Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by shehzaada » Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:23 am

Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS) proven from authentic hadith with validated chain of narrators
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Abdullah Ibn Umar Radhiallohu ‘anhu narrates that we used to compare the people as to who was better during the lifetime of Allah’s Messenger Sallallohu alaihi wasallam. We used to regard Abu Bakr as the best, then Umar, and then Uthman.
(Bukhari)
Abdullah Ibn Abbas Radhiallohu ‘anhu narrates that: The Prophet Sallallohu alaihi wasallam said, “If I were to take a Khalil and friend, I would have taken Abu Bakr, but he is my brother and my companion in Islam.”
(Bukhari)
Jubair bin Mutim Radhiallohu ‘anhu narrates that a woman came to the Prophet Sallallohu alaihi wasallam who ordered her to return to him again. She said, “What if I came and did not find you?” as if she wanted to say, “If I found you had passed away” The Prophet said, “If you should not find me, go to Abu Bakr.”
(Bukhari)

Amr bin Al Aas Radhiallohu ‘anhu narrates that: The Prophet Sallallohu alaihi wasallam deputed me to lead the Army of Dhat-as-Salasil. I came to him and said, “Who is the most beloved person to you?” He said, “Aisha.” I asked, “Among the men?” He said, “Her father.” I said, “Who then?” He said, “Then ‘Umar bin Al-Khattab.” He then named other men.
(Bukhari)
Abdullah bin Umar Radhiallohu ‘anhu narrates: That Allah’s Messenger Sallallohu alaihi wasallam said, “Allah will not look on the Day of Judgment at him who drags his robe behind him out of pride.” Abu Bakr said “One side of my robe slacks down unless I get very cautious about it.” Allah’s Apostle said, “But you do not do that with a pride.”
(Bukhari)
Abu Said Khudhri Radhiallohu ‘anhu Narrates that: The Prophet Sallallohu alaihi wasallam said, “Do not abuse my companions for if any one of you spent gold equal to Mount Uhud in the path of Allah it would not be equal to a Mud or even a half Mud spent by one of them.”
(Bukhari)
Anas bin Malik Radhiallohu ‘anhu narrates that: The Prophet Sallallohu alaihi wasallam once climbed the mountain of Uhud with Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman. The mountain shook with them. The Prophet Sallallohu alaihi wasallam said to the mountain, “Be firm, O Uhud! For on you there are no more than a Prophet, a Siddeeq and two martyrs.
(Bukhari)
Abdullah Ibn’ Abbas Radhiallohu ‘anhu narrates that while I was standing amongst the people who were invoking Allah for Umar bin Al-Khattab who was lying (dead) on his bed, a man behind me rested his elbows on my shoulder and said, “(O ‘Umar!) May Allah bestow His Mercy on you. I always hoped that Allah will keep you with your two companions, for I often heard Allah’s Messenger Sallallohu alaihi wasallam saying, “I, Abu Bakr and Umar were (somewhere). I Abu Bakr and Umar did (something). I Abu Bakr and Umar set out.’ So I hoped that Allah will keep you with both of them.” I turned back to see that the speaker was Ali bin Abi Talib.
(Bukhari)

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by Muslim First » Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:50 am

Brother Shehzaada

Please understand that this is Shia PDB site.
Prophet has praised many companions in his life time and they are example for us to follow.
Your post will not change anybody but will invite usual abuse.

Allah says
(2:6) As for those who have rejected (these things), it is all the same to them whether you warn them or do not warn them: they are not going to believe.

(2:7) Allah has sealed up their hearts and ears and a covering has fallen over their eyes, and they have incurred the severest punishment.

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by shehzaada » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:02 am

No brother , many people among the bohras do change to Quran and Sunnah. I myself know 50s (including family members). Infact in the past 80% of bohras of that era had changed to Sunnah today they are called Sunni Bohras,

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by Muslim First » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:47 am

shehzaada wrote:No brother , many people among the bohras do change to Quran and Sunnah. I myself know 50s (including family members). Infact in the past 80% of bohras of that era had changed to Sunnah today they are called Sunni Bohras,
Allah-ho-Akbar

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by shehzaada » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:47 pm

Alhamdulillah

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by monginis » Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:48 pm

bloody abbas petiwala, same guy who came up with "phdguy" and then run away when asked PHD in which subject lol

this idiot is alawi bohra from mumbai slums, die hard fan of zakir naik, and really obssesed with dawoodi bohras and wants them to convert wahabiya...

I wonder how such liars can talk about Quraan and Sunnah here.

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by AMAFHH » Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:07 am

Below are a few Quotes from the Ahl-e sunni Books about what The Prophet of islam(S.a.w.w) have said for Ali Ibn-e-abitalib (A.s)
But some of the Companions Disobeyed the saying's of Prophet Mohammed (S.A.W.w) after his Death

1. "You are to me as Aaron was to Moses, but there will be no prophet after me (Sahih, Bukhari, vol 2 p 305Sahih, Muslim, vol 2 p 356, Mustadrak, al Hakim, vol 3 p 109)

2. "You are from me, and I am from you" (Sahih, Bukhari, vol 1 p 76, Sahih, Tirmidhi, vol 5 p 300 Sunan, Ibn Majah, vol 1 p 44)

3. "Loving ‘Ali is believing, and hating him is hypocrisy."(Sahih, Muslim, vol 1 p 61; Sunan, al Nasai, vol 6 p 117; Sahih, al Tirmidhi, vol 8 p 306)

4. "I am the city of knowledge, and ‘Ali is its gate." ( Sahih, Tirmidhi, vol 5 p 201; Mustadrak, al Hakim, vol 3 p 126 )

5. "‘Ali is the master of all the believers after me." ( Musnad, Ahmed Hanbal, vol 5 p 25; Mustadrak, Hakim, vol 3 p 134;Sahih, al Tirmidhi, vol 5 p 296 )

6. "Whoever accepted me as his master, then he should also accept ‘Ali as his master. O Allah be friendly with his friends, and be enemy to his enemy."
( Sahih, Muslim, vol 2 p 362; Mustadrak, Hakim, vol 3 p 109; Musnad, Ahmed Hanbal, vol 4 p 281 )

One more Quote in which the Messenger of Allah (SAWW) said " "Fatimah is part of me, he who angers her angers me." (Sahih, Bukhari, vol 2 p 206)

Fatimah(a,.s) said to Abu Bakr and Umar: “I ask you in the name of Allah, the Most High, did you not hear the Messenger of Allah (saw) saying, ‘The satisfaction of Fatimah(a.s) is my satisfaction, and the anger of Fatimah(a.s) is my anger, he who loves my daughter Fatimah(a.s) loves me, and he who satisfies Fatimah(a.s) satisfies me, and he who angers Fatimah(a.s) angers me?’ They said, ‘Yes, we heard it from the Messenger of Allah (saw).’ Then she said, ‘Therefore, I testify before Allah and the angels that you have angered me and did not please me, and if I meet the Prophet I will complain to him about you
(al Imamah Was Siyasah, Ibn Qutaybah, vol 1 p 20; Muhammad Baqir as Sadr, Fadak in History, p 92)

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by chocoman » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:08 am

Muslim first, there you go with your ideology again, you want to promote your religion, you're welcome to do so because we shias believe in peace and harmony but what is really pissing off is that you quote verses from the holy Quran and degrade us without any knowledge. You see my friend a little learning is a dangerous thing. How about I told you. Bibi Fatema(A.S) till the day she died was angry at Abu bakar.
If its wrong go and check your sahih books. Yes, its is from your books!!!, I'm not even saying from the shia sources.
The problem is not you but you're upbringing you wanna talk about Umar, yazid whoever you feel like do it praise them nobody cares here but don't push your limits by quoting verses that shows wrath on unbelievers so that you can pretentiously depict on shias. We don't do this I expect the same from you and btw this is a shia dawoodi website but every one is welcome.
If I had posted any good thing about Aqa Ali(A.S) in a sunni forum thousands of vermin like you would gather and vomit their foolish reasoning like you had done in shia and sunni page.

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by Muslim First » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:16 am

chocoman wrote:Muslim first, there you go with your ideology again, you want to promote your religion, you're welcome to do so because we shias believe in peace and harmony but what is really pissing off is that you quote verses from the holy Quran and degrade us without any knowledge. You see my friend a little learning is a dangerous thing. How about I told you. Bibi Fatema(A.S) till the day she died was angry at Abu bakar.
If its wrong go and check your sahih books. Yes, its is from your books!!!, I'm not even saying from the shia sources.
The problem is not you but you're upbringing you wanna talk about Umar, yazid whoever you feel like do it praise them nobody cares here but don't push your limits by quoting verses that shows wrath on unbelievers so that you can pretentiously depict on shias. We don't do this I expect the same from you and btw this is a shia dawoodi website but every one is welcome.
If I had posted any good thing about Aqa Ali(A.S) in a sunni forum thousands of vermin like you would gather and vomit their foolish reasoning like you had done in shia and sunni page.
Brother get some Rx glasses to correct your reading

I am just advising Brother not to post such Item. This is not place to do Dawa. You just correct fallshood of Shia Propegenda.

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by Muslim First » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:19 am

AMAFHH wrote:Below are a few Quotes from the Ahl-e sunni Books about what The Prophet of islam(S.a.w.w) have said for Ali Ibn-e-abitalib (A.s)
But some of the Companions Disobeyed the saying's of Prophet Mohammed (S.A.W.w) after his Death

1. "You are to me as Aaron was to Moses, but there will be no prophet after me (Sahih, Bukhari, vol 2 p 305Sahih, Muslim, vol 2 p 356, Mustadrak, al Hakim, vol 3 p 109)

2. "You are from me, and I am from you" (Sahih, Bukhari, vol 1 p 76, Sahih, Tirmidhi, vol 5 p 300 Sunan, Ibn Majah, vol 1 p 44)

3. "Loving ‘Ali is believing, and hating him is hypocrisy."(Sahih, Muslim, vol 1 p 61; Sunan, al Nasai, vol 6 p 117; Sahih, al Tirmidhi, vol 8 p 306)

4. "I am the city of knowledge, and ‘Ali is its gate." ( Sahih, Tirmidhi, vol 5 p 201; Mustadrak, al Hakim, vol 3 p 126 )

5. "‘Ali is the master of all the believers after me." ( Musnad, Ahmed Hanbal, vol 5 p 25; Mustadrak, Hakim, vol 3 p 134;Sahih, al Tirmidhi, vol 5 p 296 )

6. "Whoever accepted me as his master, then he should also accept ‘Ali as his master. O Allah be friendly with his friends, and be enemy to his enemy."
( Sahih, Muslim, vol 2 p 362; Mustadrak, Hakim, vol 3 p 109; Musnad, Ahmed Hanbal, vol 4 p 281 )

One more Quote in which the Messenger of Allah (SAWW) said " "Fatimah is part of me, he who angers her angers me." (Sahih, Bukhari, vol 2 p 206)

Fatimah(a,.s) said to Abu Bakr and Umar: “I ask you in the name of Allah, the Most High, did you not hear the Messenger of Allah (saw) saying, ‘The satisfaction of Fatimah(a.s) is my satisfaction, and the anger of Fatimah(a.s) is my anger, he who loves my daughter Fatimah(a.s) loves me, and he who satisfies Fatimah(a.s) satisfies me, and he who angers Fatimah(a.s) angers me?’ They said, ‘Yes, we heard it from the Messenger of Allah (saw).’ Then she said, ‘Therefore, I testify before Allah and the angels that you have angered me and did not please me, and if I meet the Prophet I will complain to him about you
(al Imamah Was Siyasah, Ibn Qutaybah, vol 1 p 20; Muhammad Baqir as Sadr, Fadak in History, p 92)
All this does not mean a formal Nass of appointment.
Please show something like
After me Ali will be your leader
And not a word about Imamat after Prophet in Quran :D

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by chocoman » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:35 am

"Brother get some Rx glasses to correct your reading" thank you for suggestion keeps me wondering this is all you noticed.
Brother, indeed ignorance fuels your reasoning. Does Quran talk about you're khalifs... enlighten me? even after all this you need reasoning.
I'm not talking about shia religion. You say its falsehood,did I quote anything from shia hadiths, this is pure history.

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by AMAFHH » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:09 am

all this does not mean a formal Nass of appointment.
Please show something like
After me Ali will be your leader
And not a word about Imamat after Prophet in Quran :
D

Brother Muslim
you are a well educated man please open up your Mind and try to analyze the quotes
The above quote are from the Prophet of Allah(S.A.W.W) who never spoke anything in his life but after he got permission from Allah(s.w.t)
I do not want to prove anything Here but at least the Fact of the Past should be known in it's correct sense
and what about the Companions of the Prophet Who had Angered Fatimah (A.S) , will they be Punished or not ?

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by Muslim First » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:18 am

and what about the Companions of the Prophet Who had Angered Fatimah (A.S) , will they be Punished or not ?
O my, brother
Shia completely forget that Hz Ali p'ed off Bibi Fatema by expressing desire to merry another women. she ran to Prophet crying. If they will be punished, so will be Hz Ali. Now are you happy? Ahl e bait worshippers never stop.

Brother it has been 1400 hundred years.
None of Imams are alive except Europian guy who pretends to be Noor of Allah.
If Imamat was divinely ordained we will be having true Imam today not hundreds of pretenders.

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by chocoman » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:30 am

Hey cut it out! In my career I've never heard these cock and bull stories. Every time theres some or other fabrication these bakri guys are come out with. I was shocked to hear these dramaqueens coming out with this character abdullah ibn saba. I mean simply obnoxious claims. I wonder if we were following this guy why dont we have any written narrations about him.
Now this story about bibi fatima. Hey MF, you've got serious issues against shias!! Where do you get your stories from? Is it the same wahabi shaikh who accused RasulAllah (S.A.W) selling alcohol.
You know what, I'm going to sponsor you and send you to a school for good education, in the process, you'll also learn to spell words correctly.
Are you even sure why Aisha went out in the battle against Aqa Ali(A.S). Every damn bakri has a different story.
It is a thing to ponder even an agnostic Jew like Leslie Hazzleton respects Ali( A.S) but what the hell is wrong with our own brothers where is the wilayat??!!
Last edited by chocoman on Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:48 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by monginis » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:35 am

I agree with chocoman, MF desperately needs some good schooling.

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by anajmi » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:51 am

AMAFHH
5. "‘Ali is the master of all the believers after me." ( Musnad, Ahmed Hanbal, vol 5 p 25; Mustadrak, Hakim, vol 3 p 134;Sahih, al Tirmidhi, vol 5 p 296 )
I haven't been able to find this in Sahih Al Tirmidhi. Can you please post a link?

Also, page numbers are an unreliable form of references cause different prints might have hadiths on different page numbers and it would become very difficult to find one particular sentence. So, I would appreciate it if you could post the hadith numbers as well. For now, I am going to assume that since I haven't been able to find this in Tirmidhi, it doesn't exist and is a fabrication from an Ali "lover".

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by Muslim First » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:03 pm

chocoman wrote:Hey cut it out! In my career I've never heard these cock and bull stories. Every time theres some or other fabrication these bakri guys are come out with. I was shocked to hear these dramaqueens coming out with this character abdullah ibn saba. I mean simply obnoxious claims. I wonder if we were following this guy why dont we have any written narrations about him.
Now this story about bibi fatima. Hey MF, you've got serious issues against shias!! Where do you get your stories from? Is it the same wahabi shaikh who accused RasulAllah (S.A.W) selling alcohol.
You know what, I'm going to sponsor you and send you to a school for good education, in the process, you'll also learn to spell words correctly.
Are you even sure why Aisha went out in the battle against Aqa Ali(A.S). Every damn bakri has a different story.
It is a thing to ponder even an agnostic Jew like Leslie Hazzleton respects Ali( A.S) but what the hell is wrong with our own brothers where is the wilayat??!!
From http://islamqa.info/en/43458

Can it be understood from the fact that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) got angry on behalf of Faatimah that she was infallible?
One of the Raafidis presented me with a specious argument, which is the view that Faatimah (may Allaah be pleased with her) was infallible, based on the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “Faatimah is a part of me and whoever angers her angers me.” He said that the anger of Faatimah (may Allaah be pleased with her) is part of the anger of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and the anger of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is part of the anger of Allaah, hence Faatimah could not get angry for any idle reason, i.e., she was infallible. How can we answer this specious argument?.


Praise be to Allaah.
The Raafidis are a people who like to argue and stir up specious arguments which they exaggerate and present them as facts to the common folk in order to prove their point. But the one whom Allaah has blessed with understanding of His religion and the ability to ask scholars, will undoubtedly realize the falseness of their arguments and the insignificance of their evidence. That includes the specious argument mentioned by the questioner. This argument may be answered in several ways:

1 – The Raafidis quote this hadeeth as evidence, as is mentioned by the questioner, to reach the conclusion that Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him) made Faatimah angry when he did not give her what she asked for of the inheritance of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). If that is what happened, and Abu Bakr made Faatimah angry, then he also made the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) angry, and thus made Allaah angry too! This is a sign of their ignorance and folly, for the hadeeth was originally narrated concerning ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him). Al-Bukhaari and Muslim narrated that al-Miswar ibn Makhramah said: ‘Ali proposed to the daughter of Abu Jahl. When Faatimah heard of that she came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said to him: Your people are saying that you do not get angry for the sake of your daughters, and ‘Ali is going to marry the daughter of Abu Jahl. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood up and I heard him when he recited the shahaadah, then he said: “I gave a daughter of mine in marriage to Abu’l-‘Aas ibn al-Rabee’, and when he spoke he told me the truth. Faatimah bint Muhammad is a part of me, and I do not like for her to be hurt. By Allaah, the daughter of the Messenger of Allaah and the daughter of the enemy of Allaah will not be joined together as wives of one man.” So ‘Ali abandoned that proposal. According to a version narrated by al-Bukhaari: “Faatimah is part of me and whoever angers her angers me.” [al-Bukhaari no. 3523 and 3556; Muslim, no. 2449].

Read rest of it at
http://islamqa.info/en/43458
Read it and be happy

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by anajmi » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:27 pm

anajmi wrote:AMAFHH
5. "‘Ali is the master of all the believers after me." ( Musnad, Ahmed Hanbal, vol 5 p 25; Mustadrak, Hakim, vol 3 p 134;Sahih, al Tirmidhi, vol 5 p 296 )
I haven't been able to find this in Sahih Al Tirmidhi. Can you please post a link?

Also, page numbers are an unreliable form of references cause different prints might have hadiths on different page numbers and it would become very difficult to find one particular sentence. So, I would appreciate it if you could post the hadith numbers as well. For now, I am going to assume that since I haven't been able to find this in Tirmidhi, it doesn't exist and is a fabrication from an Ali "lover".
So? No one has actually verified the "evidence"? Do any of you actually check any of the references before posting them? Is this how you people normally provide evidence? Evidence that can be easily proven wrong? Have you learned nothing from Ali despite loving him for 14 centuries? Ali is supposed to be the gate to the city of knowledge. With the kind of knowledge you people have demonstrated, he must banging his head against the walls of jannah!!

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by shehzaada » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:49 am

verify here: http://sunnah.com/ and post a permalink for each hadith

@amafhh , dont just copy paste Isna ashari fabrications as I myself found many a times that they just quote a reference and when you check it back it is either non existent or completely different wordings. Infacts such lies were the prime cause for me to change.

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by AMAFHH » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:56 pm

anajmi wrote:
anajmi wrote:AMAFHH
I haven't been able to find this in Sahih Al Tirmidhi. Can you please post a link?

Also, page numbers are an unreliable form of references cause different prints might have hadiths on different page numbers and it would become very difficult to find one particular sentence. So, I would appreciate it if you could post the hadith numbers as well. For now, I am going to assume that since I haven't been able to find this in Tirmidhi, it doesn't exist and is a fabrication from an Ali "lover".
So? No one has actually verified the "evidence"? Do any of you actually check any of the references before posting them? Is this how you people normally provide evidence? Evidence that can be easily proven wrong? Have you learned nothing from Ali despite loving him for 14 centuries? Ali is supposed to be the gate to the city of knowledge. With the kind of knowledge you people have demonstrated, he must banging his head against the walls of jannah!!
Sorry to My brothers for the delay in replying
Yes there are difference's in the page refrence's but the Hadith is Correct please refer the below link

1. http://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/49 ( Hadith no 3719 )

2. http://futureislam.files.wordpress.com/ ... 1-3956.pdf ( refer page 386 Mainly on the last Few lines of the page )
( page 387 (Hadith # 3713) , page 390, )

3. A statement from the Ansar " We used To Recognize the Hypocrites from their Hatred Of Ali ibn -e- Abitalib (A.s) ( Jami Tirmidhi chapter 20 )

Read it and be happy :) :) Naara-eeeeeeeeeeeeee- HAIDERI YA ALI (A.S)

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by anajmi » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:48 pm

1. http://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/49 ( Hadith no 3719 )
Yes there are difference's in the page refrence's but the Hadith is Correct please refer the below link
Thank you for acknowledging the differences. There is no hadith which says "Ali is the master of all the believers after me."

What if a hypocrite claims to be in love with Ali? How will you recognize him then? By the lies and misinterpretations that he posts?

Here is hadith number 3714 - Ali narrated that the messenger (saw) of Allah said "May Allah have mercy upon Abu Bakr, he married me to his daughter, and he carried me to the land of hijrah, and he freed Bilal with his wealth. May Allah have mercy upon Umar, he says the truth even if it is sour. The truth caused him to be left without a friend. May Allah have mercy upon Uthman, the angels are shy of him. May Allah have mercy upon Ali. O Allah, place the truth with him wherever he turns."

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by AMAFHH » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:09 am

Here is hadith number 3714 - Ali narrated that the messenger (saw) of Allah said "May Allah have mercy upon Abu Bakr, he married me to his daughter, and he carried me to the land of hijrah, and he freed Bilal with his wealth. May Allah have mercy upon Umar, he says the truth even if it is sour. The truth caused him to be left without a friend. May Allah have mercy upon Uthman, the angels are shy of him. May Allah have mercy upon Ali. O Allah, place the truth with him wherever he turns.
i donot want any refrence's from ahle sunnat books the refrences i have posted are for your review

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by monginis » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:47 am

as per request AMAFHH has presented references, and it is obvious anajmi will deny it (as usual).

but anyways thank you AMAFHH for bringing up the references.

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by anajmi » Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:12 am

i donot want any refrence's from ahle sunnat books the refrences i have posted are for your review
And the review proved that you either lie, or misinterpret on purpose. But that is not surprising, cause you yourself have been lied to all your life.

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by Muslim First » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:09 am

Here is hadith number 3714 - Ali narrated that the messenger (saw) of Allah said "May Allah have mercy upon Abu Bakr, he married me to his daughter, and he carried me to the land of hijrah, and he freed Bilal with his wealth. May Allah have mercy upon Umar, he says the truth even if it is sour. The truth caused him to be left without a friend. May Allah have mercy upon Uthman, the angels are shy of him. May Allah have mercy upon Ali. O Allah, place the truth with him wherever he turns.
So here Allah's Rasul praises All 4.
Now if Umar was truthful to Prophet. Would he have denied Ali as Imam after Gadhir ?

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by shehzaada » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:06 pm

I am much used to Isna ashari deceptions and I feel sorry for bohra brethren when they just copy paste from them , I hope one day they actually verify things and understand before posting.
bro Amaf,
what these isna asharis do is will quote authentic hadith and add one or two fabrications in the middle like how Jews used to present (truth+falsehood) as truth , eg: you had copy pasted that lie " Ali is the master of all the believers after me." this is a blatant fabrication oft repeated in isna ashari polemics to deceive the amateur.

I assume you are a Bohra and dont think that by just yelling the name of Ali day in and out means that they are actually following Ahlebayt. Rather Join the people who follow the Quran and Sunnah with verifiable evidences and are on certainty of faith based on verifiable evidences.

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by AMAFHH » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:12 am

shehzaada wrote:I am much used to Isna ashari deceptions and I feel sorry for bohra brethren when they just copy paste from them , I hope one day they actually verify things and understand before posting.
bro Amaf,
what these isna asharis do is will quote authentic hadith and add one or two fabrications in the middle like how Jews used to present (truth+falsehood) as truth , eg: you had copy pasted that lie " Ali is the master of all the believers after me." this is a blatant fabrication oft repeated in isna ashari polemics to deceive the amateur.

I assume you are a Bohra and dont think that by just yelling the name of Ali day in and out means that they are actually following Ahlebayt. Rather Join the people who follow the Quran and Sunnah with verifiable evidences and are on certainty of faith based on verifiable evidences.

Brother
Yes i have copy pasted from a relaible source but that is after reviewing all the facts
and Jazakallah Khair for your advise but Alhumdolillah i am following the Quran and the sunnah of rasullallah (s.a.w.w)
سمعت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يقول مثل أهل بيتي مثل سفينة نوح من ركبها نجا ومن تخلف عنها غرق

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by shehzaada » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:16 am

bro amafhh,
If you say so can post a permalink to the hadith :" Ali is the master of all the believers after me."
The above is a fabrication.

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by AMAFHH » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:51 am

shehzaada wrote:bro amafhh,
If you say so can post a permalink to the hadith :" Ali is the master of all the believers after me."
The above is a fabrication.
Shezaada Saheb
let me know what is the Status of Imam Ali (A.s) in your belief and according to the Fiqh you follow ?

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Re: Virtues of Abu Bakr as Siddiq (AS)

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Unread post by shehzaada » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:37 am

He holds a lofty position on par with the 10 companions who were promised Jannah. Every companion of the prophet pbuh had many unique specialties. If you ask me to rank him than I would rank Ali a,s as number 4 , a ranking which prophet pbuh himself gave .

And ‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas (may Allaah be pleased with him) narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) appointed him as the commander of the army of Dhaat al-Salaasil. He said: So I came to him and said, “Which of the people is dearest to you?” He said, “ ‘Aa’ishah.” I said, “Who among men?” He said, “Her father.” I said, “Then who?” He said, “Then ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab,” and he mentioned some other men.

Now let us turn to ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib (may Allaah be pleased with him) himself, and he see what he said. It was narrated that Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiyyah (who was the son of ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib) said: “I said to my father, ‘Which of the people was the best after the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)?’ He said, ‘Abu Bakr.’ I said, ‘Then who?’ He said, ‘Then ‘Umar.’ I was afraid that he would say ‘Uthmaan. I said, ‘Then is it you?’ He said, ‘I am only one of the Muslims.’”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3671.

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3662; Muslim, 2384.



Who is better and more knowledgeable – Abu Bakr and ‘Umar, or ‘Ali?
Praise be to Allaah.
Undoubtedly the noble Sahaabi ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib was one of the wisest and most determined of people. He is well known for his courage and bravery. He was the first youth to enter Islam, then he stayed close to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) before the Hijrah. When the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) left Makkah, accompanied by Abu Bakr, he stayed behind and slept in the Prophet’s bed (thus fooling the mushrikeen who wanted to kill the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)). Among his virtues are those mentioned in the hadeeth narrated by Sahl ibn Sa’d (may Allaah be pleased with him), who said that he heard the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say, on the day of Khaybar, “I will give the flag to a man at whose hands Allaah will grant victory.” They got up, wishing to see to whom the flag would be given, each of them hoping that he would be given the flag. Then he said, “Where is ‘Ali?” He was told that he was suffering from eye-trouble. He ordered that ‘Ali should be called to him, then he spat in his eyes and he was healed immediately, as if he has never had any problem in his eyes.

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 2942; Muslim, 2406.

Just as ‘Ali had many virtues and good characteristics, other Sahaabah also had other virtues and good characteristics. Among the virtues of Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him) is that which was narrated from Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri, who said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) delivered a khutbah and said: “Allaah has given a slave the choice between this world and what is with Him, and he chose what is with Him.” Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq (may Allaah be pleased with him) began to weep, and I said to myself, “What is making this old man cry if Allaah has given a slave the choice between this world and what is with Him, and he chose what is with Him?” The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was that slave, and Abu Bakr was the most knowledgeable of us. He said, “O Abu Bakr, do not weep. Abu Bakr has favoured me greatly with his companionship and his wealth. If I were to have taken a close friend among my ummah, I would have chosen Abu Bakr, but the brotherhood of Islam is sufficient. Do not leave any door to the mosque without closing it off, apart from the door of Abu Bakr.”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 466; Muslim, 2382

Another of his virtues is that he accompanied the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) during the Hijrah (migration to Madeenah), as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“If you help him (Muhammad) not (it does not matter), for Allaah did indeed help him when the disbelievers drove him out, the second of the two; when they (Muhammad and Abu Bakr) were in the cave, he said to his companion (Abu Bakr): ‘Be not sad (or afraid), surely, Allaah is with us.’ Then Allaah sent down His Sakeenah (calmness, tranquillity, peace) upon him, and strengthened him with forces (angels) which you saw not, and made the word of those who disbelieved the lowermost, while the Word of Allaah that became the uppermost; and Allaah is All-Mighty, All-Wise”
[al-Tawbah 9:40]

And ‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas (may Allaah be pleased with him) narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) appointed him as the commander of the army of Dhaat al-Salaasil. He said: So I came to him and said, “Which of the people is dearest to you?” He said, “ ‘Aa’ishah.” I said, “Who among men?” He said, “Her father.” I said, “Then who?” He said, “Then ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab,” and he mentioned some other men.

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3662; Muslim, 2384.

Another of his virtues is the fact that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) appointed him to lead the prayers in his stead at the end of his life, when he fell sick with his final illness, and he rebuked those who objected to this and said, “Tell Abu Bakr to lead the people in prayer.”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 683; Muslim 418.

And it was narrated from Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) climbed Uhud with Abu Bakr, ‘Umar and ‘Uthmaan, and it trembled beneath them. He said, ‘Stand firm, O Uhud, for there is no one on you but a Prophet, a Siddeeq and two martyrs.”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3675.

With regard to ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allaah be pleased with him), he also had many virtues and good characteristics which were proven in many reports. For example it was narrated that Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whilst I was sleeping, I saw the people were shown to me, and they were wearing shirts. Some shirts came down to the chest, and some were shorter than that. ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab was shown to me and he was wearing a shirt that dragged along the ground.” They said, “How did you interpret that, O Messenger of Allaah?” He said, “Religious commitment.”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 23; Muslim, 2390.

It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Whilst I was sleeping, a cup of milk was brought to me and I drank until I saw its wetness coming out of my nails. Then I gave the rest to ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab.” They said, “How did you interpret that, O Messenger of Allaah?” He said, “(It is) knowledge.”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 82; Muslim, 2391.

And it was narrated from ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to say, “Among the nations who came before you there were muhaddathoon (men who were inspired) and if there are any such men among my ummah, then ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab is one of them.”

Narrated by Muslim, 2398

And there is other evidence which points to the virtues of the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them). But the fact that some of them were superior to others is something that makes sense and is proven in sharee’ah. It is not the matter of whims and desires, rather it should be referred to sharee’ah, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And your Lord creates whatsoever He wills and chooses, no choice have they (in any matter). Glorified is Allaah, and exalted above all that they associate (as partners with Him)”

[al-Qasas 28:68]

So we should refer to the shar’i evidence in order to find out the status of the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them). It was narrated that Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “We used to compare the people as to who was better at the time of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). We used to regard Abu Bakr as the best, then ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab, then ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Affaan (may Allaah be pleased with them).” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3655. According to another report he said: “At the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) we did not regard anyone as equal with Abu Bakr, then ‘Umar, then ‘Uthmaan, then we left the companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and we did not differentiate between them.” Al-Bukhaari, 2679.

This is testimony of all the Sahaabah, narrated by ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar, that Abu Bakr was superior to all the Sahaabah, followed by ‘Umar, then ‘Uthmaan.

Now let us turn to ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib (may Allaah be pleased with him) himself, and he see what he said. It was narrated that Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiyyah (who was the son of ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib) said: “I said to my father, ‘Which of the people was the best after the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)?’ He said, ‘Abu Bakr.’ I said, ‘Then who?’ He said, ‘Then ‘Umar.’ I was afraid that he would say ‘Uthmaan. I said, ‘Then is it you?’ He said, ‘I am only one of the Muslims.’”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3671.

It was narrated that ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “No one is brought to me who regards me as superior to Abu Bakr and ‘Umar but I will punish him with a beating like a fabricator.” Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said: It was narrated that he used to speak from the minbar of Kufa and say that the best of this ummah after our Prophet was Abu Bakr, then ‘Umar. This was narrated from him via more than eighty isnaads, and it was narrated by al-Bukhaari and others. Hence the earlier Shi’ah all used to agree that Abu Bakr and ‘Umar were superior, as has been mentioned by more than one. Manhaaj al-Sunnah, 1/308

It was narrated from Abu Juhayfah that ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) ascended the minbar and praised and glorified Allaah and sent blessings upon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), then he said: “The best of this ummah after its Prophet is Abu Bakr. The second is ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him), and after that, whoever Allaah wants to be good will be good.”

Narrated by Imam Ahmad in his Musnad, 839. And Shaykh Shu’ayb al-Arna’oot said: its isnaad is qawiy.

These ahaadeeth of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and these reports from the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) all testify to the belief of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah, amongst whom there is no dispute concerning it, that the best of this ummah after its Prophet is Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq (may Allaah be pleased with him), then ‘Umar. May Allaah be pleased with all of the Sahaabah.

With regard to the idea that Abu Bakr and ‘Umar always used to ask ‘Ali questions and that they did not have knowledge, this is not proven in any report whatsoever. Rather it is proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) ordered that Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him) should lead the people in prayer when he was sick with his final illness. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would not have delegated this task except to one who had knowledge of the rulings on the prayer. And it was proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) appointed Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him) to lead the Hajj before the Farewell Pilgrimage, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would not have appointed a man to such a position unless he was the most knowledgeable of them concerning it (the Hajj). Indeed it is narrated that ‘Ali learned some ahaadeeth from Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with them both) concerning some issues. It was narrated that Asma’ bint al-Hakam al-Fazaari said: “I heard ‘Ali say: I was a man who, if I heard a hadeeth from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), Allaah would benefit me thereby as much as He willed to benefit me. If a man from among his companions told me a hadeeth I would ask him to swear to it; if he swore to it then I would believe him.” He told me that Abu Bakr said, and Abu Bakr spoke the truth, “I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say, ‘There is no man who commits a sin then he gets up and purifies himself and prays, and seeks the forgiveness of Allaah, but Allaah will forgive him.’ Then he recited this verse (interpretation of the meaning):

“And those who, when they have committed Faahishah (illegal sexual intercourse) or wronged themselves with evil, remember Allaah and ask forgiveness for their sins; — and none can forgive sins but Allaah — and do not persist in what (wrong) they have done, while they know”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:135]

Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 406; classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

Al-Tirmidhi (3682) narrated from ‘Ibn ‘Umar that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah has placed truth on the tongue of ‘Umar and in his heart.” Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi, 2908.

And we have quoted above the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) concerning ‘Umar: “Among the nations who came before you there were muhaddathoon (men who were inspired) and if there are any such men among my ummah, then ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab is one of them.”

The point is that the belief of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah, on which they are unanimously agreed, is that the best of this ummah after its Prophet is Abu Bakr, then ‘Umar – may Allaah be pleased with them both.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “No one among the respectable Muslim scholars has said that ‘Ali was more knowledgeable or had more understanding of Islam than Abu Bakr and ‘Umar, or even than Abu Bakr alone. Those who claim that there is consensus on that are among the most ignorant of people and the greatest liars. Rather, more than one of the scholars have stated that there is scholarly consensus that Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq was more knowledgeable than ‘Ali, such as Imam Mansoor ibn ‘Abd al-Jabbaar al-Sam’aani al-Marwadhi, one of the leading scholars of the Sunnah among the companions of al-Shaafa’i, who mentioned in his book Taqweem al-Adillah ‘ala’l-Imam that there was consensus among the scholars of the Sunnah that Abu Bakr was more knowledgeable than ‘Ali. I do not know of anyone among the famous imams who disputes this point. How could it be otherwise when Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq used to issue rulings and commands and prohibitions, and pass judgements, and deliver khutbahs in the presence of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), as he used to do when he and Abu Bakr would go out to call the people to Islam, and when they migrated together, and on the day of Hunayn, and on other occasions, when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) remained silent and approved of what Abu Bakr said; no one else enjoyed such status. When the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) consulted with the wise and knowledgeable men among his companions, he would consult Abu Bakr and ‘Umar first, because they were the first to speak about matters of Islam in the presence of the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) before the rest of his companions; for example when he consulted them about the prisoners of Badr, the first ones who spoke about that were Abu Bakr and ‘Umar, and this also happened on other occasions… In Saheeh Muslim it is narrated that the companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) were with him on a journey and he said: “If the people obey Abu Bakr and ‘Umar, they will be guided aright.” And it was narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas that he used to give his fatwas based on the Book of Allaah, and if he could not find anything then he would look at the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), then if he could not find anything he would refer to the fatwas of Abu Bakr and ‘Umar, then if he did not find anything he would refer to the fatwas of ‘Uthmaan and ‘Ali – and Ibn ‘Abbaas was the habr al-ummah (scholar of the ummah) and the most knowledgeable of the Sahaabah of his time, and he would consult the words of Abu Bakr and ‘Umar and give them precedence over the words of anyone else among the Sahaabah. And it was proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) prayed for Ibn ‘Abbaas and said, “O Allaah, cause him to understand the religion of Islam and teach him the correct interpretation (of the Qur’aan).”

Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 4/398

See:

Al-Fasl fi’l-Milal wa’l-Nihal, 4/212
Bal dalalta, p. 252

Al-Shi’ah al-Imaamiyyah al-Ithna ‘ashariyyah, p. 120

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