Complete nass analysis and solution for bohras

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AbdulSaleh
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Complete nass analysis and solution for bohras

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Unread post by AbdulSaleh » Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:55 am

Salaam,

after careful analysis of both davedaar claims I am presenting complete analysis and solution for bohras to move ahead, lets first talk about both claims of davedaar and how much truth they hold in their claims.

QUTBIS

No doubt qutbi is really smart man and his family are working really hard to convince people about his truthfulness I am personally not convinced by his claims, there are many question about his claims, if he was declared dai by muhammed burhanuddin 50 years back how could he remain silent on different events when momeenin were crushed by different shezadas and different qasre alis? 3 years baack when nass was declared on mufaddal why he didnt raised his voice? he says he didnt wanted to create fitnah but now fitnah is already created, he knew if he will raise his voice he may lose chance of claiming daiship if burhanuddin will again make nass in public or do some thing which will go against him so this is why he remain silent and didnt claimed any thing, but again his team was working behind the curtains and waiting for correct time and waiting for burhanuddins death. charity work which he is trying to show world in not enough at all, he is just running a ambulance scheme which is like uth ke moo menin zeera, nothing substantial is done by him for public in almost all his life, only thing he has done is educating his own family and securing his own life, right now he is showing curtesy to people because he wants to gain public support, but I am preffty sure once he will have good following he will show his true colors.

MUFADDALI

I personally think there are chances that burhanuddin did nass twice, one on his brother and one on his son as well, Cromwell episode is not refuted by Qutbis till now it shows there is some doubts about it and now it seems they are losing plot against mufaddaal, but again thiss mufaddal is not fit foor this job even if his father has done nass on him, he neither has any islamic knowledge or he posses any charm or orating skills like his father, his mistakes and his blunders are coming out almost every day which makes his look joker to the world every other day,he may be having powerful PR team but his personal mistakes will ultimately kill his support sooner or latter, right now he is also trying to safe guard his family by purchasing properties world wide, soon he will show little public appearance and get busy with his ayyash life behind the curtains. he dont have any good successor legitimate successor so again same power tussle will be seen in next few years, soon his brother will start asking for their share in loot and family will divide further. QJ and malikulashtar are already fighting hard to get creame for them self, soon more fights will erupt and reality of this royals will be out.


SOLUTION FOR BOHRAS

I am sorry to say this but bohras now have few option left, it is like aage kuaa and piche khaai, both davedaar are fake and both are behind your money so no matter whome you chose you are not choosing any divine person you are just choosing a simple worldly leader for your self.

best thing for you is to stop contributing more and more money to these lechers and start thinking for your own good and your own family.

do what ever is minimum and avoid getting looted by these chors, dont get involve in any new schemes and make sure your protect your kids from brain washing from these people, learn more about ISLAM by independent sources and start educating your kids more about prophet and panjaten.

sorry but story of bohras have ended now and this sect is in downtrend from here.

Masalaam

james
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Re: Complete nass analysis and solution for bohras

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Unread post by james » Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:58 am

Was your application rejected ?

TheLiberatedOne
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Re: Complete nass analysis and solution for bohras

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Unread post by TheLiberatedOne » Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:03 am

Unwanted and unnecessary analysis....

true islam
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Re: Complete nass analysis and solution for bohras

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Unread post by true islam » Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:37 am

james nobody cares about what you have to say

Qureshi
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Re: Complete nass analysis and solution for bohras

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Unread post by Qureshi » Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:50 am

:cry: reading all this is scary
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james
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Re: Complete nass analysis and solution for bohras

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Unread post by james » Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:52 am

true islam wrote:james nobody cares about what you have to say
Birds of the same feather :

Sufi Monk
Qureshi
true islam
AbdulSaleh

Try harder.

true_bohra
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Re: Complete nass analysis and solution for bohras

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Unread post by true_bohra » Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:59 am

true islam wrote:james nobody cares about what you have to say
At least James's posts are interesting to read than some stupid analysis by Abdul saaleh

Rebel
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Re: Complete nass analysis and solution for bohras

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Unread post by Rebel » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:29 am

Although many bohras are aware that both the MS and KQ are fake but we have to follow one of them and give them or hard earned money to enroll ourselves in their sects or cults. If we decide not to follow these cults the ocean is wide and open for anyone...even the mullahs openly say if you dislike us move out and away from the our community.
We all discuss that the community is doomed but the fact remains all the factions of bohra sects such sulaimani, dawoodi, alvi, are thriving well because there community helps and promotes the leaders blindly - thanks to the zombies. The nascent qubti will also thrive in its own manner and sooner or later both dais will sit and give najwas to each other as a friendly gesture. We have seen many instances that our Dai has met and honored those people who call they there enemies such as Aga Khan, Alvi Bohra Dai and many other Sunni scholars.

AbdulSaleh
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Re: Complete nass analysis and solution for bohras

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Unread post by AbdulSaleh » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:33 am

Rebel wrote:Although many bohras are aware that both the MS and KQ are fake but we have to follow one of them and give them or hard earned money to enroll ourselves in their sects or cults. If we decide not to follow these cults the ocean is wide and open for anyone...even the mullahs openly say if you dislike us move out and away from the our community.
We all discuss that the community is doomed but the fact remains all the factions of bohra sects such sulaimani, dawoodi, alvi, are thriving well because there community helps and promotes the leaders blindly - thanks to the zombies. The nascent qubti will also thrive in its own manner and sooner or later both dais will sit and give najwas to each other as a friendly gesture. We have seen many instances that our Dai has met and honored those people who call they there enemies such as Aga Khan, Alvi Bohra Dai and many other Sunni scholars.
yes absolutely correct and this is why I said it doesnt matters who you follow because both are fake, but if you looking for security concerns chose the one who effects you and your family least, and make sure dont participate in any thing extra and keep low profile, no zyafats or no special najwas to make them happy.

Rebel
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Re: Complete nass analysis and solution for bohras

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Unread post by Rebel » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:45 am

Those who need to be in the system for varied reasons the best bet is follow none but give them yearly dues so you have ejamaat number and card. Kothar only needs money. I have seen people who only come to offer their wajebat, never to be seen after that....as for those who don't like to pay their hard earned money, don't pay wajebat for a few years and hopefully clergy may reduce the amount, I have seen several cases like that....

AbdulSaleh
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Re: Complete nass analysis and solution for bohras

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Unread post by AbdulSaleh » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:51 am

chacha bhatrija is together on this, they have applied century old formula on dumb abdes which is "divide and rule"

but we all together can revert back this formula by not getting fooled by them further.

Rebel
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Re: Complete nass analysis and solution for bohras

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Unread post by Rebel » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:59 am

Yes, correct, we should not be fooled by these clergies any more...education has enlightened our minds and hearts so we can see through their devious methodologies to lure us or buy their illogical ideas and dogmas. Their fallacy of logic does not apply to us anymore - sorry bhaisahibs and mullahs :)