So, friend anajmi is claiming that we should pick the quickest to understand explanation of god and religion and stick to it. Otherwise we will have to spend years in study and contemplation. An argument from ignorance. In fact, it is very presumptuous of him to think that Allah is so simple that one can understand Him in a few sentences or easy syllogisms. Seems very unrealistic, but of course, appealing to those who do not want to enact the labor to think and study. A way out for the lazy.
Assuming bro biradar didn't take the lazy way out to understand God, and spent years in study and contemplation, what was the result of his study?
Incidentally, I should admit that even the Ismaili "proofs" for existence of god are very weak and along the lines of naive creationism. However, these Ismaili authors wrote at a time when god was needed as an explanation for creation and other things which we could not understand and explain. This creationist position has become less tenable today, and one needs to rethink the fundamental assumptions from 1000 years ago in light of modern science and philosophy.
In short, the brother spent years in study and contemplation trying to understand Allah and concluded that there is no Allah. Time well spent, I guess?
Reminds me of this dialogue from the movie Jurassic Park. This happens when the group first sees the dinosaurs.
Jeff Goldblum : God creates dinosaurs, God destroys dinosaurs, God creates Man, Man destroys God, Man creates dinosaurs.
Laura Linney responds - Dinosaur eats Man, Woman inherits the earth.
If God didn't create Man, then that means that Man created God. And Man created religion. Every prophet is a liar Ismaili Metaphysics is a bunch of hokey pokey bull and all the Imams and Dais are liars. Which means that they knew there is no God and yet chose to fool man. So what is science going to achieve in any case? Is it going to prove God doesn't exist? How? People who chose to become prophets, already knew he doesn't exist. They didn't need science. People believe in God, because it gives them hope. They think that at the end of the tunnel, there is payback and reward. If science proves that there isn't, do you think that is good or bad?
Two scenarios. Let us say that everything that has happened because of religion to mankind is bad. But since we are assuming for the sake of this discussion that there is no God, these problems are actually the creation of Man. Man created religion, Man created science. Hence all the problems are because of Man. If man sees that religion is advantageous to his own self, do you think science is going to stop him? No. He already knows God doesn't exist. He doesn't need science to tell him that. He just needs people who desire more than what they have. And that is about 99% of mankind. Religion makes that promise and science takes it away. So who is going to give a shit about science?
Second scenario. Let us say that everything good that has happened to mankind is because of religion. Then who will give a shit about what science proves? Either way, what science or scientists say, doesn't matter.
So, is there a God? Well, the simple answer is, there is if you believe in Him and there isn't if you don't.