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Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:47 am
by SBM
Dawedaar
Did it occur to you that after being blasted here on this forum they decided to put Khidmatguzar in action.

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:09 pm
by dawedaar
So do u mean to say that they increased the extortion and money collection recently after reading this forum! I dont think the Kothar or the abdes give a damn about what is said on this forum apart from a little bit of censorhip on abde sites! If the kothar or the abdes start acting based on what is written on this site, then u wont see zombie abdes falling over each other to rain rupees n dollars on Maula n his family!
SBM wrote:Dawedaar
Did it occur to you that after being blasted here on this forum they decided to put Khidmatguzar in action.

Bohras Stuck In Yamen.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:17 am
by khuzema
http://www.freepressjournal.in/bohras-s ... -pilgrims/

A delegation of Bohra community members sought Lok Sabha Speaker and Indore MP Sumitra Mahajan’s help in persuading the Centre for rescue of stranded pilgrims.

Re: Bohras Stuck In Yamen.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:58 am
by Qadir
Hope that the union will help our mumineen bhaiyo and beheno stuck in yemen.

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:58 am
by salim
ghulam muhammed wrote:I believe that even the Sulemani Bohras have a large population in Najran.
JavedhJuma wrote:Yes, they are Sulaimanis and very often they are attacked by Saudi army during the month of Mohorram for observing publicly. Recently, haven't heard about it but at least 3 years ago they were harassed by the govt.
Have heard a lot about ismailis in Saudi, but never knew they were Sulaimanis. This may be the start of Saudi downfall, but you never know. Even if the oil income goes down, they still make huge money with Haj and Umra tourism. Wahabis have so much of money, if they would have invested in good universities and research, they would have become information leaders. Entire Islamic world would have benefited.

Wahhabis have control on media. Their strong influence on Fox News will go down now, this Feb, after they sold good portion of their stocks. Alwaleed, who had the second-largest holding of voting stock in News Corp (Fox News & Wall Street Journal). Murdoch family, has been a staunch ally of the Wahabies, but things may change now. Saudi king is still one of the top 5 inventors in Fox News, but he won't be the decision maker any more, Invesco and Bank Of New York will have equal say in the company.

Re: Bohras Stuck In Yamen.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:06 am
by mnoorani
Qadir wrote:Hope that the union will help our mumineen bhaiyo and beheno stuck in yemen.
Dear Qadir Bhai,
Are you mad?
Why does our community have to go to some lok sabha MP or MLA. Our Dai is our Sultan and a Sultan knows other KIngs. Our Dai has very good relation with our Prime Minister Modi Ji himself. If our Maula wants then he can directly talk to Modi ji and tell him about the situation. Remember the whole community of Muslims in India is against the Modiji. But it was only our Maula who embraced him and welcomed him and befreinded him. But there is hikmat in this as till now our maula has not informed Modi ji of the situation in Yemen regarding Bohras. Otherwise why should the Bohra community go via some local unknown politician when Maula has direct access to the Prime Minister himself, Think! This is hikmat.

Re: Bohras Stuck In Yamen.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:40 am
by jungle999
M.M.B.HE had done lots of things in yemen regarding his son M,M,S, instead of hoping like kangaroo to one country to another country looting abds he should hire plane to rescuse bohras from yemen instead of asking to M.P.and if the mp helps they will first ask how many pati you will give .what short of a dia is he But als i can only thing of mms has no guts to handle the suitions he only knows how to rob abds

Re: Bohras Stuck In Yamen.

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:51 am
by think
The bohri abdes and amtes are living in a fantasy world. \They are lead into believing that this guy Muffy is going to take them into jannat and every knowledgeable person knows this guy has zilch power to do any thing like that.
some say they have seen miracles happen in their lives because they remembered Muffy. to those I have to say. Try remembering and asking Allah and see the miracles of Allah without Muffy.

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:59 pm
by JavedhJuma
Brother Salim,

I remember may be 30 years ago, they had invaded a private home of an Ismaili (Nizari) man where they had gathered to pray on Friday. They were arrested and taken to prison. Sir Eboo got a message that they were imprisoned. With Saudi King's help they were released but they were advised by Sir Eboo to leave immediately and never to return. Since then very few Ismailis ever take up jobs there. Some Syrian Ismailis go there for jobs for a few years and they told me that they prayed with the Saudis in their Mosques. They did not get together in their homes except to socialise and that too was rare.

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:40 pm
by JavedhJuma
As regards Saudi's economy: There is a long hadith. Abu Huraira asked Prophet SAW if Arabs would ever have good days to which Prophet SAW replied "certainly". "And then would they suffer bad days again", he said "yes", but they will again do well, etc. Like I said it is a long hadith but the gist of it is that good days will be followed by bad days depending on our attitude, our religious practice and life.

As brother Salim said they could have built Universities. To which I add, they could have built schools, hospitals, etc. and helped other Muslims around the world and taught them Islam as was revealed to the Prophet SAW (and we would not have had this menace of Isis, Al-Qaeda, Bokoharam, etc) . They export Mullas to preach their corrupted version of Islam but hardly would they ever renovate the Mosques. Prophet SAW had put a strong emphasis on education, both for men and women. He had also emphasized the protection of Jews and Christians and respect for Ahle-al-Kitab during his time. These days, Muslims are calling them Kafiruns and killing them in the name of Islam. This is not Islam, this is paganism.

Now we see bad days ahead for Muslims and Saudis in particular. They want to remove Holy Shrines and raise Mails, etc. What are they thinking. Our Islamic heritage is being replaced by western architect. Look at Dubai and other Middle Eastern countries.

Look at Islam, the religion of Peace, but there is no peace. Only violence in the name of Islam. Is this our beloved Prophet's legacy? There are going to be bad days ahead for the Ummah.

Saudi's oil is dwindling and US is producing its own oil. They don't even pump their own oil, They are that lazy and arrogant. They depend on Americans and other countries. Saudis economy is suffering, and they are now cutting back on their social programs. May Allah SWT help them. We do not want more chaos.

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:07 am
by qutub_mamajiwala
at present they are making hay while the sun is shinning on them
oil is not going to last till qayamat.
one day it will finish, much before qyamat.
u and i will not last to see that situation, but will leave a gud lesson to future generation.
as we now read history of roman empire, future generation will read history of these bigots

Bohra Muslims Back from Yemen

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:29 am
by SBM
India's Bohra Muslims are back safely from Yemen but have many reasons to still be anxious
http://scroll.in/article/719205/India%2 ... be-anxious

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:03 pm
by fayyaaz
fayyaaz wrote: Now we have Houthis, Yemeni Sunnis, al-Qaeda, ISIS, Saudis and Americans all blowing one another to bits.

Bohras should pray for divine intervention. Only when Imam or his deputy, the Mola, leads the roti brigade with a velan charge, will they succeed in ushering peace.
Thousands of followers of the Dai reside in Yemen especially in Sanaa and Aden. They are stuck there in an increasingly violent and desperate situation. No water, electricity or gas (petrol). There is no safe exit for them.

The majority are descendants of Indians who settled there centuries ago but there is also a significant number who settled there within the last 100 years. Having Yemeni nationality, there is absolutely no hope of them being rescued by any Government.

These are devout Bohras always with the name of their Mawla on their tongue. They believe and trust that their Mawla will be there for them. There is no sign of that happening. It looks like they are on their own. I fear we will witness fatalities among Bohras very shortly.

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:40 pm
by ghulam muhammed
fayyaaz wrote:These are devout Bohras always with the name of their Mawla on their tongue. They believe and trust that their Mawla will be there for them.
Their Mola is hop, skipping and jumping city after city, country after country EXCEPT YEMEN, he has now fled to Colombo due to the tense situation created by him in Ahmedabad where he grabbed a public road in connivance with top Gujarat government officials. He also made it a point to meet the Chief Minister of Gujarat, Anandiben Patel during his visit to Ahmedabad but has no time to address the grievances of Yemeni Bohras !!

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:33 pm
by SBM
but has no time to address the grievances of Yemeni Bohras !!
GM Bhai
You are mistaken our Moula SMS is in constant touch with his brother Huzefa who is sitting on the left of SMB who in turn getting guidance from the Imam in Purdaha.
But SMS can not reveal this interaction because there is Hikkmat and there is also Hikkmat for Yamani Bohras to suffer. TAMAY AA TAAWIL NAA SAMJHI SAKO BHAI

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:11 am
by AMAFHH
fayyaaz wrote:
fayyaaz wrote: Now we have Houthis, Yemeni Sunnis, al-Qaeda, ISIS, Saudis and Americans all blowing one another to bits.

Bohras should pray for divine intervention. Only when Imam or his deputy, the Mola, leads the roti brigade with a velan charge, will they succeed in ushering peace.
Thousands of followers of the Dai reside in Yemen especially in Sanaa and Aden. They are stuck there in an increasingly violent and desperate situation. No water, electricity or gas (petrol). There is no safe exit for them.

The majority are descendants of Indians who settled there centuries ago but there is also a significant number who settled there within the last 100 years. Having Yemeni nationality, there is absolutely no hope of them being rescued by any Government.

These are devout Bohras always with the name of their Mawla on their tongue. They believe and trust that their Mawla will be there for them. There is no sign of that happening. It looks like they are on their own. I fear we will witness fatalities among Bohras very shortly.

In Yemen if Bohras really want to be saved instead of following MS they should follow Houthi leader as he is firm in his Stand against the Tyranny
asking Help from M.S is for an Example Asking BJP to save us from R.S.S

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:59 pm
by ghulam muhammed
Muffy will never go to Yemen at present because it is commercially unviable for him. He cannot expect fat najwas, Ziyafats, Hadiyats and Mafsusiyat income from the Yemeni Bohras who themselves are in in dire states. On the contrary he will have to shell out some amount from his own pocket which the Bohra Dais never do as they are "Lena Bank" and not "Dena Bank" ! He would also miss the ac buggy rides, the dagger dance and the procession of Band Baajawalas who follow him wherever he goes. He is also aware that he will not be able to gather huge crowd of abdes from other cities which is mandatory for his pomp and show baazi because the moment he announces his Yemen trip the abdes will vanish like "Ghade ke sar pe se singh" and he will fail miserably in his exercise to show his so called huge following to the outside world.

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:06 pm
by ghulam muhammed
From: Orange County Jamaat <orangecountyjamaat@gmail.com>
Date: April 27, 2015 at 6:09:52 AM PDT
To: "Zohairbhaisaheb Y. Ezzuddin" <zohairezzuddin@gmail.com>
Subject: Dawat Project

Salaams,

We are in the middle of our third year of collection for Faiz-al-Mawaid-al-Burhaniya, Yemen.

As I'm sure you are aware, the halaat in Yemen is terrible. However, Moula's (TUS) foresight is truly incredible. With the establishment and growth of FMB in Yemen over the last few years, many Momineen continue to receive its barakat, despite the tremendous hardships they face in the country.

Here are the words of a Mumin Bhai in Yemen: "Yemen ma filhal war chali rah che. Five days si electricity nathi. Fakat two hours awe che. Petrol nathi. Pan Moula (TUS) na Faiz nu jaman sagla Mumineen na ghare pochi rahyu che. Moula (TUS) no mojezo che."

We are incredibly lucky that Moula (TUS) has given us the opportunity to participate in the khidmat of Faiz-al-Mawaid-al-Burhaniya. For those of you who have yet to participate, I urge you to consider contributing. Your donations have a very direct and substantial impact on the lives of Mumineen. It is Moula's (TUS) ehsaan that we are able to participate in this khidmat.

I will be collecting checks in the next few weeks. If you can contribute, please make checks payable to Dawat-e-Hadiyah America and write "Dawat Project" in the memo line. Please also write your eJamaat number on the top of the check.

May Allah Ta'ala grant Aali Qadr Moulana Mufaddal Saifuddin (TUS) a long life until qayamat and give us all the strength to do his khidmat. Ameen.

Abde Syedna (TUS)

Yusuf Shk. Zulfiqar Zakir
619-212-1283

yusufzakir@gmail.com


Dear friends,

Please read the above email and ask why no Shehzada has gone to Yemen for saving Yemeni Bohras. Aghakhan team is doing extraordinary work moving followers from Syria and other war-torn places to safe places in Canada and Europe, as Jews have done. It is diabolic to collect funds from unsuspecting Bohras in name of war-torn Yemeni Bohras and enjoy that money. Syedna should transport generators and other facilities to those embattled Bohras.

Kothar has engineered Syedna Hatim Darees out of blue and have made millions. During times of earlier Dais, there was no Darees. Bohras do not celebrate Imam Mehdi, Imam Moiz, Imam Mustansir, or Imam Mustali. Molana Jafer-as-sadik names has been forgotten. Kothar makes Bohras celebrate only Syedna Taher Saifuddin and Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin, who lived very pompous lives, full of Ziyafat and Salaam.

Please take few minutes of your time and send an email to yusufzakir@gmail.com Tell him instead of collecting new money he should write to Syedna to assemble a team of doctors, engineers, psychologists, etc. for going to Yemen and help war-weary Bohras. Shehzadas and Bhaisahebs should head that team. They should not hide in safe places enjoying screams of Mola, Mola, while Yemeni Bohras face daily bombardments. Syedna has collected billions. When is he going to use his money? Is he not required to good deeds?

“Pan Moula (TUS) na Faiz nu jaman sagla Mumineen na ghare pochi rahyu che. Moula (TUS) no mojezo che”

Pan Bhai, Moula no Mojezo itno powerful nathi; nahi to, Yamin ni pak sar-zameen ma fasad-j na thate

Vas Salam

Asghar Vasanwala

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 9:40 am
by true_bohra
Dear Mr Gulam Mohammed,

Every new day you come up with the latest of pics circulating on whatsapp and websites like zeninfosys related to Dawoodi Bohras and our Dai more specifically.

You guys have not even spared the conditions in Yemen to propagate your hate theories. Just want to ask you and Mr Vasanwala, that does your write up have any proof that the Dawoodi Bohras and OUR Dai have not considered to help their brethren in Yemen in this difficult times.

Well I was expecting only such email and pics from your side but to answer you I am putting this pic which is circulating on social media and which you guys will not be putting it up.

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 10:08 am
by think
]con artist muffy hits again. Instead of providing a plane load of supplies to the effected people of yemen, he wants to ask bhri abdes to go to yemen to serve. this is typically passing the buck politician muffy. He can fly in chartered planes everywhere but when it comes to helping hands he turns around and asks abdes to go to yemen and help. See how crafty he is. He could easily send blankets, foods and other supplies to yemen like the other countries who really want to help , but this guy muffy is just talk, talk and talk.

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 10:10 am
by HighFlyer
hey True_a**

have you read letter properly?

it clearly says momeenin who are in profession of medicine have offered help because they care about people, muffy has not donated any thing yet, infact now gov is asking for help to buy medicine and other essential things, muffy should do some thing solid instead of wasting time in his Colombo bungalow.

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 10:29 am
by SBM
TB
which govt sent this letter, There are two parallel govts in Yemen right now. Which one is he supporting? Saleh or Hadi?

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 11:02 am
by true_bohra
ghulam muhammed wrote: Tell him instead of collecting new money he should write to Syedna to assemble a team of doctors, engineers, psychologists, etc. for going to Yemen and help war-weary Bohras. Shehzadas and Bhaisahebs should head that team.
highflyer or whoever you are...you see that my reply was to vasanwala and gulam mohammed on the point that they raised...so now got my point..

at least a much of help is provided by Syedna TUS...what is reformist contribution to this..can the admin show the proof of any donations been made...and even it is been made then I would appreciate it...

and yes do not say that it is duty of the Dai and blah blah...if you can object to something then you are also liable to answer

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 11:45 am
by SBM
at least a much of help is provided by Syedna TUS...what is reformist contribution to this..can the admin show the proof of any donations been made...and even it is been made then I would appreciate it...
TB
Are you that stupid.. Kothari Goons collect money in the name of Wajebaats, Progressive do not.. This forum has collected mon ey to help Bohras in Ahmedabad, check thread Poverty in Ahmedabad.
Unlike Kothari Goons in Saify Mahal, Progressives do not have huge Cache of illegal wealth neither do they force anyone to pay huge sums of Sabil-Wajebaats
So use a little of your brain (Since majority is given to your Masters) before posting such a demand

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 6:57 pm
by ghulam muhammed
true_bohra wrote:Dear Mr Gulam Mohammed,

Every new day you come up with the latest of pics circulating on whatsapp and websites like zeninfosys related to Dawoodi Bohras and our Dai more specifically.

You guys have not even spared the conditions in Yemen to propagate your hate theories. Just want to ask you and Mr Vasanwala, that does your write up have any proof that the Dawoodi Bohras and OUR Dai have not considered to help their brethren in Yemen in this difficult times.

Well I was expecting only such email and pics from your side but to answer you I am putting this pic which is circulating on social media and which you guys will not be putting it up.
Dear Mr true_bohra,

Iam sorry for not highlighting the enormous efforts and pains taken by Mola Mufaddal to ensure that his followers are safe in Yemen and that they are assured of a continuous flow of essentials etc. for their day to day needs.

Now let me take the pleasure of presenting a set of photographic evidence to show the untiring efforts of his subordinates in the manner they have cleaned the premises "near the rubaat" and ensured that the FUGGAS (balloons) used for decorating the rubaat during the 'Fake Fateh Mubin' celebration of the so called permanent custody of his grandchildren are thrown in their right place i.e. garbage. It must have been a herculean task to clear the premises of so many Fuggas !!

If you have any evidence of your master giving money (out of the billions looted by him) to the affected Bohras then please provide the same. Kindly also keep us informed about the number of Shehzaadas sent to Yemen to help Bohras. Kindly also let us know as to when your master himself proposes to pay a visit to Yemen i.e. will it be during these tiring times or after the war is over ? We can understand that he finds it difficult to spare some time for Yemeni Bohras as he is on a MORE important mission of hop, skipping and jumping to various places in India and abroad. It is also commercially unviable for him to visit Yemen as he cannot get the minimum number of Ziyafats as per the norm and his visit will be sans the Pied Piper band and Dagger dance accompanied by hordes of abdes who are normally instructed to accompany him wherever he goes as that is a 'Prime' requirement in his display of 'Show of Strength' and photo ops which are needed for newspaper coverage and kothar sponsored sites like zeninfosys, malumat and mumineen.org.

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Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 7:22 pm
by JC
You will find Muffat-Dal where money is ........... no money, no muffat-dal ......... simple! These dumb, brain-dead abdes and amtes will not understand this because they do not want to! :o :?

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 2:24 am
by true_bohra
@ GM

whatever need was required, we are providing it readily and we need not blow the trumpet about it. I just showed you the letter for the reply of Vasanwala and his claims.

When asked about your accountibility to this, you guys changed the colours by saying that we dont ask for sabils and vajebaats and other excuses. The least you could have done was that put up an option on this forum to donate for yemen ( not compulsary but and option)...

if you all cant do something about a situation, do not criticise the ones who are doing atleast something about it.

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 4:57 pm
by ghulam muhammed
true_bohra wrote:whatever need was required, we are providing it readily and we need not blow the trumpet about it. I just showed you the letter for the reply of Vasanwala and his claims.
Please don't make me laugh....... Blowing your own trumpet is the trademark of your masters, don't you see how his contribution to SCAMS like qardan hasanah are publicised although the beneficiaries are the rich Sheikhs who use it for their businesses, hardly a dime reaches the poor and that too after as the saying goes 'Joota ghasi jjai pachhi'.
true_bohra wrote:When asked about your accountibility to this, you guys changed the colours by saying that we dont ask for sabils and vajebaats and other excuses.
What is wrong in the above statement ? Don't you ever realise the amount of money that is looted in the name of Islamic taxes which should rightly reach the needy is instead used for the ayyashi of the 2000 plus members of the Saifee Mahal ? Don't you ever realise that the amount which is rarely given for the right purpose is peanuts as compared to what is looted. It is like Mukesh Ambani giving Rs.100/- to a roadside beggar and the news is splashed all over the newspapers !

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 8:49 pm
by JavedhJuma
What do colors Red, White and Blue signify to the Bohoras? Why are Balloons in those colors. I thought the Bohora colors are Green and REd?//

Red, White and Blue are American Flag colors. Just asking.

Re: Situation in Yemen

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 5:28 am
by true_bohra
ghulam muhammed wrote:
true_bohra wrote:whatever need was required, we are providing it readily and we need not blow the trumpet about it. I just showed you the letter for the reply of Vasanwala and his claims.
Please don't make me laugh....... Blowing your own trumpet is the trademark of your masters, don't you see how his contribution to SCAMS like qardan hasanah are publicised although the beneficiaries are the rich Sheikhs who use it for their businesses, hardly a dime reaches the poor and that too after as the saying goes 'Joota ghasi jjai pachhi'.
true_bohra wrote:When asked about your accountibility to this, you guys changed the colours by saying that we dont ask for sabils and vajebaats and other excuses.
What is wrong in the above statement ? Don't you ever realise the amount of money that is looted in the name of Islamic taxes which should rightly reach the needy is instead used for the ayyashi of the 2000 plus members of the Saifee Mahal ? Don't you ever realise that the amount which is rarely given for the right purpose is peanuts as compared to what is looted. It is like Mukesh Ambani giving Rs.100/- to a roadside beggar and the news is splashed all over the newspapers !
Are you so sure that Wajebaat money is all expended in Saifee Mahal members??