Kashmir Unmarked Graves Hold Thousands Of Bodies.

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:33 am

bro anajmi
yes kashmir is a political problem, so then why wipe out hindus then?
why say jihad if only pure political problem?
why take name of religion if only purely political problem.
why here some people say state opression of muslims by army, and want the same army in another part of country to save them when riots are there?
yes purely politcal problem made into religious problem by the poeple of that land only with siding with one religion and neighbouring country.
yes they can leave with the land, but problem is land was belonging to another religious people also who were massacred in the name of jihad shouting "leave the land, but leave ur women folk here" and let this logic apply to all countries also. and elsewhere in india also. yes i appreciate this is very gud solution and i am all for it.
but still u havent answered my question
what should a true muslim do in the land of infidel?


bro sbm
babri masjid demolition was bad, nobody condones it atleast not me.
but the thing to note is there was no namaaz in that masjid since many years.
and btw many masjids were built by destruction of temples.
what about that? --saying only about masjid makes u communal --either accept it or be unpartisan as it is pluralistic country

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:35 am

Worryingly, intelligence assessments indicate that growing disaffection amongst the youth is ceding ground to fundamentalist Islamist groups like Daesh (also called Islamic State).

Analysts fear that frustration could morph a separatist insurgency into a pan-Islamist jihad based on Palestine-style street uprisings (the intifada) and the deployment of terror weapons -- suicide vests, truck bombs and fidayeen-style attacks on civilian targets outside Kashmir.

This would also see the separatist leadership pass into the hands of far more radical entities than the known leaders in the Hurriyat Conference.

Already, Islamist proselytising groups, generously funded from places like Saudi Arabia, have gained ground in Kashmir. The syncretic Kashmiriyat culture has visibly given way to a more puritanical, West Asian, Islam.

The schoolgirl who was molested in Handwara was not donning the traditional Kashmiri headscarf, but a hijab that would have been rare two decades ago.

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/why-t ... 160421.htm

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:39 am

Handwara molestation row: Girl not welcome in school by classmates

this is how muslims behave with a girl. and here people with misplaced sympathy only due to religion behave and talk about pluralistic society.
and btw the girl was donning islamic hijab --and here one guy always talks about respecting women ONLY if she wears burqa

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/handw ... 160421.htm

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Unread post by I Rizwan » Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:54 am

qutub_mamajiwala wrote:Handwara molestation row: Girl not welcome in school by classmates

this is how muslims behave with a girl. and here people with misplaced sympathy only due to religion behave and talk about pluralistic society.
and btw the girl was donning islamic hijab --and here one guy always talks about respecting women ONLY if she wears burqa

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/handw ... 160421.htm
you must be an idiot or dimwit who cant read English...read the link again.

it has nothing to do with her hijab, classmates are not happy because she lied in court of justice, she took a U turn about the army personal.

7 people are killed so far, her U turn on statement has caused more problems for kashmiris.

hijab is wajib on each and every muslim woman you like it or not.
According to a report by the NDTV, classmates said that most would not mingle with her if she returns as she “suppressed reality.”

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:55 am

I Rizwan wrote:
qutub_mamajiwala wrote:Handwara molestation row: Girl not welcome in school by classmates

this is how muslims behave with a girl. and here people with misplaced sympathy only due to religion behave and talk about pluralistic society.
and btw the girl was donning islamic hijab --and here one guy always talks about respecting women ONLY if she wears burqa

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/handw ... 160421.htm
you must be an idiot or dimwit who cant read English...read the link again.

it has nothing to do with her hijab, classmates are not happy because she lied in court of justice, she took a U turn about the army personal.

7 people are killed so far, her U turn on statement has caused more problems for kashmiris.

hijab is wajib on each and every muslim woman you like it or not.
According to a report by the NDTV, classmates said that most would not mingle with her if she returns as she “suppressed reality.”
bro
hijab issue was not addressed to u
he will know to whom it was addressed.
and she did not take u turn. from the day one she said the same thing and stood by it.
u turn was taken by her mom and kashmiri people who wanted an excuse to riot which they are famous for. and actually they were rioting to remove the 3 bunkers army had installed. which now has been removed.
and u blaming the victim shows how sharia is implemented in which rape victim is given lashes instead of the abuser.
for compulsion of hijab--only verse in quran is 34:31 read it so u will know what is wajib and what stupid mullahs tell

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:08 am

I Rizwan wrote:
According to a report by the NDTV, classmates said that most would not mingle with her if she returns as she “suppressed reality.”
this suppression of reality is thought by kashmiri people and not by the girl --will abuser accept that he abused?---u believe the girl or people who were not present in the lavatory when it happened---again perfect example of misogynistic attitude of majority muslim people to blame women that she is responsible for rape citing dress and other non-related issue but never address this to men.
and if tomorrow she sucuumbs to the pressure and changes her statement--u will have field day in victimising kashmiri people and justifying rioting

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Unread post by I Rizwan » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:57 am

qutub bhai we dont know reality, but if such a huge protest was made there must be some thing...

Indian army is full of sexually frustrated men.


http://www.bestrightway.com/2015/02/gir ... ublic.html

and army is always known to deny such incidents even if it is captured live on camera.
Though, the official statement of Indian Army completely denied the incident and declared the news story a misleading piece. However, this mobile video is enough to make clear who is right and who is on the wrong side. Watch and show others this ugly face of Indian Army.
this above video and link is from separate incident

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:24 am

I Rizwan wrote:qutub bhai we dont know reality, but if such a huge protest was made there must be some thing...

Indian army is full of sexually frustrated men.


http://www.bestrightway.com/2015/02/gir ... ublic.html

and army is always known to deny such incidents even if it is captured live on camera.
Though, the official statement of Indian Army completely denied the incident and declared the news story a misleading piece. However, this mobile video is enough to make clear who is right and who is on the wrong side. Watch and show others this ugly face of Indian Army.
this above video and link is from separate incident
yes we dont know
and yes army men are same everywhere, in india or elsewhere
but huge protest is not new in kashmir
it has been going on since 1990 on the issue of so called azadi, kashmiriyat, plebiscite and what not?
and now it has been islamicised completely, throwing out minority calling for jihad and raping and killing non muslim pandits which has been documented
they dont want any reason for stone pelting.
the question the why the victim was in police custody instead of abuser.
and when faulting army men, question should arise why they are called in first place?
if no rioting, then they would not have been summoned.
so the answer are very complex and siding with islamist terrorist sympathiser people will not benefit--especially the people only.

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Unread post by I Rizwan » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:34 am

why cant Indian government allow open referendum just like Crimea did? and let the Kashmiri chose what they want?

this is the MOST peaceful solution to this problem.

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:48 am

yes they should have done that long before.
but now it has become very complicated.
now it is all about jihad and not about kashmiriyat as it is evident from separtist hardcore leaders.
and many hindu kashmiri pandits have been killed and forced exodus outside. so now referendum is not possible.
the only thing is to give the valley --(it amounts to only 25 percent land and only 7 million poeple, rest is jammu and laddakh) to pakistan or let them fend for themselves.
anyway they people and land are not at all useful for india.

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Unread post by SBM » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:56 am

but the thing to note is there was no namaaz in that masjid since many years.
And there was NO PUJA either so why destroy and kill many innocents.

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Unread post by anajmi » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:17 am

No one is wiping out hindus in kashmir. This bs stiry is created by half chaddis and their sympathizers and muslim haters. If kashmiris were killed they were killed by the army. Solve the problem. Do what the people want. Saying that it would be complicated is just a bs excuse. Why waste time and resource on a piece of land that is of no use?

Saying "jihad" doesnt make it Islamic. Name of religion is taken to fix political problems by corrupt politicians. The fact that you ask such a question proves you are a dimwit half chaddi. Thenrath yatra and destruction of babri masjid was all done in the name of religion by the bjp to come to power. People on either side take the name of religion to further their own agenda. But one needs to see through it. But as I said you are in capable of seeing what is in front of you how will you see through anything.? You couldnt see the answers provided because they smacked you right in the face.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:30 pm

The resident muslim hater and Hindutva brigade sympathiser goes round and round in circles without having the guts to counter the below mentioned article. If you have guts then demolish the claims as provided in the article with point to point reference and evidence.........

ghulam muhammed wrote:
qutub_mamajiwala wrote:army is called due to unrest there.
first of all why there is unrest there?
army everywhere in the world does the same thing, and that is why they are not frequently called to calm the situation inside the country unless in emergency.
the unrest happened due to beating of local police and local kashmiri students of outside students due to chanting of slogans. why?
if u dont want to be forced to shout slogans, u should not protest also to whoever is shouting. why double standard?
let them shout and damage their vocal chords and fly the national flags. why u were opposed to it?
actually if u are against deploying army, then it should not be deployed in godhra and muzaffarnagar also due to their killing and raping and let the local police handle the situation. why u want army to be deployed in other parts of india to protect minority and not in kashmir?
kashmiri youths were protesting against the so called sexual harassement of its girl. really? protestors and their ancestors who themselves had shouted for the pandits to leave the valley and leave behind their wifes and daughter --so much for pluralism ethos?
YOU ARE BASICALLY AN ANTI-MUSLIM AND PRO HINDUTVA HENCE, THE BELOW MENTIONED FACTS AND EVIDENCES WILL MEAN NOTHING TO YOU BUT FOR THE BENEFIT OF READERS I AM POSTING THE SAME AND I URGE EVERYONE TO PLEASE READ THE FULL POST WHICH I FOUND ON ANOTHER FORUM :-

Human rights abuses in the Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir state are an ongoing issue. The abuses range from mass killings, enforced disappearances, torture, rape and sexual abuse to political repression and suppression of freedom of speech. The Indian Army, central reserve police force, border security personnel and various separatist militant groups have been accused and held accountable for committing severe human rights abuses against Kashmiri civilians. Revised figures from Indian sources state the number of civilians killed due to the Kashmiri insurgency has been estimated to range from 16,725 to 47,000 civilians while 3,642 civilians were killed by security forces . Diplomatic cables obtained by WikiLeaks revealed that the ICRC had briefed US officials in Delhi in 2005 about the use of torture from 2002-2004 by security forces against hundreds of detainees suspected of being connected to or having information about militants.

In a 1993 report, Human Rights Watch stated that Indian security forces "assaulted civilians during search operations, tortured and summarily executed detainees in custody and murdered civilians in reprisal attacks"; Rape was regularly used as a means to "punish and humiliate" communities. A 2010 US state department report stated that the Indian army in Jammu and Kashmir had carried out extrajudicial killings of civilians and suspected insurgents. In 2010, statistics presented to the Indian government's Cabinet Committee on Security showed that for the first time since the 1980s, the number of civilian deaths attributed to the Indian forces was higher than those attributed to terrorist actions.

Thousands of Kashmiris have reported to be killed by Indian security forces in custody, extrajudicial executions and enforced disappearances and these human right violations are said to be carried out by Indian security forces under total impunity. Civilians including women and children have been killed in "reprisal" attacks by Indian security forces. International NGO's as well as the US State Department have documented human rights abuses including disappearances, torture and arbitrary executions carried out during India's counter terrorism operations. United Nations has expressed serious concerns over large number of killings by Indian security forces. Human Rights groups have also accused the Indian security forces of using child soldiers, although the Indian government denies this allegation. Torture, widely used by Indian security, the severity described as beyond comprehension by amnesty international has been responsible for the huge number of deaths in custody. The Telegraph, citing a WikiLeaks report quotes the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) that Indian security forces were physically abusing detainees by beatings, electrocutions and sexual interference. These detainees weren't Islamic insurgents or Pakistani-backed insurgents but civilians, in contrast to India's continual allegations of Pakistani involvement. According to ICRC, 681 of the 1296 detainees whom it interviewed claimed torture. US officials have been quoted reporting "terrorism investigations and court cases tend to rely upon confessions, many of which are obtained under duress if not beatings, threats, or in some cases torture." Amnesty International accused security forces of exploiting the Armed Forces Special Powers Act that enables them to "hold prisoners without trial". The group argues that the law, which allows security to detain individuals for as many as two years "without presenting charges, violating prisoners’ human rights"

Indian Army

The soldiers of the 4th Rajputana Rifles of the Indian Army on 23 February 1991 launched a search operation in a village Kunan Poshpora, in the Kupwara district of Jammu and Kashmir and allegedly gang raped 53 women of all ages. Later on an interview of victims and eyewitnesses was documented into a short film Ocean of Tears which was prevented from its broadcast. Human Rights organisations including Human Rights Watch have reported that the number of raped women could be as high as 80. The Indian Army is also accused of many massacres such as Bomai Killing, 2009, Gawakadal massacre, 2006 Kulgam massacre, Zakoora And Tengpora Massacre, 1990, Sopore massacre. They also didn‘t spare the health care system of the valley. The major hospitals witnessed the crackdowns and army men even entered the operation theatres in search of terrorist patients.

Border Security Force

On 22 October 1993, the 13th Battalion of the Border Security Forces was accused of arbitrarily firing on a crowd and killing 37 civilians in Bijbehara. The number of reported dead and wounded vary by source. Amnesty International reported that at least 51 people died and 200 were wounded on that day.

The Indian government conducted two official enquiries and the National Human Rights Commission of India (NHRC) conducted a third. In March 1994 the government indicted the Border Security Force (BSF) for firing into the crowd "without provocation" and charged 13 BSF officers with murder. In another incident which took place at Handwara on 25 January 1990, 9 protesters were killed by the same unit.

Central Reserve Police Force

During the Amarnath land transfer controversy more than 40 unarmed protesters were killed by the personnels of Central Reserve Police Force. At least 300 were detained under Public Safety Act, including teenagers. The same practice was again repeated by the personals of the Central Reserve Police Force, during the 2010 Kashmir Unrest, which resulted in 112 deaths, including many teenager protesters at various incidents.

Special Operations Group

The Special Operations Group was raised in 1994 for counter terrorism. A volunteer force, mainly came for promotions and cash rewards, comprising police officers and policemen from the Jammu and Kashmir Police. The group is accused of torture and custodial killings. A Senior Superintendent of this group and his deputy are among the 11 personnels, who were convicted for a fake encounter, which killed a local carpenter, and was labelled as a millitant to get the promotions and rewards.

Armed Forces (Special Powers) Act, 1958

In July 1990 Indian Armed Forces were given special powers under an Armed Forces (Special Powers) Act (AFSPA) that gives protection to Indian Armed Forces personnel from being prosecuted. The law provides them a shield, when committing human rights violations and has been criticised by Human Rights Watch as being wrongly used by the forces. This law is widely condemned by human rights groups. United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Navanethem Pillay has urged India to repeal AFSPA and to investigate the disappearances in Kashmir.

“All three special laws in force in the state assist the government in shielding the perpetrators of human rights violations from prosecution, and encourage them to act with impunity. Provisions of the Armed Forces (Jammu and Kashmir) Special Powers Act clearly contravene international human rights standards laid down in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, as members of the UN Human Rights Committee have pointed out. One Committee member felt that provisions of the act – including imunity from prosecution – were highly dangerous and encouraged violations of the right to life“.

— A clipping from a report published by the Amnesty International, 1995.

In the recent revelations on 24, September 2013 made by the former Indian army chief General V. K. Singh said that, the state politicians of Jammu and Kashmir are being funded by the army secret service to keep the general public at calm and this activity is there since the partition. He also stated that the secret service paid a bribe to a politician to topple the state government which was pushing for AFSPA repeal.

According to the Armed Forces Special Powers Act (AFSPA), in an area that is proclaimed as "disturbed", an officer of the armed forces has powers to:

# Fire upon or use other kinds of force even if it causes death, against the person who is acting against law or order in the disturbed area for the maintenance of public order, after giving such due warning.

# Destroy any arms dump, prepared or fortified position or shelter or training camp from which armed attacks are made by the armed volunteers or armed gangs or absconders wanted for any offence

# To arrest without a warrant anyone who has committed cognizable offences or is reasonably suspected of having done so and may use force if needed for the arrest.

# To enter and search any premise in order to make such arrests, or to recover any person wrongfully restrained or any arms, ammunition or explosive substances and seize it.

# Stop and search any vehicle or vessel reasonably suspected to be carrying such person or weapons.

# Any person arrested and taken into custody under this Act shall be made over to the officer in charge of the nearest police station with the least possible delay, together with a report of the circumstances occasioning the arrest.

# Army officers have legal immunity for their actions. There can be no prosecution, suit or any other legal proceeding against anyone acting under that law. Nor is the government's judgment on why an area is found to be disturbed subject to judicial review.

# Protection of persons acting in good faith under this Act from prosecution, suit or other legal proceedings, except with the sanction of the Central Government, in exercise of the powers conferred by this Act.


Fake encounters

Hundreds of civilian's including women and children have been reported to be extrajudicially executed by Indian security forces and killings concealed as fake encounters. Despite government denial, Indian security officials have reportedly confessed to human right watch of widespread occurrence of fake encounters and its encouragement for awards and promotions. According to a BBC interview with an anonymous security person, 'fake encounter' killings are those in which security personnel kill someone in cold blood while claiming that the casualty occurred in a gun battle. It also asserts that the security personnel are Kashmiris and "even surrendered militants". In 2010 three men were reported missing proceeding these missing reports 3 men claimed to be militants were killed in a staged gun battle the army also claimed they had found Pakistani currency among the dead. The major was subsequently suspended and a senior soldier transferred from his post. In 2011, a Special Police Officer and an Indian Army Jawan were charged by the Kashmir police for murder of a civilian whom the duo had killed in an encounter claiming that he was a top Lashkar-e-Taiba militant.

Disappearances

Indian security forces have been implicated in many reports for enforced disappearances of thousands of Kashmiris where the security forces deny having their information and/or custody. This is often in association with torture or extrajudicial killing. The number of men disappeared have been so many to have a new term "half-widows" for their wives who end up impoverished. Human right activists estimate the number of disappeared over eight thousand, last seen in government detention. These are believed to be dumped in thousands of mass graves across Kashmir.

Mass graves

Mass graves have been identified all over Kashmir by human right activists believed to contain bodies of thousands of Kashmiris of enforced disappearances. A state human rights commission inquiry confirmed there are thousands of bullet-ridden bodies buried in unmarked graves in Jammu and Kashmir. Of the 2730 bodies uncovered in 4 of the 14 districts, 574 bodies were identified as missing locals in contrast to the Indian governments insistence that all the graves belong to foreign militants. According to a new deposition submitted by Parvez Imroz and his field workers asserted that the total number of unmarked graves were about 6,000. The British parliament commented on the recent discovery and expressed its sadness and regret of over 6,000 unmarked graves. Christof Heyns, a special rapporteur on extrajudicial executions, has warned India that “all of these draconian laws had no place in a functioning democracy and should be scrapped.”

Extrajudicial killings by security personnel

In a 1994 report, Human Rights Watch described summary executions of detainees as a "hallmark" of counter-insurgency operations by Indian security forces in Kashmir. The report further stated that such extrajudicial killings were often administered within hours of arrest, and were carried out not as aberrations but as a "matter of policy". In a 1995 report, Amnesty International stated that hundred of civilians had been victims of such killings, which were often claimed by officers as occurring during "encounters" or "cross-fire". A 2010 US state department report cited extrajudicial killings by security forces in areas of conflict such as Kashmir as a major human rights problem in India.

Torture and sexual violence

Indian security forces and police have been accused of the systematic use of torture. US officials first showed concern regarding the widespread use of torture in 2007 where they presented evidence to Indian diplomats. Human rights groups state that 150 top officers have participated in torture as well as sexual violence and that the Indian government was covering up such acts.

Suicide

According to a report, 17,000 people, mostly women, have committed suicide during the last 20 years in the Valley. According to a study by the Medecins Sans Frontieres :-

“Women in Kashmir have suffered enormously since the separatist struggle became violent in 1989–90. Like the women in other conflict zones, they have been raped, tortured, maimed and killed. A few of them were even jailed for years together. Kashmiri women are among the worst sufferers of sexual violence in the world. ‘Sexual violence has been routinely perpetrated on Kashmiri women, with 11.6% of respondents saying they were victims of sexual abuse’,”

At the beginning of the insurgency there were 1200 patients in the valley‘s sole mental hospital. The hospital is now overcrowded with more than 100,000 patients.

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Sun Apr 24, 2016 1:22 am

anajmi wrote:No one is wiping out hindus in kashmir. This bs stiry is created by half chaddis and their sympathizers and muslim haters. If kashmiris were killed they were killed by the army. Solve the problem. Do what the people want. Saying that it would be complicated is just a bs excuse. Why waste time and resource on a piece of land that is of no use?

Saying "jihad" doesnt make it Islamic. Name of religion is taken to fix political problems by corrupt politicians. The fact that you ask such a question proves you are a dimwit half chaddi. Thenrath yatra and destruction of babri masjid was all done in the name of religion by the bjp to come to power. People on either side take the name of religion to further their own agenda. But one needs to see through it. But as I said you are in capable of seeing what is in front of you how will you see through anything.? You couldnt see the answers provided because they smacked you right in the face.
yes no one is wiping out hindus in kashmir, coz they are already wiped out
army was called coz of religious fanatism.
root of the problem --religious fanatic ideology
got it?

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Sun Apr 24, 2016 1:25 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:The resident muslim hater and Hindutva brigade sympathiser goes round and round in circles without having the guts to counter the below mentioned article. If you have guts then demolish the claims as provided in the article with point to point reference and evidence.........

ghulam muhammed wrote:
YOU ARE BASICALLY AN ANTI-MUSLIM AND PRO HINDUTVA HENCE, THE BELOW MENTIONED FACTS AND EVIDENCES WILL MEAN NOTHING TO YOU BUT FOR THE BENEFIT OF READERS I AM POSTING THE SAME AND I URGE EVERYONE TO PLEASE READ THE FULL POST WHICH I FOUND ON ANOTHER FORUM :-

Human rights abuses in the Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir state are an ongoing issue. The abuses range from mass killings, enforced disappearances, torture, rape and sexual abuse to political repression and suppression of freedom of speech. The Indian Army, central reserve police force, border security personnel and various separatist militant groups have been accused and held accountable for committing severe human rights abuses against Kashmiri civilians. Revised figures from Indian sources state the number of civilians killed due to the Kashmiri insurgency has been estimated to range from 16,725 to 47,000 civilians while 3,642 civilians were killed by security forces . Diplomatic cables obtained by WikiLeaks revealed that the ICRC had briefed US officials in Delhi in 2005 about the use of torture from 2002-2004 by security forces against hundreds of detainees suspected of being connected to or having information about militants.

In a 1993 report, Human Rights Watch stated that Indian security forces "assaulted civilians during search operations, tortured and summarily executed detainees in custody and murdered civilians in reprisal attacks"; Rape was regularly used as a means to "punish and humiliate" communities. A 2010 US state department report stated that the Indian army in Jammu and Kashmir had carried out extrajudicial killings of civilians and suspected insurgents. In 2010, statistics presented to the Indian government's Cabinet Committee on Security showed that for the first time since the 1980s, the number of civilian deaths attributed to the Indian forces was higher than those attributed to terrorist actions.

Thousands of Kashmiris have reported to be killed by Indian security forces in custody, extrajudicial executions and enforced disappearances and these human right violations are said to be carried out by Indian security forces under total impunity. Civilians including women and children have been killed in "reprisal" attacks by Indian security forces. International NGO's as well as the US State Department have documented human rights abuses including disappearances, torture and arbitrary executions carried out during India's counter terrorism operations. United Nations has expressed serious concerns over large number of killings by Indian security forces. Human Rights groups have also accused the Indian security forces of using child soldiers, although the Indian government denies this allegation. Torture, widely used by Indian security, the severity described as beyond comprehension by amnesty international has been responsible for the huge number of deaths in custody. The Telegraph, citing a WikiLeaks report quotes the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) that Indian security forces were physically abusing detainees by beatings, electrocutions and sexual interference. These detainees weren't Islamic insurgents or Pakistani-backed insurgents but civilians, in contrast to India's continual allegations of Pakistani involvement. According to ICRC, 681 of the 1296 detainees whom it interviewed claimed torture. US officials have been quoted reporting "terrorism investigations and court cases tend to rely upon confessions, many of which are obtained under duress if not beatings, threats, or in some cases torture." Amnesty International accused security forces of exploiting the Armed Forces Special Powers Act that enables them to "hold prisoners without trial". The group argues that the law, which allows security to detain individuals for as many as two years "without presenting charges, violating prisoners’ human rights"

Indian Army

The soldiers of the 4th Rajputana Rifles of the Indian Army on 23 February 1991 launched a search operation in a village Kunan Poshpora, in the Kupwara district of Jammu and Kashmir and allegedly gang raped 53 women of all ages. Later on an interview of victims and eyewitnesses was documented into a short film Ocean of Tears which was prevented from its broadcast. Human Rights organisations including Human Rights Watch have reported that the number of raped women could be as high as 80. The Indian Army is also accused of many massacres such as Bomai Killing, 2009, Gawakadal massacre, 2006 Kulgam massacre, Zakoora And Tengpora Massacre, 1990, Sopore massacre. They also didn‘t spare the health care system of the valley. The major hospitals witnessed the crackdowns and army men even entered the operation theatres in search of terrorist patients.

Border Security Force

On 22 October 1993, the 13th Battalion of the Border Security Forces was accused of arbitrarily firing on a crowd and killing 37 civilians in Bijbehara. The number of reported dead and wounded vary by source. Amnesty International reported that at least 51 people died and 200 were wounded on that day.

The Indian government conducted two official enquiries and the National Human Rights Commission of India (NHRC) conducted a third. In March 1994 the government indicted the Border Security Force (BSF) for firing into the crowd "without provocation" and charged 13 BSF officers with murder. In another incident which took place at Handwara on 25 January 1990, 9 protesters were killed by the same unit.

Central Reserve Police Force

During the Amarnath land transfer controversy more than 40 unarmed protesters were killed by the personnels of Central Reserve Police Force. At least 300 were detained under Public Safety Act, including teenagers. The same practice was again repeated by the personals of the Central Reserve Police Force, during the 2010 Kashmir Unrest, which resulted in 112 deaths, including many teenager protesters at various incidents.

Special Operations Group

The Special Operations Group was raised in 1994 for counter terrorism. A volunteer force, mainly came for promotions and cash rewards, comprising police officers and policemen from the Jammu and Kashmir Police. The group is accused of torture and custodial killings. A Senior Superintendent of this group and his deputy are among the 11 personnels, who were convicted for a fake encounter, which killed a local carpenter, and was labelled as a millitant to get the promotions and rewards.

Armed Forces (Special Powers) Act, 1958

In July 1990 Indian Armed Forces were given special powers under an Armed Forces (Special Powers) Act (AFSPA) that gives protection to Indian Armed Forces personnel from being prosecuted. The law provides them a shield, when committing human rights violations and has been criticised by Human Rights Watch as being wrongly used by the forces. This law is widely condemned by human rights groups. United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Navanethem Pillay has urged India to repeal AFSPA and to investigate the disappearances in Kashmir.

“All three special laws in force in the state assist the government in shielding the perpetrators of human rights violations from prosecution, and encourage them to act with impunity. Provisions of the Armed Forces (Jammu and Kashmir) Special Powers Act clearly contravene international human rights standards laid down in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, as members of the UN Human Rights Committee have pointed out. One Committee member felt that provisions of the act – including imunity from prosecution – were highly dangerous and encouraged violations of the right to life“.

— A clipping from a report published by the Amnesty International, 1995.

In the recent revelations on 24, September 2013 made by the former Indian army chief General V. K. Singh said that, the state politicians of Jammu and Kashmir are being funded by the army secret service to keep the general public at calm and this activity is there since the partition. He also stated that the secret service paid a bribe to a politician to topple the state government which was pushing for AFSPA repeal.

According to the Armed Forces Special Powers Act (AFSPA), in an area that is proclaimed as "disturbed", an officer of the armed forces has powers to:

# Fire upon or use other kinds of force even if it causes death, against the person who is acting against law or order in the disturbed area for the maintenance of public order, after giving such due warning.

# Destroy any arms dump, prepared or fortified position or shelter or training camp from which armed attacks are made by the armed volunteers or armed gangs or absconders wanted for any offence

# To arrest without a warrant anyone who has committed cognizable offences or is reasonably suspected of having done so and may use force if needed for the arrest.

# To enter and search any premise in order to make such arrests, or to recover any person wrongfully restrained or any arms, ammunition or explosive substances and seize it.

# Stop and search any vehicle or vessel reasonably suspected to be carrying such person or weapons.

# Any person arrested and taken into custody under this Act shall be made over to the officer in charge of the nearest police station with the least possible delay, together with a report of the circumstances occasioning the arrest.

# Army officers have legal immunity for their actions. There can be no prosecution, suit or any other legal proceeding against anyone acting under that law. Nor is the government's judgment on why an area is found to be disturbed subject to judicial review.

# Protection of persons acting in good faith under this Act from prosecution, suit or other legal proceedings, except with the sanction of the Central Government, in exercise of the powers conferred by this Act.


Fake encounters

Hundreds of civilian's including women and children have been reported to be extrajudicially executed by Indian security forces and killings concealed as fake encounters. Despite government denial, Indian security officials have reportedly confessed to human right watch of widespread occurrence of fake encounters and its encouragement for awards and promotions. According to a BBC interview with an anonymous security person, 'fake encounter' killings are those in which security personnel kill someone in cold blood while claiming that the casualty occurred in a gun battle. It also asserts that the security personnel are Kashmiris and "even surrendered militants". In 2010 three men were reported missing proceeding these missing reports 3 men claimed to be militants were killed in a staged gun battle the army also claimed they had found Pakistani currency among the dead. The major was subsequently suspended and a senior soldier transferred from his post. In 2011, a Special Police Officer and an Indian Army Jawan were charged by the Kashmir police for murder of a civilian whom the duo had killed in an encounter claiming that he was a top Lashkar-e-Taiba militant.

Disappearances

Indian security forces have been implicated in many reports for enforced disappearances of thousands of Kashmiris where the security forces deny having their information and/or custody. This is often in association with torture or extrajudicial killing. The number of men disappeared have been so many to have a new term "half-widows" for their wives who end up impoverished. Human right activists estimate the number of disappeared over eight thousand, last seen in government detention. These are believed to be dumped in thousands of mass graves across Kashmir.

Mass graves

Mass graves have been identified all over Kashmir by human right activists believed to contain bodies of thousands of Kashmiris of enforced disappearances. A state human rights commission inquiry confirmed there are thousands of bullet-ridden bodies buried in unmarked graves in Jammu and Kashmir. Of the 2730 bodies uncovered in 4 of the 14 districts, 574 bodies were identified as missing locals in contrast to the Indian governments insistence that all the graves belong to foreign militants. According to a new deposition submitted by Parvez Imroz and his field workers asserted that the total number of unmarked graves were about 6,000. The British parliament commented on the recent discovery and expressed its sadness and regret of over 6,000 unmarked graves. Christof Heyns, a special rapporteur on extrajudicial executions, has warned India that “all of these draconian laws had no place in a functioning democracy and should be scrapped.”

Extrajudicial killings by security personnel

In a 1994 report, Human Rights Watch described summary executions of detainees as a "hallmark" of counter-insurgency operations by Indian security forces in Kashmir. The report further stated that such extrajudicial killings were often administered within hours of arrest, and were carried out not as aberrations but as a "matter of policy". In a 1995 report, Amnesty International stated that hundred of civilians had been victims of such killings, which were often claimed by officers as occurring during "encounters" or "cross-fire". A 2010 US state department report cited extrajudicial killings by security forces in areas of conflict such as Kashmir as a major human rights problem in India.

Torture and sexual violence

Indian security forces and police have been accused of the systematic use of torture. US officials first showed concern regarding the widespread use of torture in 2007 where they presented evidence to Indian diplomats. Human rights groups state that 150 top officers have participated in torture as well as sexual violence and that the Indian government was covering up such acts.

Suicide

According to a report, 17,000 people, mostly women, have committed suicide during the last 20 years in the Valley. According to a study by the Medecins Sans Frontieres :-

“Women in Kashmir have suffered enormously since the separatist struggle became violent in 1989–90. Like the women in other conflict zones, they have been raped, tortured, maimed and killed. A few of them were even jailed for years together. Kashmiri women are among the worst sufferers of sexual violence in the world. ‘Sexual violence has been routinely perpetrated on Kashmiri women, with 11.6% of respondents saying they were victims of sexual abuse’,”

At the beginning of the insurgency there were 1200 patients in the valley‘s sole mental hospital. The hospital is now overcrowded with more than 100,000 patients.
bro
all this problem started because of religious fanatism.
local people supported cross border terrorism in name of religion.
thats why army was called.
and minorities wiped out in the name of jihad.
do u refute this claim.

muslims want special rights and minority status in infidel state, but refuse to give same to minority in islamic state.

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:36 am

why was indian army called in first place?
due to militancy?
if no militancy , then no army would have been called.
so first address the core issue.
and it is a fact that minortiy has been wiped out. u can go on and on for whatever reason. but still cannot alter the facts they were forced to go.
no militancy can survive without local support.

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KILLING OF THREE MILITANTS SPARKS PROTESTS IN J&K

Three Hizbul Mujhahideen militants were killed early on Saturday in an encounter with security forces in south Kashmir's Pulwama district.

Acting on intelligence inputs, a joint team of police and army cordoned-off Panzgam village in Pulwama district. As they began a search operation, the hiding militants fired upon them, triggering an encounter, said an official.

In the ensuing gunfight, he said, the militants, all locals, were killed. The team also recovered firearms from the encounter site.
A teenager was wounded after an unexploded grenade went off at the encounter site in Pulwama.

However, the killings triggered huge protests, which devolved into violent clashes with the security forces in Pulwama. The protesters hurled stones at cops and army jawans and shouted anti-India slogans.

The protests also prompted the Indian Railways to suspend train services between Srinagar and Banihal.
Let, Hizbul under one command

Meanwhile, the Indian army said militant groups Lashkar-e-Taiba and Hizbul are working together in the Valley following the death of LeT commander Abu Qasim. They said the Hizbul militants, who are mostly locals, are running short of weapons and are dependent on their LeT counterparts. Several Pakistani nationals are working as LeT cadres in the Valley, they said.

"Lashker and Hizbul terrorists are working together after many of the top terrorists were killed," said Army Commander Brigadier K Vini Gopal of 12 Sector.


http://www.mumbaimirror.com/news/india/ ... 170877.cms

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon May 09, 2016 4:28 pm

My name is Nitin Bafna I am from Mumbai, India. I was on a vacation with my wife and 3 year old daughter in Kashmir in 2015. After spending a good time in Kashmir, we left for Jammu from Pahalgam, Kashmir. But unfortunately on the way as we reached Qazigund our daughter got really sick, the only option left with us was to reach Udhampur as early as possible for medical assistance. As we reached Qazigund we came to know that the highway was only open for vehicular traffic from Jammu to Srinagar that day, as due to bad weather only one way of traffic was possible on the highway.

I went to the check post in Qazigund they informed me that it wont be possible to travel to Jammu that day and we will have to wait for 20 more hours to continue our journey as no vehicle was allowed from Qazigund to Jammu. Feeling helpless I went to Qazigund police station for help, they said it’s not under their jurisdiction to allow anyone to travel on the highway and they suggested I travel back to Srinagar for medical assistance. At the police station one of the officers after hearing my story told I should visit the DSP TRAFFIC MR.SAFDAR SAMOON, he will be the only person who can help us. We went to DSP traffics office which was just nearby. After telling my side to a junior officer he quickly arranged in 20 minutes our meeting with Mr Samoon. All this while being worried due to my daughters condition, now I got nervous as well as I had to meet a senior police official and that too in Kashmir. When we met Mr Samoon, we explained our situation to him, and he listened patiently and then asked where are you from. I said we are from Mumbai. He then asked hows amchi Mumbai? I was quite relived with his gesture and he said he also liked Mumbai.

Mr Safdar Hamid Samoon told us you are not only our guest in Kashmir, but you are like our brother. Then he gave us a special medical emergency letter. He not only gave special permission to our vehicle but also made arrangements for our safe journey to Udhampur.

I just wanted to share this story so that people in India should come to know how people in Kashmir treated us. Mr Samoon is an example of that. There are many unheard stories of hospitality and kindness shown by Kashmiri people which are never shown in Indian media, while always only a wrong message about Kashmir is sent out. I request If you want to know the truth please visit Kashmir once.

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Tue May 10, 2016 3:15 am

'Don't allow self-styled leaders to oppose resettlement of Kashmiri Pandits'

A couple of days ago, the pro-Pakistan faction of Hurriyat issued a press statement in which it (once again) opposed the resettlement of the minority Pandit community of Kashmir in composite colonies. The same faction has been consistently opposing such proposals seeking to resettle the internally displaced Pandits in the valley. We are a group of Kashmiri Muslims (and there are many like us) on whose behalf any faction of Hurriyat – which portrays itself as the representative voice of all Kashmiris – does not speak.

We are distressed that the minorities are being treated insensitively by self-styled leaders in the name of secularism. If the separatists really wish to remove their taint of communal intolerance, nothing could be more counter-productive than opposing the return of Pandits. In fact, this obstructionism only provides the definitive confirmation that the "tehreek’" is indeed what it is alleged to be. Through this open letter, we wish to make an appeal to Kashmiris of all denominations, including separatists, to support the resettlement of Pandits and leave the modalities of return for the Pandits to decide.

The fact is, before the start of their exodus in 1989, the Pandit population was already cloistered in certain localities and mohallas in Kashmir. Where 1-3 families used live in a joint household, now they have become 3-9 families. To make the Pandits relocate to their native places means to squeeze them in a suffocating atmosphere, thereby ensuring the quality of life remains dismal for them. The vicious propaganda against the colonies is exposed when we consider that there is no land available in the city, at least not at the scale required to settle the displaced. Any large scale resettlement has to be done though new colonies. This perhaps is the only pragmatic way, considering that mostly Muslims are now occupying – legally and rightfully – the properties that Pandits sold to them.

During the decade that followed 1989, Kashmir witnessed unspeakable violence, the brunt of which was faced by ordinary people who paid with their lives. Under such circumstances, the minorities were left with no option but to flee from their homeland. This was also a time when members of the majority community fell short of assuring the Pandits safety, even as the administration itself proved ineffectual in assuring security to anybody who needed it. 1989-90 is a dark chapter in the history of Kashmir when the entire fabric of the society was torn. If Kashmiriyat ever existed, it died in 1990. We regret that not many of us came to the rescue of Pandits in 1990 because we were also afraid of the gun or were ignorant of their plight. We have witnessed and shared in the suffering that common Kashmiri people went through in these years of incessant armed conflict. As such, we have only empathy for the pain the displaced minority community has suffered.

A shrinking window of opportunity

However, now, 26 years later we, the Kashmiri Muslims, are being offered an opportunity to set things right, and all we have to do is not oppose any resettlement plan of Pandits. No one has the right to dictate anyone’s return to their own home. Pandits are as much Kashmiris as we, the Muslims, are. In any case, the Pandits, being the state subjects, have every right to live in any part of the Jammu and Kashmir state. On the other hand, if this time too the “silent Muslim majority” allows self-styled leaders to speak and act on our behalf, we will be stereotyped in the eyes of the world as intolerant people who not just drove away a religious minority but also resisted their return, thereby adding one more taint on our secular character. In that case, history will never remember our generation in a positive light. Indeed, over this issue of return of Pandits, we Muslims have only our own reputation at stake. We must act sensibly and facilitate their return rather than create hindrances.

As for our Pandits friends, they should return to Kashmir – not because they are being welcomed (or not), but because it is their right that no one can take away. Pandits too have a shrinking window of opportunity to return, as the new generations, who never grew up in the valley, exhibit less interest and nostalgia associated with Kashmir. This is a chance to infuse a new life into the Kashmiri Pandit culture that got diluted in the diaspora.

Of course, we would love it if Pandits were to choose to live amongst us with full dignity, as our neighbours, in their erstwhile addresses, like in the days prior to the dawn of the 90s. This indeed is what most of us want. However, we will understand if the Pandits choose to resettle elsewhere – what with their houses having been sold or destroyed, and the situation still being volatile in the valley. We wish for them to settle wherever they feel comfortable – the whole of Kashmir is their home. They are free to settle in separate townships, if that is what will make them feel secure. We will understand that and accept it as a start, hoping someday we will all live together.

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qutub_mamajiwala wrote:J&K firing: Handwara girl says no soldier molested her, accuses local youth of harassment

SRINAGAR: A Kashmiri girl, who was reportedly molested by a soldier, has denied that ever happened and has instead alleged that local boys harassed her and also began the riots that led to the killing of two young men when the army fired on protesters in Handwara on Tuesday.

In a widely circulated YouTube video interview, the teenager narrated the sequence of events and clarified that she was not misbehaved with or molested by a soldier.

"I went to the (public) washroom and handed my bag to a friend. When I came back, a Kashmiri student heckled me and snatched my bag. The boy in school uniform slapped me and asked 'if there were no boys in the valley' (angrily insinuating that the girl was in a relationship with a soldier). I was shocked and confused about what he had said. Suddenly, several boys gathered. The boy asked me to go to the police station with him. There was a police uncle nearby. I told the boy to return my bag so that I could go to police station with the cop. He said he would not return my bag and started abusing me."
Violent protests erupted in Handwara on Tuesday afternoon following rumours that a teenage girl was molested by a soldier of the Rashtriya Rifles in a camp in the middle of Handwara in north Kashmir.
An agitated mob set ablaze an Army picket, pelted stones, attacked Jammu & Kashmir police personnel and attacked the local police station. Police officers were beaten up by the mob. The soldiers opened fire and three people including a woman were killed.
"There was no soldier there (near or in the washroom). I saw Hilal (an acquaintance). He slapped me and asked me what I was doing there. I asked him how he too could accuse me of any such thing (allegation of an illicit relationship) knowing me and our family. He too started abusing. It seemed that they had conspired in advance. The boy instigated all other boys too to create trouble," the girls says in the video.
Defence spokesman Col Manish Kumar said the Handwara girl's revelation has exposed the malicious intent of the perpetrators. The video clearly implicates local youth and shows how false propaganda resulted in massive protests, he said.
Meanwhile, one of the injured in Tuesday's firing, Raja Begum, who was admitted in SKIMS, succumbed to her bullet injuries later that night, taking the death toll to three. She was hit by a stray bullet in Tuesday's firing.
Protests erupted in the Langate area after her dead body arrived home on Wednesday.
Authorities imposed curfew in the six police station areas of Srinagar city and in Handwara in Kupwara district on Wednesday. The situation in uptown Srinagar was normal. Shops and business establishments were functioning as usual in several areas.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 808725.cms
JK teen retracts coerced statement, says armyman molested her

SRINAGAR: The 16-year-old girl whose molestation triggered protests and led to the killing of five civilians last month in Jammu & Kashmir has alleged that it was an Armyman who had molested her and accused police forcing her to give a statement blaming the sexual harassment on two local boys.

Talking to mediapersons here on Monday at a presser organised by the J&K Coalition of Civil Society, the Class XII girl from Handwara town in Kupwara said,"On April 12, while I was returning from a washroom, an Armyman in uniform caught my hand. I somehow managed to free myself and ran out crying."

"A policeman, Mohammad Shafi, then caught my hand and dragged me to a police station. Although I told him that I want to go home, he didn't listen," she said.

"The policemen, including a two-star officer, came to the room and hurled choicest abuses on me. One of them even spat on me," she further alleged. The policemen and officers, some with their faces covered, told her not to tell the truth. "When I asked why I should lie, one of them slapped me," she said."The police officer (Handwara SP Ghulam Jeelani) recorded my video statement, which was based on the script given by police. I said in the statement what I was asked to by the cops," she said and asked why the police officer had given the video clip to the Army and made it public. She alleged that police also forced her to give the same statement in a CJM court.

The girl further alleged the police didn't allow her to call her parents. "At around 1 pm, they called my family. My father and aunt came to the police station but were detained and my father's mobile was snatched". "The cops made us sign on many blank papers in the dead of the night," she said, adding that had her mother not approached the High Court, the policemen "might have killed her".

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Thu May 19, 2016 2:04 am

bro gm
after so many days?
u r intelligent enough to guess i think.
under whose pressure?

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu May 19, 2016 3:14 pm

qutub_mamajiwala wrote:bro gm
after so many days?
u r intelligent enough to guess i think.
under whose pressure?
Bro QM,

Yes, I am quite aware of the fact as to how police extract confessions on orders of their political masters and how an average citizen is unable to do anything about it as there is a constant fear of he/she being implicated in any other false case. The subject issue had hogged headlines of almost all newspapers and there were numerous debates on TV channels due to which it is obvious that the poor girl was scared of her life and had to wait for the matter to subside and then come out with facts.

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Sun May 29, 2016 4:50 am

Every Pandit in Kashmir faces identity crisis

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 484212.cms

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Unread post by SBM » Sun May 29, 2016 10:10 pm

qutub_mamajiwala wrote:Every Pandit in Kashmir faces identity crisis

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 484212.cms
And every Muslim in India faces discrimination and Identity crisis..

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Mon May 30, 2016 1:55 am

SBM wrote:
qutub_mamajiwala wrote:Every Pandit in Kashmir faces identity crisis

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 484212.cms
And every Muslim in India faces discrimination and Identity crisis..
that is coz they dont assimilate and want to always differ.
those who assimilate, dont face any crisis.
like bohras.
and those dont want to assimilate are free to leave like u and others. we dont want them to create troubles for us.
still fascist are not so fascist as to force them to leave or make genocide like in kashmir.
hope they would do that. so we will get rid of all those who dont like it here.

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Mon May 30, 2016 2:08 am

Hindu Massacre by Muslims in India - Interview With Bitta Karate, JKLF Terrorist - YouTube.flv.mp4

This Cannibal Killed 20 Kashmiri Pandits- A Shocking Interview !!

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Unread post by SBM » Mon May 30, 2016 7:26 am

those who assimilate, dont face any crisis.
like bohras.
So why Bohras who put the identifications on their properties during Gujarat riots as per the farman of SMB were looted and burned. Your RSS army and Goonds knew very well where does Bohras live and it was the Bohra community who was financially destroyed by your RSS Gondas.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon May 30, 2016 4:50 pm

qutub_mamajiwala wrote:that is coz they dont assimilate and want to always differ.
those who assimilate, dont face any crisis.
like bohras
.
Stop being a RSS kuva ka medak and open your eyes to whats going on around you, seriously man you are a nut case !!

Muslim businessman sells his house after VHP protest

Muslim businessman sold off his house in a Hindu majority locality in the sanatorium area of Bhavnagar city apparently after a protest by the right wing Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) here.

"A Muslim businessman had purchased property worth lakhs of rupees in a Hindu-dominated locality in the Sanatorium area of Bhavnagar city, after which the VHP launched a protest.

Programmes like singing of Ram dhuns and Ram bhajans were organized after which the businessman finally sold off his property (house)," VHP's Bhavnagar city president S D Jani said.

A year ago, VHP international president Pravin Togadia had allegedly advised VHP members and other residents of that area to insult Muslims to make them vacate their properties in areas dominated by the majority community.
Jani, who resides in the Meghani Circle area of Bhavnagar claimed that Togadia had stayed at his residence when he made those inflammatory remarks.

"Our people had represented before him (Togadia) that Muslims are buying houses in our areas. So he told them to organize Ram Dhun and Ram Bhajan on loudspeakers in front of the Muslim businessman's house. Our people did that and finally the Muslim businessman sold off his property," Jani claimed.

Bohri Muslim businessman Ali Asghar Zaveri, who deals in scrap refused to make any comments on the issue.

When asked about whether he was forced to sell his house under pressure from religious outfits, he said, he was "busy".

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 853343.cms


How To Evict Muslims From Hindu Areas: Praveen Togadia

Pravin Togadia—whose Twitter handle describes him as "Renowned Cancer Surgeon ; International Working President, VHP (Vishwa Hindu Parishad)—has stirred up a controversy by a speech alleged to have been made on Saturday, April 19, 2014, targeting Muslims for buying properties in Hindu areas.

The video of the alleged speech of April 19 has been telecast on various news channels which clearly shows Praveen Togadia apparently addressing a street protest outside a house said to have been purchased by a Muslim businessman near Meghani Circle in Bhavnagar in Rajkot.

One is to exert pressure the state government to bring in Disturbed Areas Act which prevents inter-community sale of immovable property.

Election time, he says, is a good time to exert such pressure.

The second, he is heard saying, is to talk to some lawyer, forcibly occupying the house, putting a board saying Bajrang Dal outside, and then fighting a legal battle which could continue in courts.

Mr Togadia is heard saying that no one is hanged for forcibly occupying some one else's house. If there is a legal case, let it be.

After all, he is heard saying, if Rajiv Gandhi's killers were not hanged, what could they do to us?.

If they come out on the road, you should start a campaign of spitting. There is no law against spitting, he is heard saying and that the occupants of the house, when they come out should be spat on.

There is no punishment for throwing tomatoes also, he says. So throw tomatoes at them, once they come out.


Force them, thus, by waging a battle on two fronts to vacate the house on their own or losing their house and money because of forcible occupation.

http://www.outlookindia.com/blog/story/ ... gadia/3248

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Unread post by anajmi » Mon May 30, 2016 9:40 pm

The cowardly muslims (the bohras) will be the first ones to be kicked out of their homes. It hasn't happened yet because of the real muslims who actually have the balls to fight back. If a hindu were to spit on our half chaddi sympathizer he would probably lick it and give the hindu a thumbs up sign. What a shameful living. Always bent, either in front of the fully clad Dai or in front of the half chaddi!!

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Tue May 31, 2016 1:58 am

even after the worst riots, muslims are still living.
bro gm and his wahabi friends themselves proudly tell they escaped the riots.
so the fascist force are not that fascist after all, otherwise they would not have been there to write like in kashmir, bengal kerala
where there is genocide where muslims are in majority.
they are told and issued farmaans either convert, or behave like muslims like no eating in ramzan, shop closed during prayers.
if not they are killed so no one to write like u who escaped.
till that happens in other parts in fascist majority, we can safely assumed who is discriminating whom?