Who REALLY Produced The Anti Islam Film,"Desert Warrior" ?

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Who REALLY Produced The Anti Islam Film,"Desert Warrior" ?

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:14 pm

Who REALLY Produced the Film 'Desert Warrior' That Is Now Convulsing the Middle East?

Bear in mind this movie did not sell a single ticket when it was screened. Now it is the most important film on the planet.

In addition to our write-up about this film there are now several other reports questioning the cast of characters surrounding "Desert Warrior" (now called "Innocence of Muslims") and the creation of the film itself, which looks as if it has been "repurposed" in a very clumsy way to further "incite" the Arab world. Given the clumsiness and obviousness of the film's manipulation, we confront a further fact of this Internet era, which is that the power elite is hardly bothering to hide its tracks anymore. Having been discovered and dissected, the powers-that-be show us they intend to continue with business as usual. It is a kind of intimidation. "Yes, you understand what we do, but it doesn't matter. You cannot stop us." In fact, this approach bodes terrible violence as the elites are giving up any pretense at justifying their actions. And manipulation without even a pretense of morality likely cannot stand.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:22 pm

Sinister September: Zionist anti-Islam plot simmering

The month of September has witnessed an accelerated trend of coordinated attempts in desecrating Islam and tarnishing the image of the Muslims across the globe.

That a blasphemous movie desecrating the person of the holy Prophet of Islam has been released in the United States simultaneously with the 9/11 tragic incident cannot be looked upon as sheer coincidence.

In the documentary, he has included Patricia Crone, an infamous pseudo-scholar affiliated to the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton who has intensely voiced her seasoned antagonism against Islam in the past. In ‘Hagarism: The Making of the Islamic World’ which she coauthored with her associate Michael Cook, Crone fallaciously argues that the Holy Quran was composed, possibly in Syria or Iraq, more than fifty years after the Prophet's death and ascribed to the Prophet. Crone also says that the Holy Book was fabricated during the reign of Caliph Abdul Malik (685-705) in an attempt to legitimize an expanding empire. The authors refer to early Muslims as Hagarenes, the descendants of Prophet Abraham by Hagar in order to differentiate them from the Jews, who are the descendants of Abraham by Sarah.

As a matter of fact, there are influential parties in the UK which are actively engaged in disseminating the seeds of antagonism against Islam. A representative group which is funded by the Zionist Jews and Christians in the UK is the English Defense League (EDL). The group has over the recent years developed multiple sister branches in Europe and America. With their main agenda to foster enmity against the Muslim community in any part of the world, the EDL naturally spares no efforts in their hate-mongering campaign, defiling the name of Islam and inviting their members to crusade against the Muslims.


One of the wicked spawns of this pervert group is Norwegian Anders Behring Breivik who went on a shooting spree and killed 77 innocent people in 2011 in Norway. He reportedly had hundreds of EDL members as Facebook friends. The NDL or Norwegian Defense League is a sister organization of the EDL. The two organizations are practically run and managed by one single person and the two follow the same policy. On a number of occasions, members of the NDL have travelled to the UK to receive training or instructions from the EDL.

In October 2010, American Rabbi Nachum Shifren, went to the UK where he was warmly received by the EDL members whom he described as “one group in England with moral courage.” In his hate speech, he spewed out the most loathsome words, and referred to the Muslims as dogs that “eat each other alive.”

He told EDL, “History will be recorded that on this day, read by our children for eternity, one group lit the spark to liberate us from the oppressors of our two governments and the leftist, fifth column, quisling press, and that it was the EDL which started the liberation of England from evil."

It is manifest that these evil forces work hand in hand to spread hatred and stoke violence.

Also, firebrand American pastor Terry Jones who has long been making strenuous efforts to legitimize the burning of the Holy Quran and whose call to fight Islam has resulted in a number of deaths is closely connected with the EDL.

On September 11, Terry Jones had a live stream on the internet where he showed about a 13-minute promotional clip of the blasphemous film the ‘Innocence of Muslims’ which is purportedly directed by an American Jew called Sam Bacile, a real estate developer, who claims he has received USD 5 million from 100 Jews for making the film. Though the real identity of the director has remained unknown, there are good reasons to believe that such a person does not exist and that the film may have been made by the pastor himself as it is devoid of any cinematic technicality and that those involved in the film are a bunch of paid hate-mongers in service of Zionism. No wonder, Terry Jones so passionately defends the film and has brought it to the attention of international community.

Spearheaded by calculated directives, Terry Jones is not a lunatic in the common sense of the word. Nor is he a sociopath. In fact, he is a trained Mossad agent tasked with pushing ahead a dangerous agenda in the Muslim world. In 2011, he burned copies of the Holy Qur’an and posted the video on the internet which provoked a very strong reaction, leading to the death of nine people.

Is there not a sinister across-the-board plan in the offing?

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:48 pm

YouTube refuses to take down video that caused murder of US ambassador in Libya

Even after the killing of an American ambassador in Libya, YouTube refused to take down the video that enraged Muslims around the world. Instead it blocked access to the 14-minute clip in the two countries where American embassies were attacked.

­Due to an executive decision by YouTube, Internet users in Egypt and Libya will be unable to access the video that sparked public outrage in those countries over claims that it insulted the prophet Muhammad, AP reports.

The low-budget, amateur film, entitled "Innocence of Muslims," runs for 14 minutes and portrays Muhammad as a womanizer who approved of pedophilia.

The video was posted in early July by a user calling himself Sam Bacile. It received only a handful of views for two months, when suddenly it was dubbed into Arabic – then shown on Egyptian television, enraging conservative Muslim viewers.

http://rt.com/usa/news/youtube-video-us-libya-007/

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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:52 pm

The movie is rubbish and offenseive

But the fanatical idiots rioting , killing, writing stupid slogans in protest marches calling themselves muslims are insulting Islam more. One provoker has provoked thousands of fools.

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Unread post by anajmi » Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:03 pm

An anlogy comes to mind.

I remember when we were young and went to the zoo, the most beloved sight was the sight of the lion. We would watch the lion lazying around doing nothing. In India, where the security isn't much, we would throw things at the lion to get a reaction out of him. If the lion did nothing, we would walk away in a couple of minutes and those that followed us, didn't even try. That is the case of the muslims today. People are throwing rocks at them to see them react like monkeys and these muslims oblige them every time. If they were to keep their emotions in check, these asswipes would dissappear and imperialists wouldn't get further excuses to oppress the middle eastern nations to steal their oil.

Now, get ready to cover your noses.

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Unread post by salim » Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:58 pm

I think this is clashes of ignorance. West does not understand that in Muslim world and also in entire east people loves free speech but they also understand that it comes with responsibilities. In non-western countries you don't get free speech if you are not responsible.

Non-western countries does not understand that, in US there is personal opinion and there is collective opinion. They think that if a person is not getting punished for their personal opinion that is because that is collective opinion of entire country.

Regardless of who made the move, as a human being t is very wrong to kill people who are no where related to this movie. As a Muslim you can't even kill or harass the person who made that movie. History is proof that when Muhammad was insulted he was humble, forgiving and caring. We all know the story of a lady who used to throw garbage at Muhammad (S.A.W). What's going wrong with Muhammad's Ummah now.

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Unread post by Peace » Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:11 am

I very much agree with Salim.

Also in my opinion why kill anyone for his misdeeds? He will face punishment on the day of judgement.

Why we become a judge and give sentence of someones killing? who gave us right to become a judge?

Again my question is did companions of Prophet Muhammad PBUH killed anyone for misbehaving with Prophet Muhammad PBUH?

We know that Prophet Muhammad PBUH face hardships in propagating Islam.

Where it is written to kill a person for blasphemy?

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Unread post by pheonix » Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:07 am

Peace wrote:I very much agree with Salim.

Also in my opinion why kill anyone for his misdeeds? He will face punishment on the day of judgement.

Why we become a judge and give sentence of someones killing? who gave us right to become a judge?

Again my question is did companions of Prophet Muhammad PBUH killed anyone for misbehaving with Prophet Muhammad PBUH?

We know that Prophet Muhammad PBUH face hardships in propagating Islam.

Where it is written to kill a person for blasphemy?
In anajmi's local wahabi mulla's personal Quran

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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:51 am

The consequences a local news paper opinion about how muslims reaacted.

OPINION


Angry protests in Sydney triggered by film
Police gas Sydney protesters angered by a US film, Innocence of Islam

HAVE we Sydney-siders got this straight?

Because on the other side of the Pacific, somewhere in California, some loser has thrown together some kind of amateur internet video insulting your particular god, you think it justifiable to:

Take over the Sydney CBD.
Cause willful damage to property.
Throw rocks at police officers who are doing nothing more than their duty.
Hold up such ludicrous signs as “Behead all those who insult the prophet.”
We have to ask: Do you have the first clue as to the ramifications of your actions? Do you not understand that the net result of such irresponsible, appalling action is to give ample fuel to every racist in the country to reinforce every bad stereotype they have ever had of you, and that will affect badly the hundreds of thousands of other peaceful and law-abiding Islamic Australians?

In short, WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING?!

Get this straight, and quickly: some of you may be from countries where this kind of thing is acceptable. But it is NOT acceptable in this country.

In this country you are free to worship whatever god you damn well please. Others are free to worship their gods.

And I am free to say it is all nonsense over imaginary friends.

But you are not free to create the mayhem you did yesterday, simply because you don't like a freaking video!

Racists have said for years, “If you don't like the way we do things here, go back to where you came from.” The net result of your actions yesterday is that – for those people specifically disgracing themselves in the CBD yesterday, not the vast bulk of Islamic Australians – much of the country now feels the same.

Nice work.
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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:47 pm

WHERE do I start? Perhaps with the viral image that will come to define this episode: a child who'd be three or four hoisting a sign triumphantly above his head blaring ''Behead all those who insult the Prophet'' while a woman, presumably his mother, thinks this is cute enough to capture on her smartphone. Alternatively, I could begin with the observation that the trailer for the anti-Islamic film that ostensibly started this all, Innocence of Muslims, is now a blockbuster, with YouTube hits in the millions thanks largely to the protesters around the world who think nobody should see it.

No. Let's start with the fact that so few of the protesters who descended on Sydney's CBD this weekend seem actually to have seen the film that so gravely offends them. When asked by journalists, they bluntly admit this, one even adding that she refuses to watch something so offensive. It's almost impressive how cyclical this stupidity is. But it's also instructive. In fact, this is the key to making sense of something so gobsmackingly senseless. The protesters - at least the ones quoted in news reports - know nothing except how offended they are.

That, you see, is all that matters. This isn't about a film. It's about an excuse. We know because we've seen it all before, like when Pakistani protesters vandalised American fast food outlets and burnt effigies of President George W. Bush in response to the Danish cartoons.

We know because so much of the weekend's ranting was nakedly gratuitous: ''Our dead are in paradise, your dead are in hell''. Pardon? Which dead? Weren't we talking about a movie?

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This is the behaviour of a drunkenly humiliated people: swinging wildly with the hope of landing a blow, any blow, somewhere, anywhere. There's nothing strategic or calculated about this. It doesn't matter that they are the film's most effective publicists. It doesn't matter that they protest using offensive slogans and signs, while protesting against people's right to offend. It doesn't matter that they object to insulting people on the basis of their religion, while declaring that Christians have no morals. This is baffling only until you realise these protesters are not truly protesting to make a point. The protest is the point.

It feels good. It feels powerful. This is why people yell pointlessly or punch walls when frustrated. It's not instrumental. It doesn't achieve anything directly. But it is catharsis. Outrage and aggression is an intoxicating prospect for the powerless.

Accordingly, it is not an option to leave an insult unanswered because that is a sign of weakness, rather than transcendence.

The irony is that it grants an extraordinary level of power to those doing the offending. It puts them constantly at the centre of your world. That's why, when Gallup polled 35 Muslim majority countries, it found that of all the gripes the Muslim world has against the West, among the most pervasive is the West's ''disrespect for Islam''.

And it is this disrespect that is the overarching grievance that subsumes others. Everything, global and local, can be thrown into this vortex: Swiss minaret bans, French niqab bans, military invasions, drone strikes, racist stereotyping, anti-immigrant politics, and yes, even films so ridiculously bad that, left to their own devices, they would simply lampoon themselves.

This is what gives Innocence of Muslims meaning: not its content, but its context. It's a symbol of contempt, which is why protests against it so quickly turn into an orgy of anti-Americanism. So, ''Obama, Obama, we love Osama'' they scream, mainly because it's the most offensive rhyme they can muster. Osama, too, is a symbol; the most repugnant one in their arsenal. How better to prove you exist than to say something outrageous?

That the Obama administration immediately condemned the film in the strongest terms doesn't register. Nor that the White House took the extraordinary (and ultimately unsuccessful) step of asking Google to pull the video. This is invisible to an audience of humiliated souls waiting desperately to be offended and conflate every grievance. Indeed, they need the offence. It gives them the chance to assert themselves so they can feel whole, righteous even. It's a shortcut to self-worth.

The trouble is that in our digital world, there is always something to oblige. Anyone can Google their prejudices, and there is always enraging news to share with others. Entire online communities gather around the sharing of offensive material and subsequent communal venting. Soon you have a subculture: a sub-community whose very cohesion is based almost exclusively on shared grievance. Then you have an identity that has nothing to say about itself; an identity that holds an entirely impoverished position: that to be defiantly angry is to be.

Frankly, Muslims should find that prospect nothing short of catastrophic. It renders Islamic identity entirely hollow. All pride, all opposition, no substance. ''Like the Incredible Hulk,'' observes Abdal Hakim Murad, a prominent British Islamic scholar, ''ineffectual until provoked.''

Sometimes you need a scandal to demonstrate an underlying disease. And that's the good news here. The vast bulk of Saturday's protesters were peaceful, and Muslim community organisations are lining up to condemn the outbreak of violence. But now a more serious conversation is necessary. One that's not about how we should be speaking out to defend our prophet and ourselves. One that's more about whether we can speak about anything else.

Waleed Aly hosts the Drive program on ABC Radio National and is a lecturer in politics.


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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:22 pm

Twin Cities Muslim leaders condemn overseas violence

It was time for Muslims to gather at a north Minneapolis mosque, and Makram El-Amin had something more than weekly Friday prayers on his mind.

Deadly protests at U.S. embassies were spreading from Libya and Egypt to the Sudan and elsewhere. El-Amin and Muslim leaders across the Twin Cities felt called to condemn the violence.

"There is great angst and great anger in the Muslim world today from a film on the Internet that speaks ill of Mohammed," El-Amin, the imam, told worshippers at Masjid An-Nur. "We don't accept it and we do take offense to it. We love Mohammed. We love him! But sometimes if your love for him is not tempered -- is not put into perspective -- that love can become distorted.

"Whether we agree or disagree with something, we are to do it with honor. ... The question is: What would Mohammed do?"

As protests expanded worldwide over an anti-Islam film produced in the United States, metro-area Muslims sought to define the line between Islamic principles that calls for reverence for all prophets and free speech in a country where the TV show "South Park" could feature Jesus as a comic character and the movie "The Last Temptation of Christ" played despite protests from offended Christians and the Roman Catholic Church.

Hamdy El-Sawaf has seen portions of the provocative, cheaply made Mohammed video and finds it vile. "We're totally against mocking any of the prophets or messengers," said El-Sawaf, president of the board of the Islamic Community Center of Minnesota.

Even so, he sees no excuse for the murder and violence the video has unleashed.

"These are emotional reactions to what is going on [in the Muslim world]. It is not part of the teaching of Islam," he said. "We're totally against such a thing."

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:31 pm

CAIR Releases Arabic Video Appeal on Anti-Islam Film Protests

(WASHINGTON, D.C., 9/15/12) -- The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today released a video appeal in Arabic to those protesting an anti-Islam film, portions of which have been circulating on the Internet.

In the video, CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awad tells viewers in the Middle East that ordinary Americans and the U.S. government should not be blamed for the religious hatred expressed in the film.

[NOTE: In 2011, Awad was included on the "Power 500" list compiled by Arabian Business Magazine. In 2009, he was recognized among the world's "500 Most Influential Muslims" by the Jordan-based Royal Islamic Strategic Studies Center.]

He explains that the low-quality production was designed to provoke religious sensitivities and to distract from the positive efforts being undertaken to improve newly-free societies in the wake of the Arab Spring.

Awad's appeal notes that the controversy over the film distracts from more important issues such as the struggle for freedom in Syria, the need for justice for the Palestinian people and ongoing killings of Muslims in Burma.

He quoted a verse in the Quran, Islam's revealed text, which states that no soul will carry the burdens of another and asked viewers to emulate Islam's Prophet Muhammad, who did not retaliate in kind to personal abuse. He also urged protesters to put their energies into rebuilding their societies.

Awad's video appeal was filmed against a backdrop of a verse from the Quran, which states: "A goodly word (is) like a goodly tree, whose root is firmly fixed and its branches (reach) to the heavens." (14:24)

It ends with the recitation of a verse from the Quran: "You have indeed in the Messenger of God [Muhammad] a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in God and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of God." (33:21)

Earlier this week, CAIR condemned the killings of American diplomats in Libya and said that extremists must not be allowed to control the political and religious discourse worldwide.

CAIR made that statement at a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C., at which representatives of CAIR and other Muslim organizations condemned both the killings of the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other diplomats in that nation and the attack on the American embassy in Egypt.

CAIR had previously called on Muslims in the Middle East to ignore the distribution of the "trashy" anti-Islam film that resulted in the attacks in Libya, Egypt and other nations throughout the Muslim world.

CAIR is America's largest Muslim civil liberties and advocacy organization. Its mission is to enhance the understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims, and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding.

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Unread post by Fateh » Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:19 am

The share of Allama Iqabal sir is very relevant for our Muslims situation
KUTCHH BAAT HAI KE HASTI MITATI NAHI HAMARI
SADIYON RAHA HAI DUSHAMAN DAURE JANHA HAMARA

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Unread post by Muslim First » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:17 pm

Br Fateh

Mulla led Muslims do not care about Allama Iqubals poetry.

for Muslims of Indo Pak, In fact his poetry is for listening and enjoying not for implimation

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:00 pm

the prophet of islam endured insults, humiliation, vilification, abuse and violence for years, yet he suffered them patiently, he did not take up arms or retaliate with revengeful acts or language. instead he set out to make his enemies his friends, to reason with them, to help them and set an example to them from his own life, behaviour, conduct, integrity and piety.

what the muslims of today are doing is a disservice to islam and its prophet. they are like stupid pawns in the hands of sinister powers who conspire against them. they have lost all reason and wisdom to comprehend the bigger plots being hatched against them. as anajmi says, as kids we too took great pleasure pelting stones at the monkeys in the zoo on early sunday mornings when there few visitors about and there was low risk of being caught. as expected, the monkeys were so predictable. provoked, they would pick up the stones and hurl them back at unsuspecting and innocent spectators who came later, because we had already disappeared!

what the muslim world demonstrates is its intolerance, immaturity and uncivilised behaviour.

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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:28 am

The telling moment in court on Tuesday was when supporters of a young Muslim man charged with affray during a demonstration in Sydney on Saturday stayed in their seats when the magistrate entered the court. It was an act of disrespect for Australian law. These men respect sharia. They want to live under the caliphate of Islam.
Instead, they inhabit the caliphate of the mind. They are members of a strand of Muslim fundamentalists who live in the West and exploit the West while despising the West.
To justify their own hypocrisy of not living under Sharia, they exist in a permanent twilight of victimhood. Thus it was inevitable Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia, the organisation at the heart of Saturday's flash of religious hatred, issued a statement yesterday that was a classic of blame-shifting and victimology:
''We affirm that primary responsibility for what occurred [the violence] lies squarely on the powerful institutions of society, media and the political establishment in particular, which continually attack Islam and Muslims, creating the grievances that give rise to such incidents, isolating youth, and causing social tension.''
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This passive-aggressive self-pity is used to justify cultural bigotry, religious intolerance and gratuitous violence.
A defender of this belligerent narcissism was published on these pages yesterday - a doctoral student at the University of Melbourne, Mohamad Tabbaa, who, his biography said, ''researches issues of discrimination against Muslim minority groups in the West, particularly Australia''.
This is classic victimology. Any grudge jockey who wants to look for discrimination is going to find it. No problem. Given Tabbaa's focus on Muslims as victims, it is likely he will avert his gaze from the greatest source of intolerance involving Muslims in Australia, which is intolerance by Muslims. I could point him to hundreds of pages of examples of bastardry by Muslims living in this country.
He certainly averted his gaze from inconvenient facts in his opinion piece. In justifying the violent conduct and sympathy for jihad exhibited by scores of demonstrators, Tabbaa offers this chilling rationalisation:
''To begin with, many Muslims in Australia do not simply give up their identity as belonging to a global community merely because they happen to live in Australia. Many have not bought the liberal idea of individualism, and so see events happening on the other side of the planet as personally related to them.''
We already got that. We get that ''many Muslims'' don't identify with being Australian as their primary identity. We get the rejection of liberalism.
He offered a list of grievances which offend those who inhabit the caliphate of the mind, the oppression of Muslims in Afghanistan, Iraq, Burma, China, the Palestinian territories, Kashmir, Guantanamo Bay and Chechnya.
The problem with this list is that it ignores the central reality of the oppression of Muslims: the overwhelming amount of oppression of Muslims is by Muslims.
Yes, millions of Muslims have been murdered, assassinated, attacked, sexually assaulted, intimidated and otherwise silenced in the past year. And the year before that. And the year before that. That is because right now, Muslims are attacking and killing other Muslims in Syria, Libya, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Mali, Indonesia, Yemen, Afghanistan and the Palestinian territories. Muslims are also attacking or intimidating Christians in Egypt, Iraq, Nigeria and Syria. Right now, in several European countries with large Muslim immigrant populations, Muslims are well overrepresented in prisons.
All this is airbrushed out of the narrative of Muslim victimology by the nebulous accusation of ''Islamophobia'' in the West.
Nonsense. The broader context of life for Muslims in Australia is that they enjoy a verifiable and generous accommodation of their needs. They make up a significant proportion of the immigrant stream. They are significantly overrepresented among those granted refugee or asylum status, and also among those who receive welfare benefits. They enjoy religious freedom, democracy and free speech in ways most Muslims, under the governance of Muslims, do not. Very few cases of hate crimes against Muslims have been seen in the Australian courts.
That did not stop Tabbaa and others in recent days from heaping scorn on Muslim leaders who build bridges to the wider community. He ironically mocked leaders who condemned Saturday's violent stupidity as ''superheroes''. Yet his own alternative melted into vague waffle and platitudes.
The Islamophobia whine has been flogged to death. It's become self-parody.


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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:13 pm

Protest turns violent, city police chief shifted

Muslims rally against the controversial film for the fifth day

On a day when Chennai witnessed yet another anti-U.S. protest that turned violent, city Police Commissioner J.K. Tripathy was transferred.

The transfer came days after the U.S. mission in the city was attacked by a large crowd of Muslims protesting against the controversial film Innocence of Muslims. The protesters almost entered the consulate after breaching the security cordon with ease.

The stretch of Anna Salai from the Mount Road Dargah to Spencer Plaza, was a scene of violence, as the police resorted to lathi- charge to control members of various Islamic organisations who had hurled stones at the police.

On the fifth day of the protest against the American film, over 5,000 people belonging to nearly 25 Islamic organisations gathered near Holy Dargah Hazrath Syed Moosa Sha Khaderi, popularly called Mount Road Dargah, around 3.30 p.m. They shouted slogans against U.S. President Barack Obama; flung footwear at his pictures and burnt his effigies and the American flag.

“Muslims across the city came together to show how unfair it is to ridicule the prophet who is dearer than our lives.”

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:31 pm

Peace Be Upon You
Internet videos will insult your religion. Ignore them.


By William Saletan

Dear Muslims, Christians, Hindus, and Jews, You’re living in the age of the Internet. Your religion will be mocked, and the mockery will find its way to you. Get over it. If you don’t, what’s happening this week will happen again and again. A couple of idiots with a video camera and an Internet connection will trigger riots across the globe. They’ll bait you into killing one
another.

Stop it. Stop following their script.

Today, fury, violence, and bloodshed are consuming the Muslim world. Why? Because a bank fraud artist in California offered people $75 a day to come to his house and act out scenes that ostensibly had nothing to do with Islam. Then he replaced the audio, putting words in the actors’ mouths, and stitched together the scenes to make an absurdly bad movie ridiculing the Prophet Mohammed. He put out flyers to promote the movie. Nobody—literally nobody—came to watch it.
He posted a 14-minute video excerpt of the movie on YouTube, but hardly anyone noticed. Then, a week ago, an anti-Muslim activist in Virginia reposted the video with an Arabic translation and sent the link to activists and journalists in Egypt. An Egyptian TV show aired part of the video. An Egyptian politician denounced it. Clerics sounded the alarm. Through Facebook and Twitter, protesters were mobilized to descend on the U.S. embassy in Cairo. The uprising spread. The U.S. ambassador to Libya has been killed, and violence has engulfed other countries.

When the protests broke out, the guy who made the movie claimed to be an Israeli Jew funded by other Jews. That turned out be a lie. Now he says he’s a Coptic Christian, even though Coptic Christian leaders in Egypt and the United States despise the movie and want nothing to do with him. Another guy who helped make the movie claims to be a Buddhist. The movie was made in the United States, yet Sudanese mobs have attacked British and German embassies. Some Egyptians targeted the Dutch embassy, mistakenly thinking the Netherlands was behind the movie. Everyone’s looking for a group to blame and attack.

The men behind the movie said it would expose Islam as a violent religion. Now they’re pointing to the riots as proof. Muslims are “pre-programmed” to rage and kill, says the movie’s promoter. “Islam is a cancer,” says the director. According to the distributor, “The violence that it caused in Egypt is further evidence of how violent the religion and people are and it is evidence that everything in the film is factual.”

Congratulations, rioters. You followed the script perfectly. You did the propagandists’ work for them.

And the provocations won’t end here. Laws and censors won’t protect you from them. Liberal democracies allow freedom of expression. Our leaders and people condemn garbage like this video, but we don’t censor it. Even if we did, the diffusion of media technology makes suppression impossible. The director of this movie was forbidden, under his bank-fraud probation rules, from using computers or the Internet without approval. That didn’t stop him. Nor did it stop the
Arabic-language distributor from reposting the video and disseminating it abroad.

Online propaganda is speech. But it’s also part of the global rise of lethal empowerment. It’s easier than ever to kill people. In Muslim countries, mass murderers favor bombs. In the United States, they prefer guns. In Japan, they’ve tried sarin nerve gas. The Oklahoma City bomber used fertilizer. The Sept. 11 hijackers used box cutters and passenger planes. Then came the letters filled with anthrax. Derision is that much harder to control. The spread of digital technology and Internet bandwidth makes it possible to reach every corner of the globe almost instantly with homemade video defaming any faith tradition. It can become an incendiary weapon. But it has a weakness: It depends on you. You’re the detonator. If you don’t cooperate, the bomb doesn’t explode.

This isn’t just a Muslim problem, though that’s been the pattern lately. On YouTube, you can find videos insulting every religion on the planet: Jews, Christians, Hindus, Catholics, Mormons, Buddhists, and more. Some clips are ironic. Others are simply disgusting. Many were posted to bait one group into fighting another. The baiters are indiscriminate. The promoter of the Mohammed movie founded a group that also protests at Mormon temples.

The hatred and bloodshed will go on until you stop taking the bait. Mockery of your prophet on a computer with an Internet address somewhere in the world can no longer be your master. Nor can the puppet clerics who tell you to respond with violence. Lay down your stones and your anger. Go home and pray. God is too great to be troubled by the insults of fools. Follow Him.

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Re: Who REALLY Produced The Anti Islam Film,"Desert Warrior"

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:52 pm

Vicious Cycle of Islamophobia

By Ram Puniyani

We are going through strange times. While the science, technology and rationalism has given us physical and intellectual tools to better the lot of humanity, we are witnessing the production of provocative material, literature and films in particular, which demonize the particular religion, Islam to be precise, and the prophet of Islam. On the other hand there is a section of community, feeling threatened and insecure coming to the streets to protest against such humiliation and insult of their religion. There are debates on freedom of expression, but how come the freedom of expression always goes to humiliate and demonize one particular religion only?


Currently (September 2012), there are massive protests in different countries against the American embassies, resulting in death of four from the US staff, including Ambassador Chris Stevens, in Benghazi. Different countries are asking Google, the owner of YouTube, which is hosting this provocative and insulting video clip, ‘Innocence of Muslims’, to withdraw the film clip. At places the video clip has been withdrawn and blocked. US sticks to its ‘Freedom of Expression’ stance and the many protesters are still on the streets.


The film clip, of around 14 minutes duration is part of the full length feature film made by Nakoula Basseley, a US based Christian. The film is very insulting to Islam. In this film large number of modern day mob of bearded Muslims is shown to be attacking Christians. It also takes the audience back in time to show a distorted life of Prophet Mohammad with
negative and aggressive traits of personality. It is crude film, made in extremely poor taste and has generated strong reaction amongst large section of Muslims. It must be pointed out that this is not the only type of reaction to this film. There are sections of clerics who have asked the Muslims to keep restrain. Quoting the moral precepts from Islam, Quran,
they said that Islam is a religion of peace and no violent protests should be held. The best response to this despicable film has been from a section of Muslims distributing the book on life of Prophet Mohammad, the prophet of peace.


During last several years, it has become a sort of standard pattern by many in the West and some here in India to demonize Islam. We remember the Danish cartoon of Prophet, where he is shown as a terrorist, with a bomb tucked in his turban. A Florida Pastor went on to burn this holy book, Koran, saying that Koran teaches violence. Some US soldiers in Afghanistan also burnt copies of Koran, on the ground that the terrorist elements had written messages on those copies.


The demonization of Islam and Muslims has a pattern and agenda. The cartons and films are the outcome of the deeper political processes, which aim to control the oil wells in West Asia. The imperialist greed of United States marshaled the flag of “Islam the New threat” since Ayatollah Khomeini came to power in Iran, overthrowing the US stooge Raza Shah Pahlavi. Later the slogan was worsened with US setting up Madrassas in Pakistan to train Al Qaeda-Taliban to initiate the Muslim youth to fight against the occupying Russian armies in Afghanistan. The word, Jihad and kafir were distorted to indoctrinate the Muslim youth in these Madrassas. With later trajectories and the event of 9/11, World Trade Center attack, the US media with all its guile, popularized the phrase ‘Islamic Terrorism’. The phrase was picked up by the media all over the World and later became part of the social common sense. This is a major abuse of religion for political goals by the imperialist power. One can understand this demonization of Islam as a part of US policy, a cover to hide its agenda to control the oil. To understand it in the way Noam Chomsky ‘coined the phrase’ Manufacturing Consent’, the coining of the word Islamic terrorism is part of the US mechanism of manufacturing consent of the world to give assent to the US attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq.


This US policy gas given rise to twin processes. On one hand the phenomenon like a Florida Pastor Terry Jones burning Koran or the Danish cartoonist drawing Prophet Mohammad as terrorist or the present film has been the outcome of the intense propaganda against Islam. This US propaganda has been backed up by the US sponsored ideology of ‘Clash of Civilizations’, according to which the current era of World History is the era of assault of backward Islamic civilization on the advanced Western civilization. This distorted perception, this ideology was used as a cover for US agenda in West Asia. The other process which got unleashed was that the psyche of global Muslim community started being affected. The perception came up that Muslims (Afghanistan and Iraq) are being attacked, they are under threat. In India the added aspect was the rise of RSS type politics, bringing up Ram Temple issue and starting hatred for Muslims. A large section of Muslims started feeling intimidated and besieged. It became easy for mobilizing them around identity issues. Any community which feels besieged, section of it becomes vulnerable to easy provocation and identity based mobilization.


It is a vicious circle, the Islamophobia on one side and besieged community on the other. In this scenario the Muslim clerics who are asking for peace are the beacon lights of hope for the community. The Muslims who are distributing the books on life of prophet need to be complimented. This is what the sane response from the community has to be. What about US, imperialist designs and its mighty propaganda machinery doing all the mischief in the world? Can there be a process of controlling that? Under Kofi Annan, when he was Secretary General of United Nations, a high level committee produced a report, ‘Alliance of Civilizations’. This report got lost under the barrage of Islamphobia. It is time the world as such takes note of the deeper humane values which have developed by humanity over a period of time, the values which have led to the reports of type of ‘Alliance of civilizations’, the UN conventions which have conceptualized the Human rights for all.


The trigger which has incited the demonization process of religion and films like this one are provoking these insane reactions from a section of Muslims. Can United Nations be revived as a global platform for monitoring the norms for Nations, media and other aspects of our global life evolved to ensure that democratization and human dignity is promoted. Can the World come forward to check the aggressions of ‘The Super Power’? That’s when such films will cease to act as factors promoting violent reactions. And even such crude attempts at insulting others’ religion will come down. May be with such norms and restraints on US policies we can hope that such incidents will come down. Even if there are elements making some films like this there will be others making a film giving their own versions of Prophet’s Mission of peace in the World.


And finally we also need to preserve the concept of freedom of expression moderated with its limits. We also need to cultivate methods of protest where hysterical emotions are kept at bay and rational approach is brought to the fore.

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Re: Who REALLY Produced The Anti Islam Film,"Desert Warrior"

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:18 pm

Pakistan minister offers bounty for anti-Islam film-maker

"I announce today that this blasphemer who has abused the holy prophet, if somebody will kill him, I will give that person a prize of $100,000," Railways Minister Ghulam Ahmed Bilour said, also inviting members of the Taliban and al-Qaida to take part in the "noble deed".

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/brea ... 6479566938

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Re: Who REALLY Produced The Anti Islam Film,"Desert Warrior"

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Unread post by salim » Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:31 pm

If the world needs to live in peace, as a human we should respect other religions. Even though we may not agree with them, we should not try to defame them. With Freedom of speech comes responsibility. US should punish this person. Think if he would have said something against Jews, he would have been behind the bars.

This should hold good for us Muslims as well. We can't go out making fun of other religions and saying bad about others. If we do that one day someone will make fun of us as well. Peace is a two way traffic. I have seen many Muslims, lie about Hindus, christens, Jains, or even different sects within Islam. Now when someone is making fun of them, they are getting angry. Why do they think that they are the most evil people on the face of earth and they can bull others. There are some people as evil or even more evil then them.

By no mean I am defending the person who made fun of the religion. He should be punished, but so do many Muslims who say bad about other religions. What I am saying here is, why do we have dual standards.

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Re: Who REALLY Produced The Anti Islam Film,"Desert Warrior"

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:22 pm

More Evidence Neocon Network Behind “Innocence of Muslims” Video

In an article breaking down the linkages behind the “Innocence of Muslims” video, Justin Raimondo points to a chart on The Flower Throwers website

Drilling down the chart, we see the same old cast of neocon characters who have worked tirelessly to keep the anti-Muslim agenda front and center and thus feed the war on terror against Israel’s enemies. Principle among these are David Horowitz, Daniel Pipes and Aubrey Chernick.

Chernick is the lesser known of the three. He runs a Los Angeles-area software company named the National Center for Crisis and Continuity Coordination and is a former trustee of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), a think tank for Democrat neocons (disgraced sexting Democrat Anthony Weiner once described this faction as “the ZOA [Zionist Organization of America] wing of the Democratic Party”). WINEP is a project of AIPAC, the Israeli pressure group. Chernick’s fortune is dedicated to funding the Anti-Defamation League and CAMERA (Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America), a group that counters negative reporting on Israel.

Daniel Pipes is the well-known Islamophobe who founded the Middle East Forum (MEF), an organization that attacks academics for criticizing Israel. MEF specializes in drawing attention to the so-called “Islamic network” in the United States. “Quietly, lawfully, peacefully, Islamists do their work throughout the West to impose aspects of Islamic law, win special privileges for themselves, shut down criticism of Islam, create Muslim-only zones, and deprive women and non-Muslims of their full civil rights,” Pipes wrote in 2008. He has supported many Likudnik and neocon initiatives and organizations, including the now-defunct Project for the New American Century (PNAC), the Israel-based advocacy outfit Jerusalem Summit, and the U.S. Committee for a Free Lebanon. Pipes was also a scholar at WINEP.

David Horowitz, a former radical Marxist, is a key member of the neocon intelligentsia. As Infowars.com has noted, Horowitz has taken money from CIA operative Richard Mellon Scaife. The David Horowitz Freedom Center is affiliated with Jihad Watch, the virulent anti-Muslim website run by anti-Islam blogger and author Robert Spencer, who along with Islamophobe Pam Geller (who founded Stop Islamization of America) plays an instrumental role in the “Innocence of Muslims” operation. Horowitz has described Islam as a religion of “hate, violence and racism.” Both Horowitz and Pipes have donated money to Geert Wilders, the Dutch anti-Muslim politician.

The more we learn about the “Innocence of Muslims” video, the more obvious it becomes that it was devised by a group of Islamophobes and hardcore radical Israel supporters to further enflame tensions in the Middle East.

The neocon Clash of Civilizations narrative requires an ultimate conflict between the West and Islam. We are now witnessing neocons in both establishment parties and Likudnik fanatics pushing religious and ethnic hatred and conflict to its zenith as the United States and Israel prepare a coordinated attack on Iran that will undoubtedly result in a world war with cataclysmic proportion.

http://www.infowars.com/more-evidence-n ... ims-video/

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Re: Who REALLY Produced The Anti Islam Film,"Desert Warrior"

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:55 pm

At U.N., Islamic world questions West on free speech

At the United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) in the midst of continuing protests over the anti-Islam film ‘Innocence of Muslims’, Islamic countries used the platform to unanimously ask the West to stop protecting Islamophobia in the name of freedom of expression.

Warning that Islamophobia was becoming a new kind of racism akin to anti-Semitism, Foreign Ministers of member countries of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) adopted a declaration stating that the continuing instances of ‘intolerance, discrimination, profiling, negative stereotyping, stigmatisation, religious hatred and violence against Muslims as well as denigration of their religion, Prophet, Holy Book and symbols’’ were against international human rights norms and the principle of freedom of religions.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... 949091.ece

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Re: Who REALLY Produced The Anti Islam Film,"Desert Warrior"

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Unread post by Aymelek » Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:59 am

Blasphemy in Islam: The Quran does not prescribe punishment for abusing the Prophet
By Maulana Wahiduddin Khan
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 631496.cms