TRUE SCHOLAR WITH TRUE TEACHING OF ISLAM

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AMAFHH
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TRUE SCHOLAR WITH TRUE TEACHING OF ISLAM

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Unread post by AMAFHH » Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:45 am

This link is for everyone Bohra's also should watch it in full keeping aside the Difference's
at least you can get some Extra Knowledge

http://amzaidi.com/view_video.php?viewk ... d43f3afe74

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Unread post by yuzarsif » Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:08 am

Salam to all,
One can listen to the lecture,talk and tafseer by " Bro. Nouman Ali Khan" in youtube for Islam and Quran..I learned a lot about Quran and Islam from this guy..May Allah reward him!.

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Unread post by yuzarsif » Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:28 am

Also watch the video on www.shiatv.net "Philosophy of Azadari - Moulana Sayed Askari Zaidi"

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Unread post by yuzarsif » Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:17 am

Hamari Kiya Zimedari Hai Karbala ke baad
http://www.shiatv.net/view_video.php?vi ... d838842e13

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Unread post by yuzarsif » Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:42 am

Surah Al Hadid video series by Ustad Nouman Ali Khan from Bayyinah TV ..
Part 1: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=620406098018685
Part 2: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=620855247973770
Part 3: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=621375744588387
more to come each day ..InshaAllah



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Unread post by yuzarsif » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:07 am

part 8 (last): https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=623920571000571
May Allah make us the people of learning and understanding Quran and May Allah Bless Bro. Nouman Ali Khan . JazakaAllah Khairan.
Wa salam



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Unread post by AMAFHH » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:23 am

Watch the Below Link , I think some what same Strategy Kothar is having for the common Bohri Public , i can be wrong it is only my Personal view

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=22 ... =2&theater

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Unread post by yuzarsif » Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:52 am

Short video lectures by Mohammad Shaikh..
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 963&type=1



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Unread post by badrijanab » Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:36 pm

In Quran, In Nahjul Balagha or in other authentic literature - no where it is mention that on death of any relatives or on martyrdom of any Muslim warrior in Islamic jihad Prophet Mohammed s.a.w.w. or Mola Ali a.s. or Imam Ali Zainul Abideen a.s. have never ever done chest beating or punished self with any tools (like chain or sword or knife).

Hence, Ithna Asheri brutal act of punishing themselves (which they misguidedly call as Matam) is against the Sunnat of Prophet s.a.w.w., Ali a.s. and all Imam a.s.

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Unread post by SBM » Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:47 pm

have never ever done chest beating or punished self
So Badrijanab Are you saying Doing Mattam is not allowed so you finally agree with Anajmi and Muslim First :mrgreen:

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Unread post by Muslim First » Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:12 pm

SBM wrote:
have never ever done chest beating or punished self
So Badrijanab Are you saying Doing Mattam is not allowed so you finally agree with Anajmi and Muslim First :mrgreen:
No brother
Janab BJ belongs to only true maslaq of Islam.
He is POPE of true Muslims.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:00 pm

badrijanab wrote:In Quran, In Nahjul Balagha or in other authentic literature - no where it is mention that on death of any relatives or on martyrdom of any Muslim warrior in Islamic jihad Prophet Mohammed s.a.w.w. or Mola Ali a.s. or Imam Ali Zainul Abideen a.s. have never ever done chest beating or punished self with any tools (like chain or sword or knife).
In Quran, in Nahjul Balagha or in other authentic literature - no where it is mentioned that Prophet (s.a.w.) or Mola Ali (a.s.) or Imam Ali Zainul Abideen a.s. have ever incorporated "Ali un waliyulla" in the Kalema or Azaan !!

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Unread post by Muslim First » Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:51 pm

Here is Imam Badrijanab's Fatwa
badrijanab wrote:Post 719. Re: Poor Targets of Sood Khoor Mufaddali Bohras
on Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:55 pm

Bother is worst. Others Muslim leaders are further worst, in true Islamic sense all non-Bohras are not Muslims indeed = Prophet Mohammed s.a.w.w. said all except one sect will go to hell, and Muslim cannot go to hell so all non-Bohras are not Muslims.

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Unread post by anajmi » Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:59 pm

The good thing is that bohras prefer not to call themselves Muslims. That is why badrijaban didn't say that "only bohras are muslims". He said "non-bohras are not muslims". So now we know where badrijanab is going to be.

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Unread post by Qutbi-Hero » Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:24 am

SBM wrote:
have never ever done chest beating or punished self
So Badrijanab Are you saying Doing Mattam is not allowed so you finally agree with Anajmi and Muslim First :mrgreen:
So SBM... are you against Bohra Matham too?

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:02 pm

Qutbi-Hero wrote:So SBM... are you against Bohra Matham too?
I know you are allergic to non-shia/ non-bohras so I would love to hear your views on the following bohra quotes which were posted some time back on this forum by badrijanab :-

Book name: Mosam a Bahar
Author Name: Dai-al-Mutlaq Molana Abd a Ali Saifuddin.
Reference: Letters to Aamil

"'Ladam' (chest beating) and 'Sadam' (head beating) in the name of Imam Hussain (a.s.) is 'fitnat' of Isnashari Shia and you make sure this practice is stopped and discouraged. Only 'Matam' (to cry or make face like crying) is allowed."

Meaning of Matam: to express grief by crying or making face likwise. In hindi it is called 'shok sabha'.

Meaning of Ladam: chest beating

Burhanuddin saheb cannot deliver any lectures without reading from papers. To cover this lacuna he incites his listeners to do chest beating in the name of Imam Hussain (a.s.) and he labeled this as 'Matam'.

Burhanuddin saheb has abused the term 'Matam' to cover his poor oratory lacuna.

By inciting Dawoodi Bohras Mumins to do chest beating in the name of Imam Hussain (a.s.) - Shri Burhanuddin s/o Taher Saifuddin is disobeying and insulting command of Sayyedina Abd a Ali Saifuddin.

The Dawat’s book “Mosame-Bahaar” has reported on the subject of “Principles of the Dawat System” vide Para XI page 340 giving reference of a letter written by Syyedna Abde-ali Saifuddin s/o Syyedna Abdul Tayyeb Zakiuddin Saheb (Surat, 12th Shabaan-ul-Karim 1222 A. H.) to his Amils. Sayedna Saheb had given ten Baab (instructions) to his Amils regarding adhering to the Shariyat-e-Mohammadi, to be humble, polite, just, honest and accountable to Mumineen under them. In Baab 6 of the letter he had stated as under:-

“Apni majlis Rasulullah (A.S.) ni majlis, apno darbar Amirul mumineen (S.A.) no darbar, apna Moaseroon (Jamat na loko) sab na sab As’habe-Safinat ane Arbabe-Vaqar howa joiye. Etle majlis per apno roub shaamil rahe. Har aam majlis ma nahi, fakat fazil ane kamil ashra ni majliso ma hee girya (rowa) ni ejazat chhe. Seena-zani (chaatee kutwoo) haram chhe. Apni seerat auwaliya ni seerat, ane apni aadat Aadate-kiram howi joiye. Koyee lamha shugule-elahi si faarig naa rehwoo joiye. Moharram ni majlis maahi saghla mumineen ni aankho ashko thi tar thai. Koyee maatha ya seena per, firqa- Asna-Asharee ni tarah hath na mare. Firqa-mazkoor na misal majlise-Husain (A.S.) maa seena zani kari beadabee naa kare.”

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Unread post by badrijanab » Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:46 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:
badrijanab wrote:In Quran, In Nahjul Balagha or in other authentic literature - no where it is mention that on death of any relatives or on martyrdom of any Muslim warrior in Islamic jihad Prophet Mohammed s.a.w.w. or Mola Ali a.s. or Imam Ali Zainul Abideen a.s. have never ever done chest beating or punished self with any tools (like chain or sword or knife).
In Quran, in Nahjul Balagha or in other authentic literature - no where it is mentioned that Prophet (s.a.w.) or Mola Ali (a.s.) or Imam Ali Zainul Abideen a.s. have ever incorporated "Ali un waliyulla" in the Kalema or Azaan !!
In Quran, in Nahjul Balagha or in other authentic literature - no where it is mentioned that Prophet (s.a.w.) or Mola Ali (a.s.) or Imam Ali Zainul Abideen a.s. have ever incorporated "Assalatu Khairum Minan Naum" in the Kalema or Azaan !!

Rasoolallah original azan have, "Haiya la kherul amal", non-Bohras murdered Prophet's s.a.w.w. statement and only Bohras preserved originality i.e. Prophet s.a.w.w. original azan, added to it but not murdered and deleted anything that Prophet s.a.w.w. gave. Non-Bohras have sinned to murder the line of azan that Prophet s.a.w.w. gave!!!!! That's why Prophet s.a.w.w. prophesied: only one sect will go to paradise.

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Unread post by anajmi » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:21 am

Rasoolallah original azan have, "Haiya la kherul amal",
Give proof?

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:03 pm

badrijanab wrote:ghulam muhammed wrote:
badrijanab wrote:
In Quran, In Nahjul Balagha or in other authentic literature - no where it is mention that on death of any relatives or on martyrdom of any Muslim warrior in Islamic jihad Prophet Mohammed s.a.w.w. or Mola Ali a.s. or Imam Ali Zainul Abideen a.s. have never ever done chest beating or punished self with any tools (like chain or sword or knife).

In Quran, in Nahjul Balagha or in other authentic literature - no where it is mentioned that Prophet (s.a.w.) or Mola Ali (a.s.) or Imam Ali Zainul Abideen a.s. have ever incorporated "Ali un waliyulla" in the Kalema or Azaan !!

In Quran, in Nahjul Balagha or in other authentic literature - no where it is mentioned that Prophet (s.a.w.) or Mola Ali (a.s.) or Imam Ali Zainul Abideen a.s. have ever incorporated "Assalatu Khairum Minan Naum" in the Kalema or Azaan !!

Rasoolallah original azan have, "Haiya la kherul amal", non-Bohras murdered Prophet's s.a.w.w. statement and only Bohras preserved originality i.e. Prophet s.a.w.w. original azan, added to it but not murdered and deleted anything that Prophet s.a.w.w. gave. Non-Bohras have sinned to murder the line of azan that Prophet s.a.w.w. gave!!!!! That's why Prophet s.a.w.w. prophesied: only one sect will go to paradise.
Instead of giving logical reasons and evidence about the question I asked, you are pointing fingers to some alleged wrongs being done by other sects. Even if we presume that other sects were wrong that does not absolve Bohras from their own wrongs.......... Two wrongs does not make One right !!

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Unread post by Muslim First » Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:22 pm

anajmi wrote:
Rasoolallah original azan have, "Haiya la kherul amal",
Give proof?
Br GM
Janab Badrijanab is still searching for proof.

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Unread post by anajmi » Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:51 pm

badrijanab is now out of luck because porus has turned off his PM!!!

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Unread post by badrijanab » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:52 am

anajmi wrote:badrijanab is now out of luck because porus has turned off his PM!!!
Moorkhanand,

Teri durgati banegi after April 5th. Inshallah. Tab tak tere ko mohlat he, like shaitan have mohlat.

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Unread post by anajmi » Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:09 pm

Yaato badribhai ka Imam April 5th ko dikhaee dene wala hai, yaato porus parde se bahar aane wala hai. Lekin April fool to April 1st ko hota hai April 5th ko nahin badribhai. :wink:

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Unread post by anajmi » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:23 am

kidhar ho bhai badrijanab? April 5 to aayi aur chali bhi gayee. Qayamat tak to intezaar nahin karwaooge na?