Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by humanbeing » Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:10 am

SBM wrote:BTW about your pictures
If the pictures are genuine and portray what you say then you should not be afraid to make it public unless of course they are doctored. Secrecy is the name of the game for Kotahri Goons and their followers and you are just proving the point by not putting pictures on the open forum but defending the same on open forum, if you cannot provide something in public then you should not have offered to produce in public forum either.
Bro SBM

There can be Tens of pictures where SMS or other shehzada could be standing in line with folded hands and stuff, these pictures are not difficult to take or arrange, for them it’s a fun game like, lets-play-like-commoners-today a simple and cheap publicity stunt.
There are many examples of pompousness of these Kothari royals at raudat tahera, where the whole dargah is closed for VIP visits from any tom and harry of Kothari royal families. Abdes standing in line for hours are suddenly shooed off over such visits and they groan outside over such incidents, but run for deedar for such two penny princes and princesses.

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by true_bohra » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:05 am

I have no problems in showing the pictures but you have to admit that there are some bad elements on this forums.

SBM
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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by SBM » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:16 am

true_bohra wrote:I have no problems in showing the pictures but you have to admit that there are some bad elements on this forums.
Even bad elements in Raudat Tahera too....

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by AliHaq » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:51 am

there was que at raudat tahera even at 3 am?

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by AliHaq » Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:03 am

it is obvious as day light mazoon son wanted to create fitnah they knew such thing will happen and court case may go in their favor, but again it also proves mufaddal is the worst person in this peaceful community and his burhani goondas have now cross all limits.

now bohras have choice to chose lesser evil.

samjhu to samjhu naa samjhu naa samjhu

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by ribbahs » Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:29 am

kHARAS MITHAS------AN APT NAME YOU HAVE CHOSEN FOR YOURSELF.......A TYPICAL FANATIC WHOSE ONLY ONLY AIM LIES IN WHAT THERE FOR THE MENU?????

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by ribbahs » Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:39 am

sbm.....SECOND U ON THAT

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by Invictius » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:17 pm

humanbeing wrote:
SBM wrote:BTW about your pictures
If the pictures are genuine and portray what you say then you should not be afraid to make it public unless of course they are doctored. Secrecy is the name of the game for Kotahri Goons and their followers and you are just proving the point by not putting pictures on the open forum but defending the same on open forum, if you cannot provide something in public then you should not have offered to produce in public forum either.
Bro SBM

There can be Tens of pictures where SMS or other shehzada could be standing in line with folded hands and stuff, these pictures are not difficult to take or arrange, for them it’s a fun game like, lets-play-like-commoners-today a simple and cheap publicity stunt.
There are many examples of pompousness of these Kothari royals at raudat tahera, where the whole dargah is closed for VIP visits from any tom and harry of Kothari royal families. Abdes standing in line for hours are suddenly shooed off over such visits and they groan outside over such incidents, but run for deedar for such two penny princes and princesses.
it is worth noting that KQ would take an hour or even two to do ziyarat sometimes. And what's worse, mumineen would be allowed inside Raudat to watch, but would not be permitted to perform ziyarat even from the other 3 sides. Even if people had to leave urgently and couldn't afford to wait any longer, he would be most inconsiderate. When asked why he took so long, he would say that Syedna Taher Saifuddin had taught him to do such ziyarat. Well that is obviously a massive lie. Even Maula RA would take at max 10-15 minutes to do ziyarat and so would all the other shezadas of Syedna Taher Saifuddin RA. May Allah do justice.

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:53 pm

This SKQ verbal bashing and assaults on his sons indicates when you fallout with SMS ..they go all,out for you.

This is an example of the hardcore excommunication which no one including bloodline is spared.

It is a lesson to other relatives of SMB who may think of revolting to remind the consequences and for the subjects too that if they can punish their cousins and uncles, the mere citizens could not only be excommunicated but worse persecution.

Such severe oppressive behaviours can lead to total oppression like in North Korea or swing to complete chaos as in Iraq and other places where citizens are pushed to the wall and respond with violence. I think we are gradually being pushed to the wall repeatedly.

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:31 pm

Invictius wrote:it is worth noting that KQ would take an hour or even two to do ziyarat sometimes. And what's worse, mumineen would be allowed inside Raudat to watch, but would not be permitted to perform ziyarat even from the other 3 sides.
I totally agree with the above as I have witnessed this myself which was some 2/3 decades ago.

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by Kharas_Mithas » Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:54 pm

ribbahs wrote:kHARAS MITHAS------AN APT NAME YOU HAVE CHOSEN FOR YOURSELF.......A TYPICAL FANATIC WHOSE ONLY ONLY AIM LIES IN WHAT THERE FOR THE MENU?????
Pity on your ability to mis-interpret people. You do not deserve any response.

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:12 pm

hussaimu wrote:@SBM why dont you just mind your own business ???? who has asked you to consider us anything ??? we dont care who you are .. we just dont want our community / religion to be abused by munafiq like u. What happened in Raudat Tahera was nothing .... they were lucky as they managed to escaped....

@tasneempati... kids who were kidnapped by KQ are innocent they dont know whats hapening around... Your KQ kidnapped kids of TAHA BS and IBRAHIM BS..... as far as the adult kids of KQ are concerned they are pillas and will be called pillas....kids of Mufaddal Moula TUS have not betrayed Burhanuddin Moula RA..
Now how do you know that they have not betrayed syedna mohammed burhanuddin moula,
Muffadal manhandled him in waaz, in such a deteriorating condition he use to bring aqa moula (ra) to masjid and display his disability and made him look like an idol, he took advantage of his stroke and when he came to know that his ability to speech is gone they got their trump card, why answer me why answer me why, why in the heaven smb(ra) did not confer nass before his illness. Fitnatis and conspirators like smb(ra) shezadas and syn shezadas and shezadis always manipulated him so that he never declares nass of syedna khuzema qutbuddin saheb.

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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by allbird » Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:04 pm

james wrote:So many have come out of the woodwork!

My sources tell me that Sons of Khuzema along with 20-25 consorts tried to barge in Qubbah Mubarak and were very unruly with mumenaat in Qubbah.Imagine the terror and horror the women would feel when they are faced with 20-30 hooligans at the same time trying to push and shove them. After the initial skirmish,in order to create more fitnat in the month of Sherullah Moazzam and to stop people from doing zyarat and trying hardest to involve them in other activities,Sons of Khuzema went to JJ Police Station and played the "Woe is me" card. He tried to stir more trouble when he came back to Raudat Tahera with Police and with an air of superiority,his consorts tried to jump queue.When other mumineen objected to it,an unruly character named Haider Calcuttawala said some very bad words inside the Raudat and pushed one person and that is when people who were standing in the queue lost their cool and all hell broke loose.If the sons of Khuzema had come with the niyah of zyarat then they wouldn't have been accompanied by a mob of delinquent thugs.They were looking/hoping for a confrontation armed with handycam and taking video inside Raudat when it is clearly not allowed.If the hoodlums wanted to do zyarat,they should have stood in the queue like everyone else.

Why do they keep trying to confront the ladies and harass them ? This has happened before with Habeel Khorakiwala as well when he tried to enter Raudat Tahera via the Ladies Gate and when told not to,abused the mumineen and eventually things boiled over and he registered a false complaint at JJ Police Station.

I looked and re-ran this video few times, and one thing i could not see was a QUEUE of people from 3 angles. If there was ladies and gents separate queue there should be people around. Even the sahen looked empty, Qutbha was 1/4 full near the Turbat. I would say not more then 50-60 people around. And out of that 25-30 were SKQ THUGS, according to you ??? confusing. One video seems like from someones residence balcony handheld mobile or low res CAM device use. I don't now anyone sympathetic towards SKQ lives near Raudat. Bhai James this is propaganda - Gunha che, Juthi Waat. Please check your source again. And to me Bhairavo definitely does not look scared. Police were waiting outside Raudat. They did not escort 3 SKQ kids inside for protection. And i can only see one Halwaldaar outside Raudat Tahera. Is that what you call protection from Police.

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Re: Bohri SMS Duniya

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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:50 pm

allbird wrote:
james wrote:So many have come out of the woodwork!

My sources tell me that Sons of Khuzema along with 20-25 consorts tried to barge in Qubbah Mubarak and were very unruly with mumenaat in Qubbah.Imagine the terror and horror the women would feel when they are faced with 20-30 hooligans at the same time trying to push and shove them. After the initial skirmish,in order to create more fitnat in the month of Sherullah Moazzam and to stop people from doing zyarat and trying hardest to involve them in other activities,Sons of Khuzema went to JJ Police Station and played the "Woe is me" card. He tried to stir more trouble when he came back to Raudat Tahera with Police and with an air of superiority,his consorts tried to jump queue.When other mumineen objected to it,an unruly character named Haider Calcuttawala said some very bad words inside the Raudat and pushed one person and that is when people who were standing in the queue lost their cool and all hell broke loose.If the sons of Khuzema had come with the niyah of zyarat then they wouldn't have been accompanied by a mob of delinquent thugs.They were looking/hoping for a confrontation armed with handycam and taking video inside Raudat when it is clearly not allowed.If the hoodlums wanted to do zyarat,they should have stood in the queue like everyone else.

Why do they keep trying to confront the ladies and harass them ? This has happened before with Habeel Khorakiwala as well when he tried to enter Raudat Tahera via the Ladies Gate and when told not to,abused the mumineen and eventually things boiled over and he registered a false complaint at JJ Police Station.

I looked and re-ran this video few times, and one thing i could not see was a QUEUE of people from 3 angles. If there was ladies and gents separate queue there should be people around. Even the sahen looked empty, Qutbha was 1/4 full near the Turbat. I would say not more then 50-60 people around. And out of that 25-30 were SKQ THUGS, according to you ??? confusing. One video seems like from someones residence balcony handheld mobile or low res CAM device use. I don't now anyone sympathetic towards SKQ lives near Raudat. Bhai James this is propaganda - Gunha che, Juthi Waat. Please check your source again. And to me Bhairavo definitely does not look scared. Police were waiting outside Raudat. They did not escort 3 SKQ kids inside for protection. And i can only see one Halwaldaar outside Raudat Tahera. Is that what you call protection from Police.
Allbird do you know what the real propaganda is........Staging of Nass in Raudat Tahera and falsely declaring the fitnati, conspirator and culprit of Dawat Muffadal as the future Dai.

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by true_bohra » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:38 am

@akhtiar:

I post the same question to you again:

-does KQ have any evidence of nass??

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:40 am

@ TB

I post the same question to you again:

-Does Muffy have any evidence of nass, i mean proper one, not the made up hospital video, Raudat tahera (Mohammed choo Muffadal Choo) and fake diary!

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by silvertongue » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:04 am

Forget evidence, Does he have any quality of being a Dai of Aal E Mohammed?... Anyone pls answer my question honestly/..

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by AliHaq » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:54 am

we dont need to care on whom burhanuddin did nass because he is no one, our concern is with IMAM and this is dawat of Imam and Dai is just a servant.

now who ever wants to become dai first prove he has "connection" and communication with Imam him self.

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by silvertongue » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:01 am

Good point though..

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by zinger » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:33 am

AliHaq wrote:we dont need to care on whom burhanuddin did nass because he is no one, our concern is with IMAM and this is dawat of Imam and Dai is just a servant.

now who ever wants to become dai first prove he has "connection" and communication with Imam him self.
People like you were around when Maulatena Harratul Maleka RA appointed the first Dai to. and you know what people said then? They said we dont need to care what people like you think. The Dai has been appointed in place of the Imam. And while the Imam is in seclusion, the Dai shall represent him.

Now if you dont want to care about the Dai, then we dont care about you. So move on!

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by silvertongue » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:37 am

Hehehe nice one Zinger pal..

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by AliHaq » Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:36 am

zinger wrote:
AliHaq wrote:we dont need to care on whom burhanuddin did nass because he is no one, our concern is with IMAM and this is dawat of Imam and Dai is just a servant.

now who ever wants to become dai first prove he has "connection" and communication with Imam him self.
People like you were around when Maulatena Harratul Maleka RA appointed the first Dai to. and you know what people said then? They said we dont need to care what people like you think. The Dai has been appointed in place of the Imam. And while the Imam is in seclusion, the Dai shall represent him.

Now if you dont want to care about the Dai, then we dont care about you. So move on!
when hurratul malika appointed those dai they were sincere and honest, right now these guys are ayyash, so if they really want to claim dai ship first they should prove "connection" with Imam.

this dawat and misaaq belongs to IMAM and no one else, if these morons cant prove connection with Imam they are void.

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by AliHaq » Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:38 am

for those who are worried about society here is the message.

if some one ask you

why dont you believe in Dai?

first ask them prove them Imam DAI and I will follow them whole heartedly follow them, this answer will shut them once for all. :wink:

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by pheonix » Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:12 am

AliHaq wrote:for those who are worried about society here is the message.

if some one ask you

why dont you believe in Dai?

first ask them prove them Imam DAI and I will follow them whole heartedly follow them, this answer will shut them once for all. :wink:
Has any one asked you this ever?

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by silvertongue » Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:22 am

I know what will be the answer,"Agar etloj problem che to nikli jau hamari community ma si, pan hame to change nai thaiye. Hamara Mola jhem chahe em kare ne hamara mola ni khushi ma haramri khushi che. kem ke e to Zameen na khuda che ne.."

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by AliHaq » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:41 am

pheonix wrote:
AliHaq wrote:for those who are worried about society here is the message.

if some one ask you

why dont you believe in Dai?

first ask them prove them Imam DAI and I will follow them whole heartedly follow them, this answer will shut them once for all. :wink:
Has any one asked you this ever?
yes almost every other day, I also add if some one will prove him self true naib of IMAM(s), I will write all my property on his name and also life long service in his khidmat. (still waiting for such a person)

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by pheonix » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:28 pm

AliHaq wrote:
pheonix wrote: Has any one asked you this ever?
yes almost every other day, I also add if some one will prove him self true naib of IMAM(s), I will write all my property on his name and also life long service in his khidmat. (still waiting for such a person)
Ok. if someone ask you that next time, please ask him to mind his own business.

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by zinger » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:18 am

Anajmi often claims to be the Imam. Please will your property to him and kindly move on

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by rational_guy » Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:15 am

Has SHz Muffadal Saifuddin condemned the attacks of 4th July in his last waaz or public appearance??

His silence is condoning the actions of Burhani Guards and Jihadis

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Re: Qutbuddin's sons assaulted by Burhani Guards

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Unread post by MMH » Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:12 pm

rational_guy wrote:Has SHz Muffadal Saifuddin condemned the attacks of 4th July in his last public appearance??

His silence is condoning the actions of Burhani Guards and Jihadis


On the contrary, if you attended the waaz today he was making rebukes and provoking people to give laanats in this holy month. I heard the laanats 3 times...!!!