Kothar under screening in Saudi Arabia. Muffy Cancels Umra

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Hussain_KSA
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Kothar under screening in Saudi Arabia. Muffy Cancels Umra

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Unread post by Hussain_KSA » Tue May 06, 2014 10:39 am

It is confirmed that Mulla Shabbir of Makkah rubaat in Saudi Arabia was picked up by secret police last week and later his house was raided and many objectionable items including his laptop was confisticated. He was not coopreting but later tasting some policing he revealed the information to them which lead to raid at his residence. Police was shocked to see ejamat details and huge amount transfer online from his laptop as he is staying in Saudi Arabia on House driver visa. Mulla Shabbir is very close to Syed ul Khair ( Muffys brother in law and partner in crime) Mumineen are also in embrassing situation as all their details are known to authorities.
Two months back were also 13 people were arrested from Makkah Rubat and since then police was keeping an eye on their activities.
Its said that as soon as the news of arrest reach to Mumbai, Muffy cancelled his plan umra trip to Saudi Arabia till the dust settles down (probably after Muharram). This is good news for the mumineen as they were afraid of losing lot of money as usual.



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Unread post by SAJJAD » Tue May 06, 2014 1:11 pm

MUFFU :evil: SHOULD BE PERMANENTLY BANNED TO ENTER IN SAUDI ARABIA, IRAQ AND EGYPT.



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Unread post by seeker110 » Tue May 06, 2014 2:00 pm

We should send him to Kandahar. They will kiss his feet and do shukar na sajda. They deserve all the happiness our leader spreads.



Kaka Akela
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Unread post by Kaka Akela » Tue May 06, 2014 2:18 pm

I hope and pray that somebody will submit the misaq document to the Saudi Govt, so they can see the in-humane conditions the momineen live in. Total submission and total slavery. we have to submit to such harsh conditions at the tender age of 14-15 years of age. A misaq is required that is un-deniable but not with such harsh conditions and giving up all our rights with no privileges. In earlier Doat times misaq did not have such harsh conditions, STS started this grabbing of all our rights, wealth, body & soul.



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Unread post by canadian » Tue May 06, 2014 2:31 pm

SAJJAD wrote:MUFFU :evil: SHOULD BE PERMANENTLY BANNED TO ENTER IN SAUDI ARABIA, IRAQ AND EGYPT.
That means people in East Africa, Madagascar and Mauritius will have to make up the shortfall in cash ;and perhaps to a lesser extent the Americans, British and Canadians!



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Unread post by AgnosticIndian » Tue May 06, 2014 3:15 pm

Kaka Akela wrote:I hope and pray that somebody will submit the misaq document to the Saudi Govt, so they can see the in-humane conditions the momineen live in. Total submission and total slavery. we have to submit to such harsh conditions at the tender age of 14-15 years of age. A misaq is required that is un-deniable but not with such harsh conditions and giving up all our rights with no privileges. In earlier Doat times misaq did not have such harsh conditions, STS started this grabbing of all our rights, wealth, body & soul.
Saudis aren't virtuous. A repressive, regressive regime that should go first. We don't need Saudi stamp of approval



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Unread post by anajmi » Tue May 06, 2014 4:33 pm

Correct. The Saudis are not the torch-bearers of Islam. Infact, most problems existing today for muslims that are man made are because of the action or inaction of the Saudi royalty.



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Unread post by seeker110 » Tue May 06, 2014 5:56 pm

Whose brilliant idea was to go to SA in the first place. Why would you go where they will watch and judge you strictly. Then comes the reason, could it be that he does not trust the money coming in. Maybe he is short changed by the governors (amils). Why else would the gang play the risky game.(gamble). It is safer to do ziafats and make shiekhs. There are more fools with even more fool wives in India.



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Unread post by Sufi monk » Tue May 06, 2014 7:45 pm

spread this news, so that sheepish abdes knows their master is nothing now.



think
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Unread post by think » Tue May 06, 2014 10:10 pm

it gives me great pleasure to see from the posts that this cancer of ghulami is now wide open and people are realizing the truth between truth and falsehood. some one did report to the saudi govt. and more people will rise . maybe tomorrow some one will also report to the kuwaiti govt. authorities and the next time some one who is sick and tired of the high handedness of the so called abde bohras and their crook leaders may even report to dubai authorities. I just wait for the day they are sacked out of the U.A.E. and we can live our lives in peace.



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Unread post by Ozdundee » Wed May 07, 2014 7:20 am

Allah Akbar ....mashallah ...keep up the good work

النصر الحلو، ونحن كسب المعارك الصغيرة، يمكننا أن نأمل في كسب الحرب ضد النفاق والطغيان من قادة كاذبة

I like the
tasting some policing
comment...we should rendition some other Amils and zadas to KSA...



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Unread post by Rebel » Wed May 07, 2014 9:55 am

Why would MS cancel his visit? Does he not want to get arrested as his Amil did on house driver visa...LOL....Why would mumineen not understand that many of the rituals that they practice are deviations from Islamic principles?
Someone in the thread correctly mentioned that we have deviated from true Islam and our leaders have made it a point to make religion a business extracting money from the common in every way and any way possible. Islam stands for justice and equality and yet we find that we have created a caste system in the community.



Al Zulfiqar
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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Wed May 07, 2014 3:15 pm

bro. hussain,

thanks for posting this report. let the blind fanatics try to learn a lesson from this. but that is hoping against hope, because the blind orthos have lost major parts of their brain matter to the rascal clergy and no longer have the ability to think independently for themselves. even a horse with blinkers will rise in fear when confronted with danger to its being, but not the retarded slave abdes.

agreed that the saudi's are not the best of muslims themselves, but atleast one will have to acknowledge, albeit grudgingly, that they are the only muslim govt in the world to take a hardline against the mushrik bohras who are no longer muslims but a deviant sect/cult who are being led astray by their haramkhor leaders and practising strange and perverted rituals whilst abusing the name of islam and its prophet.

this is not the 1st time that the saudi's have cracked down on these bohra apostates. right from the time of the esrtwhile shabbirbhaisaab vajihuddin, amil of jeddah, who was caught, beaten and deported in the 80's by the saudi's for money laundering on behalf of the kothar, after which syedna was banned from saudi for over 20 years and was only allowed in a for a brief, no-nonsense visit without all the accompanying fanfare and hordes of insane chamchas, to the closure of dammam jamaat premises, to warnings to the riyadh jamaat etc etc, the saudi's are the only ones who have taught the kothari pretenders hard lessons. unfortunately the rest of the arab gulf countries, although being kept fully in the loop by the saudi's, prefer to take the 'dont see, dont hear, dont speak' approach for commercial, tourism and political reasons, esp. the uae, but kuwait has been denying the idol worshipping bohras a permanent purpose-built masjid for years, labelling them as not being 'fully muslims', whilst bahrain does not grant visas to bohras and all shia's.

one might perhaps argue that the actions of the criminal clergy should not be the cause of loss of livelihood for ordinary hard-working, misguided bohras and that we should sympathise with them and even commiserate with them, but isnt it their own fault, inspite of allah having given them faculties of reasoning, that they willingly declare their bondage to a bunch of crooks robbing them naked?

did not god rain death and destruction on sodom and gomorrah and hurl them all into hell en masse'? did he stop then to spare the few good souls who might be unfortunately there, who surely did not indulge in the debauchery and depravity of the majority?

it is high time that this entire cult and its leaders were made to suffer and suffer grievously, only then perhaps will their eyes open and their remaining cranial matter get activated once more. the prospects could otherwise be similar to the destruction of the firaun and his cult.



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Unread post by Rebel » Wed May 07, 2014 5:51 pm

This is cult has amassed so much wealth that they turn politicians towards their favor by bribing them in any part of the world. Although they have created so much havoc and destruction in peoples' lives and they are still thriving and creating more wealth by extortion and oppressing the weak and uneducated Bohras. They are extremely cunning and shrewd and are like chameleons who can change behaviors and attitudes towards us so they can take advantage of us to the fullest. I fear that their doom is not near and instead I fear for the community's doom as people are blindly following them without understanding the impending disaster waiting for them.



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Unread post by Smart » Wed May 07, 2014 8:33 pm

The fact is that as a community DBs are doomed. It all started a hundred years ago when STS started the capture of the community and gradually made slaves of free individuals. The community was hijacked and taken over in the service of his family. A common refrain that abdes maintain is "you are free to leave and go" to anybody who questions them. As if you leave your family, relations and friends just like that. As a community we are shutting down. 3/4ths of the those born into have left and gone. This process has accelerated in the past few months after Muffi has re-hijacked it.

The good news is that those who have left and gone are happier, prosperous and in general doing better in life than those who remain as pathetic slaves. Long time back these firauns were able to control the narrative, however, now with the widespread use of internet and various social media platforms, they earth is slipping beneath the feet of the "ghaib na jankars".

Remember, no tyranny lasts long! God is great!! Allahu Akbar!!!



Bohra spring
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Unread post by Bohra spring » Thu May 08, 2014 1:42 am

What has occurred in Saudi A need to be replicated by persistence and patience around the world to weaken the foundations of falsehood

It is pleasing to know that for kothar and SMS places like Saudi Arabia , Kuwait, Malaysia , Australia ,Canada are no go zones , bed of thorns . Liberal minded Bohras in those places can live in peace and the Abdes who want to flatter have to take flights . I assume SKQ and PDB have made India a problem too.

We need such raids and investigations to happen in the US, Britain , UAE , Singapore , Hong Kong. Reformists need to wake up and do something. Authorities need leads.

I have no expectations from Yemen Pakistan , Sri Lanka , East Africa , Egypt they have very corrupt governments that any report will bounce.

The message for SKQ and their fans and loyalists can relay is join reformists , come to terms otherwise let us be united , because whether you win or not you will have to deal with us the hardway. We support you now by not getting in your way, but don't for once think we can be pushed aside or be deceived.



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Unread post by Rebel » Thu May 08, 2014 3:08 pm

I would assume that mullahs and community in Pakistan must be living in fear as recently they have been targets of Talibans. Does reformists or KQ have any support of people in Pakistan at all or is it only in India?



Bohra spring
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Unread post by Bohra spring » Fri May 09, 2014 7:51 am

A whatsaap message is doing rounds that Saudi Riyal 42 million was transmitted overseas in a year through a computer that has been confiscated. That is $11million

this a massive amount and I suspect it is profits from Bohras paying fees for Hajj and Umrah. I can only imagine similar funds are laundered from Karbala, yemen and India ziyarats

Is this really how much profits Kothar makes ? No wonder why everyone is encouraged to go on ziyarat even if one has to take karzan



think
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Unread post by think » Fri May 09, 2014 8:40 am

This whole clergy, their zadas their children and the head is a bunch of devious celf centered people. There is no community spirit or helping another in time of need. If this motto was the basis of this religion then the zadas and their children would not be living aristocratic lives.



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Unread post by accountability » Fri May 09, 2014 11:29 am

hussain bhai why don't you send it to indian media timeline saudia, so that our community members are informed to take proper precaution and not travel to saudia. I am sure that administration will not properly advise them. it is unfortunate that those responsible for gate collapse during syedna burhanuddin's funeral procession have not been taken to task, which resulted in atleast 20 deaths. whoever was responsible for gate closure or ordered should face criminal charges. but our administration do not care about their followers life. now this saudia episode will put our community members in perils, but administration will not change their behavior. money laundering is a criminal offence anywhere in the world. administration should now get out of this dirty business. and declare their assets and submit audit accounts of all community charities.



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Unread post by Rebel » Fri May 09, 2014 7:22 pm

They should be handcuffed and taken out in procession so we could dance to our joy at their going to behind the bars and we could live our lives in peace and harmony away from their deadly fangs.



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Unread post by bohri » Fri May 09, 2014 11:12 pm

Rebel wrote:They should be handcuffed and taken out in procession so we could dance to our joy at their going to behind the bars and we could live our lives in peace and harmony away from their deadly fangs.
Rebel - why wait for one corrupt government to handcuff another corrupt system? Stay true to your name by standing up to Kothar. Do not follow their rules. Do not finance them. You are more powerful than you think!