in breaking the covenant) nor shall God accept his Haj. But if he takes the oath again by the true Dai’s covenant, his master, then and then alone God shall accept his Haj, his prayers, fasts and other good deeds. ... Say yes.

And the breaker of the covenant accursed of God by that curse which was inflicted on Iblis, the Satan the effect of which was that paradise was lost to Satan and hell became his inheritance.

And the breaker of the covenant shall face God as Kafir and apostate after death. He is beyond redemption by the power of God. He will be thrown on his own soul and shall curse him and shall extend hell to him which hell is the worst of all places. There is no God but the Merciful and Benevolent. The Defaulter turns away his face from the worship of God and turns it to the worship of idols. All Kafirs worship idols and thus shall become attached to the idol and the grace of God shall destroy the breaker of the oath with rapidity and shall confine him to hell in which there is nothing but torture...say yes.” In past it was never intended to be binding for all time by Misaq. Why is the Kothar and their agents forbidding the public to use the translation, is it because they are trying to hide something? During the Misaq ceremony one is shown a piece of paper and you have to sign it, of course no time given to read it and one is not to ask any questions. Why? What are they hiding? You only hide something you done

20. Several innovation occurred in past 50 years among Bohras, which are more than Shirk.
Discrimination and isolation - towards another Muslim community – non Bohra cannot even step to Bohra Markaz or Masjid. Promotion of Sectarian Hatred

21. Families with girls are abiding with all rules and regulations, since they are worried about the girls and would like to get them married only to Bohra boys. For the sake of the girls they have to bear all the torture of the clergy. I say some of them, Allah is your protector. Even if the girl is married in a non Bohra family (like it is in so many cases around the world) as long as the girl is happy that should be your concern. A Bohra boy does not necessary mean a good boy. Our Prophet married Abubaker’s daughter Aysha and Umar’s daughter Hafsa,Umme habiba-sister of Muawiyah. Follow his Sunnat. Do not bear the atrocities of the clergy because you are afraid for daughter’s future. Trust Allah and if He has bestowed you a daughter then He will provide her companion. Have the faith in Allah not in the Mulla Dalla .Exploitation

22. Dai Mufaddal Shaitanuddin force to send Lanat on Umar, Abubakar and Usman. Promotion of Sectarian Hatred, lead to riots.

23. Female Genital Mutilation (FGM). In Bohra hospitals, clinics and set up this heinous crime has been practice. Every community girl is forced to remove her upper vagina portion. This crime has been done under top secrecy. Violation of Women Rights/Sexual Crimes

24.Wadhana/Arti has great importance in all ceremonies. Kurnish/Qadambosi,Namastey style of Salaam with folded two hands, in front of even a petty Mulla. Hindu Tradition.

25. Interference of Aamil/mulla in all personal matters of community member is routine. Prsecution among families. Exploitation by ghunda force of the “Burhani Guards”. Ghunda Raj

26. Installed Galla-treasury boxes in every Mazars in India and Yemen to pocket the billions of rupees for the higher clergy. Perpetual source of income. Spent millions of dollars in Ruzat Tahira, Bhindi Bazar. Destroy hard earned money of the community unnecessary. Self glorification of the holy father by the holy son

27. Properties and investments of Qasre Aali/Baite Zaani in abroad. The holy father and his thug family are vacationing in West and enjoying earning fat bucks, private jet riding, money making Ziyafats, sightseeing and the list can go on and on. For the past several years Holy Family(Dai’s Family) have invaded the Western World, Africa, Middle East and Far East for the obvious reason - to make easy money in these rich countries and same time they can get away from the legal problems and lawsuits etc. that have plagued them for many years in their native country of India. Exploitation and Corruption

28. Holy Father-Syedna has declared forbidden to read Quran's translation in English,urdu,Gujrati or any other language. Exploitation

29. Holy Father, Syedna sale the title of Shiekh to increase his wealth and control to lose character, notorious drunkard, rapist and so on. Any criminal, third grade person can get honour in Bohra Jamaat from the Dai to pay his demanded amount, which is 20 lakh to One carore Rs to get the position of Sheikh. Some 100 years ago this position was given to the Aalim and Muttaqi person only, without money. Today if “Hijra” pay the amount, Mufaddal grant him position of Sheikh. Degradation of the Ulama /literates

30. The team of Dai and his international Mafia are remaining busy in brain-washing the Bohra community for their own malicious interests. Exploitation and Corruption

31. Around the world, Bohra Clergy is collecting substantial amounts of money from their followers through various funds with new tactics. This exploitation of the public hard earnings is not for community welfare but it’s for Dai’s family. If they utilized public funds for community’s education, research, hospitals, or the creation of new jobs for everybody (not just for the select few) than it would make much more sense. Syedna and his punters are imposing unnecessary rules and regulations. They are mimicking a dictatorship type system in this 21st century. In turn, followers cannot ever question the accountability of monies collected and address any issues or suggestions without being ex-communicated from the Jamat. Exploitation and Corruption


32. At every event and after each Salaat in Masjid the Pesh Imam force to do Matam. This is wrong because Matam should only be set aside for the month of Moharram only. The Mullas do not have to preach much and spend the majority of the time sitting on a cushioned chair watching everybody else doing Matam. After hours of exhaustion, the Mullas are ready to fatten their pockets. If you haven't noticed, the Mullas are insisting that Sayedna should come to your city for Waaz in Moharram. This is another scheme to get your hard earned "mighty" finance. The Holy Shaitan Family is more eager to collect dollars than any other currency because his wealth can be increased at a much faster rate. Why should our money go to an investment without any return? In light of the above statements something must be done to change the corrupt system implemented by the Sayedna. We must all unite together and struggle for a major change against these "Blood Suckers" and save our community from their evil tactics. Why our community is centered so strongly around one goal- the collection of money? Insult of Matam and promote Phobia

33. Bohras are not part of Ummah at all. They are cult that uses the principles of Islam to make money. They quote Ali and Husain in their lectures and do Matam without any knowledge of the true meaning behind their actions. The Team of Shezadas and Mufaddal profits heavily on the name of Imam Husain. Did past Imams and dais make a business out of Islamic teachings and values? Insult of Matam and spread Phobia. Exploitation on the name of Husain

34. Corruption in the Bohra community has been prevalent for more than 60 years. It all began when late Dai Tahir Saifuddin was instilled with power. Once in power the atrocities gradually became the mainstream of our society. Mufadal Saifudin began to exploit the public by imposing ridiculous Fatwas, the Un-Islamic Misaq, attaining property from the public and transferring the title of the private property to his name, money making Ziyafats, exonerating people upon receiving huge sums of money, increasing the status of an individual with financial payments, or heavy taxation (Sabeel, Khumus). When Burhanuddin’s son Mufaddal became the so-called “Moula” he followed the footsteps of his father and increased the corruption to staggering “levels”. Mufaddal started the “dreaded” collection of money for every step of one’s personal life, name changing, and running to see him wherever he is during Moharram. Mufaddal Saifuddin is the sole person responsible for the development and implementation of his corrupt practices. The local Aamils, Bhaisahebs, and etc implement the orders dictated by Mufaddal. From every Bohra Jamaat (round the world) CEO of Mufaddal wants to see profits trickle into their massive bank accounts. Therefore, to ensure a constant flow of cash Dai puts Aamils, Sheiks, etc to manage the operation. Remember, they report to children of Mufaddal and inform of operations. This is simply a business of Mufaddal which he has created and enjoys reaping the profits. Islam never explicitly or implicitly mentions that it is acceptable for one to create a business in the name of Islam. If you don’t agree with the truth mentioned above then you are practicing the wrong religion. Ruling by international Mafia Net work

35. The Dai announce to grant the Qarzan Hasana fund is money collected from large amounts of contributions in the form Bhatta beside Salam, Zakat, and other imposed taxes the Kothar receives everyday from mindless Bohras. First of all, to even be eligible for money from Qarzan Hasana you have to be the “fanatic follower” of the Jamaat. Basically you have to lick their ass till your tongue turns brown. After struggling to get acknowledgment and awareness from the clergy that you are in the need of money a huge salaam will be required from the borrower. The salaam is similar to paying interest on a loan because it's money that you literally throw away in order to participate in a loan. And to make matters worse, you have to give them a substantial amount of collateral. Unwillingly, the priest class will assume that your collateral is a gift and your likelihood of receiving it back is slim to none. Finally, when your hopes begin to rise they will immediately sink down when they issue you funds for an insignificant amount. For people expecting 400,000 to 500,000 (the usual amount needed to start a small business nowadays), forget it. You’ll be lucky to receive even 20,000.What we object to is the non-accountability of these "Baitulmaal". One simple question: How does the Bohra Clergy maintain or sustain their lavish lifestyles around the world and world-wide travels. You may say that they are entitled to a stipend for serving the community. If they are entitled to such exorbitant stipends, how about the real Mullah and Sheikhs (graduates of the Jameia) who serve the flock throughout the world - I may add in the rural communities as opposed to the Bhaisahebs and She-zadas who "serve" in the urban and international cities. I recently went around India for Ziyarats and I saw with my own eyes how the real Mullas and Sheikhs live pathetically and poorly and serve the community in or around the villages and towns - especially looking after some Mazaars. You offer them a token salaam and they a thank you profusely and with such heartfelt gratification and Dua. Compare this to the Zaani Bhaisahebs and Harami She-zadas. They will demand hefty Salams even before they provide funeral service and then treat you like dirt - even with curses!! By the way, can you elaborate on "Allah keeps me from wrath for asking you to perform your Salaat.” Exploitation and Corruption

36. Mufaddal stresses to their "slaves" that it is forbidden to collect interest (Riba) by putting your money in an account that earns a financial reward. Well, I would like to know if Mufaddal Saifuddin “practices what he preaches” in regards to his personal finances? Where does he keep the billions of Dollars he has accumulated in the past several decades? Does he store his commodities in the form of cash in his palace or in Swiss Bank accounts earning high rates of interest and in addition, protection from the I.R.S.? Think about it for a minute. With the amount of financial resources at the fingertips of Mufaddal one can wonder about the broad range of investment opportunities available to him. I can undeniably imagine that banks come forward to Syedna begging him to store his enormous wealth in their accounts. Exploitation and Corruption

37. Majority of Bohra women are highly emotional and uneducated and, therefore, are prone to manipulation by Mulla. As a matter of fact because of these fanatic Bohra women, Mufaddal’s Business is booming at very staggering level. Also, mostly men in the Bohra community are very puny and act like sissies in front of Mufaddal and his family. They need to resist Khotar and must do concrete effort for the change. In order to combat the big "Lucifer" and his cabinet, there is no need to live in fear or intimidated by "thug" Shaitanuddin and Company. Ignorance of Bohra Community

38. Typical Bohra Wedding Card written in "Dawat Nee Zabaan" for Bohra slaves imposed by "Burhani Mafia" - It's so funny and it symbolizes Mufaddal Saifuddin as an idol or God that is in need of worship! The wedding cards 5 to 10 years ago were not written to praise Dai like a god. This card is so senseless and made even worse because it is written in "dumb" Gujrati, so called Dawat Nee Zaban. How dumb can the Bohras get by adopting this trash and forgetting the supremacy of Allah? Here it goes: “Syedna Duae Mustajab See Makhsus Chey. Har Majlis Mashhad Ma Dua Na Motiyo Nisar Farmavey Chey. Ye Dua Par Malaikat Amin Boley Chey. Khasatan Ehna Mazahir Zikra Na Khutba Ma Nazar Aaya, Ye Dua Ni Barakat Pehriyo lagan baki rehsay. Haqiqi nemat Hudat- kiraam chey. Ye Hudat Karaam ni zikar haqiqat ma Khuda ni zikar chey. Ye nemato ni zikar har haal ma wajib chey. Ye zikar shukar adaa karwa no bhalo zariya chey. Ehny hurmat si hamari daughter/son---- nee Shadee naseeb thaee chay. Ahma shareek thawa nu aap nay izan araz kariyay chay---Tey kabul farmavi libasul Anwar ma tashrif laavi mamnun kariye--- Every invitation cards/letter have to mentioned Mufaddal Saifuddin’s name and at the end one has to be mentioned as "Abde Syedna" and "Amte Syedna". Shirk---Ghunda Mafia Rule by force of Danda

39. Ashra of Moharram - its festival of joy for Mufaddal and his mafia Kothar - They run around all over the world to make the most money -Where is Mufaddal going to be this year? How insane can a 93 year old person be? He is still meandering all over the world to make fat bucks in the name of Imam Hussain. I know that the fanatical Bohris are willing to scurry about the Earth this Mohrarram in search of Mufaddal. No Muslim leader anywhere in the world makes such vulgar show of his personality as Mufaddal does, by stopping Waiz everywhere and compelling the followers to gather at just one place where he is delivering his sermons. Bohra shop owners are compelled to close down their shops, businessmen to suspend their business and students to miss their classes and exams for 9 days of Moharram and be present in the Masjids to hear Dai's discourses. Crores of rupees are spent on relaying his lackluster Waiz in Bohra-populace all over the world. Bohra men and women kneeling down on the road with folded hands, like a slave, on Dai's arrival and departure, at each time and all places. Dai’s establishment invited media and TV channels personnel with their cameras inside the mosques to cover the occasion and give it as much publicity as possible. The whole atmosphere in the Bohra locality was heavy with the cult and personality of Dai. No one, not even his representatives while sending press release ever talks about the tragedy of Karbala or Teachings of Islam. They only talk about the Burhanuddin, falsely claiming that he is most concerned for Muslims, for love, peace integrity and well-being of every individual in the world. The fact is that Mufaddal is not bothered even about the sufferings of his own followers. He and his establishment leave no occasion to exploit and squeeze money from his followers. Even for his Moharram sermons he charges amounts in crores of rupees as his Salam and then only he agrees to deliver his sermons at a place of his choice. Red carpets are rolled out all over the path for dai as if he were a monarch and not a religious leader. Yadgare Yazidi

40. As RSS (fundamentalist Hindu grassroots organization, Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh) camp the followers worship weapons like swords and trishool, Dawoodi Bohras worship Syedna and Mufaddal worships power and those who are in power. Why does Mufaddal Saifuddin constantly travel all over the world fervently collecting money from Bohra communities? Shouldn’t he take a break? Moula Money, Moula Money, Moula Money. How much money does “Lalchee” Mufaddal Saifuddin want to collect before he passes on? Isn't the current amount he has sufficient? Sky is the limit

41. As if it is a day of Eid, Bohra happily call the 10th Moharram as Ashara Mubarak and celebrate it with fine colorful dresses as "Women use colorful Ridas - in baby pink, pale green, baby blue, lavender - embroidered with intricate floral patterns, lavish food with chicken biryani, ice-cream and sweets. Why does Bohra Dai made the month of Muharram similar to a circus event where thousands of Bohras follow him around like sheep? Has there ever been a time when Mufaddal's repetitive lackluster lecture has bored you to the point of dozing off for a brief moment? Be honest now! Ah------------- Only power full name is Ya Husain----- Ya Husain, Mumineen Nee Jamaat--------Ah--------Ya Husain----------Ah—Bawajee Saheb Farmaway Chay Su Kaam Fikar Karu Cho, Mey Jannat Ma Laee Jaees.

42. How can Mufaddal Saifuddin claim he is a Dai when he doesn't exhibit any qualities of a Dai? Aren't genuine Dai's suppose to live a life without luxury, numerous quantity of material goods, and reaping a massive amount of money on almost every occasion of his life? Like Guru Rajnesh

43. Why has Syedna developed such a system where we must offer money every time to get permission, for burial purposes, marriage, naming ceremonies, new births, birthdays, and several other "rituals"? It wouldn't shock me if Syedna Mufaddal required us to ask him permission for each time we shit, pee, or engage in sexual activity and don't forget we would have to offer him Salam along the way.

How long Pigs of Qasr-e-Aali and bulldogs of Bait-e-Zaani will suck blood of Bohras???

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Re: The state of Bohras today

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Unread post by silvertongue » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:37 am

Bro its a common fact that pagans worshipped Allah, they even loved Allah,the problem was always not worshipping Allah ALONE .

Exclusivity of Worshipping Allah alone is the very core basis of Islam. One who denies this denies Islam

Dua is worship
Ya A**** madad is dua to A*****
hence an instance of Shirk.

The satan wants to delude people in Shirk only as this is the only sin which guarentees hellfire if not done tauba.

Hence I would be with people who strongly condemn it and take all possible actions to save humanity from Shirk.
A Million times YA ALI MADAD.. and if you call me Kaafir for this Id be more than happy for that. You know why coz I love the one Who Allah and his Messenger loves the most. That makes me more near to them. And as far as the worshipping goes, no one knows my heart or anyones heart better than Allah. So leave that judgement to him alone and stop being a judge by yourself. You dont have the authority to call anyone Kafir just by seeing someone doing some act. You dont know whats in his heart. If you say sajda, then my friend sajda has many forms as well. Sajda to parents, in respect to obedience, likewise Sajda to Prophet or Imam, in respect to the Acceptance and obedience of Allah's authority on this earth. Leave the Dai here coz I dont want to comment on that. and if it pleases you then again YA ALI MADAD... :)

ghulam muhammed
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Re: The state of Bohras today

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:18 pm

THE MINI SLAVES........... TEACHING THEM EARLY !!

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fustrate_Bohra
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Re: The state of Bohras today

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Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:30 pm

These little innocent kids will be our future Brain Dead abdes like we have many in these forums whose training i guess was started during this age.

Akhtiar Wahid
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Re: The state of Bohras today

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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:21 pm

These kids are unaware of all this idol worshiping, they are just doing this due to teaching of their parents about their faith. Once they grow up i am sure they will understand the true meaning of Islam.
Allah(SWT) works in mysterious ways.

JavedhJuma
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Re: The state of Bohras today

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Unread post by JavedhJuma » Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:52 pm

silvertongue wrote:
Bro its a common fact that pagans worshipped Allah, they even loved Allah,the problem was always not worshipping Allah ALONE .

Exclusivity of Worshipping Allah alone is the very core basis of Islam. One who denies this denies Islam

Dua is worship
Ya A**** madad is dua to A*****
hence an instance of Shirk.

The satan wants to delude people in Shirk only as this is the only sin which guarentees hellfire if not done tauba.

Hence I would be with people who strongly condemn it and take all possible actions to save humanity from Shirk.
A Million times YA ALI MADAD.. and if you call me Kaafir for this Id be more than happy for that. You know why coz I love the one Who Allah and his Messenger loves the most. That makes me more near to them. And as far as the worshipping goes, no one knows my heart or anyones heart better than Allah. So leave that judgement to him alone and stop being a judge by yourself. You dont have the authority to call anyone Kafir just by seeing someone doing some act. You dont know whats in his heart. If you say sajda, then my friend sajda has many forms as well. Sajda to parents, in respect to obedience, likewise Sajda to Prophet or Imam, in respect to the Acceptance and obedience of Allah's authority on this earth. Leave the Dai here coz I dont want to comment on that. and if it pleases you then again YA ALI MADAD... :)

Bravo Brother! Bravo! Joog, Joog Jiyo Mere Bhai! Ya Ali Madad!

zinger
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Re: The state of Bohras today

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Unread post by zinger » Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:00 am

JavedhJuma wrote:
silvertongue wrote: A Million times YA ALI MADAD.. and if you call me Kaafir for this Id be more than happy for that. You know why coz I love the one Who Allah and his Messenger loves the most. That makes me more near to them. And as far as the worshipping goes, no one knows my heart or anyones heart better than Allah. So leave that judgement to him alone and stop being a judge by yourself. You dont have the authority to call anyone Kafir just by seeing someone doing some act. You dont know whats in his heart. If you say sajda, then my friend sajda has many forms as well. Sajda to parents, in respect to obedience, likewise Sajda to Prophet or Imam, in respect to the Acceptance and obedience of Allah's authority on this earth. Leave the Dai here coz I dont want to comment on that. and if it pleases you then again YA ALI MADAD... :)

Bravo Brother! Bravo! Joog, Joog Jiyo Mere Bhai! Ya Ali Madad!
Ya Ali Madad

silvertongue
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Re: The state of Bohras today

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Unread post by silvertongue » Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:04 am

SAFAR TAVEEL HAI , UMRE DARAZ CHOTI HAI
ALI KA ZIKR BAHOT HAI , HAYAT CHOTI HAI
ALI KO KAISE MAIN MAULA E KAYNAAT KAHU
BADA HAI NAAM E ALI , KAYNAAT CHOTI HAI

ALI FUROO BHI HAI , ALI USOOL BHI
ALI MAULAE KAYNAAT , SHOHRE BATOOL BHI HAI
YA ALI KEHNA AGAR HAI HARAAM
TO IS GUNAH ME SHAMIL MERA RASOOL BHI HAI!!

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Re: Bohras-Worst Mushrik, Nastiest then Qadianies

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Unread post by aliabbaskhw » Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:42 am

Dear Saeed Al Khair
With reference to your detail post "Bohras-Worst Mushrik, Nastiest then Qadianies" can you please also upload the the names and signatories of this joint deceleration. As without names and signatories the word deceleration seems meaning less. If the names and signatories are not disclosed because of social boycott then its understandable, however, if you can post with the names and signatories of joint deceleration , i will request you to post again with all these details as it will be very helpful and look more authentic in forwarding this specially in Karachi, Pakistan.