1435 the year when Bohras rebel and not pay wajebat

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Bohra spring
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1435 the year when Bohras rebel and not pay wajebat

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:20 pm

Heard so many statements about what we can or cannot do. Let us have a peaceful protest this year.

Come Ramadan can every Bohra reformist still in mainstream bohra , oppressed orthodox , or fence seater not pay wajebat when asked to. If Amil asks 500 say only 100 is possible . Make it extremely difficult for the Amil to get away.

Please don't fall for the smile , red handkerchief of white cotton masalla..it is not worth $10 and you will be parting with hundreds if not thousands of dollars

Those who are worried of zakat give it as 2.5% only and if you can find a needy person in the bohra who can benefit. If you don't want to give the reformists send the money to your friends or relatives. You don't have to give it to the Amil to get your obligation accepted. If you don't believe this reason, don't give it to the Amil at any cost , if you really have to give him minimum.

Let's bleed the bloody kothar.

Can those who are not sure at least send what's app message around to arouse the rebellion that this is the year of the end of oppressive wajebat. If kothar are reading let them know this is peaceful to start but if they want confrontation so be it.

awaken
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Re: 1435 the year when Bohras rebel and not pay wajebat

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Unread post by awaken » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:40 pm

make a pledge for yourself and future generation... present fair vajebat according to your finanacial condition... not accepted WALK-OUT... convince one of your friends to do the same
and it will mushroom exponentially.. Let be BRAVE this year. this opertunity comes not too often.

Sufi monk
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Re: 1435 the year when Bohras rebel and not pay wajebat

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Unread post by Sufi monk » Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:28 am

zakaat is only wajib only on savings and not on earnings.

so kindly make sure u pay 2.5% only if u think u saved some thing after all your expenses.

Islaam is against jamaakhori and if you think u are not trying to do jamakhoori and also spending money on other causes too then you dont need to pay a penny.


PS - Muffy is no one to collect any thing, he is neither blood related to Muhammed(s) nor any of his family can prove that he is official representative of IMAM.

so giving him money is like throwing money in gutter.

Akhtiar Wahid
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Re: 1435 the year when Bohras rebel and not pay wajebat

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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Mon Jun 09, 2014 6:59 am

@ bohra spring bhai, awaken bhai and Sufi Monk bhai,
i am with the cause but let us keep in mind whatever we say over here does not make any impact on anyone, so convincing part should go from door to door, to each and every city by sending representatives from reformist jamaat. we have to organize seminars and meetings with common bohra folks and make them understand all this issues.
Until this is done nothing can come into action. Physical presence and movement is a must.

TheLiberatedOne
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Re: 1435 the year when Bohras rebel and not pay wajebat

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Unread post by TheLiberatedOne » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:34 am

I have seen that messages that are posted here find their way to people through whatsapp.... you don't need seminars or door-to-door propaganda when you have such a powerful tool in your hand.... copy paste this and send it to all you know... in a day or two, this will become viral!

Bohra spring
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Re: 1435 the year when Bohras rebel and not pay wajebat

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:56 pm

AW I agree with your suggestions but this is a start .

This protest against high unaccounted taxes is a silent, passive non aggressive protest option. This is where we can demonstrate we will protest on our own, no external help or involvement .

But in this case each and everyone who is serious about reforms have to do their part.

Beneficiary is our own pockets.

This is a test of how effective our resistance strategy is. In 60 days we will know how effective this is ? So send messages around. No forced wajebat in 1435.

Let us financially bleed the kothar.

Watch Mandela long walk to freedom, a time comes when silent suffering brings no results.

Mazakyo
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Re: 1435 the year when Bohras rebel and not pay wajebat

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Unread post by Mazakyo » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:01 pm

Sufi monk wrote:zakaat is only wajib only on savings and not on earnings.

so kindly make sure u pay 2.5% only if u think u saved some thing after all your expenses.

Islaam is against jamaakhori and if you think u are not trying to do jamakhoori and also spending money on other causes too then you dont need to pay a penny.


PS - Muffy is no one to collect any thing, he is neither blood related to Muhammed(s) nor any of his family can prove that he is official representative of IMAM.

so giving him money is like throwing money in gutter.
So Sufi jee, SKQ ko zakat dein ya SMS ko ya dono ko nahi ???

Sufi monk
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Re: 1435 the year when Bohras rebel and not pay wajebat

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Unread post by Sufi monk » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:41 pm

Mazakyo wrote:
Sufi monk wrote:zakaat is only wajib only on savings and not on earnings.

so kindly make sure u pay 2.5% only if u think u saved some thing after all your expenses.

Islaam is against jamaakhori and if you think u are not trying to do jamakhoori and also spending money on other causes too then you dont need to pay a penny.


PS - Muffy is no one to collect any thing, he is neither blood related to Muhammed(s) nor any of his family can prove that he is official representative of IMAM.

so giving him money is like throwing money in gutter.
So Sufi jee, SKQ ko zakat dein ya SMS ko ya dono ko nahi ???
dono ko nahi

Allah ni akal di ho to khud gareeb majboor rishtedaar aur musalmaano ko apni akal se dedo.

both SKQ and muffy dont belong to blood line of Muhammed(s) neither they can prove they are official representative of IMAM(s). so they both dont qualify to collect zakaat.

Akhtiar Wahid
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Re: 1435 the year when Bohras rebel and not pay wajebat

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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:24 am

Mazkayo bhai mujhe dede, mein tera bhala kardoonga.....SBUT mein tera ek flat pakka kardoonga!

Mazakyo
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Re: 1435 the year when Bohras rebel and not pay wajebat

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Unread post by Mazakyo » Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:49 pm

Akhtiar Wahid wrote:Mazkayo bhai mujhe dede, mein tera bhala kardoonga.....SBUT mein tera ek flat pakka kardoonga!
Akhtiar Mian ab aap ney bhi kya nai dukan khol li hai ??