Non-muslims on Islam

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Nobigotry
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Non-muslims on Islam

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Unread post by Nobigotry » Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:59 pm

Can anyone find any non-Muslim sites praising Islam? Our resident mullah is now bombarding us with articles from a Muslim site. Muslim or not, I will be the first to admit that Muslim sites are never going to publish anything remotely critical of Islam today - in fact no webmaster is going to court disaster by publishing any fair critique. If your life is threatened for simply letting kids name their teddy bear Muhammad, Allah alone knows what the consequences would be for the publisher that chose to publish anything that opposed the Wahhabi views.

porus
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Unread post by porus » Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:58 pm

Leaving aside Muslim degenerates like Muslim First and anajmi, who busy themselves in labelling others as Kafirs and non-Muslims, what have present day Muslims to offer non-Muslims which would make them want to praise Islam or Muslims?

Let us start with some universal values which even Quran has identified:

Justice: Does Islam treat Muslims the same non-Musims? Would non-Muslims praise Jizya and the concept of Dhimmi?

Respect for other religions: Which non-Muslim would praise destruction of Bamiyan Buddha or prohibition of the practice of his religion in Saudi Arabia, and if they have it their way, in Pakistan and Afghanistan?

Gender equality: Which non-Muslim would praise Islam for the religious police in Saudi Arabia for letting little girls getting burnt to death rather then be seen by men without their bodies being covered?

Brotherhood: Which non-Muslim would praise the likes of Muslim First and anajmi, who are dedicated to destruction of brotherhood among Muslims, let alone between Muslims and non-Muslims? And for all inter-necine bloodbath raging amongst Muslims?

Which non-Muslim would praise Muslims for bowing to Makka five times a day, with one eye on Muslims of different persuasions to indulge in hate-mongering amongst their own co-religionists?

What have Muslims to offer in Science or Technology to the modern world?

What about the mythical golden age of Islam, the city state of Madina at the time of Prophet? What great works of art, literature (apart from Quran), philosophy came out of that period?

All other 'golden ages' of Islam, the Fatimid, the Abbasid, the Moghul and the Andalusian benefitted from interactions with non-Muslim thought, faraay from the cradle that was Madina.

In fact, all the great jurists and hadith collectors of Islam were non-Arabs, initially steeped in other religions.

So, we are left with Quran? With majority of Muslims opposed to Wahhabi interpretation, the only one claiming to represent Islam, but unable to voice their opinion in 'Islam', who can praise Muslims?

Now the latest extreme reaction that is doing the rounds? An innocent incident letting children name a teddy bear Muhammad is made out to be an insult to Prophet of Islam. Any one standing up to praise Muslims and Islam for that?

Apologists will say it is not Islam, it is Muslims that are at fault? But why would non-Muslims import an ideology which produces degenerates?

Nobigotry
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Unread post by Nobigotry » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:07 pm

Apologists will say it is not Islam, it is Muslims that are at fault?
Echoes of George Bernard Shaw here!

Over the weekend they had a Peace Conference in India where a host of "respected" speakers from "all over the world" were present. One of the speakers was eminently sensible even by modern standards. One of his laments was that you hear non-Hindus quoting Gandhi and non-Jews quoting Moses but not any non-Muslim quoting the Prophet (SAWS)Why? Because we are quick to label everything blasphemy? Because we convey Islam as an uncivilised faith? Because we expend all our energies fighting each other rather than publicising the jewels that are in the quran and Rasulillah's teachings?

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Unread post by anajmi » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:49 pm

You guys are so right. The kafirs and the Ismailis should learn a few things and stop their hate mongering towards wahhabis and salafis.

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Unread post by anajmi » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:56 pm

As far as the teddy bear is concerned, it is absolutely wrong to name him Mohammed. Try naming the teddy bear "dad" or "mom" and see what happens. How about naming the teddy bear "Aga Khan" or even better "His Highness the Aga Khan". How about naming him "Syedna Burhanuddin"? Or you can call him "Maula Ali".? The only way non-muslims are going to praise muslims is if you become like them - non-muslims. porus is a prime example of that kind of thought. There is no need to please the non-muslims. Read the quran, it makes it pretty clear that no matter what you do, the non-muslims will not be pleased with you till you give up your beliefs and become one of them.

The only hate mongers over here are the kafirs and the Ismailis.

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Unread post by anajmi » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:16 pm

Besides, remember what Bush has said about Islam? That Islam is a religion of peace that has been hijacked by some extremists whom he plans to kill and spread freedom and democracy across the muslim world. And he has sacrificed your tax dollars and American lives to do that. Who cares about web sites!!

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Unread post by Nobigotry » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:26 pm

JAK - may your politics make good pillow talk with the 72!

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Unread post by porus » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:56 pm

Originally posted by anajmi:
How about naming the teddy bear "Aga Khan" or even better "His Highness the Aga Khan". How about naming him "Syedna Burhanuddin"? Or you can call him "Maula Ali".? The only way non-muslims are going to praise muslims is if you become like them - non-muslims.
Another degenerate logic!

Muhammad is the most common name among Muslims. Children chose it and no Muslim, except a degenerate would object. They did not name him Sayedna Muhammad (pbuh). Maula Ali and Aga Khan are not Muslim common names.

No one is asking Muslims to behave to please non-Muslims. At least they should demonstrate the universal human values that Islam espouses and are the cornerstone of Quran. Not that a degenerate would understand those values even after reading its Wahhabi translation.

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Unread post by anajmi » Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:06 pm

porus,

Please stop responding to my degenerate logic by more of your own. Muhammed is a common muslim name for humans and not teddy bears, or didn't you know the difference?

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Unread post by porus » Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:34 pm

Despite claiming to have fathered a child, anajmi has no idea what toy dolls mean to children? They invest them with 'human' personalities even if they are dolls of animals. And they give them human names. Now what does a bear in the wild name its young teddy? :p

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Unread post by anajmi » Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:50 pm

porus!!

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Unread post by pardesi » Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:04 am

Anajmi, please stop dodging and jumping from one place to another. The little kids named the bear "Mohammad" and not "Prophet Mohammad" because it was a popular name in the class. The kids had no idea it would swell up to be this big and eventually they will lose a good teacher.

Lots of people name their kids Mohammad - is that blasphemy? Hell, in Pakistan, where I was born and raised, the "bawarchees" and "housekeepers" are named "Mohammad". You think they mean Prophet Mohammad?

A teddy bear is symbol of love and affection. They didn't name the class dog, it was a teddy bear kids hug and cuddle. Come on!

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Unread post by turbocanuck » Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:42 am

Originally posted by pardesi:
Anajmi, please stop dodging and jumping from one place to another. The little kids named the bear "Mohammad" and not "Prophet Mohammad" because it was a popular name in the class. The kids had no idea it would swell up to be this big and eventually they will lose a good teacher.

Lots of people name their kids Mohammad - is that blasphemy? Hell, in Pakistan, where I was born and raised, the "bawarchees" and "housekeepers" are named "Mohammad". You think they mean Prophet Mohammad?

A teddy bear is symbol of love and affection. They didn't name the class dog, it was a teddy bear kids hug and cuddle. Come on!
This retard imbecile Anusmi NEVER had a childhood. He spent his early years in the lap some fat, pot bellied belcher named Mullah-Bin-brains. Come on guys. The only things he played with was the backscratcher for the retarded Thug mullah. He knows no difference between the Holy Prophet Muhammad and a Teddy bear!! Couple of years back a child killer was incarcerated whose name was Muhammad, a rapist was jailed whose name was Muhammad in Canada. So now we can assume that the Holy Prophet was implied?? These idiots are just that. Uneducated Morons whose goal in life is to spew hatred and poison towards other MUSLIMS!!

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:33 am

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