An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by Muslim First » Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:20 pm

I so not dwell on it. Future is in Allah's hand. I live from day to day.
JAK

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:18 pm

profastian wrote:I went there and spat on their graves.
I wouldnt like to spell out as to what you will get in return from Allah (swt) for your above act as the same is quite obvious to everyone but your dai must have surely given you hadiyat sharaf for this although it is another matter that the dai's father had gladly accepted a cadillac and buick from the ones who respect these sahabas !!

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by level_headed » Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:40 pm

MF wrote
No. Prophet's grave is not in Prophet’s Masjid. Prophet was buried in Bibi Aisha's qurter (room) where he died. Some of Prophet's wives lived in rooms next to Masjid. Hz Abu Bakr and Umar were also buried in same room. Bibi Aisha lived in small part of that room after prophet;s death. She granted request by her father to be buried in same room and she would not observe Hijab since dead men were het father and husband. Later she granted permission for Umar to be buried in same chanber and she would observe 'Purda' since Umar even dead was non Merham to her. There was room for one more grave and she gave permission fot Imam Hasan to be buried there but Imam Hussein decided to bury his brother elsewhere.
Was Ayesha not the biggest dhongi of them all. Here she is doing purdah in her room with a grave. Where was her purdah when She went to fight against Maulana Ali in the battle of Jamal
She went with Talha and Zubayr (no blood relation of hers) and at the head of the army to confront Maulana
Ali. Where did her concept of purdah go when she was on top of her camel urging her army to fight.
It was Maulana Ali's karam that he sent Ayesha back to Madina with her brother Mohammad bin Abu Bakr and a group of ladies dressed up as men to escort her all the way to Madina from Iraq

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by Muslim First » Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:51 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:
profastian wrote:I went there and spat on their graves.
I wouldnt like to spell out as to what you will get in return from Allah (swt) for your above act as the same is quite obvious to everyone but your dai must have surely given you hadiyat sharaf for this although it is another matter that the dai's father had gladly accepted a cadillac and buick from the ones who respect these sahabas !!
Br GH
you cannot extricate this mud bugs from their enviornment. They cannot live without mud. Just ignore them.

Deceased person does not care if somebody praises him, curses him, put flowers on his grave, p on it or spit on it.

BTW brother is a lier. Imagine him spitting towards graves and come out alive!

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by Muslim First » Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:57 pm

Was Ayesha not the biggest dhongi of them all. Here she is doing purdah in her room with a grave. Where was her purdah when She went to fight against Maulana Ali in the battle of Jamal
She went with Talha and Zubayr (no blood relation of hers) and at the head of the army to confront Maulana
Use your p brain
Prophet's widowa went in public with Burka. Bibi Aisha could not wear burka in her house all the time. So it is reportrd that she put curtain between Umar RA's grave and rest of chamber.

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by Muslim First » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:01 pm

Ali. Where did her concept of purdah go when she was on top of her camel urging her army to fight.
It was Maulana Ali's karam that he sent Ayesha back to Madina with her brother Mohammad bin Abu Bakr and a group of ladies dressed up as men to escort her all the way to Madina from Iraq
Please no Majlis Riwayat. Hadith reference please. especialy red part

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by level_headed » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:06 pm

You neatly sidestepped the issue of her leaving Madina at the head of the army. Climbing on top of a camel and exhorting her soldiers to fight against Maula Ali's army. Her actions reminds us of another lady who was exhorting her soldiers to fight in Uhud.
If she was found like this by Saudi mutawas of today she would have been caned for stepping out without mehram.

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by anajmi » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:08 pm

Shame on abde idiots for abusing the wife of the prophet (saw). May the prophet (saw) turn away from these mushriks on the day of judgment.

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by level_headed » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:09 pm

Wilfred Madelung : succession to Mohammad. Look up the battle of the camel

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by level_headed » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:23 pm

I also forgot to post about Imam Hasan's burial and his wish to be buried near the Prophet.
When Imam Husain tried to bury him there, Ayesha came on a mule and prevented the burial.
Per Imam Hasan's will(that if adversaries stop from burying near the Prophets grave) , Imam Husain buried him at Baqi beside Maulatena Fatema.
This prompted Farazdak the poet to remark that - against Ali you came on a camel, against Hasan you came on a mule and if you were alive then surely you would have come on an elephant against Husain

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by anajmi » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:52 pm

Probably 99% of these can be dismissed as shia fairy tales. Most of these fairy tales come from their idol worship of Hazrat Ali (ra).

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by profastian » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:12 am

Muslim First wrote:
ghulam muhammed wrote: I wouldnt like to spell out as to what you will get in return from Allah (swt) for your above act as the same is quite obvious to everyone but your dai must have surely given you hadiyat sharaf for this although it is another matter that the dai's father had gladly accepted a cadillac and buick from the ones who respect these sahabas !!
Br GH
you cannot extricate this mud bugs from their enviornment. They cannot live without mud. Just ignore them.

Deceased person does not care if somebody praises him, curses him, put flowers on his grave, p on it or spit on it.

BTW brother is a lier. Imagine him spitting towards graves and come out alive!
Here I am, alive and posting :? :?
And what with the post about Imam mehdi being in the progeny of Mohammad. I thought that you believed that Mohammad had no progeny :mrgreen:
And what with Ayesha doing pardah from a dead man. Are dead people capable of lusting after women :mrgreen:
You are such a confused idiot. Read the copied stuff before pasting it.
I am surprized that anyone on this forum takes this idiot seriously
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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by profastian » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:17 am

anajmi wrote:Probably 99% of these can be dismissed as shia fairy tales. Most of these fairy tales come from their idol worship of Hazrat Ali (ra).
So DW(demented wahabi), which 1% is true? about Ayesha being a dongi.
@AllAbdes,
Please call him DW(demented wahabi) from now on, he doesn't deserve the name najmuddin
@DW's parents
You can call him deemo :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by anajmi » Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:24 am

And what with Ayesha doing pardah from a dead man. Are dead people capable of lusting after women
Are dead people capable of talking to Muffi?
which 1% is true?
The 1% that you copy from Bukhari :wink:

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by Hanif » Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:20 pm

by Adam on Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:41 pm

@anajmi

That's very kind of you

Probably the nicest thing i've heard you say. Thank you.

(No pun intented, so no one make an issue out of this.) All smiles
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Bhai Adam,

He was referring to Sura 9 and Pooya Ali' s translation and commentary. The wahabi, Ibn Taymiyah and other Sunni scholars have accepted this belief so their followers also accept it.

Please read below:

False teachers and preachers try to distort the message of Allah by the false words (conjectures) of their mouths, so that they may put out the "light", for they are people of darkness and ignorance, but Allah has perfected His light- light implies the light of guidance completed and perfected at Ghadir Khum by declaring the wilayah of Imam Ali (see commentary of Ma-idah: 67).

Through the Holy Prophet and his Ahl ul Bayt, Allah made His (true) religion a signal success. For the men of understanding the true teaching of Islam is the best code of law for human society. The ultimate triumph of Islam will be witnessed when Imam Muhammad bin Hasan al Mahdi al Qa-im, the last true successor of the Holy Prophet, will come in this world, with the permission of Allah, to unite the whole mankind as a single community, to live in peace and harmony, doing away with injustice, exploitation and polytheism, guided by the divine laws made by Allah. The divine laws have been perfected and completed and named Islam, after which the laws given to other people in the days of earlier prophets, preceding the Holy Prophet, became inoperative and subservient to Islamic laws. In theory and practice Islamic laws and teachings surpass all creeds. However much the polytheists and the hypocrites may try to stop the ultimate victory of Islam under the guidance of the living Imam, the al Qa-im, it is certain to take place. Verse 28 of Fat-h and verse 9 of Saff also give the glad tidings of the ultimate victory of Islam when al Qa-im comes in this world.

Abu Dawud, Tirmidhi, Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Abu Yula, Hakim, Suyuti, Tabarani, Darqatni, Abu Nu-aym, Khatib and Ibn Asakir and many others have accepted the fact of the ultimate rule of Imam Mahdi, who is the last of the twelve successors of the Holy Prophet from among his Ahl ul Bayt. Even the precursor of Wahabi sect, Ibn Taymiyah, has accepted as true all the traditions pertaining to the "reign of Imam Muhammad bin Hasan al Mahdi" (refer to his book "Majmu-atul Fatawa".)



The twelvers believe that this is in reference to their Imam Mahdi who is in hiding.

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by Hanif » Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:37 pm

Muslim First wrote:Brother Fear Allah
AS
Here is what I found at this site http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthr ... Imam-Mehdi
From http://www.islam.tc
Imam Mahdi (Descendent of Prophet Muhammad PBUH)
by Mufti A.H. Elias and Mohammad Ali ibn Zubair Ali
Who Is Imam Mahdi?
Note: Please do not confuse Imam Mahdi with Hadhrat Isa (Jesus) Alayhis Salaam. They are two different persons, and both will come during the last days. According to Hadeeth, Imam Mahdi will appear first, and Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) will appear during Imam Mahdi's lifetime. Furthermore, only Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) will be able to kill Dajjal (the "anti-Christ").

The term "MAHDI" is a title meaning "The Guided one".

Hadhrat Abdullah bin Mas'ood (R.A.) says that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, "This world will not come to an end until one person from my progeny does not rule over the Arabs, and his name will be the same as my name." (Tirmidhi)
Hadhrat Ali (R.A.) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, "Even if only a day remains for Qiyamah to come, yet Allah will surely send a man from my family who will fill this world with such justice and fairness, just as it initally was filled with oppression." (Abu Dawood)
His Features
Hadhrat Abu Saeed Khudri (R.A.) relates that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, "Al Mahdi will be from my progeny. His forehead will be broad and his nose will be high. He will fill the world with justice and fairness at a time when the world will be filled with oppression. He will rule for seven years."
Other ahadeeth inform us that:
* He will be tall
* He will be fair complexioned
* His facial features will be similar to those of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam)
* His character will be exactly like that of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam)
* His father's name will be Abdullah
* His mother's name will be Aamina
* He will speak with a slight stutter and occasionally this stutter will frustrate him causing him to hit his hand upon his thigh.
* His age at the time of his emergence will be forty years
* He will receive Knowledge from Allah.
His Emergence and Rule
Hadhrat Umme Salmah (R.A.) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, " After the death of a Ruler there will be some dispute between the people. At that time a citizen of Madina will flee (from Madinah) and go to Makkah. While in Makkah, certain people will approach him between Hajrul Aswad and Maqaame Ibraheem, and forcefully pledge their allegiance to him.
Thereafter a huge army will proceed from Syria to attack him but when they will be at Baida, which is between Makkah and Madina, they will be swallowed into the ground.
On seeing this, the Abdaals of Shaam as well as large numbers of people from Iraq will come to him and pledge their allegiance to him. Then a person from the Quraish, whose uncle will be from the Bani Kalb tribe will send an army to attack him, only to be overpowered, by the will of Allah. This (defeated) army will be that of the Bani Kalb. Unfortunate indeed is he who does not receive a share from the booty of the Kalb. This person (Imam Mahdi) will distribute the spoils of war after the battle. He will lead the people according to the Sunnat and during his reign Islam will spread throughout the world. He will remain till seven years (since his emergence). He will pass away and the Muslims will perform his Janazah salaat." (Abu Dawood)
According to a Hadeeth, Sayyidena Eesa (A.S.) will lead the Janaazah of Imam Mahdi (A.S.).
While the people will be pledging their allegiance to Imaam Mahdi, a voice from the unseen will call out:
"This is the representative of Allah,
The Mahdi, listen to him and obey him"
This announcement which will be heard by all those present will establish his authenticity. Another sign which will indicate the authenticity of Imaam Mahdi wil be that in the Ramadhaan prior to his emergence an eclipse of the sun and moon will occur.
Hadhrat Abu Umamah (R.A.) says that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "There will be four peace agreements between you and the Romans. The fourth agreement will be mediated through a person who will be from the progeny of Hadhrat Haroon (A.S.) and will be upheld for seven years."
The people asked: "O Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam), who will be the Imaam of the people at the time?"
Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "He will be from my progeny and will be forty years of age. His face will shine like a star and he will have a black spot on his left cheek. He will don two "Qutwaani" cloaks and will appear exactly as a person from the Bani Israeel..." (Tabrani)
According to hadith narrated by Abu Saeed Khudri (R.A.) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "...(regarding the rule of Imaam Mahdi) the skies will rain down in abundance and the earth will yield forth its crop in abundance, and those alive will desire that those who have already passed away should have been alive to enjoy this prosperity..."
Hadhrat Buraidah (R.A.) says that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "There will be many armies after me. You must join that army which will come from Khurasaan." (Ibn Adi)
Abu Hurairah (R.A.) says that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "(Armies carrying) black flags will come from Khurasaan. No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Eela (Baitul Maqdas) where they will erect their flags."
from: "Signs of Qiyamah"
by Mohammed Ali Ibn Zubair Ali
More Hadeeth (with references) (contributed by Bradley Bilal).
1) The Prophet (PBUH and HF) said: "Even if the entire duration of the world's existence has already been exhausted and only one day is left (before the day of judgment), Allah will expand that day to such a length of time, as to accommodate the kingdom of a person from my Ahlul-Bayt who will be called by my name. He will fill out the earth with peace and justice as it will have been full of injustice and tyranny (by then)."
References:
Sahih al-Tirmidhi, v2, p86, v9, pp 74-75
Sunan Abu Dawud, v2, p7
Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v1, pp 84,376; V3, p63
2) The Prophet (PBUH and HF) said: "al-Mahdi is one of us, the members of the household (Ahlul-Bayt)."
reference: Sunan Ibn Majah, v2, Tradition #4085
3) The Prophet (PBUH and HF) said: The Mahdi will be of my family, of the descendants of Fatimah (the daughter of the Prophet (PBUH)).
References:
Sunan Abu Dawud, English version, Ch. 36, Tradition #4271 (narrated by Umm Salama, the wife of the Prophet)
Sunan Ibn Majah, v2, Tradition #4086
4) The Prophet (PBUH and HF) said: "We (I and my family) are members of a household that Allah (SWT) has chosen for them the life of the Hereafter over the life of this world; and the members of my household (Ahlul-Bayt) shall suffer a great affliction and they shall be forcefully expelled from their homes after my death; then there will come people from the East carrying black flags, and they will ask for some good to be given to them, but they shall be refused service; as such, they will wage war and emerge victorious, and will be offered that which they desired in the first place, but they will refuse to accept it till they pass it to a man from my family (Ahlul-Bayt) appears to fill the Earth with justice as it has been filled with corruption. So whoever reaches that (time) ought to come to them even if crawling on the ice/snow since among them is the Vice-regent of Allah (Khalifatullah) al-Mahdi."
References:
Sunan Ibn Majah, v2, Tradition #4082,
The History Tabari
al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar, Ch. 11, section 1, pp 250-251
5) Abu Nadra reported: We were with the company of Jabir Ibn Abdillah... Jabir Ibn Abdillah kept quite for a while and then reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) having said: "There would be a Caliph in the last (period) of my Ummah who would freely give handfuls of wealth to the people without counting it." I said to Abu Nadra and Abu al-Ala: Do you mean Umar Ibn Abd al-Aziz? They said: NO, (he would be Imam Mahdi).
References:
Sahih Muslim, English version, v4, chapter MCCV, p1508, Tradition #6961
Sahih Muslim, Arabic version, Kitab al-Fitan, v4, p2234, Tradition #67
6) "al-Mahdi is from our Ahlul-Bayt, no doubt Allah will enforce his appearance within a night (i.e., his coming is very unpredictable and is very sudden)."
References: Sunan Ibn Majah, v2, p269
Compiled from various sources by Islam.tc, webmaster@islam.tc

The Shia belief is very different from the Sunni belief of the Imam Al Mahdi
We believe that he was born already of Imam Al Askari (the 11th Imam). He will be dark complected but still resimble the Prophet. He is free from sins (like all the prophets and 12 imams). He will be praying at the Kabah with Nabi Issa. The signs leading up to his return are many.
It soes not mean we dwell on it everyday or pray for this mehdi to appear.

Can we move this to a different subject, viz, Prediction for the coming of Al-Mahdi

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by Muslim First » Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:50 pm

Hanif
Can we move this to a different subject, viz, Prediction for the coming of Al-Mahdi
Please proceed

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by SBM » Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:04 pm

Can this thread be moved to Islam today

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by Hanif » Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:38 pm

I went there and spat on their graves.
Next time you pick up the Qur'an to read after fajar prayers, please remember, Qur'an was compiled by Hazarat Umar RA and other sahabas. Now, would you spit on that?

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by Hanif » Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:39 pm

SBM wrote:Can this thread be moved to Islam today

Sure. Can you please oblige. Thanks.

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by Muslim First » Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:48 pm

Hanif wrote:
I went there and spat on their graves.
Next time you pick up the Qur'an to read after fajar prayers, please remember, Qur'an was compiled by Hazarat Umar RA and other sahabas. Now, would you spit on that?
It was stupid comment and lie. Nobody however hatefull he is will survive such an open act

Left alone hateful human being are capable of doing anything.

We are still discussing events which happened some 1300 years ago and there seems no end,

Please let me know when Mehdi is coming. I can't hold my breath that long.

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by Muslim First » Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:50 pm

Next time you pick up the Qur'an to read after fajar prayers, please remember, Qur'an was compiled by Hazarat Umar RA and other sahabas. Now, would you spit on that?
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No true Imam has correct version including Sura on vilayat

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by Hanif » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:15 pm

MF: Please let me know when Mehdi is coming. I can't hold my breath that long.
He came and left. Don't ask me when, you won't believe it. So let us leave it at that. Go ahead and breath easy! You don't have to worry about Mahdi any more.

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by Hanif » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:28 pm

Muslim First wrote:
Next time you pick up the Qur'an to read after fajar prayers, please remember, Qur'an was compiled by Hazarat Umar RA and other sahabas. Now, would you spit on that?
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No true Imam has correct version including Sura on vilayat
Who is talking about Sura on Vilayat??? If you read something now and want to start a discussion on Sura on Vilayat, please do so under another thread. We will meet you there. Don't create thread within the thread.


How can you be so sure that no true Imam has correct version? Do you have the current version? Enlighten us please!

MF: You know what is sad is that you cut and paste stuff from websites that are pro-Sunni and propogate them as your own knowledge to the unsuspecting bohoras on this site. When you cut and paste stuff at least give the source so you do not look like "a copy cat"....... Also, when you ask people to go to the links, please make sure you have read those links yourself before making a tamasha of your source like that Ibn Ishaq and his Sirat......

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by Muslim First » Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:23 am

Hanif Wrote in post #46 on Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:40 am

I just wasted my time reading Sirat Ibn Hisham. I read up to page 33 and then stopped because this is what I found:

Ibn-Ishaq said, “Among things which reached me about that which had beeen revealed to Isa, the Son of Mary in the Gospel for his followers described the messenger of Allah (pbuh), according to Yuhannas, the Apostle when he inscribed the Gospel for them from the Testament of Isa, the son of Mary, concerning the Messenger of Allah (pbuh), that he said, “He who hates me, hates the Lord. Except for that I had done in their presence things that no one had done before me, they would have not had a sin. However, now they are discontented and think that they will overcome me….But when the Manhamanna,who Allah (?) (Does Bible refer to God as Allah) will send to you and who is sacred spirit from the Lord, comes, he will be a witness of me and you also because you were with me in the past. I am telling you about this not to have any doubt

When we read early Islamic text we have to pay attention:
It says “Among things which reached me about”

He talks about account reached to him, what I understand is oral account not something he read in a copy of Bible.

(?) (Does Bible refer to God as Allah)

Christians living in Arab lands did and still do call God as Allah

I read up to page 33 and then stopped because this is what I found:

Too bad, your loss not mine. Being a partisan Shia you will not find any literature which challenges your beliefs palatable

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Re: An Islamic Treatise on the Necessity of the Imamate

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Unread post by profastian » Wed May 09, 2012 5:18 pm

Muslim First wrote:
Hanif wrote: Next time you pick up the Qur'an to read after fajar prayers, please remember, Qur'an was compiled by Hazarat Umar RA and other sahabas. Now, would you spit on that?
It was stupid comment and lie. Nobody however hatefull he is will survive such an open act

Left alone hateful human being are capable of doing anything.

We are still discussing events which happened some 1300 years ago and there seems no end,

Please let me know when Mehdi is coming. I can't hold my breath that long.
Alive and posting MF :mrgreen:
I spat in front of the khuddam. Had to dish out a LOT of dough though. But it was certainly worth it.
@FinanciallyStrongUmarHaters
I can arrange an spit session if you are willing to dish out. PM me if interested :mrgreen: :mrgreen: