finally bohra shows their true intentions-betrays shia

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seeker110
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Re: finally bohra shows their true intentions-betrays shia

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Unread post by seeker110 » Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:31 pm

This is the result of leadership of a Dai (fake) whose only interest is money ,power and government. All his objectives are for worldly gains, he has no interest in spiritualism. Shaitan in gods clothing. 51st on down.

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Re: finally bohra shows their true intentions-betrays shia

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Unread post by Ummul Bani » Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:39 pm

God on earth is also the Ghulam of Imam -uz- Zaman?

Bohra spring
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Re: finally bohra shows their true intentions-betrays shia

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:20 pm

If there was a dislike button this would be useful.

It is good such disclosures are happening so those who have a chance of escaping the dungeon of misinformation and brainwash can return to Islam

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Re: finally bohra shows their true intentions-betrays shia

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Unread post by Sufi monk » Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:49 pm

UnhappyBohra wrote:Not sure what the big bruhaha is about. My kids are routinely taught in madrassah that the Dai is God on Earth. this is not a new thing for Bohra's. I have also heard several times in bayan key "moula to goya ke zamin par Khuda che."
you must immediately withdraw your kids from such madressa

zinger
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Re: finally bohra shows their true intentions-betrays shia

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Unread post by zinger » Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:02 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:
fustrate_Bohra wrote:Have our doctrine of dai is promoted above IMAM?
Off course..... Don't you know that the Misaq was altered since 51st Dai's time wherein it is now attributed to the Dai and not Imam as was the case since inception of Bohraism !

Not true GM bhai. i have given misaq just 3 months ago. it is very clearly to first imam us zaman and then dai us zaman

you must have given misaq a long time ago, when it was to dai but it has changed once again

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Re: finally bohra shows their true intentions-betrays shia

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Unread post by true_bohra » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:58 am

zinger wrote:
ghulam muhammed wrote: Off course..... Don't you know that the Misaq was altered since 51st Dai's time wherein it is now attributed to the Dai and not Imam as was the case since inception of Bohraism !

Not true GM bhai. i have given misaq just 3 months ago. it is very clearly to first imam us zaman and then dai us zaman

you must have given misaq a long time ago, when it was to dai but it has changed once again
@GM

The misaaq is purely attributed to the Holy Imam AS and the text specifically mentions the position of the Dai in the absence of the Holy Imam AS.

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Re: finally bohra shows their true intentions-betrays shia

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Unread post by fustrate_Bohra » Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:16 am

My question was How can the DAI proclaim themselves as "Zamin na Khuda" when they know that Imam is present on earth?

zinger
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Unread post by zinger » Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:48 am

sent this reply of mine as a PM by mistake to Frustrate Bohra.
Reproducing it here again

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my answer, along with the answer from True Bohra is the same.
Mufaddal Maula has not claimed this.

My answer to your next question, which would undoubtedly be "why is the person in audio claiming it as such", would be the same as the possible answer that Suleman has given, that this audio sounds like either an over-zealous aamil or perhaps someone deliberately out to create mischief.
I have already outlined the reasons why i feel so in an earlier post

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Re: finally bohra shows their true intentions-betrays shia

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Unread post by james » Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:07 am

zinger wrote:
ghulam muhammed wrote: Off course..... Don't you know that the Misaq was altered since 51st Dai's time wherein it is now attributed to the Dai and not Imam as was the case since inception of Bohraism !

Not true GM bhai. i have given misaq just 3 months ago. it is very clearly to first imam us zaman and then dai us zaman

you must have given misaq a long time ago, when it was to dai but it has changed once again
It is far fetched to think "ghulam muhammed" has given meethaq.This opinion is based on the fact that he is unaware of "safaqat" tradition.

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Unread post by james » Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:10 am

Can anyone confirm if it is Abdeali's voice ? :mrgreen:

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Unread post by james » Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:30 am

http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtop ... &start=360

Recap of senile fool getting put in his place by WYP for zinger's attention.

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Unread post by zinger » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:32 am

james wrote:http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtop ... &start=360

Recap of senile fool getting put in his place by WYP for zinger's attention.
James bhai, i have had often had this argument with people. im boggled how, by looking at one pic, they can analyse the past, present and future of what happened, was going on and what is to happen

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Unread post by Qureshi » Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:41 am

Thousands of Indian Muslims signing up for Iraq

NEW DELHI: Thousands of Muslims in India have signed up to defend Iraq’s shrines and, if need be, fight militants in the country where the civilian death toll from the Sunni insurgents’ advance is estimated at least 1,300.
Denouncing the militants of the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) as terrorists, these Indian Muslims have filled out forms, complete with passport-size photographs and photocopied identification documents, to travel to Iraq.
Leaders of Anjuman E. Haideri, the religious organization spearheading the effort, said they might march to the Iraqi embassy in New Delhi on Friday to deliver the forms.
A Shia cleric is leading the effort and the volunteers want to protect shrines venerated by the sect in Iraq, but the group’s leaders say their cause is not sectarian.
Already at the group’s headquarters located off Karbala Road in a leafy New Delhi neighborhood, picket signs of “It’s not Shias vs Sunnis (it’s) Iraqis vs Terrorists” have been prepared.
“They aren’t Muslims. Jihad means to defend. Jihad doesn’t mean to kill,” said Syed Bilal Hussain Abidi, a senior member of the group as he showed graphic footage on his cellphone of beheadings and bombs exploding in Iraq.
“We could travel to Iraq to form a human chain to save people from being tortured. We could fetch water and donate blood and do anything to save our shrines,” he said, surrounded by brightly colored files stacked with volunteers’ forms.
Even though Muslims are a minority accounting for only 15 percent of Indians, they still number about 175 million, making them the third-largest Muslim population in the world.



Whether the volunteers will be granted visas and allowed to travel to Iraq is not clear. Officials at the Iraqi embassy were not immediately available to comment.
India’s foreign ministry has said it will not allow Indians to go to Iraq because of the security situation in a country where 40 Indian hostages are being held in an undisclosed location and 46 Indian nurses are stranded in Tikrit hospitals.
But Syed Bahadur Abbas Naqvi, the group’s general secretary, said that since the Indian government does not plan to send forces to Iraq, the supporters have little choice but to head over there themselves.
So far, the volunteers, who range from engineers to students and police officers, have signed a form that says: “I firmly believe that terrorism of all kinds including the one which is being inflicted by known terror groups in Iraq is not only a serious threat to innocent Iraqis (irrespective of their religious beliefs) but is also a threat to the entire humanity.”
The group said it has 100,000 signatories from across India and has held several demonstrations “against terrorism” in Delhi and other cities.
The group wants to defend shrines spread across Iraq in the cities of Karbala, Najaf, Samarra and Kirkuk, but also stem the rise of crude oil prices that have shot up as a result of the crisis and could hit importer India hard.
“If they need help, we’re ready from Hindustan,” said Dilawar Abbas, a group member, using another name for India. If the ISIL is in Iraq right now, “tomorrow they can be in India.”

http://www.arabnews.com/news/592516

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Unread post by Qureshi » Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:43 pm

on the contrary Bohras cancel tickets to karbala
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Re: finally bohra shows their true intentions-betrays shia

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Unread post by AbdulSaleh » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:06 pm

Next time when bohras do matam they should remember all this.

Bohra spring
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Unread post by Bohra spring » Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:33 am

What are everyone going to defend or fight ?

It would rather that we talk sense into the Shia and Sunni in Iraq that they are embarrassing Islam by their barbaric behaviour .

We are feeding the flames of hate we will all loose lives of innocent men women and children Islam will be lose

We need to spend effort in reconciliation and good governance so we don't need such wars to solve problems

Terrorists found a reason that the government have created through bad governance and external vultures are feeding in the issues for Their agenda and politics cause and affect