Exposes Barbaric Saudi Regime

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Re: Exposes Barbaric Saudi Regime

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Unread post by KA786110 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:36 am

There was no need to use 'Almighty' in the above satire.
This misguided non-scholar has run back to his true masters.



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Unread post by anajmi » Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:05 am

And only one post back the half chaddi supporter was claiming that the government was protecting his house and office. This is the same government that watched from the sidelines during the riots when muslims were being massacred. Zakir Naik isn't misguided. He speaks the truth and you guys can't handle the truth.

The use of Almighty in that picture implies it was created by a non Muslim and our half chaddi happily posts it.



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Unread post by KA786110 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:31 pm

... isn't misguided. He speaks the truth ...
So gullible.



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#64

Unread post by anajmi » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:43 pm

That was a brilliant response. I am glad i don't have to deal with actual intellectuals!!



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Unread post by KA786110 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:55 pm

Had to bring it to your level. I always make sure that my responses are so that you are able to fathom ... :P



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Unread post by anajmi » Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:14 pm

Why do you guys even respond if you have nothing intelligent to say? A good response would've been one where you point out where Zakir Naik is speaking that which is not true. But that would be asking for too much from you jaahils. It's a pity I have to spell all this out. Tells you the kind of extreme ignorance that I have to deal with here on this board. A better question is - why do I keep responding to you jaahils?



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#67

Unread post by KA786110 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:24 pm

Why should I repeat the obvious over and over. But since your memory is so shot, please go over the thread titled "for zakir naik fans".
And gloat over the 'karnaamas' of your un-scholarly scholar.



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Unread post by anajmi » Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:27 pm

Thank you for proving me right.



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#69

Unread post by KA786110 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:44 pm

Very illogical, your conclusion is. No wonder you have been duped by these silver-tongued demagogues.



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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:00 am

anajmi wrote: This is the same government that watched from the sidelines during the riots when muslims were being massacred. Zakir Naik isn't misguided.
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that was very logical think to do.
what do u expect?
to save them?
for what?
to again fight war with them to convert it and form 57th land?
only dumbhead people will do that which u think whole world is except salafist.
but wait hey-- u think 2+2 =3 or 6 and need non muslims to teach u it 4



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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:04 am

anajmi wrote: Zakir Naik isn't misguided. He speaks the truth
he condoned suicide bombings, which isis are doing as they are fighting terrorist american state,
but u stated they are deviant criminals.
contradicting ur own statement?
no wonder u need people to teach u 2+2 =4.



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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:16 am

anajmi wrote: A good response would've been one where you point out where Zakir Naik is speaking that which is not true. . A better question is - why do I keep responding to you jaahils?
he says we should not wish our colleagues on 25 december -merry christmas--as that would be implying we beleive jesus was born on
that day and he is begotten sun of allah-which is shirq and as shirq is unpardonable sin we would go to hell-but it is ok to beat wife with toothbrush if she is disobedient. what if husband is disobedient --can she beat her with belan? is it written in his burqa cloud quran.
he says PBUH after yazid. was he according to u rightly guided caliph. i have heared salafist claim it is reserved only for 4 rightly guided caliph. he says yazids jannah was guaranteed by prophet in one of his hadeeth where he says one who fights romans, jannah is guaranteed.
do u beleive this or is he speaking untrue?
another great scholar tahir ul qadri has refuted his sayings giving correct example of hadeeth.
which one u beleive?

and yes u keep responding coz u want to learn 2+2 =4



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#73

Unread post by anajmi » Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:26 am

25th December - zakir Naik is right.
About the wife and toothbrush - zakir Naik is right. Go read the Quran. Beating the wife is only in circumstances that have been spelled out in the Quran. There is a beautiful video from Nauman Ali Khan explaining this. If interested go look for it on youtube, but I know for sure you won't cause you half chaddis are not looking for the truth. Beating is only for wives for whom you fear that are disloyal as in not guarding their chastity, as in sleeping around. You are not allowed to beat your wife cause there is more salt in your food. That is the reason you don't find any instance in the seerah of the prophet(saw) of him having beaten any of his wives. As far as hitting the husband with the belan is concerned, there is no mention of it so it cannot be claimed to be haraam. That is one excuse you won't have when your wife beats you with it.
PBUH (saw - sallallhu alai hi wasallam) is reserved only for the prophet (saw) and I am talking only about the Arabic version. English you can say it for anyone. For other prophets we say (as - alai hi assalaam) and for every one else we say (ra- radiallahu anhum or anhuma or anha ) Zakir Naik (ra) said (ra) for Yazid.

By the way Muslim idolaters hate even the first 3 Khalifa so they object even to the (ra) that is added after the first three Khalifas but after the beating they got they prefer not to raise too much noise about that.

Please post a link to tahir ul qadris video or book.
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#74

Unread post by anajmi » Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:36 am

By the way Zakir Naik has hundreds of videos and many hundreds of hours of recording's available for free. Is that the best you geniuses could do?



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Unread post by anajmi » Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:46 am

he condoned suicide bombings, which isis are doing as they are fighting terrorist american state,
Now that is an example of how to lie. That is an example of how to make 2+2 = 5.

Time and again Zakir Naik says that killing innocents in Islam is haraam. He also says that muslims shouldn't refer to ISIS as ISIS because they are not Islamic. They are anti-islamic. I have posted his video explaining that. Zakir Naik (ra) has rightly claimed that people are using his sentences out of context and making him look like he supports terrorism. For example, in one video he explains that the police strike terror in the hearts of the criminals hence for the criminals the police are the terrorists. All muslims should become terrorists who strike fear in the hearts of the criminals. However half chaddis and their supporters took just "All muslims should become terrorists " out of context. And half chaddi wearing fools are now running around claiming he supports terrorism. Same is the case with suicide bombing.



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#76

Unread post by anajmi » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:07 pm

that was very logical think to do.
what do u expect?
to save them?
for what?
So when you said that they were protecting Zakir Naik's home and office, you were lying right?

See, that is how you prove someone is a liar. It doesn't take a lot of work. It is very easy to catch someone who is a liar.



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#77

Unread post by anajmi » Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:26 pm

and yes u keep responding coz u want to learn 2+2 =4
Learn from you? Seriously? Weren't you the one who said that bikini was hijab according to the Quran?



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Unread post by anajmi » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:36 pm

25th December
A little ibit more about the 25th of december and christmas. This is for those who are still confused. This is not for the half chaddis cause they are a lost cause.

Pretty every one on earth knows that 25th December is not actually the birth date of Jesus Christ. There is tons of information about this on the internet. 25th December was chosen to appease pagans and to convert them to christianity. As a result, 25th december became an integral part of Christianity and no one even remembers now when Jesus Christ was actually born. It would be like celebrating Eid on Diwali to convert the Hindus into Muslims and then forgetting when Eid was actually supposed to be.

It is only through the untiring efforts of people like Zakir Naik, Israr Ahmed (ra) and others that we have managed to keep Islam in its pure form as it was during the times of the prophet(saw), by making sure that we do not compromise on Islamic values to appease humans. Consider the bohra version of Islam where the bohras are doing sajda to their Dai and are even seen with folded hands standing in front of Hindu idols and even their own bohra idols to appease hindu and bohra leaders!!!



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Unread post by KA786110 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:36 pm

Getting back to the subject of this thread.

A succinct summary of the vile nature of the kingdom:

http://original.antiwar.com/chris_ernes ... unnoticed/

Most people on this forum already know it but it could help someone understand it. :wink:



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Unread post by anajmi » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:22 am

Thank you for pointing out the hypocrisy of the west. They don't give a shit about the people. As long as a dictatorship is beneficial to the Americans they will protect it and keep it in place.



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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:50 am

anajmi wrote:
25th December
A little ibit more about the 25th of december and christmas.
hey dude look who is speaking out of context
every muslim knows jesus was not born on 25 december.
i was talking about greeting to ur colleagues, which would lead them to hell.



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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:53 am

anajmi wrote:
and yes u keep responding coz u want to learn 2+2 =4
Learn from you? Seriously? Weren't you the one who said that bikini was hijab according to the Quran?
yes that is correct if u read it critically, but for burqa shrouded like thrash bag interpretation it is not
same like saying 2+2=5.
so u have to learn it bro



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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:55 am

anajmi wrote:
that was very logical think to do.
what do u expect?
to save them?
for what?
So when you said that they were protecting Zakir Naik's home and office, you were lying right?

See, that is how you prove someone is a liar. It doesn't take a lot of work. It is very easy to catch someone who is a liar.
becoz somehow indian state works according to the constitution(howerver faulty it may be) and not according to wahabis shariat.
but u wont understand coz u dont beleive in democracy and secular state so no need to explain



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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:59 am

anajmi wrote:
he condoned suicide bombings, which isis are doing as they are fighting terrorist american state,
Now that is an example of how to lie. That is an example of how to make 2+2 = 5.

Time and again Zakir Naik says that killing innocents in Islam is haraam. He also says that muslims shouldn't refer to ISIS as ISIS because they are not Islamic. They are anti-islamic. I have posted his video explaining that. Zakir Naik (ra) has rightly claimed that people are using his sentences out of context and making him look like he supports terrorism. For example, in one video he explains that the police strike terror in the hearts of the criminals hence for the criminals the police are the terrorists. All muslims should become terrorists who strike fear in the hearts of the criminals. However half chaddis and their supporters took just "All muslims should become terrorists " out of context. And half chaddi wearing fools are now running around claiming he supports terrorism. Same is the case with suicide bombing.
he has already clarified that suicide bombing is permissible as an act of war.
and isis has already declared war against non muslim and islamic caliphate.
guess for ur burqa shrouded definition war is something else which is only fought on camels?
this is what i call 2+2=5



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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:02 am

anajmi wrote:By the way Zakir Naik has hundreds of videos and many hundreds of hours of recording's available for free. Is that the best you geniuses could do?
yes there are hunderd of videos and i have seen much of it.
no problem where he only talks of islam and how it is best religion and so and so.
problem comes only when he goes to extreme and takes verbatim meaning and distorts quran and hadith, which itself is distorted.



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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:12 am

anajmi wrote:25th December - zakir Naik is right.
About the wife and toothbrush - zakir Naik is right. Go read the Quran. Beating the wife is only in circumstances that have been spelled out in the Quran. There is a beautiful video from Nauman Ali Khan explaining this. If interested go look for it on youtube, but I know for sure you won't cause you half chaddis are not looking for the truth. Beating is only for wives for whom you fear that are disloyal as in not guarding their chastity, as in sleeping around.
PBUH (saw - sallallhu alai hi wasallam) is reserved only for the prophet (saw) and I am talking only about the Arabic version. English you can say it for anyone. For other prophets we say (as - alai hi assalaam) and for every one else we say (ra- radiallahu anhum or anhuma or anha ) Zakir Naik (ra) said (ra) for Yazid.



Please post a link to tahir ul qadris video or book.
if wife sleeps around?
what if husband sleeps around?
disloyal?
so beating will make her loyal?
if husband sleeps around, would it be considered disloyal or would be considered permissible sex with bondmaid ?
well that means quran condones live in relationship as practised now.
isis are already having sex slaves and they have codified instructions also on how to go about it.
but according to u they are not muslims or are they?

as for nauman ali -i have seen it--same as ZN--both are bullshit

as for tahir ul qadri--just go and search where he clearly refuted ZN invented hadith that prophet had said whoever fights romans
will go to heaven. actually correct hadith is whoever is in first batch to fight romans will go to heaven. and yazid was in eighth.
he has clearly insulted propeht by saying he took revenge of badr.
is this not blashpehmy? still ra after him.



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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:23 am

anajmi wrote:25th December - zakir Naik is right.
About the wife and toothbrush - zakir Naik is right. Go read the Quran. Beating the wife is only in circumstances that have been spelled out in the Quran. There is a beautiful video from Nauman Ali Khan explaining this. If interested go look for it on youtube, but I know for sure you won't cause you half chaddis are not looking for the truth. Beating is only for wives for whom you fear that are disloyal as in not guarding their chastity, as in sleeping around.

Please post a link to tahir ul qadris video or book.
disloyal?
that is very ambigous and ridiculous terrm.
who defines what is disloyal? husband or wife?
or depends upon the whims of husband?
if she talks to gair mard, is that disloyal?
what if husband talks to another women disapproved by wife?
will it be disloyal? but nothing is said about it in quran as per u so either wife can beat or husband can do whatever he wants.
coz both are allowed according to u--both are not haraam as nothing is said.

i have heared nauman and ZN both justifying prophets marraige to nine year old as saying it was done at that time according to prevalent
arabic tradition at that point of time and was very common and no one took objection to it--though correct justification---why not apply
same to other tradition also--selectively applying and calling it as a word of god?
that is what burqa shrouded interpretation



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Unread post by Conscíous » Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:09 pm

Saudi Giving Israeli Normalization Free Of Charge: Nasrallah



Hezbollah Secretary General Seyyed Hassan Nasrallah has censured Saudi Arabia for a recent visit to Israel by a delegation headed by a former military general.

Nasrallah said on Friday that the Riyadh regime gives the normalization of its ties with Israel “free of charge” and “without any benefits for Palestinians.”

“Saudi Arabia is setting a dangerous example for other nations in establishing ties with Israel,”
he added.
The Hezbollah secretary general went on to say that any Saudi-Israeli relations will be followed by the Arab kingdom’s recognition of the Israeli regime.

Anwar Eshki, the former Saudi military general, and other Saudis made the visit last week during which they met a senior Israeli foreign ministry official and a number of Knesset members.

Eshki, who currently heads the Saudi Institute for Strategic Studies, met Israel’s foreign ministry director general, Dore Gold and Yoav Mordechai, who coordinates the Israeli regime’s activities in the occupied Palestinian territories.

Saudi Arabia and Israel have no official relations and the kingdom prohibits its citizens from traveling to Israel. However, there has been no dearth of news about a rise in engagement between the two sides under the new Saudi rulers.

The Hezbollah leader also expressed regret that the issue of Palestine “has become a trivial matter among some Arab nations in recent years.”


Nasrallah was speaking during a ceremony to commemorate Ismail Ahmad Zahri, a commander of the resistance movement who passed away last week due to an illness.

He said Zahri represents the first generation of fighters who joined the resistance movement.

“Zahri was one of the commanders who contributed greatly to Lebanon’s victory against Israel in the war of 2006,” Nasrallah said, adding that he “never neglected his duties despite suffering from illness.”
Nasrallah said that the resistance movement is “certain about victory with such devoted commanders as Zahri.”

Elsewhere in his remarks, the Hezbollah leader slammed the Riyadh regime for its support of terrorism and waging a deadly war against impoverished Yemen since March last year.

More than 9,400 people, including many civilians, have been killed and at least 16,000 others injured since the onset of the aggression.

Nasrallah also condemned the Arab kingdom for supporting Bahrain in its heavy-handed crackdown on Bahrain’s Shia community.

Since February 14, 2011, thousands of anti-regime protesters have held numerous demonstrations in Bahrain on an almost daily basis, calling on the Al Khalifah rulers to relinquish power.

http://goo.gl/uBLI7q



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Unread post by Conscíous » Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:52 pm

Saudi Arabia Offers Russia Economic Incentives to Drop Assad


Kremlin Press Service

Saudi Arabia will offer Russia access to the Gulf Cooperation Council Market and regional investment funds if it ends its support for the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad, the Kingdom’s Foreign Minister Adel Al-Jubeir said in an interview with the Politico.eu news website.

Russia’s military intervention in Syria began in September last year, purportedly to fight the Islamic State, but many analysts have seen it as a way to prop up Assad's government by mostly attacking groups opposed to the regime.

Saudi Arabia provides financial and military support to several rebel groups in Syria and has long proposed a handover of power or the forcible removal of Assad.

Saudi Arabia, according to Al-Jubeir, can offer Russia a foothold in the Middle East if a compromise can be found on the Syria conflict.

“We are ready to give Russia a stake in the Middle East that will make Russia a force stronger than the Soviet Union” with access to a pool of investment “greater than China’s," he said.

“It would be reasonable for Russia to say, that’s where our relations will advance our interests, not with Assad. We don’t disagree on the end game in Syria but how to get there," he claimed.

“Assad’s days are numbered," he said, “so make a deal while you can.”

The Islamic State is a terrorist organization banned in Russia.

https://themoscowtimes.com/news/saudi-a ... port-54705



Nasrallah today on Saudi Arabia's offering Russia a large share of power in the region if it abandons Assad #Syria :lol:

https://twitter.com/walid970721/status/ ... 5072931840

Hezbollah Leader says Saudi Arabia's Wahhabi culture behind world terrorism - English Subs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbpGDItZ00A



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Unread post by Conscíous » Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:04 pm

From religion to politics, Saudi Arabia feeling chill of isolation

At the end of August, a meeting of Muslim clerics and scholars convened in the Chechen capital of Grozny to forge a consensus on the subject of ‘who constitutes a Sunni.’
Sunnism, the 200 or so Sunni clerics from Egypt, South Africa, India, Europe, Turkey, Jordan, Yemen, Russia warned, “has undergone a dangerous deformation in the wake of efforts by extremists to void its sense in order to take it over and reduce it to their perception.”

The Muslim world is currently under a siege of terror, led by a deviant strain that claims religious authority and kills in the name of Islam. So the Grozny participants had gathered, by invitation of the Chechen president, to make “a radical change in order to re-establish the true meaning of Sunnism.”

If their final communique was any indicator, the group of distinguished scholars had a very particular message for the Muslim world: Wahhabism - and its associated takfirism - are no longer welcome within the Sunni fold.

Specifically, the conference’s closing statement says this: “Ash’arites and the Maturidi are the people of Sunnism and those who belong to the Sunni community, both at the level of the doctrine and of the four schools of Sunni jurisprudence (Hanafi, Hanbali, Shafi’i, Maliki), as well as Sufis, both in terms of knowledge and moral ethics."

In one fell swoop, Wahhabism, the official state religion of only two Muslim countries -Saudi Arabia and Qatar - was not part of the majority Muslim agenda any longer.

The backlash from the Saudis came hard and fast, honing in on the participation of Egypt’s Grand Imam Ahmed al-Tayeb of Al Azhar, the foremost center for Sunni theological study in the Islamic world.

Saudi Arabia has, after all, subsidized the flailing Egyptian economy to the tune of billions of dollars in the past few years, alongside its Wahhabi neighbor Qatar, which has in turn bank-rolled the Muslim Brotherhood – a group also excluded from the Grozny meeting.

While Tayeb did not single out the Saudis in his conference speech, his elevated position in the global Sunni hierarchy lent a great deal of weight to the proceedings. And Al Azhar’s prominence in the Sunni world is rivaled only by the relatively new role of the Al Saud monarch as the custodian of the two holy sites, Mecca and Medina.

Just last year – in Mecca, no less - Tayeb slammed extremist trends during a speech on terrorism, lashing out at “corrupt interpretations” of religious texts and appealing to believers “to tackle in our schools and universities this tendency to accuse Muslims of being unbelievers.”

It is Wahhabism that is most often accused of sponsoring this trend globally.

The radical sect, borne in the 18thcentury, deviates from traditional Sunni doctrine in various ways, most notably sanctioning violence against nonbelievers - including Muslims who reject Wahhabi interpretation (takfirism).

Saudi Arabia is the single largest state contributor to tens of thousands of Wahhabi-influenced mosques, schools, clerics and Islamic publications scattered throughout the Muslim world – many of them, today, feeders for terrorist recruitment. By some accounts that figure has reached almost $100 billion in the last three decades or so.

In Grozny, conference participants made reference to this dangerous trend, and called for a “return to the schools of great knowledge" outside Saudi Arabia – in Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia and Yemen.

Saudi officialdom took to social media to express their outrage. Saudi royal, Prince Khalid al-Saud, warned that the event represented “a conspiracy that openly targets our country and it's religious standing, specifically.”



And Adil al-Kalbani, the imam of Riyadh’s King Khaled Bin Abdulaziz mosque, ominously cautioned: “The Chechen conference should serve as a wake-up call: the world is getting ready to burn us.”



For the Saudis, the bad news kept on coming. On Friday, at the start of the annual 5-day Hajj pilgrimage, Lebanese daily Al Akhbar published online a shocking database from the Saudi Ministry of Health.

The leaked documents list, in painstaking detail, the names of 90,000 pilgrims from around the world who have died visiting Mecca over a 14-year period. If there was ever any question about the authority of the Saudi king as “custodian” of Islamic holy sites, this revelation should have opened those floodgates.

But even before these documents became public, calls for the Saudis to relinquish their administration of the Hajj were coming from Iran and elsewhere. Exactly one year ago, a stampede in Mina became the deadliest disaster in the history of the Hajj. Instead of tending to the dead and wounded as their utmost priority, the Saudi authorities went into lock down - concealing casualties, downplaying the death toll, blocking international efforts to investigate, forcing Hajj families to pay for the retrieval of bodies, denying wrongdoing and refusing to apologize for the disaster.

According to official Saudi government figures at the time, the total casualty toll stood at 769 dead and 934 injured. The leaked database now shows those numbers to be false. According to the Ministry of Health’s own statistics, the Mina death toll was in reality more than 10 times higher, with over 7,000 killed.

Iranians, who appeared initially to have suffered disproportionate losses – including from the collapse of a crane 12 days earlier at the Grand Mosque in Mecca where 107 died - lost around 500 citizens. Included in that number was senior foreign ministry official, Dr. Ghazanfar Roknabadi, Iran’s former ambassador to Lebanon and a key figure in regional geopolitical affairs. Saudi authorities initially denied he was even in the country and then took months to identify and repatriate his body.

But most disturbing of all was the manner in which the Saudis treated the dead and injured. Pictures that emerged from Mina in the aftermath of the disaster showed authorities shoveling up bodies in digger-like vehicles, then dumping them in piles as if they were sacks of sand. There appeared to be no care taken to even ascertain whether the victims were dead or alive.

The Iranians were justifiably outraged, but the Saudis politicized that reaction and turned it into an affront to Sunni authority by a Shia authority in Tehran. The Al Akhbar stats, however, tell another story. It was mostly Sunnis who were killed in Mina – from Egypt, Pakistan, Indonesia and other countries – with victims from some states surpassing even the Iranian death toll.

One year on, Iran is not letting this issue lie. The Iranians have boycotted the Hajj this year, claiming that Saudi Arabia was unprepared to assure them of basic security requirements during lengthy negotiations between the two nations.

In his most confrontational address to the Saudi state yet, Iran’s Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei last week – during his annual Hajj message – railed against the injustice:

“The heartless and murderous Saudis locked up the injured with the dead in containers — instead of providing medical treatment and helping them or at least quenching their thirst. They murdered them…Because of these rulers’ oppressive behavior towards God’s guests, the world of Islam must fundamentally reconsider the management of the two holy places and the issue of hajj.”

And then Khamenei went to the heart of the matter: “The fitna-promoting rulers who by forming and arming wicked takfiri groups, have plunged the world of Islam into civil wars, murdering and injuring the innocent and shed blood in Yemen, Iraq, the Levant, Libya and other countries.”

In one short month, the Saudis have been challenged by Islam’s two mainstream sects – by the Sunni and by the Shia, equally – striking out at the religious authority claimed by the Saudi state and challenging the destructive, divisive, violent sectarianism of their Wahhabi faith.

Geopolitical losses

As if to prove Khamenei’s point – and the Grozny consensus - Saudi Arabia’s Grand Mufti Abdulaziz Al Sheikh shot back, describing Iranian leaders as nonbelievers: "We have to understand that they are not Muslims. ... Their main enemies are the followers of Sunnah (Sunnis).”

People inspect damage at a house after it was destroyed by a Saudi-led air strike in Yemen's capital Sanaa, February 25, 2016. © Mohamed al-Sayaghi
‘Saudi violence in Yemen can’t be ignored any longer’
But, with that last sectarian sling, it seems the Saudis may have finally hit their limit. Within days of his statement, citing “health reasons,” the Mufti was removed from delivering the Hajj sermon he has delivered for 35 years straight.

Why stop now? It isn’t like the Saudis don’t have the appetite for a fight with the Iranians.

That fight has been playing out throughout the Middle East and beyond, in various battlefields and media outlets, to the detriment of millions.

What may have started off as Riyadh’s desire to thwart the success of a populist Islamist revolution that dethroned a neighboring king – Iran, circa 1979 – has spiraled into an existential Saudi battle to claw onto hegemony and legitimacy in every sphere.

The Saudis have long lost the ability to engage in cold, hard calculation, and have thrown themselves headfirst into ‘winning by all means.’ This has meant releasing the demons of takfirism throughout the Middle East and North Africa. Wahhabi funded and enabled jihadi foot soldiers have sprung up in Syria, Iraq, Yemen and any other place where Saudis and their fellow co-religionists/ideologues have sought out hegemonic interests.

And the lack of coherent strategy has drawn the Saudis into a number of unnecessary quagmires that have now encircled their borders (Iraq, Bahrain, Yemen), wiped out their strategic depth and emptied the state coffers.

What was meant to be a swift aerial blow to Yemeni rebels for daring to defy Saudi authority, has morphed into an entrenched, 18-month-long, money-pit of a war, with 10,000-plus deaths, war crimes accusations, proliferation of jihadist terror and enemy encroachment into Saudi territory.

Riyadh’s leading role in the destabilization of Syria and Iraq has unleashed sectarian mass murder that has gutted the Muslim world, unmasked Saudi complicity, and galvanized its adversaries into historic cooperation.

These wars have drawn in powerful benefactors like Russia and China as buffers against Saudi overreach, and has reshuffled the balance of power in the region – against Saudi interests.

All of which has chipped away at Saudi political, economic and religious clout on the international stage.

In 2010, Saudi Arabia was crossing borders peacefully as a power-broker, working with Iran, Syria, Turkey, Qatar and others to troubleshoot in regional hotspots. By 2016, it had buried two kings, shrugged off a measured approach to foreign policy, embraced takfiri madness and emptied its coffers.

The hundreds of thousands dead in the wake of this ‘Saudi madness’ are mostly Muslim and mostly Sunni. As the Muslim world wakes up to this atrocious state of affairs, like the Sunni scholars of Grozny, they will not look to censure Tehran, but to disengage with Riyadh.

And to write the final chapter on an aberrant sect called Wahhabism.

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